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On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat.
She is mafia and this is how she is as mafia.
She is a pleasant and smart person as town.
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On May 22 2019 08:39 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat. Holy shit, you bite back. I think I need to sit down for a moment. But in all seriousness, this post actually sounds like a town frustrated at my perceived stubbornness.
You funny
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On May 22 2019 08:52 Calix wrote:Could have worse people to discuss things with near the deadline, I guess 
Yes. People with braincells.
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On May 22 2019 09:03 ruXxar wrote:
cba to put up any resistance tbh.
im happy with my day 1 performance.
Well played friend.
No spam.
Well constructed posts.
I think pretty good scumreads.
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On May 22 2019 09:36 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 09:30 iGrok wrote:On May 22 2019 09:03 ruXxar wrote:
cba to put up any resistance tbh.
im happy with my day 1 performance. Well that’s just... ugh. Underwhelming? Yes. Find anything else, iGrok? Since thread is dead, I imagine you're kinda caught up at this point.
What a reaction. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
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On May 22 2019 09:50 iGrok wrote:
Still not sure between you and HF, but one of you is scum. Alternatively, HF made a +2 level play and you both are, but that’s... unlikely. Josh I, Convo, disinformation, and rayn are pretty green. I think disinfo is just going with ruxxar to get something done, and the other three votes on him are mixed signals at best. And while I did initially have ruxxar as red, he did make a good post that put him back to null for me. So I’m ok with ruxxar but I’d still rather have a better target if I can.
Outside of you and HF, Artanis is my next lowest read right now, but I don’t think that’s likely to happen. Anyone who thinks it could though, speak up and let’s talk about it
Tip top town.
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On May 22 2019 10:21 iGrok wrote:
Seriously, I think the logic there is pretty straightforward, but to reiterate:
Calix and Ruxx are not both mafia, because mafia would not bus a teammate when the votes are close like this.
Ruxx and HF aren't both mafia because Ruxxar called HF on some shit that most other people didn't, it was a weird attack when HF was not seeing any real pressure.
Calix and HF aren't both mafia because HF looked like he was trying to set up a wagon on Calix earlier.
so what this means is:
If you think that any one of HF, Calix, or Ruxx are mafia, it has to be HF
Bad boi bad boi.
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On May 22 2019 10:23 Conversion wrote:just ctrl + f'd Koshi's filter-- if ruxxar flips mafia there's 0% chance he is. dude is sticking his NECK out for ruxxar for absolutely no reason. disfo I think the flip matters less... I'll revisit harder next day though, no time to tunnel now going into ruxxar: I really hate his overall play of just randomly swinging in and out, but can someone explain why these two posts are bad? Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 06:02 ruXxar wrote:On May 21 2019 03:40 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On May 20 2019 23:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On May 20 2019 23:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get it, they're two different things, HF's claim last game and the way rayn phrased his intro this game, and they're like apples to oranges or whatever, but it seems like BC is referring to more the mindset behind it all, like someone who fakeclaims the way HF did last game wouldn't/shouldn't be all up in rayns ass the way he is for what he is - not necessarily drawing a direct parallel between the two occurrences, but more commenting on the mindset that drives them both. I disagree that it necessarily means that HF should die, but I can kinda see where he's coming from. From what I recall BC's mafia game tends to be more stand-offish and abrasive than his town game, and it feels like he's doing just that. Are you not bothered by him driving the Calix point home for following thread sentiment in a wordy manner whilst literally following thread sentiment? Wait wait wait? Let me get this straight. In a thread where basically only 2 people (one of which I was the first to really scum read) being rayn and ruxxar all saw Calix as scum. Where at a time, Rayn was getting shit on from the entire thread. I was pushing thread sentiment? I was stopping a shit show of cluttering of the thread as best I could. Ruxxar? Thread sentiment? Literally the first to bring him up. Disinformation? same basic thing. So basically fuck you artanis. I tried to keep people off you so you could come back and at least do something. I give next to 0 fucks you chose to filter dive me cause well its at least productive but for you to completely read the thread wrong means you skim read, didnt read, or chose to fabricate shit. ESPECIALLY when you filter dive me. Sorry, if you outright say you are reading my filter, I expect you to read the thread at the time of my postings, otherwise you are legit making shit up. So you wanted me to read you? You can join the mafia side of my list.
