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On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be.
Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap.
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On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap.
But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol?
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m!ES makes a trash meta read on me. Get caught. Lynch with bunches of fire!!
What other point did you have?
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On July 03 2019 02:55 Eversince wrote:
I don't even think his scum read on me is wrong. I made a mistake and HF finding a problem with it makes sense because I made no sense.
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On July 04 2019 03:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol?
So clearly this means now that you're wrong somehow and it doesn't make ES mafia? 
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On July 04 2019 01:37 Holyflare wrote:
I think Pandain and eywa are town for what it's worth. I wouldn't clear rayn because his logic doesn't really hold up but I don't want to get in a shit fight about it so I'll ignore it and see how it goes. I got the feeling jock was overzealous townie that thought he had something on me and that looked good but he's pushed it a smidge too far for my liking so I'm downgrading him.
Conversion/grack/es/rayn/trfl/jock
It's a big list but I really haven't given a shit about the game until now so I'll narrow it down when I'm home.
I think you're on the right track.
I have ES/Eywa/Pandain/Jock all written off as town.
I don't actually dislike you either. Lazy HF is more often town HF than Mafia HF and your reads aren't bad.
Lynch into Rayn/Trfel/Conversion.
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On July 04 2019 03:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol?
I agreed with why you made them! I tried real hard to explain myself after that fact. You obviously don't like it but it still kind of proved my point because here you are. trying to engage game (Did the same there), and solve things. The fact you completely ignore my response due to mia/w/e makes me feel worse on you because I've been transparent on how I develop. So you continuing to push me is questionable at this point.
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On July 04 2019 03:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2019 02:55 Eversince wrote:
I don't even think his scum read on me is wrong. I made a mistake and HF finding a problem with it makes sense because I made no sense.
Yes but why does m!ES take that and give it to you?
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On July 04 2019 03:29 Eversince wrote:
m!ES makes a trash meta read on me. Get caught. Lynch with bunches of fire!!
What other point did you have?
That you meekly defend grack and don't even give a read on him. Just that he's not leading the town anywhere so isn't likely mafia (your meta read on him) but you also say if he doesn't play and is inactive that's what he does as town if he comes back and plays later.
Then grack does not much at all and suddenly it's oh grack is inactive maybe he's the lynch later but you never really push that.
If grack is mafia he's not following your mafia meta of grack by being inactive. If he's town, he is. You don't double down on the meta read but start to open up on the option of grack just as he becomes a wagon and you're in the lead.
The person you jump to lynching is eywa who is playing almost identical to last game with the exception of posting why they actually scum read you BUT you're mafia reading eywa, not for explaining the read which is different play from last game but scum reading eywa for playing exactly like last game (where they were town)!
You are eroding your grack read which doesn't match to your thought process.
You have only ever wanted to lynch the lynch bait who plays like they were town last game.
You defended me from pressure even though I did literally nothing AND THAT WAS YOUR MAFIA META ON ME.
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On July 04 2019 03:34 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:28 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol? I agreed with why you made them! I tried real hard to explain myself after that fact. You obviously don't like it but it still kind of proved my point because here you are. trying to engage game (Did the same there), and solve things. The fact you completely ignore my response due to mia/w/e makes me feel worse on you because I've been transparent on how I develop. So you continuing to push me is questionable at this point.
No, it's not. I did literally the same thing to Pandain last game and he even complained about it.
If you agreed with them why did you just come in and say my points were trash?
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It's amazing how i once again get scumread because someone else gives a shitty explanation for what they said earlier. no-fucking-one says "he's stupid good mafia player" if "he" just afks and dies as mafia, and when asked for a reference (they were already referring to) there isn't any. If you think someone is stupid good as town and ridiculously bad as mafia you say they are "stupid good town player / stupid good as town".
It's ridiculous how people buy every fucking bullshit someone says just because they make posts....
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Like darnit..
ES makes a bad meta read.
HF has problems with it.
ES can't show reasons for read, own up to it.
Gets killed because she just picks a fight with HF.
What world would I do this?
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I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them.
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On July 04 2019 03:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:34 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:28 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:28 Eversince wrote:On July 04 2019 03:24 Holyflare wrote:On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't. Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't. My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be. Summarize for me. because I thought your points against me where crap. But you agreed with them and said my vote is valid because of it originally lol? I agreed with why you made them! I tried real hard to explain myself after that fact. You obviously don't like it but it still kind of proved my point because here you are. trying to engage game (Did the same there), and solve things. The fact you completely ignore my response due to mia/w/e makes me feel worse on you because I've been transparent on how I develop. So you continuing to push me is questionable at this point. No, it's not. I did literally the same thing to Pandain last game and he even complained about it. If you agreed with them why did you just come in and say my points were trash?
Mainly because they are trash to call me mafia here. I get why you made them but why you're STILL persisting on them is baffling to me!
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On July 04 2019 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them.
I've given points on Conv and Ewya. I also waffle on Pandain but I think his recent post (along what I said earlier) he looks a lot better. I've given points on almost everyone in this game. HF if your town just freaking read.
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Rereading I actually completely misinterpreted the trfel post that bothered me.
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I did and until you generate new content nothing will change. Sorry if I'm wrong but I don't currently think that I am.
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On July 04 2019 03:44 Eversince wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2019 03:41 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not picking a fight. I just think you're mafia because you haven't really called anyone other than eywa mafia. Prove someone else is mafia and why I should vote for them. I've given points on Conv and Ewya. I also waffle on Pandain but I think his recent post (along what I said earlier) he looks a lot better. I've given points on almost everyone in this game. HF if your town just freaking read.
Your points on me:
1) Entrance bad
2) I don’t like him
You haven’t evolved your read on me or reinforced it as I posted more. Until you start playing the game instead of yelling about how no one wants to listen to you, my vote stays on you.
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I am generating content! That's bologna! I've spent half my time trying to explain myself. You continuing to try to kill me is weird now. Like 'nothing ES says this game' changes your opinion? You want huge case post? Too bad, I'm really bad at them. You want analysis? Point me where. You want explanation? On what?
Your driving me seems super forced here. I don't like it at all. I was ready to call the whole Jock/HF thing town vs town but your making me doubt myself..
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Yeah I was bad.
Trfel looks fine.
I'm up for burying Conversion though.
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