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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2019 17:38 GMT
#741
On July 04 2019 02:34 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote:
On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.

@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this.

I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.


Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
If I had to choose between Grack or ES for a lynch I'd probably choose grack tbh. His filter is void of literally aby content. People are town, he guesses I could maybe be mafia. Es is town because of bathtub? Drunk posting that doesn't even look drunk?

Dumb and probably mafia.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Difference being I read your filter in between those posts. It's bad.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2019 17:39 GMT
#742
I mean I even said you both could be mafia! So I'll lynch the shitters first
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 03 2019 17:42 GMT
#743
On July 04 2019 02:38 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 02:34 Grackaroni wrote:
On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote:
On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.

@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this.

I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.


On July 04 2019 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
If I had to choose between Grack or ES for a lynch I'd probably choose grack tbh. His filter is void of literally aby content. People are town, he guesses I could maybe be mafia. Es is town because of bathtub? Drunk posting that doesn't even look drunk?

Dumb and probably mafia.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Difference being I read your filter in between those posts. It's bad.

I just wanted to mess with you. Though your justification makes no sense because you already said I looked like shit and a free lynch in the fist place.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2019 17:43 GMT
#744
Do something good then!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 03 2019 17:52 GMT
#745
I'm stealing this one for my defense.

On July 03 2019 20:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 20:44 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 03 2019 20:43 Holyflare wrote:
It's not a slip up it was a facetious point that I don't even know if I believe.


Why shouldn't I lynch you from your play so far?


I'm just lazy doesn't make me mafia.

Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 03 2019 17:59 GMT
#746
On July 03 2019 21:20 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 21:17 Eywa- wrote:
On July 03 2019 21:12 Pandain wrote:
On July 03 2019 21:08 Eywa- wrote:
Jockmcplop, have you abandoned your confidence approach from last game?

There was an early interaction between HF and Rayn that struck me as off, but I kind of came out of it thinking that Rayn was scum... Because they kind of amicably came to the same idea despite seemingly starting from different view points (this is when Rayn switches his vote off of ES, then back on.

I don't agree with Pandain, I think ES being willing to only lynch me shows a lack of understanding of what town players are seeing in the game right now and I'm a pretty safe resting spot right now.



Why does mafia ES refuse to lynch a viable counterwagon on someone she has said she would be willing to lynch?

If you can't explain this, you can't vote her.

1) Grack could be mafia
2) She could think I'm a more viable lynch
3) She's under a lot of pressure and people under pressure do a lot of crazy things they wouldn't do otherwise.
4) She's afraid of giving more associations, so she's locking in all of her reads (this actually is pretty well in line with her play since I joined the wagon)


The issue here is, I don't think anything a player does under pressure or after a slip matters


1. Then vote Grack
2. Objectively not true.
3. The vote count was 3-4 Grack-ES. It's not a difficult choice to make as mafia to join the counterlynch. You can't cite pressure.
4. If ES gets lynched, we still know nothing on Grack regardless.


What slip have you seen?

I don't think this is true. She spent so much time meta-reading me that she may think it would look badly for her to switch and is just waiting for the wagons to change.

I still don't particularly think she's mafia to begin with though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2019 17:59 GMT
#747
At least I post real content when I'm lazy!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 03 2019 18:00 GMT
#748
On July 04 2019 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
At least I post real content when I'm lazy!

All I've seen is Jock ripping into you. I don't remember what you've been posting.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 03 2019 18:02 GMT
#749
Looks like I'm die..

I'm try to catch up but I have to go take care of animals. No promises.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2019 18:11 GMT
#750
I think I'll leave my vote where it is in the meanwhile...
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 03 2019 18:14 GMT
#751
Rayn, what did you townread ES for in the last game?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 03 2019 18:19 GMT
#752
I think Rayn's push on ES is pretty suspicious actually. He's ignoring the general feel of her filter and her activity in favor of two nitpicked logical errors.

I really suspect that he had a strong feel based read on her in the last game, and even though the filter Trfel linked is four years old I do see a pretty noticeable difference between that game and this one.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
July 03 2019 18:20 GMT
#753
She seems much more comfortable here and spews out whatever she's thinking.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 18:22 GMT
#754
On July 04 2019 02:01 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2019 01:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
This is the thing hf every time you begin to even look a little bit town you say something like this:

He didn't even realise this was still a point for him until someone pointed it out again yet I was still mafia to him before that.


I have no idea why you would think that's true. It isn't at all. I have brought up the eywa thing consistently over the last few pages. You're literally just making this shit up out of nowhere.


It's just a misunderstanding. HF thinks from your post saying that "oh my point still stands!" that you thought it had been negated earlier. Of course you never thought it was negated, but HF didn't know/think that.

Did you see my post on Conf? Given that he can be extremely aggressive as mafia, what do you think of his play so far?


Can you like tunnel off me?

1) No one is townreading me for being aggressive— not sure if you’re willfully being this obtuse or not

2) I haven’t even been that aggressive this game

3) I don’t want to talk to you about your points just like you don’t want to talk to me about my points, so stop telling the thread I’m being useless or aggressive when I’m not

Either address my points directly and talk to me DIRECTLY or stop talking around me and trying to misconstrue my play. Shady as hell.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 03 2019 18:22 GMT
#755
On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:
On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.)
@Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?

Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment.


She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment.

I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't.
table for two on a tv tray
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
July 03 2019 18:22 GMT
#756
The only point you address me directly was the one post I made about you, and you keep saying I did nothing.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 03 2019 18:24 GMT
#757
ok! I'm back around!! I'm catching up but anyone that has questions can talk!
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2019 18:24 GMT
#758
On July 04 2019 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote:
On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote:
And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.)
@Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?

Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment.


She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment.

I know she did but do you believe that's the truth? I don't.


Yeah because why would she say I'm good as mafia and simultaneously say I'm afk as mafia? She wouldn't.

My points were about something completely different though and I don't think they're as awful as pandain and jock make them out to be.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
July 03 2019 18:25 GMT
#759
Vote Count


Eversince: (4) Raynpelikoneet, Eywa-, Holyflare, conversion
Grackaroni: (2) Trfel, pandain
trfel: (1) Grackaroni
Eywa-: (1) Eversince,
Holyflare: (1) Jockmcplop

not voting (0):

currently Eversince is set to be lynched


until deadline. (Wednesday, Jul 03 7:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00))

voting is mandatory.

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
July 03 2019 18:27 GMT
#760
On July 04 2019 03:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Rayn, what did you townread ES for in the last game?

She was trying to figure out alignments.
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