On May 20 2019 04:47 ruXxar wrote:
sup guys, long time no see. skimmed through the thread, dont remember all the specifics.
i dont wanna lynch the active people, cause they make the game fun.
- jockmcplop is top town, he speaks from his heart.
- hf looks townie, i love when he gets riled up.
- VE seems aight, could be deviously smart mafia.
- rayn attacking jockmcplop is dumb, and his fumbling to explain his first post was meh, dont make him mafia tho.
- bugs looks aigh tish.
- i dont like calix. seem stiff and too sure of himself. looks like hes posting with perferct information.
already certain of his opinons, and just tries to find the best angle to defend them.
##Vote calix On May 20 2019 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:I am not sure i will bother to play a game with this amount of retarded people. Yes, it's fucking retarded when you are clearly being cased regardless of whatever Holyflare says afterwards and people won't accept your completely reasonable and easily truth-checkable explanation. I also find it completely unreasonable that people continue with their bullshit on me based on "rayn ahs no opinions" after i gave my opinion on everyone who had posted so far in the game. When everyone else's only real read was a stupidass shitread on me based on fucking nothing. So keep your stupid little circle jerk and dont talk to me please. Unless you're VE or Artanis. Bugs can go to Acrofales pile if he is town and sadly i am not even sure he is not. Acrofales pile is a pile where people who i thought very high of earlier but turns out they are not good town players after all go.Everything he posts is just so fucking wrong and he is even trying to coach me or some shit. I could't care less what the dude writes, because it's jsut straight out BS out of his keyboard, seems like the pattern from last game continues. + Show Spoiler +On May 11 2019 06:56 wherebugsgo wrote:
likewise, 13/10 would ignore both rayn and HF again rayn voted: D1 - mafia bugs voted: D1 - town D2 - town D3 - town D4 - town i laughed at that comment for liek 10 minutes. for real. gonna vote for mafia again. ##vote Calix When you have these two posts in the thread then making the following post on calix is not exactly a bold original idea. It could be construed as trying to get a second wagon started without risking yourself. Do notice that both me and rayn voted for calix. But bloody despite calling her post «screaming fucking mafia» did not join voting. Perhaps waiting to see if thread sentiment would build further onto calix first. On May 20 2019 06:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:honestly thought this was going to start you know, not when it did. As I am just finishing the catch up so far. Anyone who liked the fact HF started the vote train and swing onto rayn based off the Town Vanilla post should be shooting HF with a gun. Why? Because HF claims / fake claims shit every fucking game and gets pissed if you lynch him off it. If someones whos moto is to be a troll with claims decides to start any form of suspicion on someone for any style of claim he deserves to be doused in fire and die. Now. If you voted for Rayn for anything after his claim and before Calix appeared in the thread, you are in the clear for now. Calix imo screams fucking mafia. His first post, Which I will quote here just to bring it back to the forefront On May 19 2019 22:38 Calix wrote:
Hi.
HF/ Jock said a lot of what I was going to say so I don't have much new to add. They're currently my top town-reads because of that and I'm happy to sheep them.
I like WBG's #220, that looks like a post a townie would make when they're trying to be reasonable and not just jump down their suspect's throat.
Personally, I don't like how rayn has been acting during his latest interaction with Jock. Jock's been on the offensive and looking really townie while rayn's responses have been lacking.
