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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 08 2019 02:57 GMT
#5781
On March 08 2019 11:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Man people really sucking the fun out of this game.
yeah, the worst part about LS is that its Ace who started calling HF holyfield like 48hrs ago
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 08 2019 03:03 GMT
#5782
Oh it was Ace who started it....... I honestly forgot about that.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 08 2019 03:04 GMT
#5783
Anyways my town circle is Me,Rels,Tina, Mocsta, Wave, and Oats atm. Seems a bit small though to solve the game.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2019 03:05 GMT
#5784
On March 08 2019 11:01 LightningStrike wrote:
First off I out of class and saw the flip and figured he would flip town given how EoD played out and secondly
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On March 08 2019 10:41 kitaman27 wrote:
On March 08 2019 10:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
No but maybe somebody will bite off his ear.


[image loading]

This post is pure bullshit by host. He shouldn't of posted that all.

Do you guys understand who that is?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2019 03:06 GMT
#5785
Okay kita explained it, top 5 moment in the game though. I wanna say I’ve never laughed this much in a game before
No gg, No skill.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9651 Posts
March 08 2019 03:10 GMT
#5786
On March 08 2019 07:45 Holyflare wrote:
Guess I'll get one with my reads thing:

Jockmcplop

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On March 04 2019 22:23 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 04 2019 22:17 Mocsta wrote:
hmmm. Im not keen on my unvote. I didnt have a problem with oats, and hes now 2nd wagon.

acro - you were iffy on trfel. you still prefer oats > trfel?


I don't have a read on trfel. I can probably be convinced to switch if there's a good reason. I really don't like the idea of lynching acrofales.


No read on Trfel

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On March 05 2019 07:36 Jockmcplop wrote:
I've been keeping up but not posting.
Shouldn't trfel be here defending himself if he's scum instead of that 'take it or leave it' bullshit?


Essentially gives a reason for Trfel not to be scum

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On March 05 2019 07:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm voting trfel because so many people have reads on him and I'm not sure what's going on with BH at all.


This vote doesn't make sense in the slightest. He doesn't have a read on Trfel, says a reason for him not to be mafia and votes Trfel because other people have reads on him.

Town reads me at some point.
No mention of BH
No mention of BH
No mention of BH

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When it comes to the trfel vote I was mostly concerned with making sure acro didn't get voted out as he's definitely town and useful. I wanted to get on a wagon and BH seemed like an interesting guy to keep around which was enough to go on for what was basically a coinflip.


BH was kept alive because he was interesting but BH never featured in any reads list he posted.

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On March 06 2019 18:34 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 06 2019 18:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 06 2019 17:24 Holyflare wrote:
BH who is just sitting there with the most information in the game about his wagon and instead he's still just repeating to kill him.


A) I actually have not asked to be lynched today
B) the only extra information I have is that I'm town, and presumably people fall into two categories:

1) people who think I am town and so have just as much information as I do
2) people who think I am scum, and i'm not sure i'd convince such people that I have "more information" than them just by asserting I am town


Are you going to start engaging properly with the game now?
FWIW I think you're town.
Do you have any reads other than hf? What's your thinking on ace?


Thinks BH is town with nothing in between?

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On March 07 2019 18:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 07 2019 18:07 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 07 2019 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
BH you have an uncanny knack to sound disingenuous with everything you write. How do you do it?


A few days ago I gave up on trying to sound town and just write what I want to write. It's a lot of fun!


Why were you trying to sound town?

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On March 07 2019 18:11 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 07 2019 18:10 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 07 2019 18:07 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 07 2019 18:07 Blazinghand wrote:
On March 07 2019 18:04 Holyflare wrote:
BH you have an uncanny knack to sound disingenuous with everything you write. How do you do it?


A few days ago I gave up on trying to sound town and just write what I want to write. It's a lot of fun!


Why were you trying to sound town?


I'm always trying to sound town. If you're scum, you do it so you don't get lynched, which allows you to win the game. If you're town, you do it so you don't get lynched, which allows you to win the game, and also so you can build cred and convince other townies to vote the scum that you find. At all times you should focus, in addition to hunting scum, on looking town, regardless of alignment.


