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On June 26 2018 22:49 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 22:38 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 22:28 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 21:19 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 08:09 Tictock wrote:
Meh, don't see the point when that is literally everyone but us atm.
Ask me again in an hour...
Actually n/m, pointless voting is pointless. I'll prob find some actual work to do. hf Reading this agaib.. i can sorta see tixtock writing the strike as a joke. Realising its stupid so writes the next part but decides to strike as he personally thinks ita funny But it's not funny and that's my point. If it's a joke it's trying too hard to blend in. If it's real it's unnatural. Just feels wrong no matter what to me. Do you have any other reads? You're bringing up TT a lot to try and explain what's essentially a tone read but without really pushing it, adding new reasons, looking at the bigger picture, etc, so I am curious. I think you're scummy and Vivax too since he created more discussion about the "pointless post" and made absolutely no conclusions on it. Regfan towny, mocsta looks not bad like last game, rayn also not bad. Cop I will never read anything other than confusing. Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said. No idea who else is in the game really so my reads are super weak. Why am I scummy exactly? I agree Vivax's post is bad. And how so re: Conversion?
I think your original push on cop wasn't great and was pushed on really mediocre points too hard. I don't like how you kept it up while rayn was disproving it either. It feels like you're grumpy that you shouldn't be pushing copcake anymore rather than pleased it gets rid of a confusing person.
You're more concerned with how you look than figuring out.
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On June 26 2018 22:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 22:49 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 22:38 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 22:28 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 21:19 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 08:09 Tictock wrote:
Meh, don't see the point when that is literally everyone but us atm.
Ask me again in an hour...
Actually n/m, pointless voting is pointless. I'll prob find some actual work to do. hf Reading this agaib.. i can sorta see tixtock writing the strike as a joke. Realising its stupid so writes the next part but decides to strike as he personally thinks ita funny But it's not funny and that's my point. If it's a joke it's trying too hard to blend in. If it's real it's unnatural. Just feels wrong no matter what to me. Do you have any other reads? You're bringing up TT a lot to try and explain what's essentially a tone read but without really pushing it, adding new reasons, looking at the bigger picture, etc, so I am curious. I think you're scummy and Vivax too since he created more discussion about the "pointless post" and made absolutely no conclusions on it. Regfan towny, mocsta looks not bad like last game, rayn also not bad. Cop I will never read anything other than confusing. Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said. No idea who else is in the game really so my reads are super weak. Why am I scummy exactly? I agree Vivax's post is bad. And how so re: Conversion? I think your original push on cop wasn't great and was pushed on really mediocre points too hard. I don't like how you kept it up while rayn was disproving it either. It feels like you're grumpy that you shouldn't be pushing copcake anymore rather than pleased it gets rid of a confusing person. You're more concerned with how you look than figuring out.
How would I know CopCake is 'confusing'? I have no knowledge of her play.
With this in mind, I can't see how you concluded what you did. Especially the part about me caring how I look.
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On June 26 2018 22:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 22:49 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 22:46 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 22:38 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 22:28 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 21:19 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 08:09 Tictock wrote:
Meh, don't see the point when that is literally everyone but us atm.
Ask me again in an hour...
Actually n/m, pointless voting is pointless. I'll prob find some actual work to do. hf Reading this agaib.. i can sorta see tixtock writing the strike as a joke. Realising its stupid so writes the next part but decides to strike as he personally thinks ita funny But it's not funny and that's my point. If it's a joke it's trying too hard to blend in. If it's real it's unnatural. Just feels wrong no matter what to me. Do you have any other reads? You're bringing up TT a lot to try and explain what's essentially a tone read but without really pushing it, adding new reasons, looking at the bigger picture, etc, so I am curious. I think you're scummy and Vivax too since he created more discussion about the "pointless post" and made absolutely no conclusions on it. Regfan towny, mocsta looks not bad like last game, rayn also not bad. Cop I will never read anything other than confusing. Conversion is meh but I don't hate what he's said. No idea who else is in the game really so my reads are super weak. Why am I scummy exactly? I agree Vivax's post is bad. And how so re: Conversion? I think your original push on cop wasn't great and was pushed on really mediocre points too hard. I don't like how you kept it up while rayn was disproving it either. It feels like you're grumpy that you shouldn't be pushing copcake anymore rather than pleased it gets rid of a confusing person. You're more concerned with how you look than figuring out. classic town!hf
Me likey
And on that note. Good night
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Don't particularly care. It's obvious she is a confusing player just from reading her posts.
