EPTEven if some of it looks very scummy, I can see a way that iGrock could feasibly be town. Not Artanis.
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10022 Posts
Even if some of it looks very scummy, I can see a way that iGrock could feasibly be town. Not Artanis. ##unvote ##vote Artanis | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10022 Posts
I'll try and check in briefly every now and then but I'll be phone posting which I suck at so no more reads maybe some shenanigans if that happens. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
HF still might be town and mafia riding his ass. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 25 2019 03:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Whatwcer fick No u | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I am honestly no more hwre. Do somethibg???? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 25 2019 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am honestly no more hwre. Do somethibg???? Vote Artanis and I will vote tomorrow with you. Same deal as with Calix. I put in more effort. I am not going to vote an universel townread. If Conversion flips town, nobody gained any progress in their reads. If Artanis flips town some will. | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On May 25 2019 03:50 iGrok wrote: Why do rayn think conv is mafia? He explained it. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On May 25 2019 03:36 Holyflare wrote: Look, I don't care if you read me mafia or if I read you mafia I just want an honest answer, as the guy responsible for leading the lynch on you. Why have you not reevaluated your read on me when your town read disformation has said you've got it wrong, your other town reads don't scum read me for what you say and they play a lot more with me than you do? I've pointed out where you're wrong on me and you fail to evaluate new information, why? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
Because he is convinced you are mafia. There. The correct answer. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you. I’m going to do something heroic and at least temporarily promote both Artanis and BC to townies so that I can get their opinions here. @Artanis[Xp] and @BloodyC0bbler: I know you’re both short on time and actually oddly enough this is why I really value both of your opinions at this stage in the game. 1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok? 2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads? 3. I would appreciate if you take a moment to let me know what your recollection is of VE, rayn, and Koshi reading each other, when they reached said reads, and what led them to read each other in said way. Please give both your gut read based on memory and then whatever you can support with evidence. Also if you can comment on whether you’ve ever noticed any of the three of them have a constructive discussion with you or a townread of yours. By constructive, I mean an interaction where the player does not simply shoot down an idea, but instead either 1.) builds on it or 2.) asks a clarifying question when there is a clear disagreement. 10,000 arbitrary bonus points for either of these two scenarios: a follow up on a question and an unprompted, proactive question about a read that the player holds. Final caveat: anything to the other two does not count. Please write your response before reading the spoiler below. + Show Spoiler + I find it hilarious that VE and Koshi both basically instantly started distancing each other and VE started distancing rayn when I mentioned a second time the possibility of a VE/rayn/Koshi scum team. This actually happened for a brief moment by VE on both of them right around when Jock became confirmed god-town and then presumably stopped when no one actually scumread rayn in the aftermath. + Show Spoiler + I can guarantee the three of you that if even one of you is scum, you’re going to have to kill me in the next half cycle or you will be lynched. and if you are scum together, distancing or bussing each other at this point is futile because I have seen everything. The three of you have ridden each other’s dicks for 95% of the game so far and if you stop now when iGrok is still the lynch and no one is moving votes, you have TMI. Koshi I see you scumming HF, calling me bad and getting prepared to move to iGrok when you’ve now realized what I’m up to and that defending iGrok now is an indication of TMI. We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote: omg I shouldn’t be awake right now. I have a class in 6 hours and it’s all humid and hot in here. Hate this season in Japan and it’s only beginning iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you. I’m going to do something heroic and at least temporarily promote both Artanis and BC to townies so that I can get their opinions here. @Artanis[Xp] and @BloodyC0bbler: I know you’re both short on time and actually oddly enough this is why I really value both of your opinions at this stage in the game. 1. To BC: do you agree with the case on iGrok? 2. To both of you: can you again provide a list of all your reads? 