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On March 20 2018 09:39 Alakaslam wrote: Sson it’s a new game Get hip, you need to coarse grind your coffee I barely kept up with the last game, and I'm not reading any meta so far. We should still lynch n00bking. He is scum. | ||
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On March 20 2018 10:26 Tictock wrote: Ohhh, Free town read to Slam for posting some elctro-swing. One of my fav's too! Bah gotta post content, trying not to spam. So far I've only got a few weak town reads, and some sus on Exo, Conversion, and maybe KSC. Exo and Conv seem to be calling out scum reads just kus they feel like they need to. Either not explaining or posting bad reasons for their scum reads. KSC just jumping on anything he can, but at least he gave some indications why. Bad thread entrance and his posts reek scum. He has a 4 post filter and all of his posts are scummy. Also, I'm not calling out scum reads "cause I need to," I'm calling out scum because they are scum | ||
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On March 20 2018 10:42 Alakaslam wrote: If he is scum on 3 posts that would be a godread sir. 10 or so? Epic read. 3? Godread. Especially those 3; I say NAI I'm not here to discuss with you on the merits of my read. You can disagree all you want, but you're not pushing anything yourself and I've overlooked a good amount of your silly shit | ||
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You can't vote for yourself, buddy | ||
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Voting rules:
+ Show Spoiler + You cannot vote for yourself. + Show Spoiler + YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF. | ||
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On March 20 2018 11:21 Alakaslam wrote: Sson u trolling, not even in the vote thread is it? Ssssoooonnnnnnnnnnmmmm You can troll the thread, but you can't click two buttons to see he did it in the vote thread. Hm. | ||
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also HF I’m always angry, don’t ya know | ||
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I'll consolidate onto disform, only for the reason I have a nagging memory of someone explaining his scum play and feeling like it fits it. I'd have to meta dive for that, but that's annoying. I don't think ykl is scum for whatever reason alakabanana slamma jamma man said. and I don't think anyone else being voted is scum. besides disform. | ||
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I still think n00bking is scum, but if I have to consolidate for the greater good of town disfo would be the only person I would be comfortable getting off of n00bking for. | ||
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On March 21 2018 00:58 Vivax wrote: Conversion, "his posts are scummy" is not a very convincing case. You seem like you are way too comfortable abandoning your read like that for the greater good of town. And rsoultin I don't mean to be rude but I'm used to see you be way more cautious about my alignment. I don't recall the last time you just were happy to townread me that easily. When did I say I would ever leave my read? The situation where I'd consolidate is in the situation I do build a good case on him and no one agrees. What confuses me about n00bking is why he refuses to even briefly acknowledge that I want to lynch him. Why would any town just flat out refuse to discuss with the one person calling them scum, if even just to generate the reasons behind it? He's clearly active enough in the thread to nitpick certain posts, so I'm curious as to see if he's going to explain why he's not engaging me | ||
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On March 21 2018 01:25 Vivax wrote: I'm getting a dejavu from last game cause that's what AMG said about tubesock last game during D1 and they were both town. I don't think that you being ignored is a sufficient argument for him being mafia. Hmm fair point to AMG with Tubesock. Although that's not the only reason I scum read n00b, but with this many people disagreeing with me I'll have to put in some more work reading other filters and such when I have the time. | ||
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I'm off this thread as I'm in meetings until around 6PM EST. Toodles~ | ||
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On March 21 2018 01:57 Holyflare wrote: I take it back. Sorry. Why do you feel the need to consolidate instead of push though? A meeting ended early! No way! No need to apologize, it's part of the gamez. To the actual question, I just haven't put the time in to really flesh anything else out, so I was more talking of a future where I did put the time in to filter dive and reread n00bking's with more scrutiny. Right now I am keeping my vote on him and meant to say that if I put in more effort and no one was buying it, I would consolidate to only to disfo (if it came to it) Although maybe it's better just to stick to my guns. who knows | ||
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On March 21 2018 05:40 KelsierSC wrote: Darth , why is conversion not town anymore? On my phone and I’m going to shamelessly hop on this and ask what made me town read in the first place. | ||
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His entrance on how many mafia => strategy changing was a horrible post. How is that NAI? Why would a town anyone care about how many mafia there are? Vivax's "bait" was not a townie post to me either, and I don't really feel like casing his posts as they're rather short to consume and read. I'm going to filter dive other people when I get home. Sticking to my n00b vote. | ||
