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Idk why you dont think vivax is mafia though. 
Just murder calix the obvscum pls.
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On June 28 2018 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shockeyy dumbtold him as town.
Holyflare, regfan is not mafia i can say it wirh 100% confidence.
Shockey did not dumb tell himself town. He's said it was a "trap" to bait mafia.
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Tictock’s unlynchable bit bothered me and then he chooses to completely ignore the fact that I wasn’t trying to actually policy you and make up some crap about how I perceive you when playing together, and pins that as why I pushed you for the greater half of day1, which is just a flat out lie. I don’t see the reason for town anyone to misrepresent something I clarified about and then disseminate false information. It wasn’t even a mistake of misreading my filter, it was pulled out of thin air.
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On June 28 2018 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:Idk why you dont think vivax is mafia though. Just murder calix the obvscum pls.
Why not help me "bus" Vivax instead? lmao.
You'd have an actual chance of hitting mafia then and since you think Vivax and I are like, totes mafia together then it should make zero difference to you, yeah?
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On June 28 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:05 Regfan wrote:On June 28 2018 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Can we get some kind of paraphrasing of your conversations together and the medium through which you communicated each reg/gemma? Discord. And no, I really can't be bothered. I'm too tired and worn out by this shitty game. You can read our filter if you want to know what our reads are, our chats are just those in short form. If you can't already tell that we're town then getting a paraphrase of our talks together isn't going to help you. -G I also don't like this. It would quite succinctly tie up your alignment for me if you could do it. It really shouldn't be hard either because you just have a history log on discord right?  Why is the game shitty when you seem to have narrowed a quite substantial town list down?
Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.
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On June 28 2018 01:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Shockeyy dumbtold him as town.
Holyflare, regfan is not mafia i can say it wirh 100% confidence. Shockey did not dumb tell himself town. He's said it was a "trap" to bait mafia.
It doesnt make any sense as mafia anyways. Like do you think he expected this?
No time to explain, please think for a while.
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On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work
Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote. I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me. I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now) when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing. If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way.
I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him.
You then provide no alternative.
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On June 28 2018 01:58 Conversion wrote:
Tictock’s unlynchable bit bothered me and then he chooses to completely ignore the fact that I wasn’t trying to actually policy you and make up some crap about how I perceive you when playing together, and pins that as why I pushed you for the greater half of day1, which is just a flat out lie. I don’t see the reason for town anyone to misrepresent something I clarified about and then disseminate false information. It wasn’t even a mistake of misreading my filter, it was pulled out of thin air.
I'm assuming this is in response to me (since I asked why TT was scummy) but you're talking about HF here with the 'playing together' part so I'm a bit confused ^^ Do you mind finding the quotes you're referring to?
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On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 01:05 Regfan wrote:On June 28 2018 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Can we get some kind of paraphrasing of your conversations together and the medium through which you communicated each reg/gemma? Discord. And no, I really can't be bothered. I'm too tired and worn out by this shitty game. You can read our filter if you want to know what our reads are, our chats are just those in short form. If you can't already tell that we're town then getting a paraphrase of our talks together isn't going to help you. -G I also don't like this. It would quite succinctly tie up your alignment for me if you could do it. It really shouldn't be hard either because you just have a history log on discord right? Why is the game shitty when you seem to have narrowed a quite substantial town list down? Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.
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are you a schizophrenic person?
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On June 27 2018 23:55 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 19:28 Regfan wrote:Really difficult to actually get a read on Conversion here since his HF push/scum-read looks to be entirely based on some OGI-esque type grudge or a joke-push that he's just maintained for the sheer majority of the day phase. It has scum motivation in that they can hide behind a push that can easily be chalked up as less alignment indicative but ultimately neither of those things feel out of the question for a TL player to do as town. There's other reads/thoughts inside his ISO, some I can sort of follow, others I can't, really though, not a lot to actually get a solidish read on anywhere there. @Conversion - 1) Can you please just run through where your concern with HF stems from; what's he done here or previously that makes you think he's a worthy policy lynch type player? Can you also try and pull away from your issues with him as a person/player and run through what you think of his alignment in this game 2) How'd your dive into TT go, wouldn't mind you running through your stance on Vivax a little more for me, in #373, you mention you don't really think either him or Calix is mafia, I can follow your reasoning for not thinking they're a scum team there but I don't really see much more to it and removing him and throwing Shockwave/Koshi as your lynch pool feels fairly lazy. - R IMO you should just ignore Conversion re: HF. It is some sort of gruge, or more like he is just unwilling to try and read HF so just always assumes he is mafia and thinks the best play is to kill him first. And I'm not quoting it, but your next post about Rayn here reminded me of something in the Conv v Rayn shit fest that I want to check. Conversion is well know to rage when insulted (though he never has a problem throwing the insults himself), even to the extent that he got himself modkilled in his last game after blowing up about some bout of name calling or some such.