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On June 26 2018 22:52 Regfan wrote:
We look at different things and talk about things in different ways, but the overall way we look at the game and the reads we end up at are typically very very similar (and they have been this game, with a few little discrepancies because he has meta knowledge that I don't and he's in a better place mentally/emotionally than I am). I'm not sure why else you might feel like we've been disconnected, it feels to me like we've been talking out of each other's brains for the most part so far.
Actually going to sleep now.
-G
Well your reads on me and Mocsta aren't matching each other at all. I understand this might be due to you each other personally answering to posts regarding (and to) us, but i can't simply see why the other person does (or did) scumread us and the other one doesn't and where that has changed. Basically this post i believe sums up pretty close to your hydra's behavior especially regarding me and Mocsta throughtout the game so far:
On June 26 2018 12:23 Mocsta wrote:
The difference in play between you and gemma leans me mafia.
On June 26 2018 13:21 Mocsta wrote:
My recollection of regfan is lots of "process" nitpicking that leads nowhere
It is not necessarily scummy per se but like... playing as a hydra it is the easiest thing ever to prove your towniness by showing the thought process throughout two people and i don't just see any. It's like two different people playing acting as their own.
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That is the thing i mostly like about Mocsta, even more than the early ping on Calix post.
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oh I derped. Calix did answer me, and then her transition into the Copcake read was answering me. d'oh
On June 26 2018 10:31 CopCake wrote:
Also rayn I wouldnt take that post seriously (the huge lne) someone also said it is a copy paste?
Like he probably tried to be funny but failed, I mean no mafia would put effort to say “hey I am a seer?” When there is a real one so yeah.
This stood out to me because in the same sentence, she says it's a joke ('probably tried to be funny') but then also gives reasoning that implies Regfan is town for 'putting effort into claiming seer when there is a real seer'. I do not understand how she concludes that a 'meme' or 'joke post' makes someone town just because they put a lot of effort into it. Especially when she says straight afterwards that it is "probably a meme". The thought process seems a bit inconsistent here.
if your points didn't change, why is this a scum read? if anything it seems more town-indicative to make a statement such as "there is a real seer" when there isn't a "seer"
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On June 26 2018 22:52 Regfan wrote:
We look at different things and talk about things in different ways, but the overall way we look at the game and the reads we end up at are typically very very similar (and they have been this game, with a few little discrepancies because he has meta knowledge that I don't and he's in a better place mentally/emotionally than I am). I'm not sure why else you might feel like we've been disconnected, it feels to me like we've been talking out of each other's brains for the most part so far.
Actually going to sleep now.
-G
Furthermore, there is simply no meta knowledge Regfan has so far (since Slendy hasn't posted) other than on me and apparently that hasn't lead him nowhere. So i don't really know what you are talking about here.
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On June 26 2018 16:06 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 11:46 Conversion wrote:
@Calix explain why you are on the glorious train to victory by voting Holyflare Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 10:31 CopCake wrote:
Also rayn I wouldnt take that post seriously (the huge lne) someone also said it is a copy paste?
Like he probably tried to be funny but failed, I mean no mafia would put effort to say “hey I am a seer?” When there is a real one so yeah. This stood out to me because in the same sentence, she says it's a joke ('probably tried to be funny') but then also gives reasoning that implies Regfan is town for 'putting effort into claiming seer when there is a real seer'. I do not understand how she concludes that a 'meme' or 'joke post' makes someone town just because they put a lot of effort into it. Especially when she says straight afterwards that it is "probably a meme". The thought process seems a bit inconsistent here.
