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Pandain
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
On July 03 2019 18:51 Pandain wrote: Honestly Jock I think you established yourself as clear town. Both you and Rayn. That is the #1 thing you can do at this point, even more important than lynching scum day 1 imo. Yeah fair enough. I'm just going to wait until near deadline and put my vote on whichever wagon looks like the best option. Its playing percentages and not likely to be effective but I'm always bad at scumhunting on day 1 when the game plays out like this. I still want to build my spreadsheet though, so I'm going to focus on that. It usually helps me see through the fog a bit. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
On July 03 2019 04:35 Eywa- wrote: I don't think you're the only good lynch, but I think you're the most likely to get lynched of the narrow pool of acceptable lynches. The difference is negligible, so we can say you're the best lynch... or tied for the slot at least. You never mentioned who else would be a good lynch | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 03 2019 18:12 Pandain wrote: She's said several times that she might be up for lynching Grack. It would not be suspicious at all for her to vote Grack if she thought it was the only way to not get lynched. But she refused to do this. The fact she refuses to lynch someone who you think "Looks absolutely shit and a free lynch" should strike you as townie, particuarly when it's the only way she could avoid getting lynched. It also doesn't matter if she knows he's town. If she's mafia, she's trying to survive. You still can't justify mafia ES not joining the grack train. I can because I can simultaneously think Grack is mafia and do. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
On July 03 2019 19:12 Holyflare wrote: I can because I can simultaneously think Grack is mafia and do. I'm not saying this wouldn't be possible but it would be the worst possible play for ES not to join the grack train if she was mafia. It pretty much guarantees a town win if she gets lynched today. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 03 2019 18:13 Pandain wrote: Actually what does that even mean "she could know he's town." Why would that matter for mafia ES? What is this reasoning? I think you have a completely different read of how ES thinks than I do because in my world ES seems too nice to be a ruthless mafia alignment player who would callously lynch someone she's called town based on meta. I think the culmination of that personality is to slowly erode her meta read with these little sprinklings of hesitance so that eventually she can vote grack. If they are mafia together then why would she ever want to lynch her partner? | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
On July 03 2019 19:15 Holyflare wrote: If they are mafia together then why would she ever want to lynch her partner? Because if she doesn't, and then dies anyway, we kill grack tomorrow and win | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 03 2019 19:15 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm not saying this wouldn't be possible but it would be the worst possible play for ES not to join the grack train if she was mafia. It pretty much guarantees a town win if she gets lynched today. I think the worst possible play is to lynch your mafia partner after saying he's town sooooo. You don't even know mafia roles, grack could be a valuable role who knows. All I see is classic mafia traits. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 03 2019 19:16 Jockmcplop wrote: Because if she doesn't, and then dies anyway, we kill grack tomorrow and win And then she can't play after friday when her hotspot goes so okay. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
On July 03 2019 19:18 Holyflare wrote: And then she can't play after friday when her hotspot goes so okay. I prefer to at least assume that people are playing to their wincon unless they show that they aren't. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
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Jockmcplop
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9338 Posts
He has given one read and nothing else, no town reads. Could well be mafia tbh. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
She's not defending Grack and saying he's town. She's just saying his play is NAI. So your argument that she wouldn't want to lynch a town read is wrong because she hasn't town read him. Also think about this HF: If Grack turns out to be town, I'm sure you agree it would be crazy stupid for ES to not vote to lynch him. Possible, but unlikely. So we should lynch Grack first because that will help us with ES. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
1. You're wrong she is giving him a town read. She has said that certain aspects of grack's play has seemed townie, but overall she has constantly repeated that he could be either alignment. 2. We should lynch Grack first, because if Grack is town there's no way ES is mafia. | ||
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Pandain
United States12984 Posts
On July 03 2019 19:28 Jockmcplop wrote: It constantly impresses me how hf doesn't even need to do anything, people just don't want to lynch him because he's hf. He has given one read and nothing else, no town reads. Could well be mafia tbh. He's not a bad lynch. But I want to hear more from him before thinking about voting him. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 03 2019 19:36 Pandain wrote: HF you're completely misreading what ES has said. She's not defending Grack and saying he's town. She's just saying his play is NAI. So your argument that she wouldn't want to lynch a town read is wrong because she hasn't town read him. Also think about this HF: If Grack turns out to be town, I'm sure you agree it would be crazy stupid for ES to not vote to lynch him. Possible, but unlikely. So we should lynch Grack first because that will help us with ES. On July 03 2019 18:16 Eversince wrote: Meek? I've hard defended Grack on a meta read all game! @Pand ok but don't see the issue. My own read :Grack gets his thing together or lynch.I talk to Grack and he is still basic 'I'm be useless'. Everyone else pages later: Grack gets his things togthero or we lynch him. Either you're misreading or just needlessly defending her. If the person themselves said they're defending a person then what do you think they think of their alignment? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On July 03 2019 19:26 Jockmcplop wrote: Here's a spreadsheet, it was really easy to make this time, please tell me if I've got anything wrong. This is wrong, I quite clearly called out pandain and you piggybacked it but it's not here. Me being lazy doesn't make me mafia though. | ||
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