So why did you stop trying to sound town?

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On March 07 2019 18:22 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 07 2019 18:18 Blazinghand wrote:
On top of all that, After spending 24 hours D1 and all of N1 trying to get lynched and shot, it didn't happen. And if it won't happen when I'm actively trying to make it happen, it's not happening. So, there's really no reason to avoid saying things that might get misunderstood and lead people to think I'm scum. who cares? None of you are going to pull together a group big enough that it's going to lynch me anyways. So... I'm free. I can post what I want. I don't have to stop and think about what will build cred, because I have none. I don't have to carefully maneuver to avoid scum trapping me into getting lynched, because as we've seen, it's impossible to lynch me. I've transcended this game. I am beyond suspicion. People just don't want to lynch me, so why should I defend myself? Why should I worry about my appearance, or any pressure anyone puts on me? Feh. I'll analyze what I want to analyze and do what I want, and see if I can find some scum. I'm cursed to play out this game for my hubris, trapped, never lynched, vigied, or nked, no matter what I try. So... I might as well play, and fuck caring about what I look like


This is kind of what I was getting at.
That would be a ballsy play to make as scum particularly.


Questions BH, says it's a ballsy play as scum and then:

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On March 07 2019 22:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm leaning heavily towards a scum read on BH right now. The more he posts the more scummy his motivations seem to be. His attacks on hf look as if he has made them up on the spot in an effort to try and paint hf as mafia, rather than coming to natural conclusions about hf from available evidence.

The best example of this is the following post:

On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?

Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.

In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea

Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me


This is pure speculation and I like how creative it is, but it is not evidence.

He then refers back to this as 'compelling' a few posts later, but as we can see it isn't compelling its a rather badly shoehorned piece of fiction, designed to create an mirage.

On March 06 2019 18:31 Blazinghand wrote:


Whatever the particulars of the bad Palmar scumread, I still think this is easily the most compelling reason for the HF scum case:

On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?

Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.

In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea

Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me


HF has largely abandoned his provably false ideas of "well, I couldn't change the mayor lynch" given the way the mayor lynch is received mechanically and the fact he was in thread and watched and commented on the shenannnies as they went down. Just for killing Palmar is he scum? eh, maybe not. But for lying about it, then slithering away from the lie when called out? oh yeah baby


scum reads BH

don't get me wrong, it's all true but it still seems a bit of a weird 180 when BH hasn't done anything new that he hadn't been already doing

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On March 07 2019 22:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:37 Acrofales wrote:
On March 07 2019 22:32 Jockmcplop wrote:
I'm leaning heavily towards a scum read on BH right now. The more he posts the more scummy his motivations seem to be. His attacks on hf look as if he has made them up on the spot in an effort to try and paint hf as mafia, rather than coming to natural conclusions about hf from available evidence.

The best example of this is the following post:

On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?

Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.

In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea

Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me


This is pure speculation and I like how creative it is, but it is not evidence.

He then refers back to this as 'compelling' a few posts later, but as we can see it isn't compelling its a rather badly shoehorned piece of fiction, designed to create an mirage.

On March 06 2019 18:31 Blazinghand wrote:


Whatever the particulars of the bad Palmar scumread, I still think this is easily the most compelling reason for the HF scum case:

On March 06 2019 09:38 Blazinghand wrote:
HF why did you claim a shot on me?

Here's a theory as to why HF did this. It is because he is scum.

In the Scum QT:
Holyflare: Hey guys, the deadline is coming up. We know a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and then probably claim after the daypost.
Other Scums: yeah, sounds accurate to me.
Holyflare: then Blazinghand will flip town, and i'm going to look real bad.
Other Scums: oh no!
Holyflare: ok, but here's the plan. I'm going to, right before the end of the night, with second on the clock, claim that I'm the vigi and am shooting BH.
Other Scums: why would you do this HF? we're not shooting BH...
Holflare: see, a vigi is going to shoot Blazinghand, and I will get autolynched D2 unless I can pose as the vigi who shot him. This will allow me to get in one more mislynch, as people will trust me. If the real vigi counterclaims, that's still a better situation than if I never claimed in the first place and just let myself get autolynched.
Other Scums: good idea

