EPTOn May 22 2019 17:27 wherebugsgo wrote:
omg I actually mistyped you're/your I am officially a dumbass
omg I actually mistyped you're/your I am officially a dumbass
Your dead too me.
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Your dead too me. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
Prior to last page I've been mulling VE & Artanis. That scumteam actually makes perfect sense for this game, and if VE is scum with iGrok it's almost actually a good thing we didn't kill iGrok yesterday because it would have been less obvious to me that VE was more than happy to switch off him for complete BS reasons. Like can you tell me why VE, who has basically been saying he's completely fine with lynching iGrok all game (essentially his only consistent scum read) would switch to one of his townreads (ruxxar) and someone he claimed to reach the exact opposite conclusion as me, and fought me over for a good half the day, at the last minute, with basically no resistance whatsoever? Like I'm trying to consider why town VE would ever do that and I just can't. He was even berating me for supposedly not being on any of the leading wagons. Then, when he's on the leading wagon and he can just off iGrok, his ONLY SCUM READ, he sheeps me on someone he reached the exact opposite conclusion on?? Like the only reason he cited was that there's been resistance to my lynch of choice. That was enough to throw away his townread? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
I think I might have to relent on calix being mafia. Don't think the igrok progression looks good. Might also explain why a mafia igrok has to arbitrarily say one of me or calix is mafia with bad reasons and why he essentially scum reads her for bad points - because it's not a natural scum read. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 22 2019 18:06 Holyflare wrote: I don't think VE's deadline looks as bad as you think it does. You essentially bullied him to voting with you. Seems natural progression to me. Your point is largely meta that you don't think he'd normally do that and I don't have that meta so can only look at what I see at face value. I think I might have to relent on calix being mafia. Don't think the igrok progression looks good. Might also explain why a mafia igrok has to arbitrarily say one of me or calix is mafia with bad reasons and why he essentially scum reads her for bad points - because it's not a natural scum read. I can agree to disagree on the bullying but not the naturalness of it. Forget the meta for a second here. 1. All day he says my main target, ruxxar, is a townread. Says he reached opposite conclusions on ruxxar/disfo (so he scumreads disfo-I offered both of these targets as consolidation options but VE never really bothered with disfo, why? also said I was basically freaking out about him not sheeping me but I presented those choices fairly transparently, if he disagreed he could've just tried to convince me to kill disfo instead) 2. EOD He already was on the leading wagon, for a scumread, iGrok. Then he's actually the FIRST one to get cold feet. It's not like someone else moved and then he was like "oh clearly iGrok is not happening, time to jump ship" it was more like "oh bugs is here and he said he's confused why I'm not here buddying, guess I should just throw away two of my reads and buddy him" this is sort of the only post in that series I actually half liked: On May 22 2019 08:40 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh I'm nervous. But I've also got you in here screaming about wanting to lynch me no matter what happens so what the fuck does changing votes do for anything? I have had a townread on Ruxxar all game and you're asking me to change my vote AGAIN now that we've actually decided on someone YOU JUST SAID YOU'RE RELATIVELY OKAY WITH DYING....like I just don't know what you need man, you're tilted and there's nothing WE can do to bring you back. After this phase just leave and come back D2 (or not HEHEHE) refreshed and NOT titled to shit. idk, he even admitted we had plenty of time left and could've actually had a discussion on it but he just didn't want to I suppose? Maybe I came off too strong, which is odd because I feel like VE has prickled at me far more than I have in reverse. anyway, the one post I just could not get over, particularly in context of a whole bunch of other things that I've noticed that VE has just gotten wrong, was this one: On May 21 2019 06:19 VisceraEyes wrote: Nah I'm fine with ruX. I picked up reading after his initial post (which I initially townread him for) and he checked like all my townie marks in the first few posts after. I don't want to lynch ruX. Among the things I found were: Annoyance at being ignored. Annoyance with lurkers. Fluid reads that change as people post. Bringing up people others aren't looking at. Among other more nuanced things I look for. Rux not on my radar today. The first two points are completely unsupported, the 3rd is subjective/VE didn't really provide evidence for this and the 4th I'll concede. I called VE out on this, like at least twice, and never got complete responses. VE only responded on the "annoyance with lurkers" was mentioned and that was apparently a misread on his part. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 22 2019 18:34 Koshi wrote: Basically you are scumreading VE for making a correct read but supporting your terrible read after hijacking the thread and being a whiny little bitch pushing Ruxxar lynch relentlessly. yes. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