because I can't quote apparently
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On June 26 2018 23:15 Conversion wrote:
if your points didn't change, why is this a scum read? if anything it seems more town-indicative to make a statement such as "there is a real seer" when there isn't a "seer"
I didn't call her mafia for saying 'there is a real seer'. I was criticising the 'putting effort into a meme makes someone townie' implication ^^
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I also believe Regfan should have a read on me based on what i have posted. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, but still my point where you don't "act together" stands, still you go stuff like:
On June 26 2018 21:42 Regfan wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:I will tell you a secret. During work i went through every single mafia game i ever remember Cake playing on teamliquid and as mafia she has absolutely zero townreads during the first cycle. Literally zero.  I will tell you another secret, there is simply no reason to think Cake is mafia because she is mostly interested in my alignment or what i think her is. You could simply just go look at any game we have played together in in last years or so. Painting one question you can't understand (while you could just simply ask -- or go check) as "useless question S" is not only lazy as hell, it's also misconstruing the whole thing in the first place. Third secret. Who needs Gemma the seer when you have Calix the "i didn't really care to read anything much i just went to some random person's filter that btw doesn't make any sense to go to in the first place given the playerbase and hallelujah!! Every post was a mafia post!" yeah right. Looking for mafia or looking for a lynch? a) Cake never having made a townread during the first cycle isn't a reason to townread her in this game, that's such a copout way to townread someone and I don't understand how it's real. b) You aren't even explicitly saying that you do townread her or giving reasoning for townreading her, so much as saying there's no reason to scumread her. c) The way you're talking through this whole post as if your reads have already been thoroughly established, but they haven't, and there's a huge gulf of missing process where I have no idea where anything you're saying is coming from. It's like you've jumped into positioning yourself in a certain way that feels really forced. c) You're not talking about Calix as if you even think he's mafia. You're coming at this from sideways still, and it's like you're more interested in making Calix look stupid and bad than really scumreading him or actually analyzing anything he's doing. d) You completely ignored my posts on CopCake, despite apparently townreading her, which again makes me feel like you're not really interested in seriously digging into her alignment or approaching any of this honestly, so much as discrediting Calix's push on her. And Regfan just told me while I was writing this that you're dating CopCake, so that's a thing apparently. Don't think it really changes how I am reading this from you very much.
I find it hard to believe this is the only thing Regfan has to say about me at this point, like "yeah just push him if you think he is mafia". Like 60% hard or maybe a bit more. More like "let it be and let me see what it is when i am around" as town. It seems super super weird to me.
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On June 26 2018 23:19 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 23:15 Conversion wrote:
if your points didn't change, why is this a scum read? if anything it seems more town-indicative to make a statement such as "there is a real seer" when there isn't a "seer" I didn't call her mafia for saying 'there is a real seer'. I was criticising the 'putting effort into a meme makes someone townie' implication ^^
Except she never implied that.
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On June 26 2018 23:19 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 23:15 Conversion wrote:
if your points didn't change, why is this a scum read? if anything it seems more town-indicative to make a statement such as "there is a real seer" when there isn't a "seer" I didn't call her mafia for saying 'there is a real seer'. I was criticising the 'putting effort into a meme makes someone townie' implication ^^
We might be reading things differently, but CopCake's post to me seemed like she was saying more so that no mafia would ever posture that he/she is a seer, when there is a real seer.
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I agree with rayn in that I don't think that implication was there, I think she was literally saying things bluntly in that claiming seer when there is a real one is more town indicative.
Not that it's absolutely true that a mafia wouldn't fake claim as a joke, but I'm not seeing this implication that you are.
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On June 26 2018 23:26 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 23:19 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 23:15 Conversion wrote:
if your points didn't change, why is this a scum read? if anything it seems more town-indicative to make a statement such as "there is a real seer" when there isn't a "seer" I didn't call her mafia for saying 'there is a real seer'. I was criticising the 'putting effort into a meme makes someone townie' implication ^^ We might be reading things differently, but CopCake's post to me seemed like she was saying more so that no mafia would (realisticly) ever posture that he/she is a seer, when there is a real seer, (so the post is fake).
FTFY.
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On June 26 2018 18:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 11:34 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 11:25 CopCake wrote:On June 26 2018 11:21 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 10:58 CopCake wrote:
Am I town or am I mafia rayn? This question caught me off guard. If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia. Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator. Therefore, I find this exchange odd. Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask. But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar. Lol, the question is to make a better read on rayn.@Regfan that question is too early to ask since not everyone has posted but I would shot HF as mafia. I dont get his tt reasons. i dont understand how it leads to anything. If rayn calls you town, as either alignment, you will walk away feeling good about yaself. If rayn calls yo mafia, as either alignment, you will walk away with a sense of OMGUS. Dead question. Having said that, I do share suspicion towards Holyflare. Not enough to lean scum, but enough to pay extra attention to new content. Whether you agreed or not, at least to me, superfically, the Tictock stuff is fine. On the otherhand, whilst the strikethrough is more likely to be mafia than town in origin, its not conclusive and I find to be overly hammed up by HF. My expectation for a town!HF is for him to do his own campaigning. If he does this, even if its against me. I shall call him town. We will have to wait and see. What an utterly redundant post. I still think tt is mafia. I can't explain it to you other than the phrasing he is using seems overly wordy for the little points he is making which I don't usually feel like from tt.
