• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:11
CET 17:11
KST 01:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
What are former legends up to these days? BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1635 users

[M][N][72/24]Midnight Sun Mafia - Page 178

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 180 267 Next
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 19:07 GMT
#3541
On May 25 2019 04:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:00 iGrok wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:

iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.



Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry.

If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible.

Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice.

On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF.

This doesn't make any sense.


Good. It only makes sense to mafia who have TMI.

Every townie in the game barring you if you are actually town should have agreed with the case on you.

VE rayn and Koshi have had all the “correct” reads and literally 0 reasons. It basically feels like they are all channeling Grackaroni from last game.

The things Bugs is accusing me of do not make me mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2019 19:07 GMT
#3542
On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote:
The rest:

BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is.
Bugs I'm leaning town on.
HF is obviously mafia.
VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet.
Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea.
Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2.
Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum..


Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention".

While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol.

iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads.

How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension.


VE is scum, Jock is just Jock.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 19:08 GMT
#3543
The worst part is there's literally nothing I can do to change his read - he's just gonna herp and derp all the way to lynching me and then BLAME me for it.

In spite of the fact that...

The things Bugs is accusing me of do not make me mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 19:09 GMT
#3544
On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote:
The rest:

BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is.
Bugs I'm leaning town on.
HF is obviously mafia.
VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet.
Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea.
Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2.
Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum..


Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention".

While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol.

iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads.

How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension.


On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote:
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.

Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it


I mean it's not inconsistent with what he's said in the thread but it is opportunistic to throw in the "I haven't paid much attention to him d2".
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2019 19:09 GMT
#3545
And now I will get blackballed by the three of them whenever I speak in the thread because they cannot actually lynch me but they can drown me out.

Like HF said yesterday, give me my VE lynch tomorrow. You all can lynch me if I am wrong on VE. I guarantee you 100% I am not wrong on VE.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 19:09 GMT
#3546
On May 25 2019 04:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
And now I will get blackballed by the three of them whenever I speak in the thread because they cannot actually lynch me but they can drown me out.

Like HF said yesterday, give me my VE lynch tomorrow. You all can lynch me if I am wrong on VE. I guarantee you 100% I am not wrong on VE.

The things Bugs is accusing me of do not make me mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 19:10 GMT
#3547
##Unvote
##Vote: VisceraEyes
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 19:10 GMT
#3548
lol jk I still wanna win

But srs

The things Bugs is accusing me of do not make me mafia.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
May 24 2019 19:11 GMT
#3549
On May 25 2019 04:09 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote:
The rest:

BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is.
Bugs I'm leaning town on.
HF is obviously mafia.
VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet.
Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea.
Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2.
Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum..


Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention".

While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol.

iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads.

How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension.


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote:
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.

Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it


I mean it's not inconsistent with what he's said in the thread but it is opportunistic to throw in the "I haven't paid much attention to him d2".


I agree it's not inconsistent. But given that nobody's going to lynch you, it's logical to assume he will vote for his next scum-read...who is the counterwagon to himself.

Pretty sure he did a similar thing Day 1 where he scum-read you but had me as Lynch #2 and his vote/ unvote thing put me in the lead.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 19:11 GMT
#3550
On May 25 2019 04:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:00 iGrok wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:

iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.



Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry.

If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible.

Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice.

On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF.

This doesn't make any sense.


Good. It only makes sense to mafia who have TMI.

Every townie in the game barring you if you are actually town should have agreed with the case on you.

VE rayn and Koshi have had all the “correct” reads and literally 0 reasons. It basically feels like they are all channeling Grackaroni from last game.


I mean if he's mafia with TMI who is pushing town me then he's going to say it doesn't make sense???

Regardless, I've already done your work for you on the people not voting igrok:

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/547420-72-24-midnight-sun-mafia?page=164#3268
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 24 2019 19:17 GMT
#3551
On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote:
The rest:

BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is.
Bugs I'm leaning town on.
HF is obviously mafia.
VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet.
Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea.
Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2.
Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum..


Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention".

While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol.

iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads.

How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension.


Give me one read artanis has made based on solid townie logic.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9755 Posts
May 24 2019 19:17 GMT
#3552
On May 25 2019 04:07 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote:
The rest:

BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is.
Bugs I'm leaning town on.
HF is obviously mafia.
VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet.
Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea.
Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2.
Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum..


Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention".

While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol.

iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads.

How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension.


VE is scum, Jock is just Jock.


DISLIKE
RIP Meatloaf <3
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 24 2019 19:18 GMT
#3553
On May 25 2019 04:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:00 iGrok wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:

iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.



Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry.

