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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 06:29 GMT
#6283
On March 09 2019 15:23 Ace wrote:
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On March 09 2019 14:14 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:52 Ace wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:33 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On March 09 2019 11:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Day One Final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar

EoD1 votes with conrfirmed flips and claims so ya BC wasted his vote on a throwaway on iamp and town was scattered all over the place on the two lynch wagons Day 1. Ace,Pandain,MZ, Chezinu, and Onegu wasted their votes Day 1. might have a scum within those throw away votes since town was so scattered it's a safe play to do that.

Both wagons were town. I don't think just from the votes you can make any inference about where the scum are.

Scum know who HF is. If he's one of them it doesn't really matter who the mayor is between him and Palmar to scum because a townie gets lynched either way. If he's town it doesn't matter either but scum would have to take him at his word that he wants to lynch Palmar. Even if he did follow through on the BH lynch that's also a townie.

Throwaway votes is usually scum indicating though in a TvT wagon though but I think scum is also within those 2 wagons since it's easy to blend in when it's TvT. Ya fair play about HF I wish we had a cop check on him >.<



I'm thinking a cop has investigated HF by now and hasn't gotten a scum result so feels no need to claim.

What kind of a reasonning is this? We had 2 cop roles flipped already. Is this the only reason you're not pushing HF anymore?


That and BC flip but that means shit now

on the contrary, it's pretty important 'cause I don't believe you believed HF was town because you thought a third cop checked them
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 06:31 GMT
#6284
well, Pandain is probably town. Mafia dayvig would be way too OP
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 06:39 GMT
#6286
On March 09 2019 15:34 Ace wrote:
It's pretty obvious I reversed my read on HF with BC flip. And we never pushed a case on HF together. Although I thought BC was Town we weren't tag teaming HF. Nice narrative tho 😁

happy you like it just for the record, I don't think you 2 pushing HF makes you partners, what I think is your play thus far has followed a clearcut plan, indicative of scum
talk to me about who you think is scum now? Gonna filter Meapeak next, I remember hating something about him during EON2
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 06:39 GMT
#6287
oh, and ##Vote Ace
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 06:49 GMT
#6291
On March 04 2019 09:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On March 04 2019 08:25 darthfoley wrote:
Interested on MeapZiph's take on iamp after the last 30 pages.

@Meap are you still seeing red?

On March 03 2019 16:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:50 Chezinu wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:42 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:35 Chezinu wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 15:14 Chezinu wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 03 2019 07:56 Grackaroni wrote:
[quote]
You just don't have the patience to wait until 11:11 PM EST

I don't understand why you don't post now. You're very obviously reading along with the thread.


Meapak_Ziphh!!!!


COLOR ME THIS!!! WHAT COLOR AM I?!??!??!

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After your response, I am going to unleash analysis based on your response... so type your words wisely.. or speech to text your words wisely if that's how you rolls... or role...

Brown Chez, always brown.


A wise choice. Well you see. I didn't quite like your coloring skills earlier. You paint my greens and blues red!!!

If you said I was red, then you would explain your coloring skills to assume I'm wrong on my reads.. If you went green, then you would insult my own coloring skills. With brown, you have passed.

Ahh Chez, I may not be as active as I once was but I learned many years ago not to paint you red or green. You are brown and embody it every game. I'm saddened to know that we disagree on the colors of others though. I feel comfortable with some of what I've colored but others I am not so sure of. Who in particular do you you think I've gotten wrong so far?


The iamp and HF. Thought you were dissing me

It's gonna be hard to get me to budge on iamp, his level of effort while still being semi active in the thread just smells like someone who is trying to active lurk his way into escaping attention. He's a solid red for me right now.

I have HF as green, mostly because I thought the way he came after me during the whole conversion discussion was from a townie mindset. And he brought up some good points about Oats which I hadn't fully considered until he mentioned it. Do you color him red?


Not as strongly as I was earlier, I just finished reading everyone's filter which took me a solid 6ish hours so I'm going to take a quick break and clear my head. In the mean time y'all can feel free to check out my notes I created. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JaeEcpko74-Vdm8iN3r1TWsKBW8HITOXUhutGH3bSY8/edit?usp=sharing
How you interpret the information there is up to you but I'm just giving out the raw data. Later tonight I'll compile some thoughts based off of that but I'm kinda burnt out now

The one thing I know for sure is that I need someone to vigi the shit out of Blazinghand and possibly Pandain as well.

has this be useful? Did you help you make reads? If yes, how?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 06:50 GMT
#6292
Did it*
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 06:56 GMT
#6294
On March 09 2019 15:45 Jockmcplop wrote:
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On March 08 2019 18:54 Jockmcplop wrote:
The Case


For Ace



Being scum


Or dumb

Its incredibly easy for anyone to see that ace is scum. He only has a 4 page filter and most of it is literally useless, apart from one obvious wagon that he can sink all of his reasonable looking posts into.