(I don't care about the role stuff. It has nothing to do with my vote)
##vote raynpelikoneet this post is extremely fucking scummy. His entire post screams thread sentiment while offering nothing new, gives a shitty reason to drop a vote. He "red" reads rayn for being lacking while his entire post is lacking anything but "certainty" then spends the rest of his time basically doing nothing aside from "keep voting rayn" while offering nothing new before vanishing. Show nested quote +On May 21 2019 11:30 ruXxar wrote:
Bugs sounding like a broken record and repeating yourself ad nauseam doesnt make the genie pop out of bottle and make your wish of me being mafia come true.
It does however make me think youre just a dumb town tunneling. Unless youre scum buddy with calix trying to deflect his lynch(which i find unlikely after your call out post), youre just stuck in the typical town ego trap of mafia read confirmation bias. Your ego wont allow you to back down from this lynch now that youve put so much into it.
I see no point why you as mafia would keep pushing me at this point.
Thats fine, i get it, ive been there. Ill just ignore you from now on as youre very clearly too deep in the hole to think rationally any longer.
I do want to bring attention to the huge momentum swing we’ve had in activity from certain players.
The beginning of the game was a big shitshow dominated by the presence of rayn and hf. Both of which have gone either completely silent(rayn) or currently do not give a shit(hf)
Rayn really outed himself in a dumb way that i dont think mafia would do. He took a what i would consider big gamble by goung full retard. He was on the chopping block for a while but made it out alive. Hes very likely town at this point.
Hf on the other hand, is currently playing a masterful scum game. Hes controlling his thread presence well, but has basically taken no hard scum stances on anyone. Hes wobbling and flaky in his reads and he refuses to take a stance on the main wagons by either defending or pushing them (calix and me).
Lately he seems very content with where the thread is heading and is very indifferent to the outcome of this lynch, despite claiming that i was not scum earlier and refusing to make up a fresh opinion.
I see no real motivation behind his actions besides his content in letting this lynch play out.
HF reeks of scum and is almost certain to flip mafia at this point, summing up the development of his thread interaction, lack of real motivation and indifference to the current situation.
Tldr:
Bugs is dumbo town.
Rayn is town.
HF is mafia.
##vote holyflare
is it because it feels like it's mafia flailing last minute?
The reason is because I am town and I dont like town being lynched.
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Calix is mafia. Oh you people suck so much.
Cant believe it.
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And BC might be with her.
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Calix
BC
And then 4 others.
If we lynch BC I can make a better judgement who is left in pool.
But BC has a 75% chance tops.
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On May 22 2019 15:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat. She is mafia and this is how she is as mafia. She is a pleasant and smart person as town.
I don't know how you took that away from this post but what I took away was iGrok saying he's trying to figure out the game while simultaneously having a fake dichotomy between calix and myself and never doing much else.
If he's town why does he get his points proven wrong and not go "hmmm better reread that maybe I'm wrong." He just sticks with the incorrect narrative and ignores it because that is more simple to push his mafia agenda of this fake pondering.
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On May 22 2019 15:39 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 15:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
Sorry for breaking the rules I didn't even think at the time.
I can continue to play but its up to you guys really. I don't want people to think they should lynch me and not bother because of what I said, that would suck hard and be unfair
The other option is I stop posting altogether for this game, which I'm absolutely fine with.
JOCK YOU'RE BACK :D I'm actually really happy cause I got sad reading that huge mess and I was really enjoying playing with you. BTW idk if you saw this earlier but let's hydra next game (or maybe you can hydra with someone not as shitty as me). I kinda wanna hydra cause my solo scum reads are garbage and I need to work on that, plus it's super fun to chat about the game with someone you know is seeing it from a similar in-game perspective Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 15:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
as usual I don't think I have any idea what's going on this game so I'm going to step back for a long while. I can't make heads nor tails of the giant mess that happened around when HF swapped to Jock for his contradiction and that's actually made me question literally all of my townreads because people I thought would look worse look better and people I'd thought look better in some cases look worse.