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On March 21 2018 09:09 n00bKing wrote: ONLY a town anyone wants players to find out how many mafia there are. lol Obviously my early scum game would mimic my early town game, but I would NOT go so far as to actually try and generate a discussion of how many mafia are in the game, if it seems like the host hasn't said, and it seems like other people aren't bringing it up. If I were scum, I would prefer that the topic is never, EVER raised. The only scum agenda there could be behind the post I made is "try to look town, by damaging the scum agenda." But it's TOO damaging to the scum agenda, for how much town cred is bought by it. Net-negative, for any scum player to make that post. Only makes sense for town. I mean a scum player can make that post thinking that townies would never make that post so that’s not a good reason? Also I am town and I literally didn’t give a shit about the number of mafia and I don’t see why other town would as well | ||
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but you’re scum and it’s really cute that you try to quantify skill at a forum mafia game as literally no one thinks you’re good LOL | ||
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I’m also ignoring anything moosy or slam says so let me know if they say something useful | ||
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going to dive disfo and ExO. I do not think Kels is scum | ||
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no idea why he focused on moosy, but that's hindsight I guess kelsier vs him shitfight was useless. I could see where exo would make the mistake because I have done the same thing, but then it devolved into Kels calling exo scum, or asking exo what his read on him was so he can adjust his read? liked exo's callout on that halfway through his filter not sure who he wants to lynch yet. or who he scum reads. okay just kidding he thinks Kels/NK are scum, votes Kels. hoping he filters through NK or something after this I know this is a joke post, but I don't like it. it feels too forced and out of place compared to the rest of his filter ? On March 21 2018 19:37 ExO_ wrote: Holy shit can you guys chill out. I wake up to like 10 more pages of thread to read, why is it the activity picks up most when im sleeping. Also, awake now! I like his firm stance on his rsoul read, right or wrong. I wouldn't lynch exo today. unless someone can convince me otherwise | ||
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On March 21 2018 22:12 rsoultin wrote: Nope. And if you bothered to know what the fuck you were talking about you'd know I'd already done this. Figure out the rest of your unknowns my ass. man why are people so testy in this game. that's my job On March 21 2018 19:15 rsoultin wrote: And now I am going to pretty blatantly be a hypocrite and say that even though HF isn't all shiny for me, I'm also not seeing anything glaring that makes me think he could be scum. Tone tips it slightly towards town for me. HF removed. That leaves me with: Palmar/Slam Conversion, ff, sl Hah! I like that size much better. The chances that's the actual scum team is small, especially since Rels is just a ? and some of the other people in the not lynch list are there for light townreads, but I'm happy with that. Although I do realize that means scum would be hardly playing. Then again, with these lynches lined up, if I'm right on at least those townreads, that's not all that unlikely really. explain your read on me and ff, then. your read on me seemed waffly as shit and I have no idea where you are with it | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=rsoultin&view=all ctrl + f "Conversion" ??? | ||
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anyways, back to filter diving disfo | ||
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On March 21 2018 23:59 disformation wrote: so. now we have 5 votes on me and at least 2 ppl who mentioned maybe voting for me. think that is approaching numbers, where I feel like there should be a scummer on there. voters: hoshi, nk, KSC, rayn, HF maybe voters: Conv, RS hoshi: I think I get his scum read on me better now, since he explained that he initially voted for a small thing, but appears to not be a fan of my other posts. lines up with what hf said I guess. has done/attempted this play style as town a bunch of times before. can be a town lean. nk: still somewhat pissed that he refuses to explain why he is voting me. outside of that he is looking a bit better by now. not a fan of his style though, still want to stick him somewhere in the scum spectrum of things till he explains that vote. KSC: still think he is more likely town. rayn: vote makes sense, but might be a fairly lazy hop onto this train. not a fan of his filter either. no impact no wham. somewhat hesitant cause seems to be busy, but I want to stick him on the scummier side of null or give him a scum lean. Def. lynch if he keeps having no impact. hf: has the most fleshed out read on me and is not just hopping onto the train. so i like that. didnt do much before, but that is also not outside of his town meta. might be a bit early to call him town though, cause rest of his filter is meh. but def. not the worst passenger on this wagon. also @hf, what happened to: rs: not sure why ppl say she is boring/underwhelming? or rather: at least looks like she is trying to figure stuff out. which makes her filter kinda better than hf/koshi/rayn filters? not sure what to think about her willingness to maybe vote me. concession to thread consensus building? @Rels, @HF can you guys point out what exactly is like missing from her filter? is it a meta thing? dont think im seeing it, but i have horrible eye sight. conv: early consolidation comment could have been to hold/create that option for him. also still basically no reads beside nk and kinda me. also a bunch of questions and "i am doing x", but nothing to show. kinda like his tone in some of the posts though. scum lean. so prolly conv or nk, maybe rayn. ???? I said I was going to filter dive you and exo, and I did exo. don’t misrepresent my posts | ||
