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Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 29 2018 03:09 GMT
#1541
My defense is that I am town. That is all
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
June 29 2018 03:10 GMT
#1542
also I am going to bed and won't be around basically all day tomorrow. I'm going to stick to my word and vote to lynch HF with fire for pulling that boxerfred shit
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 29 2018 03:16 GMT
#1543
HF who would you have shot as mafia?
table for two on a tv tray
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:28 GMT
#1544
On June 27 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:
##Unvote

I dunno if Calix is town, but I trust Regfan enough to relinquish my read.

I would vote between Shockeyy and Koshi equally if Calix wont be wagon'd.

Shockeyy cos that post shitting on town for being down each others throats is such a mafia style intro post.
Koshi for reasons I mentioned prior.

Will decide when i wake up. ciao.


Sorry if I am "difficult" but then explain to me your vote on Boxerored and not Shockey if you think he is mafia?

"REASONS"

On June 29 2018 01:32 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.


If this is it, then is funny how mafia put all his effort to lynch TT and not distribute the vote.

This is quite interesting.


It is difficult to me to imagine a town not voting for a mafia read but instead an afk person.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 03:33 GMT
#1545
i didnt vote shockeyy because my strong town read rayn was so certain of shockeyy being town.

heres a big tip

why dont you go and put all this nice effort into conversion vote actions.

like. yeah im mafia and the way to win is to cop this type of heat for lynch actions.
this is so fuckn stupid.
rayn and hf might want to gloat how they fuckn are nk this and that.
well i will gloat as mafia, i simply do not put myself in positions to be scrutinised like this from wagons.
i jsut dont, everything is meticulous in the filter for follow through.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:35 GMT
#1546
Like I can understand if you got convinced by regfan that Calix is town but now?

Oh, I am frustrated because I am like seriously trying to solve the game but if I ask is like

"Bitch", "Stupid", "Biased", "Grammar problems"

Not a fun at all game to play.

The only way I would enjoy this is if Rayn and Slenderman are mafia and drink margaritas together somewhere in Finland while fooling me but that mental image looks distant.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 03:35 GMT
#1547
On June 29 2018 12:28 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 20:32 Mocsta wrote:
##Unvote

I dunno if Calix is town, but I trust Regfan enough to relinquish my read.

I would vote between Shockeyy and Koshi equally if Calix wont be wagon'd.

Shockeyy cos that post shitting on town for being down each others throats is such a mafia style intro post.
Koshi for reasons I mentioned prior.

Will decide when i wake up. ciao.


Sorry if I am "difficult" but then explain to me your vote on Boxerored and not Shockey if you think he is mafia?

"REASONS"

Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 01:32 CopCake wrote:
On June 28 2018 08:17 Tubesock wrote:
Final Day 1 Vote Count



Tictock[3]:Holyflare, Vivax, Conversion, Holyflare, ShoCkeyy, raynpelikoneet, CopCake
ShoCkeyy[4]:Regfan Vivax, Tictock, Calix,Vivax,Mocsta, Koshi, Regfan,Tictock, Conversion
Calix[0]:raynpelikoneet,Mocsta,CopCake, Koshi, raynpelikoneet
boxerfred[5]:boxerfred, Holyflare, Mocsta, Calix, Vivax
Holyflare[0]:Conversion Calix
Regfan[0]:Mocsta,Tictock
Koshi[0]:Vivax, Mocsta
TheSlenderMan[1]:TheSlenderMan
CopCake[0]:Vivax, Calix
Vivax[0]:Holyflare,Calix, Regfan
raynpelikoneet [0]:Tictock

Boxerfred has been lynched.


If this is it, then is funny how mafia put all his effort to lynch TT and not distribute the vote.

This is quite interesting.


It is difficult to me to imagine a town not voting for a mafia read but instead an afk person.


This is because of inductive vs deductive logic.

when i say i have a mafia read, it is at a completely different intensity to what the majority state.
my game play is based on impressions because i look at everything.. which also means what i do view is in many ways, shallow or superficial.

this is why at the game start, regfan thought i was detached because i can easily jump from person to person.

i dont need you to get that.. you just need to understand not everyone plays the way you do.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:38 GMT
#1548
On June 29 2018 12:33 Mocsta wrote:
i didnt vote shockeyy because my strong town read rayn was so certain of shockeyy being town.

heres a big tip

why dont you go and put all this nice effort into conversion vote actions.

like. yeah im mafia and the way to win is to cop this type of heat for lynch actions.
this is so fuckn stupid.
rayn and hf might want to gloat how they fuckn are nk this and that.
well i will gloat as mafia, i simply do not put myself in positions to be scrutinised like this from wagons.
i jsut dont, everything is meticulous in the filter for follow through.