Jockmcplop Town: Holyflare Conversion Koshi Townish: Raynpelikoneet Null: iGrok wherebugsgo Scummish: Calix VisceraEyes Lynch with fire: The Cobbler AMA. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
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Calix
3379 Posts
On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder. K but why do you have Koshi and WBG in the wrong place? Koshi also scum-read BC but didn't bother moving his vote when iGrok [town-read] was the leading train to make BC [someone he at least scum-reads] a viable wagon, choosing instead to stay on me after it became really unlikely I would die. Fail to see how you read his near-EOD posts and conclude 'town'. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
Don't really get your reads. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 22 2019 19:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Calix and VE liking the BC case and then never actually moving their vote when they didn't seem convinced by the leading wagons makes my boner to lynch all of them that much harder. Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance Two things I’d like you to explain: 1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum? 2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC 3. Where is disformation? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On May 22 2019 19:26 Calix wrote: K but why do you have Koshi and WBG in the wrong place? Koshi also scum-read BC but didn't bother moving his vote when iGrok [town-read] was the leading train to make BC [someone he at least scum-reads] a viable wagon, choosing instead to stay on me after it became really unlikely I would die. Fail to see how you read his near-EOD posts and conclude 'town'. Koshi's energy is something I've found he really struggles to emulate as scum. I don't think the amount of effort he's put into this game is within his scum range. On May 22 2019 19:28 Calix wrote: Also if you think VE and I are mafia then shouldn't iGrok be higher up on your list since VE and I both voted for him over BC? Don't really get your reads. It might be if you guys actually stayed on iGrok, but you both switched to RuX in the end. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote: Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance Two things I’d like you to explain: 1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum? 2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC 3. Where is disformation? Not 2 hours straight today, don't have the time. Will check in on my phone from time to time. 1. I don't think he believed that VE would ever take off with his thread presence. Can you quote the second thing? 2. I'm talking about when I cased BC. Both of them said they liked the case, and neither seemed that convinced that they wanted to lynch iGrok. It was a moment where no one was really sure who they wanted to lynch. 3. Forgot about him. I guess he's townish since he wants to lynch the Cobbler with me but that's about all I remember. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
Obviously hypothetical but I don't think your theory makes sense and it's not just cos I'm in it. Personally I thought EOD felt pretty clean myself. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 21 2019 21:45 VisceraEyes wrote: OMG BC is voting for me and I jsut bet you he never did open my filter. That means he's voting for me on YOUR behalf bugs. Not that that's a problem for me. Just thought I'd mention it because while you think I'm scum I might as well act like scum. I do intend to help this game, I said I'd sheep. I'll help with flip information, it's real easy. Don't lynch me over people who aren't playing that's fucking stupid and retarded. Why are you even considering that shit? This one artanis | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On May 22 2019 19:32 wherebugsgo wrote: Ah you’re here for only two hours right? So this is my only chance Two things I’d like you to explain: 1. If BC and VE are scum why was BC willing to help me push VE? And why would VE say that BC was buddying me/not actually believing in the case on VE himself if they’re both scum? 2. Why would either Calix or VE vote BC at EOD when igrok reached the lead? They seemed far more into killing iGrok than BC 3. Where is disformation? i am here. though tired and at work. On May 22 2019 19:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Confirmed town: Jockmcplop Town: Holyflare Conversion Koshi Townish: Raynpelikoneet Null: iGrok wherebugsgo Scummish: Calix VisceraEyes Lynch with fire: The Cobbler AMA. bc: totes scum calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif* not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.- | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On May 22 2019 19:54 disformation wrote: bleh. -.- i am here. though tired and at work. bc: totes scum calix, ve: totes scum for saying they like the case but refusing to vote disfo: only guy to vote totes scum and only other guy to at least try to get ppl to vote bc: *insert tumbleweed gif* not sure if that makes you scum, but I feel kinda insulted -.- rofl you have the best callouts this game | ||
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