I felt pretty good about HF and BC but now I'm just confused. someone help. What the fuck have I done that makes you question those reads??? You're the one who defended and saved igrok who has the shittest logic I've ever seen. He's picked 3 random people and decided one has to be mafia in it for absolutely no reason related to in game posts and then done nothing. I've completely decimated his post on me and disfo even confirmed it and he hasn't even batted an eyelidm read my next few posts, my read on you hasn't actually changed, and I think on principle my read on BC hasn't really changed much either, just a bit wary/bothered that he bristled on Artanis so hard. Lots of interactions to play with there though and I'm on the side of Artanis being scum for now so we'll see what happens. Actually not sure if he's my top scum read yet as I think I want to prepare something for someone else. The main catalyst for me being utterly confused is that the jock mess actually caused rayn to shoot up townier in my reads list. Like something just went off in my head as I flashbacked to last game; I probably wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't also seen and acted on the exact same contradiction by voting. Like my personal opinion as I was in the process of reading that entire exchange was in agreement with Calix, that what Jock posted was indeed a contradiction and that it looked pretty awful but in context of the sea of posts Jock had I didn't think it lent much to Jock being scum. However, given how rayn plays I could 100% see town rayn just completely ignoring everything else and attacking Jock for that because that's literally what he did to me last game; he picked on the fact that I was a bit too slow in explaining some particular read I had for him and then he just didn't let that go. I really didn't notice this earlier in the game because I pretty much tuned out both rayn and Koshi for a good chunk of time and haven't really reread them at all. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 15:27 Holyflare wrote:
That's fine. Please read igrok and then my points about him. Let's talk about iGrok and Calix's interaction from EoD, I want to be convinced here because I'm on the town iGrok train with rayn/koshi/maybe now Calix and want to understand more. He had a fake vote on Calix as well as rayn, but only pointed out the one on rayn. He talked about a vote on Calix as if it wasn't a fake vote, and I found that odd. Why be transparent about one and not the other? Could chalk it up to a mistake...but otherwise the crux of my read at this moment is tone/behaviour; I saw how Calix reacted to their interaction by backing off a bit on iGrok and he did a very similar thing to me on the last page when I called him out for the 1 scum 2 town thing. Do you acknowledge those things or do you think they're not relevant here? Lastly HF, I want you to read this string of posts from VE, and just note it, you don't have to provide thoughts yet. I'm going to make a callout of some other oddities later tonight when I have some more time and let people come to their own conclusions about what they mean. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo bugs. I'll lynch Ruxxar now. If you want. *shrug* Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean we're secure in a lynch now, like you wanted. But like...I could maybe lynch ruxx. You're right, the resistance was real. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Only if you stop calling me mafia though, and stop freaking the fuck out.
Then I'll switch my vote. Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also if ruxxar flips town I’m killing anyone who townread him omg then you can fuck yourself I'll just kill MY scumread. LOL
I don't really know where he ever says his calix vote is fake, nor do I care.
If his rayn vote is fake and you know it was fake, why does he use it as a reason to scum read me in his case as if it were real?
I liked VE's deadline posts.
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On May 22 2019 16:23 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 15:43 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2019 08:35 iGrok wrote:
@Calix, you obviously can't read me or don't want to. You're throwing a bunch of extra implications into my statement.
"If it comes down to myself, bc, or rux, I will obviously vote rux." does not mean "I want to vote rux". Give me a fucking break.
I took my vote off you despite knowing that my having put the earlier vote on you would probably be the tiebreaker for the lynch. I did this because I'm just trying to figure the game out, realized I had made a mistake, and fucking owned up to it instead of rolling on ahead ignoring everyone else.
