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On June 27 2018 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:
(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote
(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.
(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.
(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.
(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty. I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia. I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago. Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through. ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying. this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia. Why is it annoying rather than him just being town? It is not about Mocsta, it's because i was starting to think you are town and now i don't know. Where ever does Holyflare completely discard a post where a person says "i am gonna lay off from my scumread" and then end the post with "this is still basically my top scumread"? I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it? I like it? Why don't you? Why do you like him saying he isn't sure but still hasn't got anything better to offer? Once again, this isn't about Mocsta for me. You call him mafia every game regardless of his affiliation for the stuff he says that is irrational or "irrational". Why are you so agreeable now?
I've never said I didn't like it? What are you talking about?
I like him saying he isn't sure but has nothing better to offer because it mimics what I've been thinking. There's a lot of posts but there was nothing standing out at the time as overtly scummy. Lots of things to comment on but nothing to go ahead with.
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On June 26 2018 21:13 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.
What up peeps Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz? small thing But if calix is mafia. Its not with tictock
On June 26 2018 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 21:13 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 08:06 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 08:05 Tictock wrote:
Well nothing to do but pretend like I am working and play this instead.
What up peeps Sup, long time no see. Fancy randomly bandwagoning some AFK person for the lulz? small thing But if calix is mafia. Its not with tictock Actually when Holyflare made his post on tictock i tried to think about that quite a bit and i wouldn't be so certain of that. Grackaroni and FF once completely fooled me with some dumb "early game alliance" just like that.
You guys should stop trying to call me mafia, I already told you I'm unlynchable this game.
Unfortunately I'm getting too distracted with this game and need to actually work, so will have to finish catching up later.
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On June 27 2018 00:38 Vivax wrote:I don't know might take a guess later. Why is this relevant?
Because you implied i am mafia (idk i might be wrong here but you still did), and now your top scumread is my top townread and you have nothing to say about it and instead of that you wanna discuss some nonsense about Holyflare.
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On June 27 2018 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:
(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote
(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.
(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.
(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.
(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty. I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia. I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago. Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through. ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying. this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia. Why is it annoying rather than him just being town? It is not about Mocsta, it's because i was starting to think you are town and now i don't know. Where ever does Holyflare completely discard a post where a person says "i am gonna lay off from my scumread" and then end the post with "this is still basically my top scumread"? I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it? I like it? Why don't you? Why do you like him saying he isn't sure but still hasn't got anything better to offer? Once again, this isn't about Mocsta for me. You call him mafia every game regardless of his affiliation for the stuff he says that is irrational or "irrational". Why are you so agreeable now? Wait HF can you be more specific how you perceive that specific post of Mocsta's
How can I be more specific???
Mocsta looked scummy because he gave me a get out of jail free card and scum read regfan (who I thought looked not bad).
I start to write a post while catching up about mocsta being mafia but I look at the next few posts and he had reevaluated that read and given a list post.
I read the list post and his reevaluation on regfan was good because :
Nobody was saying anything against mocsta scum reading reg
He acknowledges his points weren't the best
Then he makes a good commentary on what I pretty much think about the rest of the players in the game.
Thus I let mocsta off and wanted to see more from him before starting a shit fight and calling him mafia all over again.
I'd say light town read at a stretch.
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On June 27 2018 00:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:38 Vivax wrote:On June 27 2018 00:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax am i town or mafia? I don't know might take a guess later. Why is this relevant? Because you implied i am mafia (idk i might be wrong here but you still did), and now your top scumread is my top townread and you have nothing to say about it and instead of that you wanna discuss some nonsense about Holyflare.
The only thing I implied is that you failed to see a post for what it was. Apparently it's YOUR thought that it makes you mafia when you do that. Which gives me to think.
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On June 27 2018 00:35 Tictock wrote:
Not a fan of Calix's case on Cake. Partially kus I think Cake is almost lock town for me.
Her points feel more nitpickey than insightful though, like she isn't sure how or what to address in the game. Her first point is weak as both Town and Mafia can ask weak questions, and I disagree that Cake hasn't done anything to advance the game. She has clearly given her own opinions and seems to be openly weighing in on things.
I think I need Calix to give better examples of what she means by Cake making excuses for others kus I don't know what she is referring too.
The pointing out inactives stuff is weak as well. I've seen both mafia and town do this so it is not very AI. The point would be stronger if that was ALL cake had posted, but it is far from the only thought Cake has presented so I find this pretty underwhelming.