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On March 22 2018 01:31 rsoultin wrote: -facepalms at ff- Okay. @disinfo thanks Same place really. Disinfo could be scum and I could be wrong, but I'm not liking that lynch. Will only go there to save stronger townreads (NK included). Rels I can get behind. Palmar. Would really like Slam most just for the vindication if he flips scum but that lynch doesn't seem terribly likely. I've explained the best I can. I guess of my fallback lynches I'd prefer sl? Dunnae FF could be town for not making shit up. Maybe. Possibly. Conv...okay conv and sl mostly same level. same level? so I can just not post from now on since I'll be at the same level as a dude who hasn't bothered to comment on the game. cool. | ||
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and no DF I am a town who doesn’t care as much as I should | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:23 Vivax wrote: Quite the unlurk there once the votes started flyin towards you. Eager to see what's coming next. I literally come back and see votes on me on page 66/67. No idea what happened in the last 20 pages, so idgaf honestly. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:25 darthfoley wrote: Uh... you haven't skyrocketed past all of my scumreads. Kelscier, rsoultin, and rayn are not getting lynched today. And I want to wait and see on rsoultin more tbh. translates to "I am bad at this game so I will go for the easiest target to start a wagon on" | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:26 darthfoley wrote: Whatever floats your boat man. I'm not gonna waste my time engaging in childish insults with someone because I had the nerve to suggest the person may in fact be mafia. ? I said I skyrocketed past your reads, you replied that I did not, gave me 3 names, yet you started a wagon on me. Somehow that's supposed to translate to anything else besides you being shitty and going for an easy target? Sorry for hurting your feelings, bud. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote: i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs. i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith. wtf is going on. Relax, buddy. I won't vote you to save myself. I believe you are town and this wagon picking up steam is definitely not pure, so I think town will be able to get mafia out of it. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:30 rsoultin wrote: reeeeeelllllssss ppl say rels bad, rels could be scum, etc. etc. no one wants to vote him ;o; Rels somehow subsequently ignoring all my posts afterwards and still townreading me gives me the funnies, but I don't think he'll pick enough steam to lynch him over me. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:33 darthfoley wrote: I can explain my read if people care, but I don't need to convince you that you're mafia. You didn't hurt my feelings, the constant OMGUS just gets tiring. Shout out to Mocsta for putting me onto a new philosophy 'Constant OMGUS' like I did any OMGUS this game. keep the drama queen title alive, buddy. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:34 MoosyDoosy wrote: You did tell people they sucked which was not nice. tbh tempted to kill you just for that I'm going to unignore you because you lack reading comprehension. N00bking is the first one that insinuated I was bad at this game, hence why I laughed in his face, you dumb troll. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:37 rsoultin wrote: anyway, rels anyone? other posts go boom fast no one lynches rels with me -waves savory rels meat in front of people's noses- Eh, people want to consolidate onto me more than anyone else. I'm fine with that. I will most likely get lynched, and there's no way in hell we have 6+ town on my wagon so I'd say look there first. Koshi literally always thinks I'm mafia so I'm not sure how alignment indicative his vote is, but df/moosy looks dumpster-tier once I flip green. | ||
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On March 22 2018 07:51 darthfoley wrote: lol Not voting Mocsta and apparently all of a sudden no one likes a Conversion lynch, and I want to survive so ##Unvote ##Vote: Rels Because my wagon was bad and you know it was bad and you should feel bad and Rels should be lynched as we both have the funnies on him soft defending you and me | ||
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On March 22 2018 22:30 Holyflare wrote: ????? Are you mafia. Mocsta only changed wagons ONCE when he entered after waking up to YOU and then joined the wagon on rels. What wagon hopping did he do? yes I am mafia and I am going to shoot you tomorrow anyways, I thought he jumped more than just on Rels. let me actually take a look | ||
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I wouldn’t vote you to save myself, but I’d vote you (in hindsight) if you stuck onto me like opportunistic scum. I didn’t see you that in that light now and I am trying to see other possibilities with Rels flipping town. I also am not really typing well on my phone. Going to get on a laptop | ||
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On March 22 2018 22:41 Mocsta wrote: This is so weird... technically you were an easy wagon?? Why are yoy doing this? I was an easy wagon? Most people had me at a “I’ll lynch Conversion over x since I am not getting my primary lynch,” it randomly picked up steam, and then 6 people jumped on me in a mater of minutes. Maybe 1-2 people had actual reasons on why they thought I was scum on my wagon | ||
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On March 22 2018 22:42 Palmar wrote: although to be fair, conversion is close to being a lurker, he has no memorable interactions I can think of This is a correct evaluation and where I should be in most people’s minds, IMO. I will play more seriously now for whatever that counts for. | ||
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On March 20 2018 22:37 Mocsta wrote: Gonna hit the sack but wanted to say overall this is a good day1 start. ~17pages with 20 people and enough content to gwnuinely scum hunt. Over the next 24hours we need to focus on resolutions to these topics. With 20 players and ?5? Scum there is a 1/4 chance scum is in every convo. Consolidation will be key as last minute vote swaps is both scum favoured and will make future vote count analysis almost useless. Off the top of my head big topics are: Exo/kelsier Noobking/HF Probably moosey and the self vote Df and the roleplay Slam vibe change I cant tell if koshi is in the mix or mentiined as collateral I think only non posters are sicklucker and rels Thoughts before bed and wjthout properly reading page 21 onwards. Moose is town I have no issue with df. Not sure why others are annoyed. Exo kelsier is tvt Hf uncertain Nk scum Slam need to read medic to confirm vibe change Dark horse read is one of palmar and hf is scum Not sure which Something tickled me weird with palmar. Will see if it still triggers me when i wake. Hf here cos i found him to be a bit more flacid than i am used to in palmar presence. Could be a respect thing. Meh. Nite First occurrence of NK being scum here, by Mocsta, with saying one of Palmar/HF is scum On March 21 2018 07:46 Mocsta wrote: So... im in an odd predicament (1) I have an important dinner tonight so wont be able to critically read anything (2) Where I work has been thrown in an unplanned shutdown.. I really dont know if I can commit the time to apply critical thought. I still think Day1 comes down to resolutions on the big topics: Slam Moosy Ex0/KSC, Koshi/Disfo/n00bking, DF Rest is probably side distractions. My current (albeit loose) thoughts are: Above null pile (Ex0_, rsoultin, vivax, rayn, Kelsier, ykl, disinfo, Palmar Null pile (HF, Conversion, Slam, darthfoley, Rels, tictock, sicklucker, koshi, moosy) Below null pile (n00bking) Of the above null, I feel least strong about disinfo as its based on a heuristic that is gut feel only. Conversion is in null pile as I havent focused on anything he has said. Slam I would still need to meta-dive. DF I actually like, but I give pause since so many others have issue. I wouldnt lynch today, and would prefer not to use a bullet on. tictock is in null pile as I was surprised by the content since waking. Maybe im selfish, but I was quite surprised he didnt ask me anything. moosy i agree is not on the table Day1. Could be easy mislynch; so focus on other scum team. Apologies to leave it like this. Palmar suddenly becomes above null, and HF is null. Abandons his Palmar/HF 50/50 scum theory? On March 21 2018 08:55 Mocsta wrote: n00bking indulge with that Ni insight. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/532111-classic-mafia?user=n00bKing What is your position on top 2 or 3 scum candidates. + Show Spoiler [NK] + #144 - Setup speculation #159 - Setup speculation #188 - Vivax -> Moosy clarification: Read unknown #276 - tictock -> ExO_ clarification: Read unknown #278 - Interesting Slam comment (indicative of NK/Slam team). DF comment. Vote Disfo. ykl suggestive pressure. No true position taken (as liking Koshi vote can be similar to liking ykl pressure) #280 - Critiquing grammer #337 - Confirms that conversion is being ignored. Intentionally dodging ykl (of relevance, as later NK states ykl is good target for pressure. This should then present a fantastic opportunity to counter-pressure) #339 - Does not take position on mcosta or tictock. Just states that mocsta logic is poor. #340 - curious about slam. Odd phrasing. Trying to draw out information (one of the first posts from NK trying to do this) - the question is for what purpose. #341 - Indicates agreement abotu Ex0 not reading the thread (or likely to be town) #343 - Arguing actions in theory, with no comment on players at hand. Trys to sway HF into a disagreement with tictock #344 - Comprehension question #361 - Is arguing logic, without indicating a lean towards any player in question #591 - Takes position that DF is leaning town #592 - Filler #595 - Debate logic. States Exo actions are indicative of town play; but at no points declare Ex0 town #603 - Requests conversion to build a case against him #604 - Wants to target lurkers and inexpereinced players to divulge motive. LOL. now that I have filter dived scrap that request ##Vote: n00bking