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On June 28 2018 01:58 Regfan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:38 Holyflare wrote:On June 28 2018 01:05 Regfan wrote:On June 28 2018 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Can we get some kind of paraphrasing of your conversations together and the medium through which you communicated each reg/gemma? Discord. And no, I really can't be bothered. I'm too tired and worn out by this shitty game. You can read our filter if you want to know what our reads are, our chats are just those in short form. If you can't already tell that we're town then getting a paraphrase of our talks together isn't going to help you. -G I also don't like this. It would quite succinctly tie up your alignment for me if you could do it. It really shouldn't be hard either because you just have a history log on discord right? Why is the game shitty when you seem to have narrowed a quite substantial town list down? Because it's fucking toxic, rayn made Regfan hate the game when he's trying to get back into mafia and find time to enjoy it again, I love Regfan and you have no idea how much that horseshit fucking pisses me off it's actually unbelievable how insensitive rayn and his girlfriend have been towards Reg. Not to mention half the players have just been insulting us for our playstyle. So yeah it's a shitty game.
I don't really understand what rayn did to annoy him at all to be honest. Your playstyle is good but it's just the fact you're a hydra that people are "annoyed" about (I'm pretty sure only mocsta or rayn have even commented on this) since you're not playing like a hydra, you are just two players posting from one account.
There have been toxic moments, yeah, and I apologise on behalf of the rest of us but please try to indulge the non toxic people and do what I ask since then you're pretty much confirmed in that case.
If you don't then I'm forced to believe this is all an emotional act just to get me to not mafia read you because all your discord chat is just fabricated.
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Regfan you should never ever play with this Gemma person again.
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On June 28 2018 01:59 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2018 01:54 Calix wrote:On June 28 2018 00:44 CopCake wrote:
Before I forget because I am going to work
Ticktok’s suddenly change of heart on calix was pretty strange. Like if he knew from the beggining Calix was like a “Super God” playing mafia why didnt he say thay since the beggining? It would give me another background. I also didnt like his smooth talk of “appeal to emotion” towards wanting me to change my vote. I'm not a god-tier mafia player though, lol. I don't know how TT has that impression of me. I don't want to lynch TT and don't like how that might become an alternative to myself + Show Spoiler +(this is based on my impressions of the thread: I actually have no idea who is the lynch right now) when there aren't any compelling reasons to kill him from what I remember. What I mean is that I've seen a lot of anti-TT posts but I can't actually remember many of them and the ones I can remember weren't convincing. If one of the people scum-reading him wants to explain why he's mafia or make an actual case instead of unremarkable one-liners then I'll try hearing you out. But right now, no way. I could lynch you for this post to be honest. Not only do you exclaim to not even know who is up for lynch (it's TT and yourself) but then you full on defend TT for absolutely no reason when you don't even know if he has votes or the reason for lynching him. You then provide no alternative.
I don't. Last vote count was ages ago and I haven't checked votes yet.
I've been town-reading TT for ages and yes, I want to know why he's being considered as an alternative to myself. Because if it's TT vs Calix then that's TvT IMO.
I'm not sure why Vivax isn't being voted off here despite a lot of people calling him scummy.
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On June 28 2018 01:58 Conversion wrote:
Tictock’s unlynchable bit bothered me and then he chooses to completely ignore the fact that I wasn’t trying to actually policy you and make up some crap about how I perceive you when playing together, and pins that as why I pushed you for the greater half of day1, which is just a flat out lie. I don’t see the reason for town anyone to misrepresent something I clarified about and then disseminate false information. It wasn’t even a mistake of misreading my filter, it was pulled out of thin air.
Thanks. I accept this.
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On June 27 2018 22:17 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 22:08 Calix wrote:On June 27 2018 22:04 ShoCkeyy wrote:Vivax, why can't it not be something they do? If he claims he can't die, there's only two reasons, he's a role, or he's mafia. There's a 50/50 chance, and if he doesn't die tonight, does that increase the likely hood he is mafia? So let me put it in easier terms, math. If there is three mafia shots, three town will die at night + the mislynch leaving us in a really bad spot for tomorrow. If there is two mafia shots, we're still in a bad spot for this next lynch and the following lynch after will really be the game breaker. If there is one mafia shot, we have three cycles to play. If he's already claiming something, then I rather take it as mafia who has a solid chance of surviving all three cycles if he's "unlynchable". On June 27 2018 21:47 Calix wrote:
Another bad post, eh? ^^
Since when did you very conveniently and opportunistically decide to scum-read me, may I ask? And for what reason?
