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Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 13:03 GMT
#641
I'm sorry, I'm 100% town, the cases where self lynch is a good play are minimal to none. I would have to be sure of my contribution AND to have maybe 85%+ hit rate on my confident reads in-order to make a sacrifice play even remotely close to being optimal.
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 13:04 GMT
#642
"oh, but lynch me then lynch my scum read"...

BUT YOUR REAS ACCURACY IS 50% WHY ON EARTH WOULD I DO THAT?
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 13:04 GMT
#643
Read*
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 13:05 GMT
#644
On July 03 2019 22:02 Pandain wrote:
I don't agree with you at all but you explained yourself and I think you're town.

Disagreement and proof that it works in the same post
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:09 GMT
#645
I have extremely strong townreads on Jock, ES, Rayn, and Eywa.

Meaning I think the last two scum are between Conv, Trfell, HF, and Grack.

I actually have a very slight town read on HF too.
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
July 03 2019 13:15 GMT
#646
On July 03 2019 22:09 Pandain wrote:
I have extremely strong townreads on Jock, ES, Rayn, and Eywa.

Meaning I think the last two scum are between Conv, Trfell, HF, and Grack.

I actually have a very slight town read on HF too.

That's quite the turnaround
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:15 GMT
#647
Briefly skimming Trfel's last town games and previous two mafia games (albeit admittedly 3-4 years ago), they seem more similar to his town games.

His posts seem genuine and he's making some good points.

I think the last two scum are Conversion and Grack. Maybe HF.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:16 GMT
#648
On July 03 2019 22:15 Eywa- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 22:09 Pandain wrote:
I have extremely strong townreads on Jock, ES, Rayn, and Eywa.

Meaning I think the last two scum are between Conv, Trfell, HF, and Grack.

I actually have a very slight town read on HF too.

That's quite the turnaround


No it's pretty consistent. You are the only one I was wavering on, but after my conversation with you I think you're being honest and sincere. I never thought HF was really that scummy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2019 13:22 GMT
#649
Lol all your logic literally doesn't apply to almost every game I've ever played in. Mafia defends grack, if he's town they don't want to look bad. Could be why she's slowly eroding her town read on grack to move her vote "legitimately" at the end of the day.

They could both be mafia and that's why she's arbitrarily picked someone that in my eyes is an easy lynch that isn't grack.

I don't believe if they're both mafia they'd vote each other, that's stupid logic.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9732 Posts
July 03 2019 13:29 GMT
#650
On July 03 2019 22:22 Holyflare wrote:
Lol all your logic literally doesn't apply to almost every game I've ever played in. Mafia defends grack, if he's town they don't want to look bad. Could be why she's slowly eroding her town read on grack to move her vote "legitimately" at the end of the day.

They could both be mafia and that's why she's arbitrarily picked someone that in my eyes is an easy lynch that isn't grack.

I don't believe if they're both mafia they'd vote each other, that's stupid logic.


What does this even mean? Grack isn't voting for ES right now.

Are you telling me that if ES flips red, we shouldn't go and immediately lynch grack?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:32 GMT
#651
You have horrible cognitive biases. You are already reading into her play that she is "slowly eroding her town read on grack", as if most people even plan that methodically. She said originally that she was down to lynch Grack, then she changed her mind and said she didn't think he was scum. That's far from "slowly eroding her town read". If anything, it's the opposite.

ES is mafia ,Grack is town: Congrats, ES gets lynched because no one is ever going to vote Eywa. You're right -Great! ES looks slightly better in Grack's eyes, the only one she would look better to (because no one else knows Grack's alignment). Too bad she's already dead.

ES is Mafia , Grack is Mafia : Okay, makes sense

But if we're doing this logic, and you think Grack is scum anyway, we should lynch Grack first. Because it's extremely unlikely Eywa cannot be scum if Grack is town.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:35 GMT
#652
It's unlikely Eywa is scum if grack is town*
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:36 GMT
#653
On July 03 2019 17:44 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 17:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 03 2019 17:35 Eversince wrote:
I got called off to work. but I'm back now if people want to talk!


It would be in your interest to take a look at grack, given that he's now the alternate wagon to you!


I've already said what I feel about Grack. His poor contribution after I defend him so hard is bleh though. I'd be ok with lynching him to be honest.


On July 03 2019 17:49 Eversince wrote:
No actually Grack can wait I still think what Ewya did is so scummy, This needs dealt with first.


Does this look like "slowly eroding a town read" to you? It's the opposite, Holyflare.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:37 GMT
#654
If Grack is mafia, I'm all down for lynching ES with you.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:39 GMT
#655
I actually think it makes sense for mafia ES to not vote mafia Grack.

I agree it's not optimal play, but I could easily see ES just freaking out a little and trying to lynch someone else.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:40 GMT
#656
On July 03 2019 22:35 Pandain wrote:
It's unlikely Eywa is scum if grack is town*


I mean ES here of course
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9732 Posts
July 03 2019 13:40 GMT
#657
On July 03 2019 22:36 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 17:44 Eversince wrote:
On July 03 2019 17:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 03 2019 17:35 Eversince wrote:
I got called off to work. but I'm back now if people want to talk!


It would be in your interest to take a look at grack, given that he's now the alternate wagon to you!


I've already said what I feel about Grack. His poor contribution after I defend him so hard is bleh though. I'd be ok with lynching him to be honest.


Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 17:49 Eversince wrote:
No actually Grack can wait I still think what Ewya did is so scummy, This needs dealt with first.


Does this look like "slowly eroding a town read" to you? It's the opposite, Holyflare.

Hf is trying to make ES look bad. That's the whole point of all of his posts.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 13:45 GMT
#658
If Grack is mafia, ES could be mafia too. But not necessarily.

But if Grack is town, I don't think ES is mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2019 13:56 GMT
#659
On July 03 2019 22:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 22:22 Holyflare wrote:
Lol all your logic literally doesn't apply to almost every game I've ever played in. Mafia defends grack, if he's town they don't want to look bad. Could be why she's slowly eroding her town read on grack to move her vote "legitimately" at the end of the day.

They could both be mafia and that's why she's arbitrarily picked someone that in my eyes is an easy lynch that isn't grack.

I don't believe if they're both mafia they'd vote each other, that's stupid logic.


What does this even mean? Grack isn't voting for ES right now.

Are you telling me that if ES flips red, we shouldn't go and immediately lynch grack?


You're telling me that es is town because she won't vote grack. Then why is that logic not made for grack who isn't voting es???
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9732 Posts
July 03 2019 13:58 GMT
#660
On July 03 2019 22:56 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 22:29 Jockmcplop wrote:
On July 03 2019 22:22 Holyflare wrote:
Lol all your logic literally doesn't apply to almost every game I've ever played in. Mafia defends grack, if he's town they don't want to look bad. Could be why she's slowly eroding her town read on grack to move her vote "legitimately" at the end of the day.

They could both be mafia and that's why she's arbitrarily picked someone that in my eyes is an easy lynch that isn't grack.

I don't believe if they're both mafia they'd vote each other, that's stupid logic.


What does this even mean? Grack isn't voting for ES right now.

Are you telling me that if ES flips red, we shouldn't go and immediately lynch grack?


You're telling me that es is town because she won't vote grack. Then why is that logic not made for grack who isn't voting es???


Because grack has not been in the thread while he's been close to being lynched. He had 3 votes for a short time earlier but wasn't here.
RIP Meatloaf <3
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