NK is playing filler this cycle, while chastising other players for being illogical. Classic scum maintaining activity by shitting on others to avoid posting real content. P.S.NK known for wordplay.. pay attention to end of day posts with moosy/prplhz last game. If NK flips scum, slam is almost certainly scum Votes for NK, says he is scum. "Known for wordplay" assumes previous game meta being applied to scumread him here. On March 20 2018 18:14 Holyflare wrote: Yeah I'm just gonna vote noobking and have free mafia. On March 21 2018 08:58 Mocsta wrote: Perhaps its the ply of your toilet paper, but you havent tickled me yet in the way a town HF normally tickles me. I realise I don't know how a scum!HF tickles, but I have certainly seen the town tickle across the games this year. Until I see a bit more of that magic around the game, you are still in my null pile. Point of contention here-- I do agree with HF. Why is Mocsta calling HF null when they share the scumread? should be at least the same level of Palmar since they agree with a scumread ? Question here for me is why is Palmar above HF with the similar read? On March 21 2018 10:35 Mocsta wrote: NK I have no desire to argue with a scum read. Its pointless for the spectators. The only comment I will make is that #652 reads like a classic scum "what have i done wrong" post. The short of it is this: You are intelligent enough to have awareness of how you play the game as town. This is very clear from filter diving prior town/scum games. There is good consistency, so kudos to you. However, following a checklist of town tells; doesn't account for the dynamic nature of each game as an individual sum of parts. You are playing like old-school rubber-band AI; when you need to implement machine learning to truly be considered elite. You are scum. Nothing further to say. Reinforcing n00bking is scum, but doesn't re-evaluate his HF read On March 21 2018 15:57 Mocsta wrote: anyways, sorry slam i had enough for today, and already 10 pages of filter for ppl to wake up to & i dont want to add anymore. my vote is sticking with n00bking and i hope yours it too! big split shenanies should be prevented in unknown setup game. we need to be able to hold people accountable for voting actions once more informatino is known. sticks with n00bking here On March 22 2018 00:46 Mocsta wrote: Wrfrf Wht is ff voting nk Yikes gets off n00bking because FF votes him? even though he was happy with disfo/nk wagon, hops off to Rels. Also, not a lot on FF from his filter from what I can gather... so why is FF voting for NK enough to make him vote off his preferred disfo/nk wagons? Wondering if disfo claimed here or not, would have to double check On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote: i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs. i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith. wtf is going on. This is not a good post. Instead of trying to divert a lynch towards one of his many scum reads, he just wants to coinflip on me. His vote pattern is now n00bking -> rels -> me After that he goes back to rels and then leaves a farewell post.. that doesn't do much | ||
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On March 23 2018 00:49 Conversion wrote: Mocsta, why on earth is Palmar more town than HF when he's sharing a similar scum read on you? Also, you had people willing to divert onto a Rels lynch, so why did you jump on me to save yourself when you had enough time to get people onto a lynch that wasn't you? EBWOP. fat palmed my left click onto post.. | ||
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On March 23 2018 00:57 Holyflare wrote: Read my case yo. You missed out the parts where mocsta says noobking looks better but then says he's scummy a few posts later but then repeats he looks better again when everyone unvoted him. I read that. I just want him to answer that first because his reasons for saying you are not great makes no sense when you literally share the same scum read as him. Also him voting me "to save himself" looks bad too because I wanted to lynch n00bking all of day1 until no one else wanted to... and he wanted to until FF randomly voted n00bking | ||
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Bad pronoun usage there. Well, bad grammar overall. Mocsta, why on earth is Palmar above null and HF is null when HF is sharing a similar scum read to you, Mocsta? | ||
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On March 23 2018 05:44 rsoultin wrote: No one that I'm aware of is calling you scum for not making a list. A read coming out of nowhere with nothing behind it is scummy, especially at EoD when they're one of the wagons. That simple. If you want to not get scumread for that sort of thing, post your reads (in a list or just as you go). So me townreading possibly the only other legitimate wagon that would save my hide is somehow making me scummy.. okay. You play your game and I'll play mine. | ||
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On March 23 2018 05:45 disformation wrote: common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts. problem is: when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment. which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from. and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring. Right, and when I open your filter I see a bunch of waffling here and there. My heuristic says that scum do this more than town. Do I attribute this heuristic now to fit you as scum? No, I don't, because I use this thing called critically thinking to try and see what the context of the your filter makes you scum. The fact that both you and rsoultin are seriously trying to tell me that that fact that I townread Mocsta out of nowhere is scummy is hilarious. I'll cede the point of not posting reads/lists/whatever you two want as scummy as your heuristic, and I won't argue with that. But calling me scummy for not trying to countervote Mocsta? Go ahead and get me lynched. I don't care. As I said to rsoul, I'll play my game and you play yours. | ||