That paragraph about AFKs being more likely town and rambling about the game starting date is filler.
Your town-read on Vivax is based on a very flimsy pre-flip association which will crumple like a house of cards. Do you have any substantial reason to town-read this guy? My town read is because Vivax town read you early into the game, and you've only been trying to get him lynched, which is even odder to me since it's both you and Tictock pushing for Vivax without any dialogue happening between you too. Huh? Mafia can't shoot multiple people in a night. I don't see how trying to lynch someone who TOWN-READS me is scummy since that means I'm trying to vote off someone who isn't going to vote for me...at a time when I'm being discussed as a lynch candidate. In no world does that make me mafia. TT is American iirc, I'm from the UK. We're not usually on at the same time ^^ How do you know they can't shoot multiple times? it doesn't say it in the rules, it just says this: Option A - 1 blue role , 9 vanilla town, 3 vanilla mafia Option B - 2 blue role , 8 vanilla town, 1 mafia roleblocker, 2 vanilla mafia Either two vanilla, or three vanilla, and from the Role PM, it seems like all three can shoot. You probably didn't check because it will be handed to you through mafia QT... along where you and Tictock maybe conversing even though you're on "different" time zones.
Ehhh, feels fake that you use this to continue to push your scumread on Calix.
It is a perfectly reasonable assumption that mafia only get one shot at night as that is the TL Mafia standard. This is something you know, so this just looks like you are slinging anything you can without actually evaluating it.
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On June 28 2018 01:50 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 21:43 ShoCkeyy wrote:I think Vivax is town, after reading convos between Tictock and Calix... Who btw barely even talk to each other in the thread other than "I didn't like your case against Cake".It stars with Calix here: On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.
What up peeps Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz? What I've found in past games is that afkers are usually town, and away, since they don't have a huge role in the game, they tend to just sit back, watch, and post when needed. And also honestly, I've notice way more mafia trying to lynch into afk towns, than anything. I would understand the afkers too because I thought the game was starting Tuesday. Not Monday night, so I had to play a large catch up as part of it. here Calix still trying to put blame on afker's, low post count trying to lynch them off, or Vivax, who is starting to look more town after each post because of the interactions between Tictock and Calix. On June 27 2018 20:15 Calix wrote:
I'm as good as rayn and HF? Since when? lmao
Anyway I've skimmed the thread. I'm making the executive decision to largely ignore the TWO (!!!) giant cases against me since I'll be working for most of the day and putting me on the defense near EOD is a really bad idea. I'll be around for EOD though so I can do some filter-diving and give reads then ^^
Also Regfan goes up a notch for being sensible, looking into things and discouraging that dumb fight or whatever you'd call it between Tictock and Mocsta (while Mocsta's case was pretty bad, it's not mafia-terrible, I don't think).
Regfan also realises that, in a game where about 1/3 of the players aren't actually playing, lynching someone who is playing on D1 is suboptimal.
Yes, yes, this argument is really self-serving but it's not wrong so you should probably just do it.
In a normal game, this would be the part where I tell you who the best lynch is but I would be lying if I said I had any preference. Sure, I can analyse Koshi/ ShoCkeyy/ Vivax or whine about how terrible it is that two players haven't posted yet. But I don't think it's possible to accurately assess players with such low post counts so I don't see the point of wasting time by pretending to do so. I could lynch literally any of them right now and my thoughts are probably not changing until they actually start doing stuff. Then tictock's reasoning of not "voting for Cilax" On June 27 2018 14:00 Tictock wrote:
I think I am also just pretty against lynching Calix today.
I still a bit of sus on her, but her play as the day has gone on has left me feeling like their is a solid chance she could be town here still.
Even if I was still toying with the idea of Calix being in my working Mafia team (which is purely just to keep my imagination going, I don't actually think I have a good chance at pinging the entire team D1), I would probably advocate against her lynch today as she is a bad player to lynch D1.
Honestly I really want to push town to do the smart thing for once D1 and kill off someone like Shokey or Koshi. Boxer deserves something worse than a lynch for signing up with an exclamation right before the game starts then not posting for most of D1 (assuming he does post and nothing truly terrible happened to him).
I also think Vivax is probably a fine lynch, and want more people to relook at Mocsta again since he's fresh on my mind now. Possibly lynching off a teammate d1 won't work for him, so yea let's go for the afkers or Vivax the well known town... I'm sorry, what? You need to explain to me this Vivax is solid town read, because you just loosely frame it as being evident because of interaction between me and Calix? Makes no sense
Not until you answer my question.
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Can we save the personal drama for the post-game please? Or take it to PMs? Or PM the host? Or literally anything other than talking about it in a mafia game?
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