Conversion was on TT, last moment was on Shockey, gonna check his filter again to see if he ever mentioned him.

The problem here is that you had a scum read, two scum reads on wagons.

You got convinced on one, but the other one????

I am gonna start to type sorry in each post in case I piss off some for my questions.

Sorry.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:40 GMT
#1549
On June 27 2018 01:39 Conversion wrote:
Actually it might be a tossup between him and ShoCkeyy for the worst entrances in this game

Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 22:40 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I go to dinner, sleep, get ready for work, get my day started, visit TL, see 13 pages, type this response, close TL, be back later to read walls of text T_T



why even post this



Welp, this is his reason to vote him apparently.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:42 GMT
#1550
On June 27 2018 02:07 Conversion wrote:
I don't think either Vivax or Calix is mafia for all that's worth at this very exact moment in the game. Or if they was one, it'd be a 1/1 split. No way mafiateam Vivax and Calix randomly jump on Copcake like that.. no reward medium risk play.

Rereading rayn/reg makes me solidified in not wanting to lynch them today. Rayn is probably town, reg I get a weird feeling from filter.. like they post a lot and bring a good logical standpoint on things but can't remember anything memorable coming from it? Hence why I wanted some other inputs, but doubt regfan should ever be lynched today, I suppose.

Gun to my head, my lynch pool would be HF > Shock > Koshi, but things will change.. will dive Tictock some time later since lunch break is over


Another one mentioning Shock

"will dive on TT"

Let's see where it leads.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:43 GMT
#1551
On June 27 2018 02:08 Conversion wrote:
also I don't like Tictock's continuous mention of how he is unlynchable this game. rubs me the wrong way


There you have it.

Conversion is so fucking town.

His change of vote was to save Boxfred.

GG.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 03:46 GMT
#1552
Now Mocsta, let's say you are town

What do you think of that?

And if you agree that Conversion look more townie, who are the mafia besides Calix in your point of view?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 03:47 GMT
#1553
On June 29 2018 12:38 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 12:33 Mocsta wrote:
i didnt vote shockeyy because my strong town read rayn was so certain of shockeyy being town.

heres a big tip

why dont you go and put all this nice effort into conversion vote actions.

like. yeah im mafia and the way to win is to cop this type of heat for lynch actions.
this is so fuckn stupid.
rayn and hf might want to gloat how they fuckn are nk this and that.
well i will gloat as mafia, i simply do not put myself in positions to be scrutinised like this from wagons.
i jsut dont, everything is meticulous in the filter for follow through.


Conversion was on TT, last moment was on Shockey, gonna check his filter again to see if he ever mentioned him.

The problem here is that you had a scum read, two scum reads on wagons.

You got convinced on one, but the other one????

I am gonna start to type sorry in each post in case I piss off some for my questions.

Sorry.
its ok, i've calmed down somewhat.
i do apologise for those outburts, not that it is acceptable in the first place.

this game is frustrating to me because the first 24hrs seemed almost perfect (from my PoV at least). the next 72hr.. meh

anyways,
my lynch options one hour from EoD was Calix, Shockeyy and Koshi.
I have already explained why i didnt want to vote calix and shockeyy.
and it should be clear i didnt want to vote TT.
so i voted koshi, and everyone shit on me.

Thats why i swapped to fred, it was a 50/50 lynch when i had no options.

I think it may have been HF saying TT was town for not swapping to boxer to savehimself?
it sounded plausible when i read it, but now i think about it, i dont agree.
as town i have swapped onto unknowns to save myself.
i only wouldnt swap if the alternate wagon was a very strong town read.
i still think tt is town though, just not for that reasoning.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 03:49 GMT
#1554
On June 29 2018 12:43 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2018 02:08 Conversion wrote:
also I don't like Tictock's continuous mention of how he is unlynchable this game. rubs me the wrong way


There you have it.

Conversion is so fucking town.

His change of vote was to save Boxfred.

GG.
this went over my head

i dont understand how saving boxerfred makes someone town?
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 03:52 GMT
#1555
i think you should be considering with Conversion why he even has those opinions.

Everything is just loose throw away comments that echo others
"ohh, this person rubs me the wrong way"

Heres one for you, do any of conversions opinions that you share come first?
I suspect it does not.

CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 04:01 GMT
#1556
On June 29 2018 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
i think you should be considering with Conversion why he even has those opinions.

Everything is just loose throw away comments that echo others
"ohh, this person rubs me the wrong way"

Heres one for you, do any of conversions opinions that you share come first?
I suspect it does not.



