[M] Classic Mafia

On March 20 2018 09:39 Alakaslam wrote:

Sson it’s a new game

Get hip, you need to coarse grind your coffee

On March 20 2018 10:26 Tictock wrote:
Ohhh, Free town read to Slam for posting some elctro-swing. One of my fav's too!

Bah gotta post content, trying not to spam.

So far I've only got a few weak town reads, and some sus on Exo, Conversion, and maybe KSC.

Exo and Conv seem to be calling out scum reads just kus they feel like they need to. Either not explaining or posting bad reasons for their scum reads.

KSC just jumping on anything he can, but at least he gave some indications why.

On March 20 2018 10:42 Alakaslam wrote:

If he is scum on 3 posts that would be a godread sir.

10 or so? Epic read. 3? Godread. Especially those 3; I say NAI

On March 20 2018 11:21 Alakaslam wrote:

Sson u trolling, not even in the vote thread is it?

Ssssoooonnnnnnnnnnmmmm

On March 21 2018 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Conversion, "his posts are scummy" is not a very convincing case. You seem like you are way too comfortable abandoning your read like that for the greater good of town.

And rsoultin I don't mean to be rude but I'm used to see you be way more cautious about my alignment. I don't recall the last time you just were happy to townread me that easily.

On March 21 2018 01:25 Vivax wrote:


I'm getting a dejavu from last game cause that's what AMG said about tubesock last game during D1 and they were both town.

I don't think that you being ignored is a sufficient argument for him being mafia.

On March 21 2018 01:57 Holyflare wrote:


I take it back. Sorry.

Why do you feel the need to consolidate instead of push though?

On March 21 2018 05:40 KelsierSC wrote:
Darth , why is conversion not town anymore?

On March 21 2018 09:09 n00bKing wrote:

ONLY a town anyone wants players to find out how many mafia there are. lol

Obviously my early scum game would mimic my early town game, but I would NOT go so far as to actually try and generate a discussion of how many mafia are in the game, if it seems like the host hasn't said, and it seems like other people aren't bringing it up. If I were scum, I would prefer that the topic is never, EVER raised. The only scum agenda there could be behind the post I made is "try to look town, by damaging the scum agenda." But it's TOO damaging to the scum agenda, for how much town cred is bought by it. Net-negative, for any scum player to make that post. Only makes sense for town.

On March 21 2018 19:37 ExO_ wrote:
Holy shit can you guys chill out. I wake up to like 10 more pages of thread to read, why is it the activity picks up most when im sleeping.

Also, awake now!

On March 21 2018 22:12 rsoultin wrote:


Nope. And if you bothered to know what the fuck you were talking about you'd know I'd already done this.

Figure out the rest of your unknowns my ass.

On March 21 2018 19:15 rsoultin wrote:
And now I am going to pretty blatantly be a hypocrite and say that even though HF isn't all shiny for me, I'm also not seeing anything glaring that makes me think he could be scum. Tone tips it slightly towards town for me.

HF removed.

That leaves me with:

Palmar/Slam

Conversion, ff, sl

Hah!

I like that size much better. The chances that's the actual scum team is small, especially since Rels is just a ? and some of the other people in the not lynch list are there for light townreads, but I'm happy with that.

Although I do realize that means scum would be hardly playing. Then again, with these lynches lined up, if I'm right on at least those townreads, that's not all that unlikely really.

On March 21 2018 22:16 rsoultin wrote:


Explain why you don't understand them

On March 21 2018 23:59 disformation wrote:
so. now we have 5 votes on me and at least 2 ppl who mentioned maybe voting for me.

think that is approaching numbers, where I feel like there should be a scummer on there.
voters: hoshi, nk, KSC, rayn, HF
maybe voters: Conv, RS

hoshi: I think I get his scum read on me better now, since he explained that he initially voted for a small thing, but appears to not be a fan of my other posts. lines up with what hf said I guess. has done/attempted this play style as town a bunch of times before. can be a town lean.

nk: still somewhat pissed that he refuses to explain why he is voting me. outside of that he is looking a bit better by now. not a fan of his style though, still want to stick him somewhere in the scum spectrum of things till he explains that vote.