If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible.

Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice.

On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF.

This doesn't make any sense.


Good. It only makes sense to mafia who have TMI.

Every townie in the game barring you if you are actually town should have agreed with the case on you.

VE rayn and Koshi have had all the “correct” reads and literally 0 reasons. It basically feels like they are all channeling Grackaroni from last game.

So, since it only makes sense to mafia, and it doesn't make sense to me, why are you still voting for me?

Also, VE, please dont do that. Point made.
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2019 19:18 GMT
#3554
On May 25 2019 04:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 25 2019 04:00 iGrok wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:

iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.



Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry.

If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible.

Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice.

On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF.

This doesn't make any sense.


Good. It only makes sense to mafia who have TMI.

Every townie in the game barring you if you are actually town should have agreed with the case on you.

VE rayn and Koshi have had all the “correct” reads and literally 0 reasons. It basically feels like they are all channeling Grackaroni from last game.


I mean if he's mafia with TMI who is pushing town me then he's going to say it doesn't make sense???

Regardless, I've already done your work for you on the people not voting igrok:

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/547420-72-24-midnight-sun-mafia?page=164#3268


Yes, and thank you for that work. The players there who literally don’t have any good reasons for not voting iGrok are VE, Koshi, and rayn.

There are good reasons to townread BC and trust he is giving iGrok a pass for reasons he actually believes. I know that because I gave iGrok a pass for very similar reasons as well.

Work with me here and actually look in VE’s filter for the things I just asked Artanis and BC to comment on.

idc if we lynch iGrok today because his defense is garbage and him flipping either alignment is beneficial because it forces everyone to reread the game. In the world he flips town, I strongly believe VE & rayn & koshi are scum together.

Some of the evidence already points in this direction but it’s mostly evidence we’re not considering very strongly because of how straight up awful iGrok looks. The only people who have consistently 100% ignored good evidence in this game, not just on iGrok but literally every other player, are rayn Koshi and VE.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
May 24 2019 19:18 GMT
#3555
I have to say Conversion's re-entry today was really bad for several reasons:

He didn't actually remember what his read on iGrok was:

On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course!

Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list?


pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia:

you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand)

iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that

anyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you?


but his read just a few posts before was:

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok


I called him out and it was:

On May 25 2019 00:37 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 00:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 25 2019 00:28 Conversion wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:32 Holyflare wrote:
On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


I'm sorry you feel this way and honestly, I'm not surprised. I've played a really mediocre game so far. This doesn't discourage me though, you're a good player and it's only natural for human error to make you waiver on your judgement and be wrong sometimes. I'll endeavour to put you back on the correct course!

Can you answer me one thing though! How come I am next to iGrok on a list?


pre reading HF's dissertation on why iGrok is mafia:

you're next to iGrok on a list because historically I read you as mafia when you are town, and town when you are mafia (although iirc you've been mafia once in CCCP when you/koshi/+1 just completely bulldozed town with some fuckery that I still don't understand)

iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that

anyways I know you're into this iGrok lynch-- who else? is Artanis still on board with you?


On May 24 2019 04:01 Conversion wrote:
jokes aside, I'm in a pretty good mood. I'm flying to California soon, maybe I'll check in in a bit to read the thread some more.

here's my state of the game:

list of reads so far:

(the tiers are orders, the people in tiers are not)

REREAD WHEN I HAVE TIME (these 2 were scum before, what do I think about them now?):
koshi
disformation

town, never lynch:
bugs (pls come back bugs when it is morning in JAPAN)

probably town, look at others below before lynching:
calix
VE
BC
jock
rayn

null to scummish depending on how well I slept that night:
holyflare
igrok

probably scum:
artanis


but you put him as null to scummish???



considering I have one probably scum, two people I want to actively re-evaluate, and basically the rest of the game town, I could see him being scum by purely PoE.

if you're asking why it's weird that I'd have you both in the scummish pile, the moment I'd read either one of you as town/mafia, I'd re-evaluate. I don't see a world where busy mafia!Holyflare screams about mafia!iGrok all day (and now more compounded by your behemoth of a post on why he's scum).

I guess if I really wanted to tinfoil I could see a mafia!iGrok trying to weakly push a mafia!HF while it's "safe" to do so, but the EoD still doesn't make sense. no need to draw random bad attention to yourself like that. just AFK.