Then, for some reason, I didn't get shot, and now HF has to just pretend he never claimed he was shooting me


HF has largely abandoned his provably false ideas of "well, I couldn't change the mayor lynch" given the way the mayor lynch is received mechanically and the fact he was in thread and watched and commented on the shenannnies as they went down. Just for killing Palmar is he scum? eh, maybe not. But for lying about it, then slithering away from the lie when called out? oh yeah baby

Ok, so what is the point of town!HF to claim a fake vig shot? I didn't incorporate it in my case, because it's mostly wifom, but I really don't see it:

1. He made a big play and it backfired spectacularly.
2. He makes another big play just for shit and giggles? WTF?

Now, lets say BH had gotten vig'd. We'd have a townie counterclaiming the vig shot, and today would have been an even bigger shitshow. Lynch all liars is a damned good policy for a reason, because even if townies *do* do this kind of stupid shit, it is blatantly anti-town play. And the *second* time HF does a big anti-town play in the same damn game.


That's true, but doesn't say anything about the point I am making. This story BH is telling is meaningless, as if he needed something completely made up to emphasize his argument for some reason.
Also, if we are lynching people for anti-town play, what about the whole of D1/N1 from BH? Blatant anti-town play that has no upside or no possible upside for town.


seems like a pretty big scum read on BH

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On March 08 2019 01:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
On March 08 2019 01:17 rsoultin wrote:
Actually, if we're looking for people over-justifying votes I'd say Jock qualifies. Caveat is I think he was planning on looking into BH earlier.


I've said that since I voted for trfel on the first night. I wanted to see more from BH to see what he's all about.
I have done, but I still don't know who to vote for tonight so I'm keeping an eye out.

Ace is still a good candidate... turning up with his one word replies pointing out other people's mistakes while keeping his mouth pretty much shut about everything.


but then says he doesn't know who to vote for and maybe vote for Ace?????????? (who is also another good pick for mafia but it's just a weird thought process when you think BH is mafia???)


Conclusion: Says a lot of stuff that appeals to me but it's his first game, he's got a 100% town read on me after meta reading?????? (read his filter with regards to me and thinking my alignment is town through the read and you'll become suspicious) and scum reads BH and is unsure of who to vote?

Honestly if you read his filter it looks like he's playing with perfect info and knows alignments of people when he talks about them but I feel bad because he's also defending me and I like the guy.


Don't take this the wrong way but scumreading me while apologizing because I'm new is condescending af. If you think I'm scum just lay it out there don't apologize for it.


you say this:

This vote doesn't make sense in the slightest. He doesn't have a read on Trfel, says a reason for him not to be mafia and votes Trfel because other people have reads on him.

Town reads me at some point.
No mention of BH
No mention of BH
No mention of BH



The vote makes sense and I'll refer you back to your own post as to why. Find this quote of yours that I'm replying to and move your eyes down the page about an inch. There it is!
I voted trfel because acro had quite a few votes and I was wondering how deep the shenanigans go and EoD here. I wanted to keep acro alive because he seems the most town out of anyone here (or did tome at the time).

Why not mention of BH?
Well at this point all he had done is ask to die.
I wanted to see what happened when he stopped asking to die. What would he do? Then I could read him.

You're right I did scumread BH. Honestly I ended up going for an impropmtu night out which took us past the deadline. My plan was to keep my vote on Ace and switch to a wagon if required,but fuck me if I didn't get wasted and only got home 15 minutes ago.

Its quote convenient that a TMI read on me from you automatically exonerates you from being scum though. Its almost like attacking me has a secondary purpose here.



RIP Meatloaf <3
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 08 2019 03:15 GMT
#5787
Good evening to our long time fans and first time listeners alike. You're tuned in to the Dead Zone Show, Liquidia's number one and only late night radio program. I'm your host Mr. Wiggles, and it's a pleasure to be with you here tonight, whether you're a certified night owl or have been driven to insomnia by the guilt of your mafioso crimes.