3. I would appreciate if you take a moment to let me know what your recollection is of VE, rayn, and Koshi reading each other, when they reached said reads, and what led them to read each other in said way. Please give both your gut read based on memory and then whatever you can support with evidence. Also if you can comment on whether you’ve ever noticed any of the three of them have a constructive discussion with you or a townread of yours. By constructive, I mean an interaction where the player does not simply shoot down an idea, but instead either 1.) builds on it or 2.) asks a clarifying question when there is a clear disagreement. 10,000 arbitrary bonus points for either of these two scenarios: a follow up on a question and an unprompted, proactive question about a read that the player holds. Final caveat: anything to the other two does not count. Please write your response before reading the spoiler below. + Show Spoiler + I find it hilarious that VE and Koshi both basically instantly started distancing each other and VE started distancing rayn when I mentioned a second time the possibility of a VE/rayn/Koshi scum team. This actually happened for a brief moment by VE on both of them right around when Jock became confirmed god-town and then presumably stopped when no one actually scumread rayn in the aftermath. + Show Spoiler + I can guarantee the three of you that if even one of you is scum, you’re going to have to kill me in the next half cycle or you will be lynched. and if you are scum together, distancing or bussing each other at this point is futile because I have seen everything. The three of you have ridden each other’s dicks for 95% of the game so far and if you stop now when iGrok is still the lynch and no one is moving votes, you have TMI. Koshi I see you scumming HF, calling me bad and getting prepared to move to iGrok when you’ve now realized what I’m up to and that defending iGrok now is an indication of TMI. We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF. WHAT IF I'M TOWN ASSHOLE?!? WHAT THE FUCK IF I'M TOWN I COULDN'T HELP BUT NOTICE THAT YOU LEFT OUT THAT POSSIBILITY FROM YOUR LITTLE BULLSHIT BUT THAT'S THE CASE AND YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT SO TELL ME HOW YOUR THOUGHTS CHANGE IF I'M TOWN | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote: Artanis[xp] | ||
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iGrok
United States5142 Posts
On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote: iGrok if you are town you need to do a better job of explaining yourself. You’re still getting lynched at this rate because I can’t even read your blurry images so to me it seems like you don’t want people to read what you’ve written, if indeed you have spent some effort on the game. I can’t see a town motivation for that so if you can’t even do the common courtesy of copy pasting that into the thread then there is 0 chance of anyone moving their vote on you. Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry. If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible. Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice. On May 25 2019 03:56 wherebugsgo wrote: We are lynching iGrok today, and you know that if he flips town, I will never lynch HF. This doesn't make any sense. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
This goes on every page from now until I die. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
On May 25 2019 02:51 iGrok wrote: The rest: BC is a complete null to me. Don't have a single idea where he is. Bugs I'm leaning town on. HF is obviously mafia. VE I'm not sure. Lots of points, haven't contextualized them well yet. Jock is also null, same deal. Some town some scum, especially the domino lynch proposal is just never a good idea. Artanis is leaning scum, but I haven't paid much attention to him D2. Calix's early game felt real bad, but I'm convinced on HF and also don't think Calix and HF can both be scum.. Translation: I have no other scum reads aside from Artanis, the guy who is the scum-driven counter-wagon. I will be voting for Artanis at EOD but I'll pretend this isn't what I'm planning to do by saying "I haven't paid much attention". While we're on the topic of 'scum driven wagons', Koshi is only now willing to put aside his scum read of me if it means he can vote off Artanis instead. It's so obvious that's what these two scummers are leading up to, lol. iGrok's reappearance has to be the most disappointing letdown in mafia history. He doesn't even try looking into Artanis or talk about other players or anything. Seriously, almost all his recent posts do nothing to help town. Page 6 of his filter is appallingly scant of discussion about other players despite having a bunch of null and 'uncertain' reads. How the fuck VE and Jock looked at iGrok's posts and conclude Artanis is more mafia is beyond my comprehension. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 25 2019 04:00 iGrok wrote: Copy/pasting breaks all the formatting and leaves it illegible. I tried that originally, didn't work. Sorry. If you click on the image, it'll take you to the imgur site where you can see it full size. You may need to click it on their site to fully zoom in, but I promise its completely legible. Sorry but I'm just not going to format something twice. This doesn't make any sense. Good. It only makes sense to mafia who have TMI. Every townie in the game barring you if you are actually town should have agreed with the case on you. VE rayn and Koshi have had all the “correct” reads and literally 0 reasons. It basically feels like they are all channeling Grackaroni from last game. | ||
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