KSC: still think he is more likely town.

rayn: vote makes sense, but might be a fairly lazy hop onto this train. not a fan of his filter either. no impact no wham. somewhat hesitant cause seems to be busy, but I want to stick him on the scummier side of null or give him a scum lean. Def. lynch if he keeps having no impact.

hf: has the most fleshed out read on me and is not just hopping onto the train. so i like that. didnt do much before, but that is also not outside of his town meta. might be a bit early to call him town though, cause rest of his filter is meh. but def. not the worst passenger on this wagon.
also @hf, what happened to:

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rs: not sure why ppl say she is boring/underwhelming? or rather: at least looks like she is trying to figure stuff out. which makes her filter kinda better than hf/koshi/rayn filters? not sure what to think about her willingness to maybe vote me. concession to thread consensus building?
@Rels, @HF can you guys point out what exactly is like missing from her filter? is it a meta thing? dont think im seeing it, but i have horrible eye sight.
conv: early consolidation comment could have been to hold/create that option for him. also still basically no reads beside nk and kinda me. also a bunch of questions and "i am doing x", but nothing to show. kinda like his tone in some of the posts though. scum lean.

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so prolly conv or nk, maybe rayn.

On March 22 2018 01:31 rsoultin wrote:
-facepalms at ff-

Okay.

@disinfo thanks

Same place really. Disinfo could be scum and I could be wrong, but I'm not liking that lynch. Will only go there to save stronger townreads (NK included).

Rels I can get behind. Palmar. Would really like Slam most just for the vindication if he flips scum but that lynch doesn't seem terribly likely. I've explained the best I can.

I guess of my fallback lynches I'd prefer sl? Dunnae FF could be town for not making shit up. Maybe. Possibly. Conv...okay conv and sl mostly same level.

On March 22 2018 07:23 Vivax wrote:


Quite the unlurk there once the votes started flyin towards you.
Eager to see what's coming next.

On March 22 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote:


Uh... you haven't skyrocketed past all of my scumreads.

Kelscier, rsoultin, and rayn are not getting lynched today. And I want to wait and see on rsoultin more tbh.

On March 22 2018 07:26 darthfoley wrote:


Whatever floats your boat man. I'm not gonna waste my time engaging in childish insults with someone because I had the nerve to suggest the person may in fact be mafia.

On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote:
i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs.
i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith.

wtf is going on.

On March 22 2018 07:30 rsoultin wrote:
reeeeeelllllssss

ppl say rels bad, rels could be scum, etc. etc. no one wants to vote him ;o;

On March 22 2018 07:33 darthfoley wrote:


I can explain my read if people care, but I don't need to convince you that you're mafia.

You didn't hurt my feelings, the constant OMGUS just gets tiring. Shout out to Mocsta for putting me onto a new philosophy

On March 22 2018 07:34 MoosyDoosy wrote:

You did tell people they sucked which was not nice. tbh tempted to kill you just for that

On March 22 2018 07:37 rsoultin wrote:
anyway, rels anyone?

other posts go boom fast

no one lynches rels with me

-waves savory rels meat in front of people's noses-

On March 22 2018 07:51 darthfoley wrote:


lol

Not voting Mocsta and apparently all of a sudden no one likes a Conversion lynch, and I want to survive so

##Unvote
##Vote: Rels

On March 22 2018 22:30 Holyflare wrote:


????? Are you mafia.

Mocsta only changed wagons ONCE when he entered after waking up to YOU and then joined the wagon on rels. What wagon hopping did he do?

On March 22 2018 22:38 Mocsta wrote:

This one

On March 22 2018 22:41 Mocsta wrote:

This is so weird... technically you were an easy wagon??

Why are yoy doing this?

On March 22 2018 22:42 Palmar wrote:
although to be fair, conversion is close to being a lurker, he has no memorable interactions I can think of

On March 23 2018 00:49 Conversion wrote:
Mocsta, why on earth is Palmar more town than HF when he's sharing a similar scum read on you?

Also, you had people willing to divert onto a Rels lynch, so why did you jump on me to save yourself when you had enough time to get people onto a lynch that wasn't you?

On March 23 2018 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
Read my case yo. You missed out the parts where mocsta says noobking looks better but then says he's scummy a few posts later but then repeats he looks better again when everyone unvoted him.

On March 23 2018 01:22 Palmar wrote:

I don't scumread mocsta, pay attention.