We'll be opening up the lines to callers right away and responding to your mail, but first we need to address recent events in Liquidia. We have recently been notified that long-wanted criminal and local madman Blazinghand has finally been brought to justice and met his ends on the gallows. Unfortunately, despite previous signs pointing to the contrary his blood flowed as green as a fresh mowed lawn. This is a loss to the town, but we must persevere and push forward against our common enemy. With each passing day the shadows grow shorter and soon there will be nowhere left to hide. Town's comin' for you, scum.

With that said, we hope you enjoy the rest of tonight's program.

+ Show Spoiler +


you gotta dance
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 03:16 GMT
#5788
Man you know what sucks the most about all this? I don't think we learn dick all about anything from this lynch.

Gonna do a little work on this tonight and maybe some light filter diving. I won't be lynching HF tomorrow so I have to figure out which of the garbage is worth taking out first.

Off the bat NKs are probably Rels and Vivax, and if scum does have that third KP, maybe rayn?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 08 2019 03:20 GMT
#5789
First time writer rsoultin penned down:

On March 07 2019 17:18 rsoultin wrote:
Tried to read Wiggles filter and my brain petered out halfway through. That will have to come later. My general impression of him this game is not much different than my issue with Wave was on D1, though. Pretty peanut gallery. With an addition of being too nice, at least to me. Gun to my head I'd vote Wiggles today pre-reviewing his filter.


Despite the threat of violence against yours truly, we appreciate the sentiment. We here at the Dead Zone Show have done our best to buck the recent trend towards rudeness and vulgarity exhibited by so many of our peers. At the end of the day, mafia is a game, so why work ourselves up to the point we're no longer having fun? The distance of years has imparted at least some wisdom to this old fool.
you gotta dance
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 08 2019 03:27 GMT
#5790
We've got our first caller on the line:

On March 08 2019 12:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Man you know what sucks the most about all this? I don't think we learn dick all about anything from this lynch.

Gonna do a little work on this tonight and maybe some light filter diving. I won't be lynching HF tomorrow so I have to figure out which of the garbage is worth taking out first.

Off the bat NKs are probably Rels and Vivax, and if scum does have that third KP, maybe rayn?


Vivax is a town read for us here at the DZS, so we implore any medically minded individuals amongst our listeners to find it in their hearts to consider them for a night-time check up.

We also get the feeling that Rayn may be of a more crimson persuasion than our caller believes. As such, he should be safe from unwanted midnight visitors.

The interesting one here is Rels. Now we don't want to dig in too much to what might be happening in that QT, but taking he and rsoultin at face value, it sounds like there's a distinct lack of communication there. Contrary to some opinions, we do not see being a mason as alignment indicative. On the contrary, Rels' lack of presence and seeming scum-hunting places him firmly in a pile of low-post-frequency undesirables who will need to be sorted through carefully.
you gotta dance
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 08 2019 03:39 GMT
#5791
Day One Final Vote Count

Mayor
Holyflare (16): Tubesock, Holyflare, rsoultin, Ace, Mr. Wiggles, Jockmcplop, Mocsta, [UoN]Sentinel, Pandain, sicklucker, raynpelikoneet, Fecalfeast, iamperfection, Damdred, ExO_, Trfel
Palmar (12): Palmar, Ticktock, Meapak_Zipphh, WaveofShadow, Grackaroni, Conversion, Alakaslam, LightningStrike, Vivax, BloodyC0bbler, Acrofales, Blazinghand
iamperfection (4): darthfoley, Tumblewood, Koshi, Oatsmaster
Chezinu (1):Chezinu
Onegu (1): Onegu
rsoultin (1): Rels