1: 1 word answers and anti discussion posting

The following is a list of just a few the times Ace simply quotes something questionable and puts a single word there or something obviously designed to avoid people coming back to him and asking questions about it.
Its effective, because no=one ever does that and he gets away with artificially inflating his post count for basically doing nothing.

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On March 05 2019 06:51 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:37 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:22 Koshi wrote:
On March 05 2019 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
na I need a confirmation too many rambos on this site who will shot vivax day 1 and waste are shit or something

Iamp is advocating to lynch bh constantly. It is our best bet.

Palmar tje fucker will shoot sentinel because palmar might be mafia.

Holyflare will shoot Palmar because town!HF is not really top tier and he doesnt know better.


Still no comprendo. Me no speak English.

He wants you to pad his ego.


Hey ace why koshi?


Random vote. Got a prod that I didn't have a vote on anyone. I'll change if Im around before EOD.


discussion killer here.

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On March 05 2019 08:49 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 08:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Wait. I go to fucking work then sleep and come back to this clusterfuck? Why for the love of god are we lynching Palmar of all fucking people. You may hate his fucking guts right now but of all the "vet" or big name players in this game hes actually put in more effort than anyone fucking else.

Do you disagree with his reads? Likely. Do I? On some of them yes. But the guy is clearly playing for the town. Have any of you guys played with him? or remember games with him? He does this shit consistently with town. He polarizes everyone in the game for or against him to get reads / generate discussion. Sometimes it may just be because hes being an asshole or believes hes better than you.

So no I am not down for lynching him -_-


If you were going to off an old school player at this point just to do it you'd be better served with offing Me, Ace, BH, or MZ tbh. We all have done basically nothing in comparison.

We as an entire group have literally designed a day that lets mafia just slide by and do sweet fuck all and based on thread sentiment could get away with it for way way way too long. Sure you could after the fact try and harass suspects for reasons but basically everyone can regurgitate the same horseshit and you get borderline nothing.

So. HF get the fuck off Palmar. You may hate his fucking guts / think hes the worlds shittiest player but the guy is clearly attempting to help the town at this point and has done far more to push that then most in this game.


How about instead we look into this pool.

Onegu
Why?
1) Says he will be try hard. Is clearly not thus is not living up to what he said he would attempt.
2) Reads currently given have no substance to them
3) Clearly skirting by the activity requirements
4) Basically just has posts with 0 content


Iamperfection

I have already brought him up in my last analysis post. Basically it is very similar however to expand on it.

On March 04 2019 05:40 iamperfection wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:26 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
My response is more or less going to be impacted by your response to my question.

i probably wont give my full reads until tomorrow.

i think your probably town though cause i think your confused by my play and are trying to figure out my alignment


Since I have been waiting now for awhile to see what reads he has. Let me sum it up for you. He hasn't posted any of value. Why? Because he hasnt posted any reasonable reasons.
He has also asked for what? 3 vig shots now on players
Someone like this whos played as long as he had know better. This isn't behaviour IMO of a townie. Its scum.



This post reeks. Why would you pop up near EOD to post this? You even segregated players and faked outrage. Heavy FoS here.


Asks the question but isn't there to answer it. No detail just an accusation. Doesn't bring it up again.

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On March 05 2019 10:28 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:24 Damdred wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote:
Well that was terrible.

@Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette.


There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow.

Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar.

side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop.


Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around.


What is this? Even I know hf stuck to his guns he wan ted to lynch palm for a long time no?


Him wanting to lynch Palmar =/= good reason to switch.


Again there's nothing useful here just poking holes in posts.


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On March 05 2019 10:28 Ace wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:24 Holyflare wrote:
On March 05 2019 10:21 Ace wrote:
Well that was terrible.

@Trfel: Really wish you claimed :'(. GG tho dude/dudette.


There are no mafia doctors so vigis can shoot Holyflare at will. If he somehow does not die tonight he is an auto-lynch tomorrow.

