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I really don't think responding to these emotional posts by calling people scummy for them does anything but make that person more annoyed. So let's not do that!
Perhaps we should just...move on? Ignore it? Decide on who a good lynch is?
Because THIS IS A REALLY BAD TIME TO BE TALKING ABOUT FEE-FEES.
Is there a good reason I've missed for Vivax being town, for example? I know TT thinks he's town for 'posting in bursts which mafia!Vivax struggles with' but I'm not so sure there. I'm a bit skeptical myself because Vivax's posts on Mocsta didn't actually suck.
I'd also switch to ShoCkeyy. Nobody's given a good reason for town-reading him and his 'dumb tell' does not mean anything IMO. I think his weirdly confident stance on TT/ Calix with little evidence, combined with his generally mediocre filter, makes him a way better lynch than TT or myself.
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Ok, I apologize to Regfan sincerely, since I know he hasnt played and in the game I remember him on VS he also got shit so yeah.
But if this “explosion” is staged or fake idk what I will think of this.
Peace out. Not gonna the lurk the thread until the end of the day, that was too much to me.
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On June 28 2018 02:18 Calix wrote:
I really don't think responding to these emotional posts by calling people scummy for them does anything but make that person more annoyed. So let's not do that!
Perhaps we should just...move on? Ignore it? Decide on who a good lynch is?
Because THIS IS A REALLY BAD TIME TO BE TALKING ABOUT FEE-FEES.
Is there a good reason I've missed for Vivax being town, for example? I know TT thinks he's town for 'posting in bursts which mafia!Vivax struggles with' but I'm not so sure there. I'm a bit skeptical myself because Vivax's posts on Mocsta didn't actually suck.
I'd also switch to ShoCkeyy. Nobody's given a good reason for town-reading him and his 'dumb tell' does not mean anything IMO. I think his weirdly confident stance on TT/ Calix with little evidence, combined with his generally mediocre filter, makes him a way better lynch than TT or myself.
No, we should not leave it alone. We should be talking about how Gemma can easily provide a paraphrased log of discord any time now and give us a general time frame for each paraphrased topic.
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On June 27 2018 22:39 CopCake wrote:
And I dont like regfan being all “oh but i havent played you know this rayn”
Sounds like appeal to emotion.
Everyone is busy.
Everyone has a life.
Me right now is answering from a gym so yeah.
You are taking this way out of context, there was a bunch of reasoning past this and it is kinda oversimplifying what Reg said anyhow.
Looking at how/why people leave the thread is valid imo. Rayn ducking out kus he and Conversion exchanged a few insults is vastly different than someone having a life.
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Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick.
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On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick.
I would rather they confirm that themselves thanks.
Calix could definitely be mafia for the tt post though too.
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@Calix you can just CTRL+F Shock here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Conversion&view=all
but I aggregated some things. I think I just put him on a low-key read but don't dwell on because I tried way too hard to read into him in the aforementioned game and was just straight up wrong.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 11:32 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:And I'm caught up. I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game. Also people should talk about this: What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia? HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good. and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it? true Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked. To the other things: If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways. So yes you are scummy. Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied? I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas no bueno On November 01 2017 11:41 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet. I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum  I just pointed your entrance out b/c it's like Tictock randomly de-towning me in his list for not seeing obvious joke posts.. except you applied that to a broader audience instead of just me. Seemed like a lazy, forced comment about a bunch of fluff that came out within the first hour of the game On November 02 2017 01:14 Conversion wrote:
I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason. On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote:
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum On November 02 2017 07:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.
And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here. you’re not dealing with anyone. you come up when someone mentions you then disappear again your behavior is 100% clear as day scum. try harder On November 03 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote:
Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.
I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.
Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.
As I said, lynch shockey or feed. I mirror this part 1000%
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On June 28 2018 02:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick. I would rather they confirm that themselves thanks. Calix could definitely be mafia for the tt post though too.
Oh really? I've just followed my TT post up with two lynch alternatives plus discussion that's moving AWAY from this emotion stuff.
Which you are completely ignoring to call me mafia for a post that is not mafia at all.
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On June 27 2018 22:46 Koshi wrote:
I read rayn last post and this page in reverse order. I havent read the last 12ish pages except snippets somewhere I posted. Nothing from Vivax or Calix looks town enough to warrant protest. So I wont. Regfan I wouldnt lynch in a million years. Holy fuck can they type words. If you play scum like that you need to get a reality check irl. Ponder your life choices.
So with the best player on this site being hindered to solve the game I have no choice to believe the second best player.