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Kinda sounds like your read on me this whole game. You literally placed me as equally to a dude who made 0 posts and then got replaced. Not scummier or townier, literally in the exact same spot. That's the last post I'm making to you this cycle and most likely the next. | ||
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On March 23 2018 05:52 rsoultin wrote: DF was another viable lynch option at EoD. Your reluctance to lynch mocsta out of nowhere does not win you any town points with me and I'm not sure why you're so determined to push this narrative. - There were other lynch options - Even if there weren't, you could be mafia together Go ahead and play your game, but that doesn't make my point invalid in the slightest. If you can't see why your point is stupid then we'll end it here. Enjoy! | ||
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On March 23 2018 05:31 disformation wrote: that's actually another point. like tons of ppl scumread nk. why wasn't he the lynch? I mean I think palmar, hf and rayn have a scumread on him? usually that would mean a lynch mob I'm going to filter dive you for it soon, but if you can, can you answer what made you hop off n00bking an hour after you voted him? | ||
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On March 23 2018 06:32 Koshi wrote: Man I was going to post this on deadline but w.e. I think the risk is too high cool people will die. RIP 3 townies. I am paying attention. Suprise! Best reads in spoiler. Town MVP Throphy = thx. Mafia will probably win if slightly mafia balanced. Too much KP. Too many limited town players. + Show Spoiler + Top town 18. Coagulation (town seal) 9. KelsierSC (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs) 6. rsoultin (top town since start; if you don't see it you are plebs) 7. Vivax (tip top town, because he lives in Vivax world) Townish 3. ExO_ (Some1 mindmelded with him. The mindmeldee is mostly town. Other than that he doesn't look good) 17. Tictock (I said this after a post he made) 4. Mocsta (seems lost. Being lost here is good) 20. MoosyDoosy (I think he is town just based on thread sentiment against him) I have hope for these players 15. Palmar (high hopes) 1. Holyflare (less high hopes) Can flip either way 8. raynpelikoneet (not enough cares during lynch, nothing smart during night, pushes the idea df is town on something he didn't read properly. But he seems a bit lost which is townie) 14. disformation (still looks mafia to me) 10. ykl (Meh, needs more sass, way too safe) 11. n00bking (He might be good at playing mafia, I think he is town) 5. Alakaslam (potential false prophet) mafia 2. Conversion (I call him mafia, he says I am always wrong on his alignment.) 12. darthfoley (I call him mafia, he says I am wrong.) 16. Fecalfeast (0 impact) Koshi I think this is the 4th game you called me mafia, and this is the 4th time you'll be wrong. Can this be nominated for an award or something? Anyways I got distr | ||
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On March 23 2018 06:35 Conversion wrote: Koshi I think this is the 4th game you called me mafia, and this is the 4th time you'll be wrong. Can this be nominated for an award or something? Anyways I got distracted by work. and I just fat palmed a post again. EBWOP I also remember filter diving disformation so that wasn't helpful. I also remember reading his previous game (was it Newbie when he replaced in?) and saying something along the lines of his tone feels different but maybe I didn't. But if I did not, that's what I feel now. | ||
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you have to try to be that bad to make a play like that as mafia | ||
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On March 23 2018 07:00 Tictock wrote: Quoted this from Conv’s post at the top of pg86. Really odd to me that he calls himself a coinflip. @Conv Mocsta said his vote was to save himself, people voting for self-preservation is pretty NAI as it is good play for both alignments. None of the rest of that post was interesting, I’ve never understood why some ppl put a big deal on not townreading people who share a read with you. Scum hop on town’s reads all the time and while sharing a read should be taken into consideration it is never a solid basis for a read. the point was not townreading HF. the point was why was Palmar above HF, why did he just call HF unimpressive without ever addressing the shared scumread, and why did he suddenly jump off NK when FF voted? | ||
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On March 23 2018 08:05 darthfoley wrote: But Mocsta is almost certainly vigi sooooo That leaves Conversion I'm going to stop you right here and ask you to not waste time trying to get me lynched and focus on scum. Because I am not scum. | ||
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On March 23 2018 08:29 Mocsta wrote: why are you so prickly rn, and misrepresenting my content? Firstly, I wrote I only have 2 town reads: Vivax and Disfo.