Earlier in the thread when I was talking to HF and Wiggles, I was alluding to the fact that Hf or Palmar have to stick to their plan on the lynch (Sentinel). It would take a very convincing reason to lynch someone else. For all his talk, Palmar never came across as a strong scum read. HF lynching him instead of Sentinel or even BH means he has to die. He did not stick to his guns and did not have good reason to lynch Palmar.

side note:Would have been funny (and rage inducing) if Trfel flipped Cop and Palmar flipped back up Cop.


Anyway, we kill HF asap. No fucking around.



Good one voting the guy into mayorship that was saying he was sticking to his plan there, Ace.

Holyflare (15): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_


Thanks. Add some more colors to my name. I love variety.


Nothing post

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On March 07 2019 13:43 Ace wrote:
On March 06 2019 17:19 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 06 2019 10:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On March 05 2019 07:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
I've been keeping up but not posting.
Shouldn't trfel be here defending himself if he's scum instead of that 'take it or leave it' bullshit?


On March 05 2019 07:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm voting trfel because so many people have reads on him and I'm not sure what's going on with BH at all.

Soo post one suggests that you think trfel is town and then you decide to vote for him as scum bc "you don't know whats going on with BC"

HMMMMMM

Also you're one of those HF lurker voters...

On March 05 2019 18:37 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 05 2019 18:29 rsoultin wrote:
i'm done with you acro. go back to something interesting, if you can manage it. calling your maybes in your reads list bad was a good start

@jock uhhuh...yeah i don't get how you read this game and claim that hf didn't have a scumread on palmar that he made overwhelmingly clear multiple times including his intention to use the mayor lynch to vote him. if your uncommitted to any pov is your way of saying he's scum i guess that makes some sense but it's a lot of words just to nullread someone


At one point he said he wasn't going to lynch palmar and was just using the platform to find out who would go for it. The he said that was a lie.
This is the post that is making me question his motives and how genuine his palmar read was.

This is literally hours after the flip dude. What about him literally killing palmar is making you question his motives. Jock you've waffled so many times on HF in the last 24 hours I can't help but feel like you're setting yourself up for either side of an HF lynch and you're just waiting to see which way the thread goes.

You also ask a lot of questions and push very few reads. You have only one substantial post detailing who you think is scum and have done nothing to advance your case... my goodness we're gonna have quite the docket of scum once I'm done sifting through the HF voters.



Yeah but this is a stupid case, and heavily cherry picked. Unfortunately you accidentally cherry picked the part that shows exactly why I did what I did.
I'm sure you'll be gone for a week or whatever now though so you just left this here like a fart before you left. Great job.

Is there anything about my explanation for my questioning of hf yesterday that doesn't make sense?
I had him as a townread and he's probably the most influential guy in the game at the moment. The way he went for the will I/won't I that you quoted here with Palmar and then explained it as just trying to have a laugh and inject fun into the thread (which is his explanation for all his anti-town actions) was something that got me thinking...

So given that during the night phase I have nothing pressing to take care of I thought I'd try and get more information to try and see where he's coming from (this is also why I'm didn't make alot of reads yesterday - no-one's listening to me anyway so it wouldn't help with town decision making either).

You guys read each other and make cases based off years of meta knowledge (which probably explains this weakass shit I wake up to), I only have people's actual posts to go off, and HF's were something I found a little weird. He is by no means the most suspicious guy in the game to me, but he's the most important at the moment so I don't want to be caught with my pants down accidentally townreading him.

Same goes for rsoultin. My thinking was exactly the same - although as the day went on it became clear that no-one's really paying her any attention so I dropped it.

When it comes to the trfel vote I was mostly concerned with making sure acro didn't get voted out as he's definitely town and useful. I wanted to get on a wagon and BH seemed like an interesting guy to keep around which was enough to go on for what was basically a coinflip.


yikes


On March 06 2019 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
The people voting me are on the biggest cop out lynch of 2019. I bet they're the same people that whined that BH didn't get shot too.

What benefit does my flip bring other than drawing you closer to end game? BH at least gives you the information about wagons. I'm also pumping out content comparatively to BH who is just sitting there with the most information in the game about his wagon and instead he's still just repeating to kill him. You may not agree with what I'm writing but that's your choice.

You can look at MZ's spreadsheet to see how stupid lynching palmar would have been if I was mafia. I'm not stupid as mafia, I demand thread consensus and people town reading me because it's the path of least resistance.

I will look into you Holyflare voters and if I see that you complained that BH isn't dead I will know your motivation about lynching me is completely feigned.


