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Holyflare
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On July 03 2019 23:07 Pandain wrote: Nah Conversion you're completely misunderstanding me. I never really thought you're scummy, maybe slightly town. Basically null. But you're in the "scum" pile based on process of elimination. But based on my PoE I think the last two scum are probably you and Conversion. Last two scum are Conversion and Conversion, nice  | ||
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Conversion
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9732 Posts
On July 03 2019 23:15 Holyflare wrote: Don't really understand what I've done that's scummy other than be marginally apathetic to the game. You must have missed the posts i made about it. They way you have gone after ES is scummy. The bad logic that seems like an excuse to vote for ES more than anything else. The way you then brought up the eywa thing even though it contradicts your own post from earlier - just to make ES look bad. Every post you make about ES seems like you're trying to get the evidence to fit instead of seeing where the evidence leads. As if you already knew who you were accusing and just need to twist the facts to make it look right. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On July 03 2019 01:09 Eversince wrote: @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince?And I've played with HF a few times over the years. He's stupid good mafia player. If he's town he'll figure things out! Go look at his massive list of games to look. Like he can be wrong but mafia almost always shoot into the vets on this site (HF/Rayn/Marv etc..etc.) Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote: @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. I also read it like this. Case in point: Right afterwards he said "If he's town he'll figure things out!" | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 03 2019 23:19 Jockmcplop wrote: You must have missed the posts i made about it. They way you have gone after ES is scummy. The bad logic that seems like an excuse to vote for ES more than anything else. The way you then brought up the eywa thing even though it contradicts your own post from earlier - just to make ES look bad. Every post you make about ES seems like you're trying to get the evidence to fit instead of seeing where the evidence leads. As if you already knew who you were accusing and just need to twist the facts to make it look right. You keep referencing the bad logic but then said you're starting to see my point of view. So which is it eh? I don't think anyone reading my post can disagree with my point in eywa. It's different, even eywa agrees. If you are mafia es and your partner is up for lynch mafia go for lynch bait which es did even though eywa is playing similarly to last game. My thoughts on eywa mean nothing because of several reasons: Es never agreed with those points. Es played with eywa literally last game. If you take away my point on eywa, eywa looks the same as last game and es is pushing that as scummy even though literally in the last game eywa was the same. There is no hesitance. Its "oh yeah counter wagon grack is up for lynch, maybe he is scummy! But this eyway guy that's the same as last game though!" It's superficial and contradictory to what her own thought process should be and is typical of mafia trying to find an easy lynch wagon to place a vote. Who else does es really scum read? Sure your read list can elaborate on that. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 03 2019 23:19 Trfel wrote: @Raynpelikoneet, is the bolded the thing you are using to scumread Eversince? Because to me, Eversince is saying here that Holyflare is good at mafia as a game, not as an alignment. She also clarified that she meant I'm good at mafia rather than the mafia alignment. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9732 Posts
On July 03 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote: You keep referencing the bad logic but then said you're starting to see my point of view. So which is it eh? The bad logic i'm referring to is the whole 'ES got a meta read on me wrong therefore she is mafia'. It makes no sense and is stupid. On July 03 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote: I don't think anyone reading my post can disagree with my point in eywa. It's different, even eywa agrees. If you are mafia es and your partner is up for lynch mafia go for lynch bait which es did even though eywa is playing similarly to last game. My thoughts on eywa mean nothing because of several reasons: Es never agreed with those points. Es played with eywa literally last game. If you take away my point on eywa, eywa looks the same as last game and es is pushing that as scummy even though literally in the last game eywa was the same. There is no hesitance. Its "oh yeah counter wagon grack is up for lynch, maybe he is scummy! But this eyway guy that's the same as last game though!" It's superficial and contradictory to what her own thought process should be and is typical of mafia trying to find an easy lynch wagon to place a vote. Who else does es really scum read? Sure your read list can elaborate on that. Your point on eywa was specifically that eywa has played differently in this game to other games. You thne scum read ES because you say eywa has played exactly the same in this game as in the last game. You really can't see a contradiction there? You really can't see how it looks like you will say anything to make ES look bad? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 03 2019 23:44 Jockmcplop wrote: The bad logic i'm referring to is the whole 'ES got a meta read on me wrong therefore she is mafia'. It makes no sense and is stupid. Your point on eywa was specifically that eywa has played differently in this game to other games. You thne scum read ES because you say eywa has played exactly the same in this game as in the last game. You really can't see a contradiction there? You really can't see how it looks like you will say anything to make ES look bad? Point me to the place where I say eywa is playing so differently in this game to the last. I guarantee you can't because I never said that. If you think my only continual point for lynching es is the meta read on me then you clearly have not been reading what I've said in the slightest. The meta read is bad, yes, but I've clearly made several points after that. | ||
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Holyflare
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Holyflare
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On July 03 2019 23:58 Holyflare wrote: If you think my only continual point for lynching es is the meta read on me then you clearly have not been reading what I've said in the slightest. The meta read is bad, yes, but I've clearly made several points after that. To be fair it was your only stated reason until you got pressured by jock. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9732 Posts
On July 03 2019 23:58 Holyflare wrote: Point me to the place where I say eywa is playing so differently in this game to the last. I guarantee you can't because I never said that. If you think my only continual point for lynching es is the meta read on me then you clearly have not been reading what I've said in the slightest. The meta read is bad, yes, but I've clearly made several points after that. There was also the ''eroding' read on grack, which as far as i can tell is just a flat out lie. She's been up and down on grack from the beginning, there's been no gradual erosion, and no hard reads either way. As for eywa: This is the most reasoning I think I've ever seen eywa post for a scum read in any game and it's coherent and says actual things that make people scummy.... and I kinda think that might make him mafia? :D that's fucked up logic The implication of this is clearly, obviously that eywa is not playing the same as usual. If said 'holyflare, your hair looks darker today than ever before' and then yelled at someone else for saying that you look different to usual you would probably see a contradiction there, no?? | ||
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Holyflare
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9732 Posts
On July 04 2019 00:01 Holyflare wrote: You've also falsely said that my vote was 3rd on the es wagon because I was scared of voting. I'd like to direct you to me voting in this thread where at least my intention of ##vote would have made me the first real voter (excluding pandain who wasn't even a real vote). I later admitted this was wrong when it was pointed out to me by pandain. You can see where i made the mistake, because there was a big delay between you voting in this thread and the vote thread. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On July 04 2019 00:05 Holyflare wrote: Yeah but it's clearly not anymore is it lol? This was to pandain. Completely fair though, I've never said eywa looked the same so you got me there. Definitely thought it though and that's how I've ended up on es longer. If it's not clear, eywa feels exactly the same as last game but just did something that was massively out of character. Es did not reference this out of character thing so all there is to go by for es is that eywa is the same. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9732 Posts
I'm leaving my vote where it is. I would highly suggest that people have a read through what I've written before they decide about hf, and don't just think to themselves 'its just hf being hf we'll go for the easy lynch instead'. I'll be around a bit before deadline but not too much after this cos I've got to get home from work and then go play some drums. | ||
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Holyflare
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
[QUOTE]On July 03 2019 23:44 Jockmcplop wrote: [QUOTE]On July 03 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote: [QUOTE]On July 03 2019 23:19 Jockmcplop wrote: [QUOTE]On July 03 2019 23:15 Holyflare wrote: Don't really understand what I've done that's scummy other than be marginally apathetic to the game. [/QUOTE] You must have missed the posts i made about it. They way you have gone after ES is scummy. The bad logic that seems like an excuse to vote for ES more than anything else. The way you then brought up the eywa thing even though it contradicts your own post from earlier - just to make ES look bad. Every post you make about ES seems like you're trying to get the evidence to fit instead of seeing where the evidence leads. As if you already knew who you were accusing and just need to twist the facts to make it look right.[/QUOTE] You keep referencing the bad logic but then said you're starting to see my point of view. So which is it eh? [/QUOTE] The bad logic i'm referring to is the whole 'ES got a meta read on me wrong therefore she is mafia'. It makes no sense and is stupid. [QUOTE]On July 03 2019 23:31 Holyflare wrote: I don't think anyone reading my post can disagree with my point in eywa. It's different, even eywa agrees. If you are mafia es and your partner is up for lynch mafia go for lynch bait which es did even though eywa is playing similarly to last game. My thoughts on eywa mean nothing because of several reasons: Es never agreed with those points. Es played with eywa literally last game. If you take away my point on eywa, eywa looks the same as last game and es is pushing that as scummy even though literally in the last game eywa was the same. There is no hesitance. Its "oh yeah counter wagon grack is up for lynch, maybe he is scummy! But this eyway guy that's the same as last game though!" It's superficial and contradictory to what her own thought process should be and is typical of mafia trying to find an easy lynch wagon to place a vote. Who else does es really scum read? Sure your read list can elaborate on that. [/QUOTE] Your point on eywa was specifically that eywa has played differently in this game to other games. You thne scum read ES because you say eywa has played exactly the same in this game as in the last game. You really can't see a contradiction there? You really can't see how it looks like you will say anything to make ES look bad? [/QUOTE] Point me to the place where I say eywa is playing so differently in this game to the last. I guarantee you can't because I never said that. If you think my only continual point for lynching es is the meta read on me then you clearly have not been reading what I've said in the slightest. The meta read is bad, yes, but I've clearly made se | ||
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