Secondly, even if all the wagons are townLEANS, why can't that be the case.
Further, at least 4-5 people had yet to vote; which leads to chaos. Chaos leads to any combination of town/scum wagons being possible. You know this... and are being intentionally obtuse, and its scummy. Thirdly, the wagons were what; Disfo, me, conversion, rels; and n00b had already dismantled when it mattered I am town I believe disfo claim, as his tone has been consistent throughout the game rels was town conversion I believe could easily have OMGUS retaliated on me without question or reprimand. Enough to make a town lean. So.. whats the problem again? There also was a DF wagon briefly before the rels jump | ||
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good thing I wanted to lynch you D1 as that’s all my filter is about ##bote: n00bking | ||
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this might be a good argument had I only played like two games here, but you can’t use just one game as a measuring stick. I even have a scum game here where I got lynched for shitty play on D1.. that should be your comparison, not a town game where I believe I played well D1 and then did almost nothing but sound nice afterwards | ||
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On March 23 2018 22:13 rsoultin wrote: Nah, just got in. Think I'm gonna plop down a vote though and look over the game at my leisure. I was going to look specifically into the points mocsta raised. Did you have something else on DF that you wanted looked at? @Conv Noted. So why did you drop your better behavior conv this game? I'm still not at the drama-queen stage yet so I think I'm doing fine, so better behavior compared to what? I have non game related reasons why I was slightly testy D1/N1, but it's rather annoying that you blew off your chain at me first and then expect the same level of respect back as you did in Vendee. Granted I was in a better mood when you tried to OMGUS me in Vendee, but again, I'm not a robot and you seriously can't expect me to be the same every game. | ||
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On March 23 2018 22:17 ykl wrote: Its not really a complicated thought process. Scum notices them getting suspected -> scum panics -> scum kills to get people off their trail. Its pretty much the simplest conclusion possible and probably the dumbest one but I'm a really stupid person so I'll go with this first before considering the paranoia theory that they were targeted because they're wrong to sow some confusion. Unless you have a better suggestion for me to look into, I'll give it my utmost consideration. I do not think you're stupid, but sometimes you have to assume mafia does things illogically just because, or they have a greater strategy in mind. If you're town let's work together to catch scum and make ourselves look as townie as possible. | ||
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On March 23 2018 22:33 rsoultin wrote: Yeah I don't recall ever blowing off my chain at you, so -shrugs- On March 21 2018 22:12 rsoultin wrote: Nope. And if you bothered to know what the fuck you were talking about you'd know I'd already done this. Figure out the rest of your unknowns my ass. | ||
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On March 23 2018 20:52 Conversion wrote: also recent posts here give me good vibes about people who jumped on me, so I’m now wondering whether the 6 votes on me was a pure wagon.. hm. contrary to my previous opinion of that wagon not being pure anyways, just as a clarification to this point-- if there are any scum in my wagon I'd have to narrow it down to Koshi/DF, more leaning towards DF. that's what I meant when I though the wagon wasn't pure, but I am now unsure. | ||
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Seriously, fuck all of you telling me my behavior has been shit. | ||
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Too-da-loo ~ if I don't get my MK request fulfilled I guess I'll just start breaking rules | ||
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