R.O.F.L.


That second bolded though. Explain. Really :D. I don't see how a person who mostly wanted to kill himself would reveal more information on someone with strong opinions and an actual action we can tie to them.

On March 06 2019 17:29 Holyflare wrote:
On March 06 2019 17:28 Mocsta wrote:
Hf

Some point this cycle. Preferably after ace responds. I want ur take on my ace case


I don't agree with it. Why would someone fabled for being so good at mafia make such blatantly false accusations? If he doesn't come up with some read based on those posts then yeah, probably mafia.


You definitely did not read Mocsta's post then. How many accusations did I make, to whom?, and how would you know they are false?


3 nothing posts in one.


1: no scumhunting

Ace has done no scumhunting. You can't call jumping on the obvious hf wagon and pushing that one kill scumhunting, it isn't, its hiding while posting.
In sea of thousands of 'lynch hf' posts its hard to even notice ace's posts. Can anyone remember any of them specifically? Its a camouflage.

Over the course of the entire game, he has accused 3 people of being scum.
HF: All of his posts that contain any detail at all are about hf. Most of them add nothing new to the discussion and just hang there like little grapes in a big ol basket of fruit.

Myself: He says I'm an obvious vigi shoot (I was voting to lynch him at the time). That's all

BC: Calls him scumcobbler at one point and posts a single sentence after a post he didn't like.

Its fair to say that there's no actual content here, but importantly the hf stuff gives the illusion of content, but its all just nothing.

3: Staying silent instead of defending himself

Ace ha been accused of being scum by multiple people on multiple occasions, and the only one time he has remotely defended himself was to say that he doesn't use meta in his play.
Otherwise he's perfectly happy to stay silent.
If he's town why doesn't he want people to know he's town?

Why is he acting so weird and only putting out the most basic timewasting posts?

Because he's in the mafia.





EBWOP the small text is meant to say 'or I'm dumb'.
No disrespect intended ace.

Anyway this all still stands imo.

##vote ace

fighting the right battle
TBH I think point 3 of your case is pretty bad, on the contrary scum tends to defend themselves too much. Point 1 is a series of posts that are not AI by themselves except that "lynch Palmar =/= good reason to swithc" which I agree was pretty bad.
Point 2 is basically my case and tha'ts what makes Ace scum
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 06:57 GMT
#6295
On March 09 2019 15:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 09 2019 15:31 Rels wrote:
well, Pandain is probably town. Mafia dayvig would be way too OP

Why? They have to shoot in thread I assume. Doesn’t seem that op to me

'cause they can autowin anytime they reach LYLO with it
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 07:02 GMT
#6296
On March 09 2019 15:47 Ace wrote:
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On March 09 2019 15:39 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2019 15:34 Ace wrote:
It's pretty obvious I reversed my read on HF with BC flip. And we never pushed a case on HF together. Although I thought BC was Town we weren't tag teaming HF. Nice narrative tho 😁

happy you like it just for the record, I don't think you 2 pushing HF makes you partners, what I think is your play thus far has followed a clearcut plan, indicative of scum
talk to me about who you think is scum now? Gonna filter Meapeak next, I remember hating something about him during EON2


I have Jock + Wiggles as my top 2 suspects.

As for your idea of a plan - of course there was. I posted what I was doing on Day 1 😁. Should also check my post a few hours before EoD 2. Once today came with no guilty investigation on HF I was thinking he's probably innocent. BCs flip just made it a much stronger stance. I was wrong on their alignments Day 2 and I thought it was clear I wasn't going after HF at all anymore. I even said I may have been tunneling him and looking for confirmation bias in his posts.

Their filters are next after Meapak.

Can you quote the post you're referrencing with "I posted what I was doing on D1" ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 07:22 GMT
#6298
Meapak has made a lot of small attacks against a lot of players, I don't know if I like it, it's not strong but it feels a little bit opportunist
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 07:28 GMT
#6299
On March 09 2019 16:13 Ace wrote:
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On March 04 2019 06:06 Ace wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:02 Rels wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:01 Ace wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:58 Rels wrote:
I don't care who becomes mayor as long as he promises to follow the town consensus for his lynch. I voted rsoul but I'll switch to whoever is the leading vote near deadline if they make that promise


Town consensus is influenced by scum posts. Mayor shouldn't follow it to the tee. Mayor should be someone with their own ideas about who is likely scum while considering "the town's" opinions. We want a leader not a sheep 😁

was your mayor plan a bait?