It's really weird because his original post had this:


iGrok I felt was town b/c the EoD thing he did was sooo weird. like who does that as scum? I haven't read into him much besides that


So it was like he was just getting ready to jump on the bandwagon? Coupled with his posts after researching iGrok it's:

On May 25 2019 00:50 Conversion wrote:
hmm damn I really hate iGrok's OMGUS case against HF. If he believed in it so hard, why was he floating by the thread reminiscing about the Good Ol' Days.. instead of pushing his actual scumread or at least doing something around then. If HF didn't write that dissertation, would he have even popped up to do anything?

woof

On May 25 2019 00:53 Conversion wrote:
oooh I think I'm seeing the light HF (not gonna lie I didn't really read your big wall of texterino)

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 08:22 iGrok wrote:
I've only got three points on rux. 1 null, 1 town, 1 scum (#1347). Initially thought rux was scummy but others have been more active, generating more scum points.

If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux.

Still don't know wtf to think about HF/Calix. there's something I'm just not seeing.
Calix did soft defend rux once but thats not a major point either...


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 06:30 iGrok wrote:
Oh right,
##Vote: Calix


Show nested quote +
On May 22 2019 06:41 iGrok wrote:
Because I don't think I can get HF lynched.



but he still votes HF at the end!


It turns out he doesn't even know really why iGrok voted where he did or what was going on? I find that hard to believe since he interacted with iGrok for like the entire hour before deadline? Conversion wasn't interested where people were voted? He even got iGrok's vote wrong!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 19:19 GMT
#3556
On May 25 2019 04:18 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:06 wherebugsgo wrote:
On May 25 2019 04:00 iGrok wrote:
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:

iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you.



Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry.

If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible.

Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice.

On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF.

This doesn't make any sense.


Good. It only makes sense to mafia who have TMI.

Every townie in the game barring you if you are actually town should have agreed with the case on you.

VE rayn and Koshi have had all the “correct” reads and literally 0 reasons. It basically feels like they are all channeling Grackaroni from last game.

So, since it only makes sense to mafia, and it doesn't make sense to me, why are you still voting for me?

Also, VE, please dont do that. Point made.

Don't tell me what to do sir. We've been begging you to play more and now you're about to be lynched because you didn't.

So no, I won't be not doing that thing you asked me to not do.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
May 24 2019 19:19 GMT
#3557
On May 25 2019 04:17 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2019 04:05 Calix wrote:
On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote:
The rest:

BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is.
Bugs I'm leaning town on.
HF is obviously mafia.
VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet.
Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea.
Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2.
Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum..


Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention".

While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol.

iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads.

How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension.


Give me one read artanis has made based on solid townie logic.

God, this so much. Couldnt put it into words but yaaaas
MOTM | Stim.tv | TL Mafia | Fantasy Fighting! | SNSD
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
May 24 2019 19:20 GMT
#3558
The cherry on top of is that literally none of those players push any lynches either. iGrok falls into that category as well but he doesn’t fit any of the broader patterns.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 19:21 GMT
#3559
On May 25 2019 04:20 wherebugsgo wrote:
The cherry on top of is that literally none of those players push any lynches either. iGrok falls into that category as well but he doesn’t fit any of the broader patterns.

SOUNDS LIKE A WINNING MAFIA TEAM BUGS!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 24 2019 19:21 GMT
#3560
THESE THREE PLAYERS NOT PUSHING ANY LYNCHES ARE MAFIA!

YOU KNOW, MAFIA WHO HAVE TO PUSH LYNCHES TO WIN! THESE THREE DUDES NOT DOING ANY OF THAT ARE CERTAINLY THE MAFIA I WAS JUST DESCRIBING!!!
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Prev 1 176 177 178 179 180 267 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 49m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 489
Hui .162
BRAT_OK 64
DivinesiaTV 41
MindelVK 38
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31839
Rain 7299
Sea 3343
Jaedong 1736
EffOrt 1163
Shuttle 770
Mini 689
GuemChi 633
Stork 566
firebathero 335
[ Show more ]
Soma 320
Light 306
Hyuk 264
ggaemo 261
hero 251
Rush 158
PianO 104
Mind 91
Hyun 68
soO 61
Pusan 42
sorry 41
Terrorterran 39
Yoon 34
910 28
zelot 23
Sexy 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 16
HiyA 13
Shine 11
SilentControl 6
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
syndereN1864
Fuzer 242
canceldota210
Other Games
Grubby5984
singsing2818
B2W.Neo590
Mlord497
Mew2King94
ArmadaUGS91
FrodaN0
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick912
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 96
• 3DClanTV 53
• HeavenSC 18
• Adnapsc2 13
• iHatsuTV 9
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler102
League of Legends
• Nemesis2470
• Jankos2224
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 49m
BSL 21
3h 49m
Cross vs Dewalt
Replay Cast
16h 49m
Wardi Open
19h 49m
OSC
1d 19h
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
6 days
OSC
6 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.