Kinda disappointed, I think Calix likely rolled mafia this game and is struggling with her time constraints. Was hoping to play with her as town.
Well you are pretty much the only person who has actually discussed the case (aside from HF calling it mediocre) so we can like, talk about it.
I think CopCake is doing stuff now but at the time, I got the vibe she was blending in and throwing out town-reads and not really doing much.
By excuses, I meant 'rationalising away other people's actions as coming from town' which I didn't like because it looked like she already knew they were being genuine.
I also hate your last line and not because it's mafia-indicative but because it means that yet ANOTHER person is not willing to work with me -___-
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I'm going to gut read call calix town 
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She's oddly non-caustic this game
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On June 27 2018 00:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:
(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote
(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.
(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.
(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.
(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty. I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia. I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago. Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through. ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying. this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia. Why is it annoying rather than him just being town? It is not about Mocsta, it's because i was starting to think you are town and now i don't know. Where ever does Holyflare completely discard a post where a person says "i am gonna lay off from my scumread" and then end the post with "this is still basically my top scumread"? I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it? I like it? Why don't you? Why do you like him saying he isn't sure but still hasn't got anything better to offer? Once again, this isn't about Mocsta for me. You call him mafia every game regardless of his affiliation for the stuff he says that is irrational or "irrational". Why are you so agreeable now? Wait HF can you be more specific how you perceive that specific post of Mocsta's How can I be more specific??? Mocsta looked scummy because he gave me a get out of jail free card and scum read regfan (who I thought looked not bad). I start to write a post while catching up about mocsta being mafia but I look at the next few posts and he had reevaluated that read and given a list post. I read the list post and his reevaluation on regfan was good because :
Nobody was saying anything against mocsta scum reading reg
He acknowledges his points weren't the bestThen he makes a good commentary on what I pretty much think about the rest of the players in the game. Thus I let mocsta off and wanted to see more from him before starting a shit fight and calling him mafia all over again. I'd say light town read at a stretch.
The problem is he "acknowledges his points are bad " but then calls Regfan "most likely mafia" once again for the same points.
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On June 27 2018 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:45 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 14:59 Mocsta wrote:
Following a re-read:
(1) I was perhaps a touch OMGUS towards Regfan. I dont think this is the best place for a vote so ##Unvote
(2) i don't have a strong opinion on game state. If anything, the activity and content has been really good.
- Things like HF read fine to me.
- Rayn play so far, is highly reminiscent of the game just finished. If i had to call one player town, it would be Rayn.
(3) Things I am uncertain of with low care factor
- Conversion: purely a heuristic where after such a long self-ban. I thought he would be itching to do more than just throw some randoms hit around.
- Tictock: because whilst I liked the later posts, it is still not reminding me of the last game I played with him where I vividly remember him as this guy that is all about "accuracy" and his "own logical model". In fairness, the environment of the game state is somewhat different, so im still battling whether this is alignment indicative or not.
(4) Things I am uncertain of with moderate care factor (Calix + CopCake).
- Calix: for the reasons already expressed in the thread. Which will be easy to prove/disprove once active.
- CopCake: has some early exchanges that on a second read I took as pocketing. I need to think about this more, but is just giving me some vibes of things that I personally try to do when mafia.
(5) I still think Regfan are focused heavily on things that I don't think are important to scum hunting; and definitely are giving a different weighting to things early game than myself. But this doesn't make them mafia. I am struggling with reading the hydra pairing somewhat as I find them DRASTICALLY different. Even if they were mafia, I would rather lynch them as the second or third because of that uncertainty. I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia. I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago. Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through. ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying. this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia. Why is it annoying rather than him just being town? It is not about Mocsta, it's because i was starting to think you are town and now i don't know. Where ever does Holyflare completely discard a post where a person says "i am gonna lay off from my scumread" and then end the post with "this is still basically my top scumread"? I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it? I like it? Why don't you? Why do you like him saying he isn't sure but still hasn't got anything better to offer? Once again, this isn't about Mocsta for me. You call him mafia every game regardless of his affiliation for the stuff he says that is irrational or "irrational". Why are you so agreeable now? Wait HF can you be more specific how you perceive that specific post of Mocsta's How can I be more specific??? Mocsta looked scummy because he gave me a get out of jail free card and scum read regfan (who I thought looked not bad). I start to write a post while catching up about mocsta being mafia but I look at the next few posts and he had reevaluated that read and given a list post. I read the list post and his reevaluation on regfan was good because :
Nobody was saying anything against mocsta scum reading reg
He acknowledges his points weren't the bestThen he makes a good commentary on what I pretty much think about the rest of the players in the game. Thus I let mocsta off and wanted to see more from him before starting a shit fight and calling him mafia all over again. I'd say light town read at a stretch. The problem is he "acknowledges his points are bad " but then calls Regfan "most likely mafia" once again for the same points.
I'm not gonna pretend like I remember what mocsta's original points were because I don't really. Have I been bamboozled?
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On June 27 2018 00:50 Vivax wrote:
She's oddly non-caustic this game
Actually no, seems fairly caustic on a reread, just not towards me for now.
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Very caustic, sheepable case on cop too.
I'd agree on calix being town here.
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On June 27 2018 00:56 Vivax wrote:
Very caustic, sheepable case on cop too.
I'd agree on calix being town here.
![[image loading]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9d/Jeans_pocket_back.jpg/1200px-Jeans_pocket_back.jpg)
You're one of the few people who thinks I'm town. And you think my case is sheepable when nobody else does.
So what parts of the case did you find good exactly?
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On June 27 2018 00:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:45 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:28 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 27 2018 00:18 Holyflare wrote:On June 27 2018 00:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 26 2018 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
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I was ready to scum read mocsta for his "redundant post" and because he scum read regfan who looked quite not scummy but then he made this post. I think the regfan reevaluation is really towny since nobody was countering his arguments and there's no need to posture that regfan could be town if mocsta was mafia.
I also didn't have a strong lean on anyone else really and most of what he says here echos what I just said a few posts ago.
Just the points he says to look into slowly started going from opposite of what I was thinking to converging to my skim through. ugggghhhhhhhhhhh........ this is annoying. this is probably the only post i can see mocsta making as mafia. Why is it annoying rather than him just being town? It is not about Mocsta, it's because i was starting to think you are town and now i don't know. Where ever does Holyflare completely discard a post where a person says "i am gonna lay off from my scumread" and then end the post with "this is still basically my top scumread"? I mean, he doesn't. He just acknowledges that his initial points were shit and then makes the point you've been repeating that the hydra heads don't align in their thoughts. So why don't you like it? I like it? Why don't you? Why do you like him saying he isn't sure but still hasn't got anything better to offer? Once again, this isn't about Mocsta for me. You call him mafia every game regardless of his affiliation for the stuff he says that is irrational or "irrational". Why are you so agreeable now? Wait HF can you be more specific how you perceive that specific post of Mocsta's How can I be more specific??? Mocsta looked scummy because he gave me a get out of jail free card and scum read regfan (who I thought looked not bad). I start to write a post while catching up about mocsta being mafia but I look at the next few posts and he had reevaluated that read and given a list post. I read the list post and his reevaluation on regfan was good because :
Nobody was saying anything against mocsta scum reading reg
He acknowledges his points weren't the bestThen he makes a good commentary on what I pretty much think about the rest of the players in the game. Thus I let mocsta off and wanted to see more from him before starting a shit fight and calling him mafia all over again. I'd say light town read at a stretch. The problem is he "acknowledges his points are bad " but then calls Regfan "most likely mafia" once again for the same points. I'm not gonna pretend like I remember what mocsta's original points were because I don't really. Have I been bamboozled?
It is literally 4 posts above the one you liked so much.
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Calix and Vivax are like fucking super obvious mafia lol.
##vote Calix
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On June 27 2018 00:59 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:56 Vivax wrote:
Very caustic, sheepable case on cop too.
I'd agree on calix being town here. You're one of the few people who thinks I'm town. And you think my case is sheepable when nobody else does. So what parts of the case did you find good exactly?
the end of the post
jk
the talking about irrelevant things and tmi thingies
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that's opne ugly ass picture btw
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On June 27 2018 01:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2018 00:59 Calix wrote:On June 27 2018 00:56 Vivax wrote:
Very caustic, sheepable case on cop too.
I'd agree on calix being town here. You're one of the few people who thinks I'm town. And you think my case is sheepable when nobody else does. So what parts of the case did you find good exactly? the end of the post jk the talking about irrelevant things and tmi thingies
Ha.
Do you think CopCake's recent posts have been scummy and if so, why? Because some of them mitigate my earlier points IMO.
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the next time you google pocket make it come with an aesthetically pleasing butt
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Once I read the thread I'll sheep rayn.
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