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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 02 2019 15:23 GMT
#241
On July 02 2019 20:55 Conversion wrote:
I mean a lot of your points are just "meh let's see what people do in the day, I quite don't like certain things they are saying," except Trfel who you have a soul town read on for some reason, and me who you think is scum even if I'm back and actually saying things in the thread

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On July 02 2019 13:16 Eversince wrote:
I don't like Pandain's weird Truffle town read. It would be fine but putting Truffles town and me null at that early was just weird. I get why he says I'd be 'forced' to be active but at least I'm trying. I'm very obvious to just ask if you want me to explain anything. So giving Truffles a town read and nulling me when I am around is just.. off.

Conversion entrance seemed bleh. But I see what he was saying now. Using 4 year meta read is kind of bad. But sadly, I don't play as much anymore. Conv pointing it out, giving a decent reason for it, not commenting on the rest of game.. That seems questionable to me. There wasn't much content (still not) but I'll decide on that when I see how he actually plays!


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On July 02 2019 13:20 Eversince wrote:
To clarify Pandain problem: If you give Truffles town read there and someone your not sure about is known to be active, why not just try to get a better read on them? The fact he didn't bother to interact is bigger issue to me I think.

I don't want to spend all of day 1 tunneled on Pandain though. What are your thoughts?


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On July 02 2019 13:26 Eversince wrote:
I think Grack is just being usual Grack again.

Rayn finding it weird Truffles would read me t!ES is fine for prior reasons. I think they are wrong though.


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On July 02 2019 16:46 Eversince wrote:
Bleh Pand seems to me the same as last game. I don't understand his logic and I'm 'ok' with his reasons for Truffles/ES read now, it took me a long time to get there. I'm not vesting into Pand real hard because last game I spent the entire time thinking he was mafia, he turned up town. I think there could be mafia motivation behind the vote on me. I'll have to think on that. I'm real ditsy, easy to misunderstand, and don't pick up on people real fast. But it's not like he tried to start a wagon so where is mafia Pandain trying to take the easy shot here?



I also find it quite suspicious that you're overly defending Grack's play in that he'll come in later and play the game (and basically writing him off your d1 lynch list), but you're applying the opposite logic on me and calling me scum for it.


Ok. The problem I have with you is you jump in thread, make 1 valid point, ignore rest of the thread. I've already made a post on these reasons. I've already made post on reasons I'm trying to interact with people. I give reasons when people interact with me! HF kind of did although they where boring.This is the first attempt that you make and it's "ES is probably mafia for trying to figure out the game".. I don't like it!
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 02 2019 15:23 GMT
#242
Sorry, took a nap! I'm back now though!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:25 GMT
#243
On July 03 2019 00:23 Eversince wrote:
Sorry, took a nap! I'm back now though!

who made the above post then? :O
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:27 GMT
#244
Holyflare
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 02 2019 15:28 GMT
#245
On July 02 2019 23:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah conversion easily town this game.

I second this.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 02 2019 15:32 GMT
#246
On July 03 2019 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On July 03 2019 00:23 Eversince wrote:
Sorry, took a nap! I'm back now though!

who made the above post then? :O


Guilty as charged! I'm just reading up thread and trying to make conclusions. Your Pand point makes sense but why would m!Pand point it out? He did vote me but he didn't push for it. m!Pand here would want to start a wagon? Oh crap, I think that happened though! No one seems to like me !

Also you sum my Grack points back up yourself. He could be mafia, but he could be t!Grack here and not giving a darn. I don't like to lynch town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:33 GMT
#247
On July 03 2019 00:32 Eversince wrote:
Also you sum my Grack points back up yourself. He could be mafia, but he could be t!Grack here and not giving a darn. I don't like to lynch town.

I am pretty sure you said it's very unlikely it's m!grack?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:35 GMT
#248
can you just answer me on this:
So okay, Grack is self-aware of his meta, Grack doesn't post that much early on (aside from jokes and stuff) as town, Grack doesn't post here in this game when the thread is basically Trfel's townread on ES and nothing more. Only thing Grack does is question Trfel a bit (and pretty much a throwaway post on ES). Point is; there is ONE townread in the thread and nothing more. Why would Grackaroni do anything as mafia here in ES' mind?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:36 GMT
#249
grack knows his meta
town grack doesn't engage thread early
why does mafia grack most likely engage thread here at the point (that's what your town read is based on anyways)?
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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 02 2019 15:42 GMT
#250
@Rayn

He doesn't but it could be either m!Grack/t!Grack. I'm saying we lynch most likely mafia over him. Because Grack playstyle make it hard to tell if he's m!Grack yet because his town play looks the same D1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:44 GMT
#251
On July 03 2019 00:42 Eversince wrote:
@Rayn

He doesn't but it could be either m!Grack/t!Grack. I'm saying we lynch most likely mafia over him. Because Grack playstyle make it hard to tell if he's m!Grack yet because his town play looks the same D1.

but you said it's not m!grack? like that's literally your read right?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:45 GMT
#252
On July 02 2019 18:02 Eversince wrote:
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On July 02 2019 17:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 17:27 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 17:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!

If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?




On July 02 2019 16:12 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 16:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:39 Eversince wrote:
On July 02 2019 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 02 2019 13:44 Eversince wrote:
But m!Grack wants to lead town to do stupid things.

Can you give some examples of this that happened lately?


Actually no. I was reference a point that anyone mafia in that position would do that. I could go filter Gracks past games but that seems real petty!

If you did filter them you'd find that last game grack bussed his teammate to death d1 and another one on n2. Which is why i was wondering where you got that sentiment. I dont really understand whhat yourw saying here and how that relates to whatever grack has or hasnt done this game?


I'm going off memory (not reliable). Any mafia would want to try to change thread sentiment. Grack did nothing.. Even on your example.. if he bussed his whole team he still did something. Was my point. t!Grack doesn't care m!Grack does something (if that's true he just killed his whole team)! What game is it though? I'll filter him to try to see.


Why does grack necessarily want to change thread sentiment about 4hrs and a total of 1 townread in thread into the game? Why is it more scummy to want to do something than not do anything?


Exactly, m!Grack makes no sense to me there because he just mia off. Nothing happens that early. You either try to be active and start the thread or just mia. Which he did. Or you try to get groundwork into looking town (Which he didn't). Showing up and being general useless doesn't make any sense as town or mafia. But Grack is flighty, tends to put a hell of a lot more effort late D1/D2. I don't like him continuing to be useless but I made post on this already. If he's still useless day 2 we can just lynch him but standard Grack play is standard Grack.

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Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2301 Posts
July 02 2019 15:47 GMT
#253
.......I'm getting annoyed with answering this! It's all over my filter!

I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack. I give him the pass today because I know this about him. I would still lynch but I think it's not worth our votes with better options
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Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9829 Posts
July 02 2019 15:48 GMT
#254
rayn is very town so far.
Maybe conversion too although I'm not agreeing with him.

Mafia
Maybe trfel
Pandain is lynchworthy from that opening.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:54 GMT
#255
On July 03 2019 00:47 Eversince wrote:
.......I'm getting annoyed with answering this! It's all over my filter!

I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack. I give him the pass today because I know this about him. I would still lynch but I think it's not worth our votes with better options

On July 03 2019 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On July 03 2019 00:42 Eversince wrote:
@Rayn

He doesn't but it could be either m!Grack/t!Grack. I'm saying we lynch most likely mafia over him. Because Grack playstyle make it hard to tell if he's m!Grack yet because his town play looks the same D1.

but you said it's not m!grack? like that's literally your read right?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:56 GMT
#256
Like i have your words on "Exactly, m!Grack makes no sense" and you're now telling me "I think Grack could play his inactive self d1 as either mafia!Grack or town!Grack"??????????????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 15:58 GMT
#257
just no
##vote Eversince
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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
July 02 2019 16:00 GMT
#258
If ES is mafia am I spewed?

:D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 02 2019 16:00 GMT
#259
I feel like I'm a named townie again nobody has even thrown me in a mafia pile.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 02 2019 16:01 GMT
#260
On July 03 2019 01:00 Grackaroni wrote:
If ES is mafia am I spewed?

:D

uh?
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