No. I wanted an issue to force strong opinions to hold players to. I just picked two players at random who didn't post a lot at the time.

Later on the HF/Palmar runs served that idea even better. Both seem headstrong, have the same "plan", and from what I can read command some sheep in this game. As a starting point I think that's pretty good.


You asked me this Day 1

thanks, I thought you were talking about this but it was in D2:
On March 07 2019 12:06 Ace wrote:
Outside of this, he killed Palmar. The entire reason behind my Day 1 post was to tie any mayor candidate to their lynch choice. It's not just that he didn't lynch Sentinel - if he had justifiable reasons then so be it. But he lynched Palmar and his reasoning rests on because he thought he was scum.

Since HF has said for a long time he'll lynch Palmar, I don't believe you really thought that, I think it was a fake justification to have an easy way of playing and get HF lynched.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 07:33 GMT
#6300
oh yeah I remember what I hated about MZ EOD2, I don't remember who bought it up but someone did earlier. When he came back, the lynch was always gonna be HF or BH, and he said he had a HF townread and a BH nullread; but he didn't want to commit to one of the wagon, repeating he "wanted to lynch scum". That screams someone knowing the vote is TvT and not wanting to be a part of it.

Like this post represents everything I'm talking about:
On March 08 2019 08:35 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On March 08 2019 08:19 Blazinghand wrote:
TBH I'd lynch either of those guys tho

I'm voting for scum. I have repeatedly given my reasons for not wanting to lynch HF and I have no idea which way to read you, people martyr both as town and scum and your play since then has been 50/50. If the jubjubs are gonna lynch between you and HF I honestly don't care which of you goes. My vote however is gonna be on the people I'm very confident are scum.

????

Then he got super defensive when people attacked him for it.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 07:45 GMT
#6302
On March 09 2019 16:43 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 16:28 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2019 16:13 Ace wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:06 Ace wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:02 Rels wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:01 Ace wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:58 Rels wrote:
I don't care who becomes mayor as long as he promises to follow the town consensus for his lynch. I voted rsoul but I'll switch to whoever is the leading vote near deadline if they make that promise


Town consensus is influenced by scum posts. Mayor shouldn't follow it to the tee. Mayor should be someone with their own ideas about who is likely scum while considering "the town's" opinions. We want a leader not a sheep 😁

was your mayor plan a bait?


No. I wanted an issue to force strong opinions to hold players to. I just picked two players at random who didn't post a lot at the time.

Later on the HF/Palmar runs served that idea even better. Both seem headstrong, have the same "plan", and from what I can read command some sheep in this game. As a starting point I think that's pretty good.


You asked me this Day 1

thanks, I thought you were talking about this but it was in D2:
On March 07 2019 12:06 Ace wrote:
Outside of this, he killed Palmar. The entire reason behind my Day 1 post was to tie any mayor candidate to their lynch choice. It's not just that he didn't lynch Sentinel - if he had justifiable reasons then so be it. But he lynched Palmar and his reasoning rests on because he thought he was scum.

Since HF has said for a long time he'll lynch Palmar, I don't believe you really thought that, I think it was a fake justification to have an easy way of playing and get HF lynched.


Pretty much the same thing reiterated. I think you're misunderstanding what I was saying. I really wasn't concerned with him repeatedly stating he wanted to lynch Palmar. It was the why. I didn't believe he had any actual reason. But again, the beginning of this day shows I reversed my read on him.

As for the cop thing I don't know what you meant by 3rd cop.

We have already 2 cops being flipped, so we would need to have a 3rd cop for your "I think HF is town because if he was scum a cop would have claimed a red check on him" to work
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 07:55 GMT
#6306
Jock is always town if he's really a newbie. If he's playing that well as a scum he's lying about this game being his first. Interacting with people, making cases, committing reads in the HF vs BH lynch ... the bad thing is that he's using a lot of easy / bad reasonning to scumread people, but as it's his first game it's totally normal.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 07:56 GMT
#6307
On March 09 2019 16:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On March 09 2019 15:57 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2019 15:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 09 2019 15:31 Rels wrote:
well, Pandain is probably town. Mafia dayvig would be way too OP