He wanted to kill his mafia reads, never a town.

Unless you think TT and Shockey are both town idk how Conversion's pov doesn't work with yours since you also think Shockey is mafia.

Conversion tried HARD to kill Shockey to save Boxerfred.
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 04:02 GMT
#1557
And with town I mean AFK someone, I honestly don't get WHY someone would lynch an afk over their mafia read.

Sorry.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 04:04 GMT
#1558
On June 29 2018 13:01 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
i think you should be considering with Conversion why he even has those opinions.

Everything is just loose throw away comments that echo others
"ohh, this person rubs me the wrong way"

Heres one for you, do any of conversions opinions that you share come first?
I suspect it does not.



He wanted to kill his mafia reads, never a town.

Unless you think TT and Shockey are both town idk how Conversion's pov doesn't work with yours since you also think Shockey is mafia.

Conversion tried HARD to kill Shockey to save Boxerfred.
Please listen carefully.

Do you even understand why conversion has those reads....

The act of follow through is non-alignment indicative. Both mafia and town have reasons to do it.
Its why and how that matters, and at least to me, its very much lacking with conversion.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
June 29 2018 04:08 GMT
#1559
On June 28 2018 01:58 Conversion wrote:
Tictock’s unlynchable bit bothered me and then he chooses to completely ignore the fact that I wasn’t trying to actually policy you and make up some crap about how I perceive you when playing together, and pins that as why I pushed you for the greater half of day1, which is just a flat out lie. I don’t see the reason for town anyone to misrepresent something I clarified about and then disseminate false information. It wasn’t even a mistake of misreading my filter, it was pulled out of thin air.
And this unlynchable thing.. this happened on what.. p8 and is an outcome of HF + me/rayn saying we could swing a vote.

Yet, what is conversion reaction at that phase.
On June 26 2018 21:38 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2018 11:50 Regfan wrote:
@Conversion - What's your reads/thoughts on Non-Holyflare players?

On June 26 2018 11:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Basically what i found out to be mostly correct is that tt makes more detailed and not all over the place posts more likely as town in comparison to as mafia. It's partly meta partly just gameplay. Especially him looking like he is thinking about what he posts mid-post aka the post on Calix seems to me way more likely to come from town than from mafia. idk it is hard to explain, i think he can make a post like that as mafia as well but i don't think he makes THAT specific post as mafia, post would probably be more lazy and have a different umm... goal in mind that it seems like it has.

Cheers, most of this makes a lot of sense. Wouldn't mind you getting to the Moscsta question when you get a chance, we're reading his posts here as busywork to a degree and Gemma can't work out why the things he's commenting on are important to him or where he's really trying to go with it and working out if this is just a playstyle concern or not would be nice.

-R


I’m peeved Mocsta acknowledged I was “making hits” and didn’t answer my question.

CopCake randomly townreading me (though the screen touching joke was funny) bothers me

Calix not answering why she voted HF bothers me

Nothing substantial yet. CopCake feels town even though she randoy townread peopl earlier but I’d want to mull on it a bit more


Which is related to this:
On June 26 2018 10:17 Holyflare wrote:
We should be lynch ticktock though.
On June 26 2018 10:19 Mocsta wrote:
im not against this either
On June 26 2018 11:49 Conversion wrote:
why



and you call me shallow? jeez
CopCake
Profile Joined August 2015
4378 Posts
June 29 2018 04:10 GMT
#1560
On June 29 2018 13:04 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2018 13:01 CopCake wrote:
On June 29 2018 12:52 Mocsta wrote:
i think you should be considering with Conversion why he even has those opinions.

Everything is just loose throw away comments that echo others
"ohh, this person rubs me the wrong way"

Heres one for you, do any of conversions opinions that you share come first?
I suspect it does not.



He wanted to kill his mafia reads, never a town.

Unless you think TT and Shockey are both town idk how Conversion's pov doesn't work with yours since you also think Shockey is mafia.

Conversion tried HARD to kill Shockey to save Boxerfred.
Please listen carefully.

Do you even understand why conversion has those reads....

The act of follow through is non-alignment indicative. Both mafia and town have reasons to do it.
Its why and how that matters, and at least to me, its very much lacking with conversion.


To me actions speak more than a thousand of walls of posts with fancy words.
Words lie.
Actions don't.

The fact he tried to save boxer says a lot.

He could have stayed and then be like "THIS IS SO STUPID BLA BLA BLA BLA"

But he actually TRIED*

Unless he tried to be like "this is so dumb bla bla" but as a mafia point of view, why just not pretend to afk and be back later?

The action to me is what speaks he is town :/

Sorry.
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