Lynch
Trfel (11): Tubesock, sicklucker, [UoN]Sentinel, Koshi, Mr. Wiggles, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jockmcplop, Acrofales, Vivax, Conversion
Blazinghand (10): Holyflare, Grackaroni, iamperfection, Oatsmaster, WaveOfShadow, raynpelikoneet, Trfel, rsoultin, ExO_, LightningStrike
Conversion (3): Mocsta, Alakaslam, darthfoley
Acrofales (2): Damdred, Tictock
iamperfection (2): BloodyC0bbler, Blazinghand
Koshi (1): Ace
Fecalfeast (1): Pandain
Grackaroni (1): Meapak_Ziphh
LightningStrike (1): Rels
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Chezinu
rsoultin (1): Onegu
Mr. Wiggles (1): Palmar

Ya mafia were laughing their asses off Day 1 lynch wise with both wagons being town. Gotta take a closer look on some of the votes and reasoning at some point.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 08 2019 03:39 GMT
#5792
On March 08 2019 12:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Man you know what sucks the most about all this? I don't think we learn dick all about anything from this lynch.



Wow. Fucking brilliant.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 08 2019 03:50 GMT
#5793
On March 08 2019 12:39 Ace wrote:
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On March 08 2019 12:16 WaveofShadow wrote:
Man you know what sucks the most about all this? I don't think we learn dick all about anything from this lynch.



Wow. Fucking brilliant.

Well I'd love to hear your insight at any time.
From my point of view, both wagons are town and nobody else had a hope of getting lynched all day, so people were free to pile on if and when they wanted.

But by all means Ace, school me.
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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 08 2019 03:55 GMT
#5794
Our next letter is quite unpleasant. The contents of if describe various threats of death and bodily harm to your host in graphic detail, and the letter also looks to be smeared with what appears to be excrement.

Though the signature is partially obscured by said foul substance, we can make out some of the letters: A--of-l-s.

Now, we have a suspicion of who this misguided individual could be, and so we'll be addressing this hate-mail.

+ Show Spoiler [Disturbing Letter to our Host] +

On March 08 2019 06:25 A--of-l-s wrote:
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On March 08 2019 05:58 Vivax wrote:
On March 08 2019 05:50 A--of-l-s wrote:
On March 08 2019 05:48 Vivax wrote:
Looks like Ill have to vote BH then to ensure this isnt another fuckup day.

Just look at wiggles first, please?


His posts where he talks to TS seem good to me. TS was like "If Im mayor, ill sheep HF", effectively avoiding to give out an opinion on anyone. WIggles picked up on that.

Third post he calls out like 3 or 4 dudes (you, sent, conversion) for not sticking their neck out, effectively sticking out his own.

Idk, just doesnt seem mafia to me. Also, he most likely was the first to catch TS, so kudos to him.

I can do any other player I have listed in my final list. And BH is the next one in it.

Ok. You're right. The interaction with TS is actually okay :/

But it's from this point onward that I just read mehhhh:
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On March 04 2019 14:20 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What do you think of the Acro case Oats?

I've been going back re-reading his posts and the case on him, but I'm having trouble making up my mind. I'll probably sleep on it and re-read again in the morning.

"please tell me what to think, I'll get back" (never did)

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On March 05 2019 05:48 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 05 2019 05:44 Ace wrote:
Blazinghand don't get yourself lynched for bs. If you're town you just waste a day as there's no real discussion being generated regarding you, and it's an easy wagon for Scum to hop on.

Thank you! Felt like I was yelling into the wind

Claims he was advocating for BH being town (although I have no idea how Ace got there either), when he was advocating for a mayor to shiv BH rather than lynching him:
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On March 05 2019 04:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
What's with the BH train? If you want to kill a hardcore lurker like that why not use the mayor lynch? I don't see the benefit



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On March 05 2019 06:17 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
I'll consolidate onto trfel, feels better than Conv to me right now.

I read rsoul town for what it's worth

Yeuchhhh

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On March 05 2019 12:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On March 05 2019 12:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anyway, as much as tooting my own horn is super fun (man I was a goddamn all-star scum player---I think my winrate might have been better than HFs)---

I want to make this clear before I post a little on rsoul
We are lynching ONLY HF OR BH tomorrow.
The game can't proceed properly until that's done. Of those two, I'd rather HF die. Not sure if for personal/fun reasons or not, but whateva. I will not be pushing anyone else actively.