On March 23 2018 05:44 rsoultin wrote:


No one that I'm aware of is calling you scum for not making a list. A read coming out of nowhere with nothing behind it is scummy, especially at EoD when they're one of the wagons. That simple.

If you want to not get scumread for that sort of thing, post your reads (in a list or just as you go).

On March 23 2018 05:45 disformation wrote:

common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts.

problem is:
when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment.
which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from.
and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring.

On March 23 2018 05:46 rsoultin wrote:


Lol this is bullshit.

On March 23 2018 05:52 rsoultin wrote:


DF was another viable lynch option at EoD. Your reluctance to lynch mocsta out of nowhere does not win you any town points with me and I'm not sure why you're so determined to push this narrative.

- There were other lynch options
- Even if there weren't, you could be mafia together

Go ahead and play your game, but that doesn't make my point invalid in the slightest.

On March 23 2018 05:31 disformation wrote:
that's actually another point. like tons of ppl scumread nk. why wasn't he the lynch?
I mean I think palmar, hf and rayn have a scumread on him? usually that would mean a lynch mob

On March 23 2018 06:32 Koshi wrote:
Man I was going to post this on deadline but w.e.
I think the risk is too high cool people will die.
RIP 3 townies.

I am paying attention. Suprise!
Best reads in spoiler. Town MVP Throphy = thx.
Mafia will probably win if slightly mafia balanced. Too much KP. Too many limited town players.

+ Show Spoiler +

On March 23 2018 06:35 Conversion wrote:


Koshi I think this is the 4th game you called me mafia, and this is the 4th time you'll be wrong. Can this be nominated for an award or something?

Anyways I got distracted by work. and I just fat palmed a post again.

On March 23 2018 07:00 Tictock wrote:


Quoted this from Conv’s post at the top of pg86. Really odd to me that he calls himself a coinflip.

@Conv
Mocsta said his vote was to save himself, people voting for self-preservation is pretty NAI as it is good play for both alignments.

None of the rest of that post was interesting, I’ve never understood why some ppl put a big deal on not townreading people who share a read with you. Scum hop on town’s reads all the time and while sharing a read should be taken into consideration it is never a solid basis for a read.

On March 23 2018 08:05 darthfoley wrote:
But Mocsta is almost certainly vigi sooooo

That leaves Conversion

On March 23 2018 08:29 Mocsta wrote:
why are you so prickly rn, and misrepresenting my content?

Firstly, I wrote I only have 2 town reads: Vivax and Disfo.

So by default, in my world, not all wagons were townreads.

Secondly, even if all the wagons are townLEANS, why can't that be the case.

The impetus for wagon swapping started after DISFO claimed with ~1-2hrs before deadline.
Further, at least 4-5 people had yet to vote; which leads to chaos.
Chaos leads to any combination of town/scum wagons being possible.
You know this... and are being intentionally obtuse, and its scummy.

Thirdly, the wagons were what; Disfo, me, conversion, rels; and n00b had already dismantled when it mattered
I am town
I believe disfo claim, as his tone has been consistent throughout the game
rels was town
conversion I believe could easily have OMGUS retaliated on me without question or reprimand. Enough to make a town lean.

So.. whats the problem again?

On March 23 2018 22:13 rsoultin wrote:
Nah, just got in. Think I'm gonna plop down a vote though and look over the game at my leisure. I was going to look specifically into the points mocsta raised. Did you have something else on DF that you wanted looked at?

@Conv

Noted. So why did you drop your better behavior conv this game?

On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote:

Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first before considering the paranoia theory that they were targeted because they're wrong to sow some confusion.

Unless you have a better suggestion for me to look into, I'll give it my utmost consideration.

On March 23 2018 22:33 rsoultin wrote:


Yeah I don't recall ever blowing off my chain at you, so -shrugs-

On March 21 2018 22:12 rsoultin wrote:


Nope. And if you bothered to know what the fuck you were talking about you'd know I'd already done this.

Figure out the rest of your unknowns my ass.

On March 23 2018 20:52 Conversion wrote:
also recent posts here give me good vibes about people who jumped on me, so I’m now wondering whether the 6 votes on me was a pure wagon.. hm. contrary to my previous opinion of that wagon not being pure