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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 08:52 GMT
#521
@ES Convince me that Eywa is mafia.

Make a post with support and quoted posts.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 03 2019 08:55 GMT
#522
On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.

@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this.


This post makes me feel so much better for you honest. Don't take this as I'm trying to buddy you. But it does make me feel a lot better again.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 03 2019 08:55 GMT
#523
On July 03 2019 17:52 Pandain wrote:
@ES Convince me that Eywa is mafia.

Make a post with support and quoted posts.


Do you want ES specifically to do this?
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 08:56 GMT
#524
anyone i guess

I actually think he's pretty townie
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 03 2019 08:58 GMT
#525
On July 03 2019 17:52 Pandain wrote:
@ES Convince me that Eywa is mafia.

Make a post with support and quoted posts.


Honestly, I can't. I'm at work on a laptop. I can try though! Depends if I have free time! If not I can 100% do it when I get home!
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 09:00 GMT
#526
On July 03 2019 17:58 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 17:52 Pandain wrote:
@ES Convince me that Eywa is mafia.

Make a post with support and quoted posts.


Honestly, I can't. I'm at work on a laptop. I can try though! Depends if I have free time! If not I can 100% do it when I get home!


ES: Eywa is mafia! Let's lynch him
Pandain: Why?
ES: Can't talk now!

hahahaha

What do you think about Jock and I's points on Grack? You only commented on your previously held beliefs regarding him. Did Jock and I make any good points?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 03 2019 09:06 GMT
#527
On July 03 2019 18:00 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 17:58 Eversince wrote:
On July 03 2019 17:52 Pandain wrote:
@ES Convince me that Eywa is mafia.

Make a post with support and quoted posts.


Honestly, I can't. I'm at work on a laptop. I can try though! Depends if I have free time! If not I can 100% do it when I get home!


ES: Eywa is mafia! Let's lynch him
Pandain: Why?
ES: Can't talk now!

hahahaha

What do you think about Jock and I's points on Grack? You only commented on your previously held beliefs regarding him. Did Jock and I make any good points?


I'm comfortable with Eywa/Conv because of reasons I've already said.
If you want me to apologies for having to work, you not getting one.
Jock seems lie misguided town more than anything.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 09:06 GMT
#528
I'm not talking about what you think about Jock. I'm asking what you think about Jock and I's reasons on Grack. You've completely ignored them.
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 03 2019 09:07 GMT
#529
And no I didn't! He responded to me and I said it was terrible!
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 03 2019 09:08 GMT
#530
Ok, let me reread from there..
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 03 2019 09:08 GMT
#531
On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.

@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this.


I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 03 2019 09:12 GMT
#532
On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.

@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this.


I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.


At least pandain's conclusion on this has logic behind it.
It makes sense that if ES is scum, she pretty much has to find a reason to vote grack to stay alive and keep mafia in the game.

This is much better logic than 'She got a meta read on me wrong, therefore she is scum' which absolutely zero fucking sense at all.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 09:12 GMT
#533
On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.

@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this.


I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.


She's said several times that she might be up for lynching Grack. It would not be suspicious at all for her to vote Grack if she thought it was the only way to not get lynched.

But she refused to do this. The fact she refuses to lynch someone who you think "Looks absolutely shit and a free lynch" should strike you as townie, particuarly when it's the only way she could avoid getting lynched.

It also doesn't matter if she knows he's town. If she's mafia, she's trying to survive.

You still can't justify mafia ES not joining the grack train.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 09:13 GMT
#534
Actually what does that even mean "she could know he's town."

Why would that matter for mafia ES?
What is this reasoning?
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 03 2019 09:16 GMT
#535
On July 03 2019 18:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 17:51 Pandain wrote:
I don't think ES is crazy/meta enough to do something like that. It's obvious she's been desperate to survive, if she was mafia she would jump at the opportunity to lynch someone she has expressed doubts about before.

@conf, HF, Rayn please comment on this.


I don't agree with your conclusion. She's meekly soft defended grack all game and then sprinkled "hesitance" and done nothing with it. They could easily be mafia together, or she could know he's town. Both things point to a mafia es because grack looks absolutely shit and a free lynch for literally anyone to hop onto.


Meek? I've hard defended Grack on a meta read all game!

@Pand ok but don't see the issue. My own read :Grack gets his thing together or lynch.I talk to Grack and he is still basic 'I'm be useless'. Everyone else pages later: Grack gets his things togthero or we lynch him.
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Eversince
Profile Joined October 2015
Philippines2303 Posts
July 03 2019 09:22 GMT
#536
On July 03 2019 18:13 Pandain wrote:
Actually what does that even mean "she could know he's town."

Why would that matter for mafia ES?
What is this reasoning?


Where did I ever say this?
Life's too short to be black and white. Make the world tie-dye!
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 03 2019 09:23 GMT
#537
On July 03 2019 18:22 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 18:13 Pandain wrote:
Actually what does that even mean "she could know he's town."

Why would that matter for mafia ES?
What is this reasoning?


Where did I ever say this?


hf said it just above, pandain was talking to hf
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 03 2019 09:42 GMT
#538
Honestly I feel like I've been flapping around and had an awful day 1. I'm surprised I haven't come under fire more for it. I can see trfel's point from yesterday, and that's not the only time I've felt like I'm digging a hole for myself by being generally clueless or inconsistent.

Although I've made some good points, none of the stuff that I've dug up or found to scumread people is particularly convincing even to me, and that includes the grack stuff today.

I just can't get a good mafia read on anyone.

I have a town read on rayn, a slight town read on conversion and anyone else could be mafia at this point. I also think ES is town after this morning.

##unvote
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9999 Posts
July 03 2019 09:44 GMT
#539
I'm going to make a spreadsheet, that normally helps. I'll post it here when I'm done for everyone's info and so people can correct me if I'm wrong. Give me a couple of hours.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
July 03 2019 09:50 GMT
#540
On July 03 2019 16:40 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2019 16:22 Pandain wrote:
Jock why are you voting Eywa?


I explained above.
Eywa would never normally deviate from her (I think its her - sorry if i got this wrong) playstyle no matter what. Now suddenly she is explaining herself fully when ES puts pressure on. That looks mafia to me.

I'm also clutching at straws somewhat because although both you and eywa seem mafia to me, I have no other scum reads and at this point neither of you are particularly strong reads right now. I'm hoping something happens today that gives me something better to go on tbh.

Everyone else seems willing to just say 'fuck it' and vote for ES because she's the only person anyone has made a proper case on (even though all of the cases against ES are weak imo and all based on stuff that doesn't necessarily make her mafia).


I think it's definitely grasping at straws. I get your point though.

But I think it's very weak to make those kinds of arguments. Where you with me when I made a huge post in a previous game about how FF was mafia becuase he was posting a lot more than in his mafia games? Previously FF always had extremely short posts, and then in this game he was making long analyses.

He ended up being town.

You're basically trying to make a meta read based on one post. I don't think it's very strong.
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