I assume he is votin Calix
## Vote Calix
This is where all uncertain voters should be voting btw.
Koshi can play so much better than this with just as little effort.
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On June 28 2018 01:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work
Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote. I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me. I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now) when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing. If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way. I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him. You then provide no alternative.
I actually hate this even more because until I changed my vote I think vivax was actually in the lead in votes.
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On June 28 2018 02:26 Conversion wrote:@Calix you can just CTRL+F Shock here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia?user=Conversion&view=allbut I aggregated some things. I think I just put him on a low-key read but don't dwell on because I tried way too hard to read into him in the aforementioned game and was just straight up wrong. + Show Spoiler +On November 01 2017 11:32 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:27 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:24 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 11:10 Conversion wrote:On November 01 2017 11:09 happykrogan wrote:On November 01 2017 10:55 Tictock wrote:And I'm caught up. I dislike Shokey calling out people who haven't posted yet this early in the game. Also people should talk about this: What do you make of HF voting Damer, the pressuring you for also thinking Damer might be mafia? HF wasn't pressuring conv for thinking damer might be mafia. He pressured him because of the reasons he gave for disliking him weren't good. and you haven't followed up with anything, either. What's your opinion on the thread so far? Am I scummy for acting similarly to my last game? What about Shockey? Is he clear lynch bait, or is he mafia? What's your opinion on the interactions between me, rux, and HF? What's your opinion on TicTock's string of posts, and the conclusion he comes from it? true Well I think your reasoning for disliking damerion seemed pretty forced. Like if you had to think of something because you got asked. To the other things: If I don't say anything about other things it usally means I have no opinon on them. I'm newbie so it is still hard for me to figure out how I interpret posts and I prefer to wait until more is said before I give hasty reads I change anyways. So yes you are scummy. Fair. Hope that changes over the course of the game, b/c I'm not scum but I can see where you're coming from I guess. Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 07:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
lol at this early game posting. Is this the new meta? To just claim something and then hope no one notices you lied? I don't really like this entrance, and I don't really like his last post of "let's just wait for AFKers to come in." you shouldn't be sitting around twiddling your thumbs and waiting for people to not be AFK. it's awful behavior, and there was more than enough content to push some buttons/ask questions and agendas no bueno On November 01 2017 11:41 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2017 11:39 ShoCkeyy wrote:I mean the game just started, there is nothing to really post about other than Conversion getting triggered about being "grilled"... I also posted the list because I mentioned it's too early to even try to vote because these "list" haven't posted yet. I haven't really played with any of you other than Holy, Damred, Vivax, and what may be Oatsmaster (but I don't recall). So I'm still just poking around and seeing what comes out of what. I don't mind taking the fall for now until some one slips, cause it's what I usually do. So far those who are "suspicious" of me, one of them have a good chance at being scum I just pointed your entrance out b/c it's like Tictock randomly de-towning me in his list for not seeing obvious joke posts.. except you applied that to a broader audience instead of just me. Seemed like a lazy, forced comment about a bunch of fluff that came out within the first hour of the game On November 02 2017 01:14 Conversion wrote:
I'm voting ShoCkeyy until he stops dodging me for whatever reason. On November 02 2017 07:03 Conversion wrote:
someone explain to me why shockey is bad town instead of scum for his leaps in logic and deflecting shit back onto me because I'm not seeing it and he should be lynched because he is scum On November 02 2017 07:34 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2017 07:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I chose to dodge it, so there's my reason. I don't need to deal with you anymore but you insist, I've caught you messing up with your own posts, I've already proven that my reading comprehension isn't off, and you're easily triggered. I rather deal with others at this point.
And you're not being any help. Brb my sun here. you’re not dealing with anyone. you come up when someone mentions you then disappear again your behavior is 100% clear as day scum. try harder On November 03 2017 06:30 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2017 06:28 Vivax wrote:
Well my vote stands and I explained why I'm not going to vote TT.
I'm not feeling a Ruxxar lynch either atm.
Shockey is simply the best lynch and I'm not going to do anything besides pointing to today's arguments and voting him for the rest of the game.
As I said, lynch shockey or feed. I mirror this part 1000%
I also think I had fairly well reads that game, yet I was the bad guy  I also forgot TT was in that game too... and I remember now pushing him for his ugly early game play, oh god, its the same game.
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On June 28 2018 02:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 02:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick. I would rather they confirm that themselves thanks. Calix could definitely be mafia for the tt post though too. Oh really? I've just followed my TT post up with two lynch alternatives plus discussion that's moving AWAY from this emotion stuff. Which you are completely ignoring to call me mafia for a post that is not mafia at all.
Your tt is town spiel is absolutely redundant because your follow up lynch is vivax who was up for lynch at the time you made the tt post.
So you pretty much hard defended tt against no impending threat instead of just seeing your biggest scum read was actually the lynch and trying to get more people to vote for him.
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On June 28 2018 02:28 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:59 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work
Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote. I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me. I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now) when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing. If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way. I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him. You then provide no alternative. I actually hate this even more because until I changed my vote I think vivax was actually in the lead in votes.
Have you SEEN the vote thread? There's about 36396705 votes after the last vote count.
Sorry I didn't take the time to meticulously plot out who's voting where and how many votes XYZ has but it doesn't make me scum. It's not even remotely close to a reason to call me scum.
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HF pretty much summed up what I was already responding too... no need to write the same thing, but yea, I agree with HF. Just seems super odd when I started to push TT you come to defend him, he can defend himself, which he hasn't answer my questions yet.
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The thing about TT is that he has a thread presence but refuses to address direct concerns by specific people? He also keeps townleaning/townreading me through others, but never discusses anything with me.. bizarre!
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On June 28 2018 02:31 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 02:28 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 01:59 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work
Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote. I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me. I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now) when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing. If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way. I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him. You then provide no alternative. I actually hate this even more because until I changed my vote I think vivax was actually in the lead in votes. Have you SEEN the vote thread? There's about 36396705 votes after the last vote count. Sorry I didn't take the time to meticulously plot out who's voting where and how many votes XYZ has but it doesn't make me scum. It's not even remotely close to a reason to call me scum.
They're all on vivax and Shockey and you. Your two biggest scum reads and yourself. So why even make the tt post in the first place? What did you see that warranted you to go out of your way to say we should save him?
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On June 28 2018 02:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 02:27 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 02:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick. I would rather they confirm that themselves thanks. Calix could definitely be mafia for the tt post though too. Oh really? I've just followed my TT post up with two lynch alternatives plus discussion that's moving AWAY from this emotion stuff. Which you are completely ignoring to call me mafia for a post that is not mafia at all. Your tt is town spiel is absolutely redundant because your follow up lynch is vivax who was up for lynch at the time you made the tt post. So you pretty much hard defended tt against no impending threat instead of just seeing your biggest scum read was actually the lynch and trying to get more people to vote for him.
If there's only one vote between a TT and Vivax lynch like you say there is (I wouldn't know) then how is that 'no impending threat' exactly when thread sentiment is against TT still?
And you're basically arguing that I went in, KNOWING who was the lynch...and then pretended I didn't? For no reason? Knowing that someone could call me out?
Have you considered that maybe I just DIDN'T know and it wasn't part of a master plan?
And I am trying to get people to focus on my other scum-reads so saying I haven't provided an alternative is objectively false.
This push is really weak, HF ngl.
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On June 28 2018 02:34 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 02:30 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 02:27 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 02:25 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare, the hydra is not mafia.
Calix is though.
Make your pick. I would rather they confirm that themselves thanks. Calix could definitely be mafia for the tt post though too. Oh really? I've just followed my TT post up with two lynch alternatives plus discussion that's moving AWAY from this emotion stuff. Which you are completely ignoring to call me mafia for a post that is not mafia at all. Your tt is town spiel is absolutely redundant because your follow up lynch is vivax who was up for lynch at the time you made the tt post. So you pretty much hard defended tt against no impending threat instead of just seeing your biggest scum read was actually the lynch and trying to get more people to vote for him. If there's only one vote between a TT and Vivax lynch like you say there is (I wouldn't know) then how is that 'no impending threat' exactly when thread sentiment is against TT still? And you're basically arguing that I went in, KNOWING who was the lynch...and then pretended I didn't? For no reason? Knowing that someone could call me out? Have you considered that maybe I just DIDN'T know and it wasn't part of a master plan? And I am trying to get people to focus on my other scum-reads so saying I haven't provided an alternative is objectively false. This push is really weak, HF ngl.
When did I ever say there was one vote difference? Wtf?
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My point is that you may have in fact not known who was up for lynch because mafia don't give a shit who is up for lynch as long as they are not mafia. You could have seen sentiment pointing towards tt and thought you needed to produce some content and that was a free post to make.
You didn't count on expert scum hunter hf finding you and picking that post apart though.
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If there is actually one vote difference btw i might just lynch you off of that alone.
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