Why? They have to shoot in thread I assume. Doesn’t seem that op to me

'cause they can autowin anytime they reach LYLO with it

maybe it cant be shot during lylo

maybe. That's a good point
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 07:58 GMT
#6308
On March 09 2019 16:51 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2019 16:45 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2019 16:43 Ace wrote:
On March 09 2019 16:28 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2019 16:13 Ace wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:06 Ace wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:02 Rels wrote:
On March 04 2019 06:01 Ace wrote:
On March 04 2019 05:58 Rels wrote:
I don't care who becomes mayor as long as he promises to follow the town consensus for his lynch. I voted rsoul but I'll switch to whoever is the leading vote near deadline if they make that promise


Town consensus is influenced by scum posts. Mayor shouldn't follow it to the tee. Mayor should be someone with their own ideas about who is likely scum while considering "the town's" opinions. We want a leader not a sheep 😁

was your mayor plan a bait?


No. I wanted an issue to force strong opinions to hold players to. I just picked two players at random who didn't post a lot at the time.

Later on the HF/Palmar runs served that idea even better. Both seem headstrong, have the same "plan", and from what I can read command some sheep in this game. As a starting point I think that's pretty good.


You asked me this Day 1

thanks, I thought you were talking about this but it was in D2:
On March 07 2019 12:06 Ace wrote:
Outside of this, he killed Palmar. The entire reason behind my Day 1 post was to tie any mayor candidate to their lynch choice. It's not just that he didn't lynch Sentinel - if he had justifiable reasons then so be it. But he lynched Palmar and his reasoning rests on because he thought he was scum.

Since HF has said for a long time he'll lynch Palmar, I don't believe you really thought that, I think it was a fake justification to have an easy way of playing and get HF lynched.


Pretty much the same thing reiterated. I think you're misunderstanding what I was saying. I really wasn't concerned with him repeatedly stating he wanted to lynch Palmar. It was the why. I didn't believe he had any actual reason. But again, the beginning of this day shows I reversed my read on him.

As for the cop thing I don't know what you meant by 3rd cop.

We have already 2 cops being flipped, so we would need to have a 3rd cop for your "I think HF is town because if he was scum a cop would have claimed a red check on him" to work


Oh you're counting the backup cop. I wasn't. I don't think those are the only two investigation roles in the game.

by themselves sure, but with all the vigs it's unlikely we have another full cop
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 09 2019 08:01 GMT
#6309
well Wiggles' filter will have to wait for tomorrow, getting too sleepy to continue ... see you tomorrow
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 03:42 GMT
#6511
On March 09 2019 21:55 Onegu wrote:
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On March 09 2019 13:50 Rels wrote:
On March 09 2019 09:02 Dandel Ion wrote:
rsoultin, the Vanilla Townie has been killed.
Damdred, the Vanilla Townie has been killed.
BloodyC0bbler, the Mafia Roleblocker has been killed.
WaveofShadow, the Vanilla Townie has been killed.
raynpelikoneet, the Vanilla Townie has been killed.

Yeah for the scum death! But there goes my town circle

And lol @ 3 townies hard townreading HF + 1 scum hard pushing HF dying. HF is town and scum are trying to ML him again



Rels fucking help me.

Like this yes 100%

And he shot him after this.

The fucking cherry on top is the Ace claim with pandain in it.

What Ace claim?

Role speculation aside, scum don't want to be under scrutiny. I don't think scum shoots HF when he's being finally being townread by everyone. Yesterday was a perfect day for him to shoot if he really was a dayvig scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 03:48 GMT
#6512
On March 10 2019 03:46 sicklucker wrote:
Real talk chez might be a better lynch tonight. While host could have given a 3 town list its not likely. The other 2 are town alot of the time and we can have are role investigative role check pain if we have one. Ace is scum but chez is near poe scum ans unreadable.

Acro claimed lurker vig, he didn't give more details but if he's telling the truth, it's likely his targets were chosen by some alignment agnostic rule, like "the 3 players that have the less posts" or something like that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 10 2019 03:50 GMT
#6513
On March 10 2019 06:04 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2019 05:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Acro, are you able to share the details of your role?

Is it based on a list of lurkers that you're just given, or were you told the criteria for inclusion on the list?

Yeah, sure. I had a half-baked plan of making ppl think I had more bullets and got weird lists, to make scum RB and shoot me, but messed it up already and their RB is dead.

I had 1 bullet and could shoot anyone who didn't vote it had less then 5 posts during the day. I whined to the hosts that I couldn't use it n1 as nobody met the requirements, but n2 it was more useful. Judging by the last post I should have shot the brown. I haven't gotten to why yet, tho :p

I feel smart
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