That being said, I'm not a village idiot, I don't want to die today, and I know that I'm at least as likely to be town as BC/Rux because, from my perspective, I'm 100% town. So if that's what it comes down to, yeah I'll vote for either of them in a heartbeat. She is mafia and this is how she is as mafia. She is a pleasant and smart person as town. I don't know how you took that away from this post but what I took away was iGrok saying he's trying to figure out the game while simultaneously having a fake dichotomy between calix and myself and never doing much else. If he's town why does he get his points proven wrong and not go "hmmm better reread that maybe I'm wrong." He just sticks with the incorrect narrative and ignores it because that is more simple to push his mafia agenda of this fake pondering.
Read Calix her accusation. Twas dumb.
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Calix supermafia.
But pls lynch Ruxxar who calls out the supermafia.
🎵Bad town bad town, what you gonna do when they come for you 🎵
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I also applaud Ruxxar his reaction.
So much confidence.
Good job friend. Good job.
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Imagine hf is town and a pleasant person to play with. 😱😱
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On May 22 2019 16:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 15:39 wherebugsgo wrote:On May 22 2019 15:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
Sorry for breaking the rules I didn't even think at the time.
I can continue to play but its up to you guys really. I don't want people to think they should lynch me and not bother because of what I said, that would suck hard and be unfair
The other option is I stop posting altogether for this game, which I'm absolutely fine with.
JOCK YOU'RE BACK :D I'm actually really happy cause I got sad reading that huge mess and I was really enjoying playing with you. BTW idk if you saw this earlier but let's hydra next game (or maybe you can hydra with someone not as shitty as me). I kinda wanna hydra cause my solo scum reads are garbage and I need to work on that, plus it's super fun to chat about the game with someone you know is seeing it from a similar in-game perspective On May 22 2019 15:13 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 12:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
as usual I don't think I have any idea what's going on this game so I'm going to step back for a long while. I can't make heads nor tails of the giant mess that happened around when HF swapped to Jock for his contradiction and that's actually made me question literally all of my townreads because people I thought would look worse look better and people I'd thought look better in some cases look worse.
I felt pretty good about HF and BC but now I'm just confused. someone help. What the fuck have I done that makes you question those reads??? You're the one who defended and saved igrok who has the shittest logic I've ever seen. He's picked 3 random people and decided one has to be mafia in it for absolutely no reason related to in game posts and then done nothing. I've completely decimated his post on me and disfo even confirmed it and he hasn't even batted an eyelidm read my next few posts, my read on you hasn't actually changed, and I think on principle my read on BC hasn't really changed much either, just a bit wary/bothered that he bristled on Artanis so hard. Lots of interactions to play with there though and I'm on the side of Artanis being scum for now so we'll see what happens. Actually not sure if he's my top scum read yet as I think I want to prepare something for someone else. The main catalyst for me being utterly confused is that the jock mess actually caused rayn to shoot up townier in my reads list. Like something just went off in my head as I flashbacked to last game; I probably wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't also seen and acted on the exact same contradiction by voting. Like my personal opinion as I was in the process of reading that entire exchange was in agreement with Calix, that what Jock posted was indeed a contradiction and that it looked pretty awful but in context of the sea of posts Jock had I didn't think it lent much to Jock being scum. However, given how rayn plays I could 100% see town rayn just completely ignoring everything else and attacking Jock for that because that's literally what he did to me last game; he picked on the fact that I was a bit too slow in explaining some particular read I had for him and then he just didn't let that go. I really didn't notice this earlier in the game because I pretty much tuned out both rayn and Koshi for a good chunk of time and haven't really reread them at all. On May 22 2019 15:27 Holyflare wrote:
That's fine. Please read igrok and then my points about him. Let's talk about iGrok and Calix's interaction from EoD, I want to be convinced here because I'm on the town iGrok train with rayn/koshi/maybe now Calix and want to understand more. He had a fake vote on Calix as well as rayn, but only pointed out the one on rayn. He talked about a vote on Calix as if it wasn't a fake vote, and I found that odd. Why be transparent about one and not the other? Could chalk it up to a mistake...but otherwise the crux of my read at this moment is tone/behaviour; I saw how Calix reacted to their interaction by backing off a bit on iGrok and he did a very similar thing to me on the last page when I called him out for the 1 scum 2 town thing. Do you acknowledge those things or do you think they're not relevant here? Lastly HF, I want you to read this string of posts from VE, and just note it, you don't have to provide thoughts yet. I'm going to make a callout of some other oddities later tonight when I have some more time and let people come to their own conclusions about what they mean. On May 22 2019 08:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo bugs. I'll lynch Ruxxar now. If you want. *shrug* On May 22 2019 08:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean we're secure in a lynch now, like you wanted. But like...I could maybe lynch ruxx. You're right, the resistance was real. On May 22 2019 08:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Only if you stop calling me mafia though, and stop freaking the fuck out.