I'll be interested to see what you say about rsoul. Don't read her that way and would rather she doesn't catch a bullet.

Hopefully someone takes care of BH tonight. I get that HF needs to flip too. =/

"Please tell me what to think" take 2.

Nothing he did in D1 was to take solid stances. The very start of the game he was pressuring TS a bit, but dropped it when he got no support and it kinda just faded.


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On March 05 2019 12:34 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
As much as I didn't like Conversion, Marv seems cool so far.

Not only is this a lie (he scummed trfel over conversion), but marv came in looking pretty townie. If wiggles is scum this is such a safe play! Gain easy town credit when later in the night you shank him. So fucking simple (and btw, I've done this).

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On March 05 2019 14:50 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Rayn, is your read on Acro still the same? You had him pegged as scum earlier.

I don't see it after the second half of the day and the reaction to the Palmar lynch. He's helping move the game forward in a useful way now, even if he's wrong about some things (like me)

"Please tell me what to think" take 3.


Then there's a lot of just generally just looking like he's saying stuff without actually saying stuff.

I mean. Do I have a sure read on Wiggles? No. Not really. He could just be a town that's really struggling with the length of the game. But I'm more confident that he's scum than I am that BH is. And for the rest I'm sure Palmar had a damned good reason to suddenly spam the thread with Wiggles is Mafia. He didn't do that with Sentinel, BC or HF. He read Wiggles filter and you can see the alarm bells go off in his head. He never really said why. But it's blendy shit and reads like a blendy mafia.

I have played a scumgame with Wiggles a looooong time ago, and remember bussing him at some point for being all blendy and lurky and stuff. Same as this play. But not sure I ever played with town Wiggles, so meta case is not a good case here.



Now this individual claims several times that your host is asking callers to tell him what to think about some of our other citizens, rather than making up his own mind. We can say that this is a patently false statement.

After our first interaction asking about esteemed citizen Acrofales (no relation to A--of-l-s, we hope), we made up our minds that we consider him to be of a green persuasion. See our lack of joining the mob looking to do him violence on Day 1. We later press Rayn (who we are suspicious of!) about their read of Acrofales (who again, we think is town). The case put forward by Rayn appears to be a bunch of hooey from our perspective, so we want to see if he'll double-down on it, which they have more than done throughout the night and this day cycle, even going so far as to avoid the other wagons.

rsoultin was another of our town reads, so any cases put forth to attempt to undermine or sway opinion to the contrary were of interest to us. This was especially important, because cases made and pushed throughout the night could persuade the vigilante element of our society to take things into their own hands. Many of our players are a little buck-wild, to put things lightly, so it was a valid concern.

Lastly, regarding our dearly departed suicidal team mate BH, we did not want to see a large wagon on him on D1. We felt that the wagons and votes of the day would provide information that would be useful, and that this would be subverted by having the entire town jump on a martyr who we could instead let the mayor take care of. We did not once claim a town read on BH, but have leaned null (early) to scum (recently). Regardless of BH's alignment the Day 1 wagon was very easy for scum to hop onto if they so desired without needing to put forward any contribution.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 08 2019 03:55 GMT
#5795
At least the bh flip gave us TvT on Day 1.
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 08 2019 03:57 GMT
#5796
On March 08 2019 12:55 LightningStrike wrote:
At least the bh flip gave us TvT on Day 1.


Always a shit match up. TvP was much better.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 08 2019 03:58 GMT
#5797
On March 08 2019 12:57 Ace wrote:
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On March 08 2019 12:55 LightningStrike wrote:
At least the bh flip gave us TvT on Day 1.


Always a shit match up. TvP was much better.

LMAO wp man wp
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 08 2019 03:58 GMT
#5798
the host post was fine
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 08 2019 03:58 GMT
#5799
But on a more serious note Ace seeing that it was Town vs Town flip on Day 1 does that change anything for you at all?
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Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 08 2019 04:07 GMT
#5800
On March 08 2019 12:58 LightningStrike wrote:
But on a more serious note Ace seeing that it was Town vs Town flip on Day 1 does that change anything for you at all?
Why would it. the game is going to plan...
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