How is his post redundant? Seems more like you see the words scum and HF too close by each other but say it's redundant to cover up that that's the real reason.
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On June 26 2018 23:26 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 23:19 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 23:15 Conversion wrote:
if your points didn't change, why is this a scum read? if anything it seems more town-indicative to make a statement such as "there is a real seer" when there isn't a "seer" I didn't call her mafia for saying 'there is a real seer'. I was criticising the 'putting effort into a meme makes someone townie' implication ^^ We might be reading things differently, but CopCake's post to me seemed like she was saying more so that no mafia would ever posture that he/she is a seer, when there is a real seer.
Wouldn't saying 'no mafia would ever do X' be saying that someone is townie for doing X since no mafia would do it and there are only two alignments?
I'm not sure why people are making a distinction between "no mafia would do X" and "someone is townie for doing X" since they're saying the same thing.
A lot of people are disagreeing with me on this so I am probably missing something obvious here xD
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On June 26 2018 23:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 23:26 Conversion wrote:On June 26 2018 23:19 Calix wrote:On June 26 2018 23:15 Conversion wrote:
if your points didn't change, why is this a scum read? if anything it seems more town-indicative to make a statement such as "there is a real seer" when there isn't a "seer" I didn't call her mafia for saying 'there is a real seer'. I was criticising the 'putting effort into a meme makes someone townie' implication ^^ We might be reading things differently, but CopCake's post to me seemed like she was saying more so that no mafia would (realisticly) ever posture that he/she is a seer, when there is a real seer, (so the post is fake). FTFY.
It actually makes even less sense if Cake thinks (or knows) there is a real seer (which she cannot know anyways) as mafia to make that set of posts.
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On June 26 2018 23:29 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 18:06 Holyflare wrote:On June 26 2018 11:34 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 11:25 CopCake wrote:On June 26 2018 11:21 Mocsta wrote:On June 26 2018 10:58 CopCake wrote:
Am I town or am I mafia rayn? This question caught me off guard. If anything, I was anticipating CopCake to declare Rayn: town or mafia. Clearly, the "early game' scum reads struck a chord with CopCake enough to contribute his/her independent thought process of those reads (e.g. Tictock). At minimum, I was expecting that thought process to follow through to the initiator. Therefore, I find this exchange odd. Yes its a dead question - which obviously town can ask. But i find it odd, because its a dead question to someone that I thought woudl be on CopCake radar. Lol, the question is to make a better read on rayn.@Regfan that question is too early to ask since not everyone has posted but I would shot HF as mafia. I dont get his tt reasons. i dont understand how it leads to anything. If rayn calls you town, as either alignment, you will walk away feeling good about yaself. If rayn calls yo mafia, as either alignment, you will walk away with a sense of OMGUS. Dead question. Having said that, I do share suspicion towards Holyflare. Not enough to lean scum, but enough to pay extra attention to new content. Whether you agreed or not, at least to me, superfically, the Tictock stuff is fine. On the otherhand, whilst the strikethrough is more likely to be mafia than town in origin, its not conclusive and I find to be overly hammed up by HF. My expectation for a town!HF is for him to do his own campaigning. If he does this, even if its against me. I shall call him town. We will have to wait and see. What an utterly redundant post. I still think tt is mafia. I can't explain it to you other than the phrasing he is using seems overly wordy for the little points he is making which I don't usually feel like from tt. How is his post redundant? Seems more like you see the words scum and HF too close by each other but say it's redundant to cover up that that's the real reason.
Are you actually just mafia then? This is a really weird post to pick out because not only does it make perfect sense why it's redundant but I've further explained why and also simultaneously stopped pushing mocsta for it.
It's redundant because for hypothetical sake say I'm town and mocsta is mafia and knows I'm town. His whole post is phrased as suspicion towards me but then gives me perfect information of how and what would change his mind. Why bother posting that if he's town and is suspicious of me? I either do it or don't and then you make a decision. This would just give me free info to be town read as mafia. Not very thought out and isn't something i think I'd personally post.
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On June 26 2018 22:40 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2018 11:16 CopCake wrote:
Rayn I am surprised I am not town to you 😞 scummy post
On June 26 2018 22:41 Vivax wrote:
ie thinking about perception of own alignment
##vote Copcake
Of all the posts cake has made I think this is even one of her more towny ones. How does mafia say they think they should be town read by someone?
Odd filter vivax. Don't like.
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