Then I'll switch my vote. On May 22 2019 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 22 2019 08:30 wherebugsgo wrote:
Also if ruxxar flips town I’m killing anyone who townread him omg then you can fuck yourself I'll just kill MY scumread. LOL I don't really know where he ever says his calix vote is fake, nor do I care. If his rayn vote is fake and you know it was fake, why does he use it as a reason to scum read me in his case as if it were real? I liked VE's deadline posts.
Here's the "I unvoted Calix" thing, iGrok doesn't say it was a fake vote:
On May 22 2019 07:16 iGrok wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2019 07:11 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 07:09 iGrok wrote:On May 22 2019 07:05 Holyflare wrote:On May 22 2019 06:43 iGrok wrote:
Hmm... I didn't actually put together that HF going for ez lynch onto Calix makes it less likely for them both to be mafia. Good catch disinfo.
##unvote calix while processing On May 22 2019 07:01 iGrok wrote:On May 22 2019 07:00 Koshi wrote:
iGrok if you get yourself lunched over 100% Calix and 85% mafia BC.... Sad days bro. Yeah, not really sure what to do about this. I've got to decide if Calix is mafia and HF is dumbtown or vice versa How the fuck do you have to decide about THIS scenario. Either I went for the easy lynch on Calix YOUR MAFIA READ as mafia or town. But how does it make me dumb town OR mafia to do this? How does Calix's alignment make any difference to my alignment in this scenario? If you are going for an easy lynch on anyone you can, you are mafia. If you are mafia, and you try to push an easy lynch on calix, calix is not mafia. If you legit thought calix was mafia, so you tried to lynch him, you are town. Are you with me? Calix is your scum read, arguably the most you've talked about. Why would I be a DUMB TOWN to vote on the person you think is mafia? You are voting calix now. I am not and really don't think we should be. Why are our alignments opposite? Surely I did a weak push and now we're both mafia??? This reads as extremely fake, I'm not even pushing calix and I don't really think I've pushed calix strongly all game so this indecision about our alignments reads really forced. I unvoted on Calix when disinfo pointed out the logic. And alright, dumb town is harsh? but I still don't like jumping across so many accusation focuses so early.
But he never put this vote in the vote thread and never mentioned that he didn't do that (unlike the rayn one) and the only reason I even noticed this is because I knew from the vote thread that iGrok technically never voted until his first and final vote on you. I only wanted to point out that iGrok said his rayn vote was fake, but he never said that his Calix vote was fake, and I find that weird. I'd like him to explain this, actually.
Anyway, I don't know if they mean anything in terms of iGrok's alignment. Like from some weird perspective I could imagine he wanted to see reactions to him "voting" rayn in thread but didn't want to place a real vote because it was just for reaction fishing? No idea.
I think him reaching the conclusion on you being scum because he thinks one out of you three of ruxxar/HF/Calix is scum is pretty pants-on-head. Like this assertion is so blatant that I don't think he'd do it as scum, it draws too much attention. It's just that he tried to logic and then failed to consider whether you and Calix are both just town and you had a moment where you waffled on the read or whatever.
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Oh wbg is here and talking about how town Calix and hf are. 🤮
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