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ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 20 2018 12:22 GMT
#441
On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.


Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it


disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.

I could lynch disinformation 100%


But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.


he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.


Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided.

What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?


I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment.

I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that.

I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote.

##Vote: disinformation


This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote....

I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 20 2018 12:30 GMT
#442
On March 20 2018 21:22 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.


Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it


disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.

I could lynch disinformation 100%


But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.


he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.


Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided.

What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?


I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment.

I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that.

I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote.

##Vote: disinformation


This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote....

I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him.


koshi did offer a reason for voting him. it's in the quote.

I already said I was being facetious I am offering no "defence" for NK. I just like koshi's reason. I assume NK did too.

I can see you are not reading "super closely" again.

but yeh keep calling stuff weird and being baffled. really helpful.
Zerg for Life
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 20 2018 12:33 GMT
#443
On March 20 2018 21:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 21:22 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.


Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it


disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.

I could lynch disinformation 100%


But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.


he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.


Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided.

What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?


I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment.

I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that.

I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote.

##Vote: disinformation


This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote....

I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him.


koshi did offer a reason for voting him. it's in the quote.

I already said I was being facetious I am offering no "defence" for NK. I just like koshi's reason. I assume NK did too.

I can see you are not reading "super closely" again.

but yeh keep calling stuff weird and being baffled. really helpful.


On March 20 2018 10:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 09:42 disformation wrote:
just for the record: moosy asking bout the setup is fairly nai. totally in his town range.

##vote disformation

It's ok. You tried.


You're trying to brush me off, but this quote doesn't look like much of a reason to me.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 20 2018 12:34 GMT
#444
Or is:
"it's ok. You tried"

some sort of profound reason I just don't see
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 20 2018 12:35 GMT
#445
On March 20 2018 21:33 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 21:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:22 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.


Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it


disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.

I could lynch disinformation 100%


But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.


he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.


Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided.

What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?


I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment.

I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that.

I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote.

##Vote: disinformation


This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote....

I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him.


koshi did offer a reason for voting him. it's in the quote.

I already said I was being facetious I am offering no "defence" for NK. I just like koshi's reason. I assume NK did too.

I can see you are not reading "super closely" again.

but yeh keep calling stuff weird and being baffled. really helpful.


Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 10:06 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2018 09:42 disformation wrote:
just for the record: moosy asking bout the setup is fairly nai. totally in his town range.

##vote disformation

It's ok. You tried.


You're trying to brush me off, but this quote doesn't look like much of a reason to me.


ok then don't vote and talk about something else.

Honestly you are either scum or town with zero reading comprehension so you aren't that important.

Zerg for Life
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 20 2018 12:37 GMT
#446
It's 13:37, so it's time to post.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 20 2018 12:39 GMT
#447
On March 20 2018 21:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 21:33 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:30 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:22 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:
On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
[quote]

Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it


disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.

I could lynch disinformation 100%


But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.


he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.


Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided.

What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?


I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment.

I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that.

I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote.

##Vote: disinformation


This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote....

I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him.


koshi did offer a reason for voting him. it's in the quote.

I already said I was being facetious I am offering no "defence" for NK. I just like koshi's reason. I assume NK did too.

I can see you are not reading "super closely" again.

but yeh keep calling stuff weird and being baffled. really helpful.


On March 20 2018 10:06 Koshi wrote:
On March 20 2018 09:42 disformation wrote:
just for the record: moosy asking bout the setup is fairly nai. totally in his town range.

##vote disformation

It's ok. You tried.


You're trying to brush me off, but this quote doesn't look like much of a reason to me.


ok then don't vote and talk about something else.

Honestly you are either scum or town with zero reading comprehension so you aren't that important.



I don't think attacking me makes sense here. If I'm missing something, instead of antagonizing me show me: where is Koshi's reason for his vote? I certainly don't see it in his filter -- quoting disinfo and saying "it's okay you tried" isn't offering any reasoning or explanation at all.

You clearly think disinfo is worthy of a vote here, and Koshi was the first person to vote Disinfo and you've established you believe Koshi has a reason you agree with, I would like that explained to me, because I don't see it at all.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2018 12:43 GMT
#448
I absolutely side with exo on this one. Koshi's post is not a reason and voting with it is bad. Sarcastic quips to belittle exo when he's doing nothing particularly wrong is bad.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 20 2018 12:44 GMT
#449
Koshi quotes then votes in the same post. Huge leap of logic to assume Koshi doesn't like the post that he quoted.

I don't like it either so I voted dis.

If you are fine with the post then don't vote and contribute something else.

I would try and explain in more detail but you have already said you don't read the thread and just try to bury people rather than read their explanations..

Zerg for Life
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 20 2018 12:50 GMT
#450
On March 20 2018 21:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Koshi quotes then votes in the same post. Huge leap of logic to assume Koshi doesn't like the post that he quoted.

I don't like it either so I voted dis.

If you are fine with the post then don't vote and contribute something else.

I would try and explain in more detail but you have already said you don't read the thread and just try to bury people rather than read their explanations..



The problem I have here is that I don't think this came up organically. I brought up the fact that NK voted Disinfo with Koshi without providing a reason (and I still don't believe quoting one sentence from Disinfo is remotely a good enough reason to vote him without further explanation).

You then provided a potential reason why NK might have voted Disinfo -- I said he didn't provide this reasoning though, and you double down by voting Disinfo yourself.

It feels wrong to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but this makes me think you are scum with NK.

##Vote:KelsierSC
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 20 2018 12:56 GMT
#451
On March 20 2018 21:50 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 21:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Koshi quotes then votes in the same post. Huge leap of logic to assume Koshi doesn't like the post that he quoted.

I don't like it either so I voted dis.

If you are fine with the post then don't vote and contribute something else.

I would try and explain in more detail but you have already said you don't read the thread and just try to bury people rather than read their explanations..



The problem I have here is that I don't think this came up organically. I brought up the fact that NK voted Disinfo with Koshi without providing a reason (and I still don't believe quoting one sentence from Disinfo is remotely a good enough reason to vote him without further explanation).

You then provided a potential reason why NK might have voted Disinfo -- I said he didn't provide this reasoning though, and you double down by voting Disinfo yourself.

It feels wrong to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but this makes me think you are scum with NK.

##Vote:KelsierSC


you really just don't read anything. I already said I mentioned NK's reason facietously.

I don't like Disinfo so I vote on him. You can construct more stupid shit to try and bury me but i'm done trying to talk to someone who doesn't read.
Zerg for Life
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 20 2018 13:11 GMT
#452
I am awake and n00bking is still scum

also HF I’m always angry, don’t ya know
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 20 2018 13:21 GMT
#453
Some thoughts I feel like sharing in inconclusive post manner.

- Almost purely tonally TT and NK look town to me.

- rsoultin hasn't been pestering anyone and might be mafia for it.

- Did anyone hijack Kelsiers account? Don't even want to decide what he is as long as he keeps posting.

- Koshi probably town for not giving a shit so far, will have confirmation when the town Koshi trademark posts start to pour in.

- ykl very diplomatic, could come from mafia, currently stuck deciding whether he's just catering to the people he answers to. However his filter leads me to Mocstas for this reason:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:01 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:32 ykl wrote:
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.
Hi ykl,
Above is a gross simplification.

Refering to #232
TMI related to you expressing that: Ex0, Conversion, Moosey & n00bking are all "chasing down the wrong path".

This does not only infer they are all not scum. But that they are also all town - enough that further info is not needed.

Your explanation since does not address the Moosey/n00bking element either.

Post 10 / 14






Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out?

I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable.

n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.



I think it's odd here that Mocsta pays attention to the TMI element in the #232 post he links in the nested quote and emphasizes it when ykl said he doesn't think either are scum already which implies that there is at least a null read,

I also didn't like Mocstas post on TT. It was cute style-wise but also read like plain rhetoric without much substance cause the entire point was to ping TT for the sole reason that he hadn't been pinged yet.

I'd have found the part more interesting where he says:

On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:
Hi ykl.

I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up.

People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious


It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site?

Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it.
I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia.

Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason.


I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path.


Bolded is pretty much an example of a"let me go and look for something to write about on the go" mindset, but in a natural way. I think this particular case comes from town cause he's so brazen about it. Scum does it more accidentally.

To have the post actually end conclusively though, I need to point out something else and why I still think we should lynch ExO:

On March 20 2018 11:21 ExO_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:05 Vivax wrote:
And you still didn't explain why what you said makes moosy mafia.

Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that.


Again, if he knows the setup, posting asking to explain it is scummy to me.

Do you have any reads on anybody else? Or anything else? or are you just gonna yolo tunnel me as your one contribution?


I believe it's a very mafia thing to do to point at what the guy pressuring you isn't doing while he is busy with you, cause it's a way of getting rid of pressure by trying to play it back to him based on the posting quantity of said person.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 20 2018 13:25 GMT
#454
In fact I recall doing the exact same thing as mafia and whine back to some dudes about why they're not looking at other posts while holding back from scumreading them while not trying to make it a reason to scumread them cause it'd lead to me having to post more.

But I also think that to find the example I'd have to find an obscenely old game so don't ask me to look for it.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
March 20 2018 13:26 GMT
#455
EBWOP (to correctly convey)

while holding back from scumreading them while not trying to make it a reason to scumread them cause it'd lead to me having to post more.


While sounding like I want to scumread them for it while not trying to make it a reason to scumread them cause it'd lead to me having to post more.
ExO_
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 20 2018 13:31 GMT
#456
On March 20 2018 22:21 Vivax wrote:
Some thoughts I feel like sharing in inconclusive post manner.

- Almost purely tonally TT and NK look town to me.

- rsoultin hasn't been pestering anyone and might be mafia for it.

- Did anyone hijack Kelsiers account? Don't even want to decide what he is as long as he keeps posting.

- Koshi probably town for not giving a shit so far, will have confirmation when the town Koshi trademark posts start to pour in.

- ykl very diplomatic, could come from mafia, currently stuck deciding whether he's just catering to the people he answers to. However his filter leads me to Mocstas for this reason:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:01 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:32 ykl wrote:
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.
Hi ykl,
Above is a gross simplification.

Refering to #232
TMI related to you expressing that: Ex0, Conversion, Moosey & n00bking are all "chasing down the wrong path".

This does not only infer they are all not scum. But that they are also all town - enough that further info is not needed.

Your explanation since does not address the Moosey/n00bking element either.

Post 10 / 14






Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out?

I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable.

n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.



I think it's odd here that Mocsta pays attention to the TMI element in the #232 post he links in the nested quote and emphasizes it when ykl said he doesn't think either are scum already which implies that there is at least a null read,

I also didn't like Mocstas post on TT. It was cute style-wise but also read like plain rhetoric without much substance cause the entire point was to ping TT for the sole reason that he hadn't been pinged yet.

I'd have found the part more interesting where he says:

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:
Hi ykl.

I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up.

People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious


It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site?

Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it.
I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia.

Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason.


I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path.


Bolded is pretty much an example of a"let me go and look for something to write about on the go" mindset, but in a natural way. I think this particular case comes from town cause he's so brazen about it. Scum does it more accidentally.

To have the post actually end conclusively though, I need to point out something else and why I still think we should lynch ExO:

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:21 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:05 Vivax wrote:
And you still didn't explain why what you said makes moosy mafia.

Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that.


Again, if he knows the setup, posting asking to explain it is scummy to me.

Do you have any reads on anybody else? Or anything else? or are you just gonna yolo tunnel me as your one contribution?


I believe it's a very mafia thing to do to point at what the guy pressuring you isn't doing while he is busy with you, cause it's a way of getting rid of pressure by trying to play it back to him based on the posting quantity of said person.


I could just omgus, but that’s not really gonna help town now is it? I’ve been bad about this in the past. However I can’t help but notice you offer nothing new here. I’ve posted a lot, take the above for example — do you have no thoughts on this exchange between myself and keisler?

Asking you your thoughts on other players and do something other than insist “lynch ExO” isn’t scum indicative. If you wanna tunnel me fine — offer something else too. Calling everyone town and only looking at me as scum isn’t productive in my opinion
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 13:37 GMT
#457
Gonna hit the sack but wanted to say overall this is a good day1 start.

~17pages with 20 people and enough content to gwnuinely scum hunt.

Over the next 24hours we need to focus on resolutions to these topics. With 20 players and ?5? Scum there is a 1/4 chance scum is in every convo. Consolidation will be key as last minute vote swaps is both scum favoured and will make future vote count analysis almost useless.

Off the top of my head big topics are:
Exo/kelsier
Noobking/HF
Probably moosey and the self vote
Df and the roleplay
Slam vibe change
I cant tell if koshi is in the mix or mentiined as collateral

I think only non posters are sicklucker and rels


Thoughts before bed and wjthout properly reading page 21 onwards.
Moose is town
I have no issue with df. Not sure why others are annoyed.
Exo kelsier is tvt
Hf uncertain
Nk scum
Slam need to read medic to confirm vibe change

Dark horse read is one of palmar and hf is scum
Not sure which
Something tickled me weird with palmar. Will see if it still triggers me when i wake.
Hf here cos i found him to be a bit more flacid than i am used to in palmar presence. Could be a respect thing. Meh.

Nite
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
March 20 2018 13:41 GMT
#458
On March 20 2018 22:21 Vivax wrote:
Some thoughts I feel like sharing in inconclusive post manner.

- Almost purely tonally TT and NK look town to me.

- rsoultin hasn't been pestering anyone and might be mafia for it.

- Did anyone hijack Kelsiers account? Don't even want to decide what he is as long as he keeps posting.

- Koshi probably town for not giving a shit so far, will have confirmation when the town Koshi trademark posts start to pour in.

- ykl very diplomatic, could come from mafia, currently stuck deciding whether he's just catering to the people he answers to. However his filter leads me to Mocstas for this reason:

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2018 12:16 ykl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 12:01 Mocsta wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:32 ykl wrote:
Also, the whole reason Mocsta even called me out to begin with was that I thought Conversion's early call on n00bking was misguided.
Hi ykl,
Above is a gross simplification.

Refering to #232
TMI related to you expressing that: Ex0, Conversion, Moosey & n00bking are all "chasing down the wrong path".

This does not only infer they are all not scum. But that they are also all town - enough that further info is not needed.

Your explanation since does not address the Moosey/n00bking element either.

Post 10 / 14






Ah, that's pretty weird. Intention was only to say ExO- and Conversion are chasing down the wrong path, bad wording from my part. I wouldn't say that no further info is needed and they are all confirmed town, just that I don't read either of them as "scum" at the moment and that when I made the post, neither case was particularly well thought out?

I really don't have much to say about Moosy or n00bking. Moosy has been trying to off himself, which screams someone that really doesn't want to play the game or is frustrated about something, could swing either way to be honest? I don't think what he's doing is helpful at the moment but its ignorable.

n00bking, I really got more interested in the last post he made. Completely ignored the scumread from Conversion and does not seem to want to interact with him at all, instead makes a quick side track to challenge Ticktock instead.



I think it's odd here that Mocsta pays attention to the TMI element in the #232 post he links in the nested quote and emphasizes it when ykl said he doesn't think either are scum already which implies that there is at least a null read,

I also didn't like Mocstas post on TT. It was cute style-wise but also read like plain rhetoric without much substance cause the entire point was to ping TT for the sole reason that he hadn't been pinged yet.

I'd have found the part more interesting where he says:

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 10:54 ykl wrote:
On March 20 2018 10:30 Tictock wrote:
Hi ykl.

I hope you are prepared for how quickly this game is likely to pick up.

People usually throw out votes super early around here to kinda get the ball rolling, though it is up to you to determine how serious these votes are.

+ Show Spoiler +
Hint: Koshi's votes are not likely to be very serious


It sounds like you might be familiar with Forum Mafia, do you play on another site?

Eh, its fine. The filter just isolates posters right? pretty useful feature, the rest of the site could use it.
I've never played forum-based before, just other versions of Mafia.

Anyway, so that this isn't just a pointless spam post. I don't think I like the weird posting style darthfoley is using, seems like a deliberate attempt to muddy up waters for no good reason.


I don't like the early call out from Conversion or ExO-, both are very weak reads based off almost no data. I don't think either are scum but I think you'd be chasing down the wrong path.


Bolded is pretty much an example of a"let me go and look for something to write about on the go" mindset, but in a natural way. I think this particular case comes from town cause he's so brazen about it. Scum does it more accidentally.

To have the post actually end conclusively though, I need to point out something else and why I still think we should lynch ExO:

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2018 11:21 ExO_ wrote:
On March 20 2018 11:05 Vivax wrote:
And you still didn't explain why what you said makes moosy mafia.

Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that.


Again, if he knows the setup, posting asking to explain it is scummy to me.

Do you have any reads on anybody else? Or anything else? or are you just gonna yolo tunnel me as your one contribution?


I believe it's a very mafia thing to do to point at what the guy pressuring you isn't doing while he is busy with you, cause it's a way of getting rid of pressure by trying to play it back to him based on the posting quantity of said person.
the irony here is that i was tjinking the same thing exo was... oribably a personality tell va. Alignment then

Tixtock was a mistake by me.
I got lost in the style and later retracted. Treat it how yoy will
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
March 20 2018 13:41 GMT
#459
i'm going to step away for a few hours because i'm tilted and just being mean to people which is where I didn't want to be. I'll be posting again soon.

I like mocstas list a lot. less sure about vivax's but I have to read it properly.
Zerg for Life
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 20 2018 14:16 GMT
#460
On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.

I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.

I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.

##Vote: disformation

More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.

Our combined effort will make this world a better place.
I had a good night of sleep.
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