[M]Chill Hop Mafia - Page 15

On June 26 2018 12:41 Regfan wrote:

Man, it's really strange to have a townie say that their own body of work is non-existent, especially when it isn't. I mean, sure, you've only made 3-4 "serious" posts, but that's still a body of work and I don't get why your response to someone having an opinion on you is that they shouldn't have an opinion on you. Like, if you're scumreading us, that kind of doubt about our read on you would make sense, but I don't think you are. I also don't entirely know why you expect that an example will change that.

On the other hand, I guess I like your approach to getting content from separate heads.

Anyway, I don't really understand your process, and your tone is pretty incongruent. You're swinging between this low-effort type posting and these super formal and robotic posts and I don't understand how your brain is bending like that. Here's an example for you.


I don't understand why you made this post when you did. There's nothing wrong with making delayed comments on things, or not responding to everything right away, and I'm not reading into that, but I think it's strange that you weren't really engaging with anything that was going on at the time, and instead making posts about these other things, in a way that doesn't feel to me like you were compelled to respond to them because they just itched at you, if that makes sense. You're like, fiddling around. Which is fine, if that's genuinely your process, but right now I don't understand it.

My concerns with you are more of a "niggle" than anything, but when I see mafia make posts like these, it's because they're not able to find a real or fluid foothold in thread discussion, and fall back on making "look at me thinking about the game" type posts that don't really go anywhere or accomplish anything and lack a kind of underlying emotional drive to them, which is the feeling I've had about your posts so far.

On June 26 2018 12:41 Mocsta wrote:
i find it startling that given all that has occured jn the thread. That i am of your primary concern.

I suspect if you town we are at an impasse.

Im not going to share all my thoights on this game. Only those i think thatvare relevant or those i am asked about and care to share.

If you doubt my intention i would expect you to probe me on why i acted a certain way. Instead you arensoliciting other opinion.
Frankly this comes across to me as suspect. Puppeteer behind the curtain type stuff.

I dont think my past games will help much either. I entered this game with diffeerent jntebtions to others and so far think i am living up to them.

If you must know and have not realiaed. I was suspicious of cupcake because he toom such an early strong stance.
This is reflected in my posts....

On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:

(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote

(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.

(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.

(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.

(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty.

On June 26 2018 23:43 Holyflare wrote:




Of all the posts cake has made I think this is even one of her more towny ones. How does mafia say they think they should be town read by someone?

Odd filter vivax. Don't like.

On June 26 2018 23:48 CopCake wrote:
I dont think I have been confusing at all this game so quit that bullshit to have a null read on me HF. If I was so confusing people like TT or Mocca wouldnt have followed my process of thinking.

I dont know if there is a seer or not, I read the rules and it said there is like a cop and a roleblocker as much depending of the set up. But Alas, I took regfan’s silly post as that, silly because I dont think someone “smart” would do that and expect to be taken seriously, it was obvious a meme post lr some shit. (Which was already verified that is a copy pasta by regfan)

Either way, I think that is easy to deduce and no one should have felt offended like rayn and I think HF did.

Regfan’s first post is NOT town or mafia indicative.

Now I am gonna post for ##Calix

Reasons later but the principal is how calix came out of nowhere to build a case.

What was the post that made you think I was mafia and made you take the effort to filter me Calix? 🤭

On June 26 2018 23:48 CopCake wrote:
I dont think I have been confusing at all this game so quit that bullshit to have a null read on me HF. If I was so confusing people like TT or Mocca wouldnt have followed my process of thinking.

I dont know if there is a seer or not, I read the rules and it said there is like a cop and a roleblocker as much depending of the set up. But Alas, I took regfan’s silly post as that, silly because I dont think someone “smart” would do that and expect to be taken seriously, it was obvious a meme post lr some shit. (Which was already verified that is a copy pasta by regfan)

Either way, I think that is easy to deduce and no one should have felt offended like rayn and I think HF did.

Regfan’s first post is NOT town or mafia indicative.

Now I am gonna post for ##Calix

Reasons later but the principal is how calix came out of nowhere to build a case.

What was the post that made you think I was mafia and made you take the effort to filter me Calix? 🤭

On June 26 2018 23:53 Holyflare wrote:
It's weak-ish but enough for me to back off him.

On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:

- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.

On June 27 2018 00:12 Tictock wrote:


Not sure this is AI, but this is your recollection of me based on that bastard game where You, me, and DF got our own QT and I convinced myself you were mafia based off the ring nonsense the hosts threw at us?

I'm just not sure I've ever seen anyone describe my playstyle like this before.

...

Heh, it just now strikes me that we are both referring to this as "not sure if AI", lol.

On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:


I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia.

I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago.

Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through.

On June 27 2018 00:10 Mocsta wrote:
fyi

Its not redundant to me


Im heavily a heuristic is true until proven false player

I have no fear to partially out that tell because in my mind at least you cant fabricate ehat im looking for as mafia.

Regardless vivax is painful yo read and showing none if his town laser focus

Im happy between calix and vivax for a vote

Nite 4 realz now

On June 27 2018 00:10 Holyflare wrote:
So your scum read is just.... Rayn?

On June 27 2018 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
And the only reason cop isn't mafia is because rayn/copcake doesn't make sense together???

On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:

ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying.
this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia.