[M] Classic Mafia - Page 21

On March 20 2018 20:12 ExO_ wrote:


This is the main quote I'm referring to. This post reads to me like you want to know my opinion of you so you can then either scum read me if I still scum read you, or town read me if I town read you.

And I'm not leaving myself a backdoor to come after you later. But I'm not committing to you be a firm town or firm scum at this point. I'm leaning town on you now based on your more recent posts -- however it's hard for me to shake my early impressions of you. I have a really bad history of tunneling based on early reads though and I'm aware of it, so I'm trying to improve my own play.

On March 20 2018 20:05 Holyflare wrote:


Last game where noobking was mafia he just focused on "scum reading" me in an attempt to shit up the thread and cause confusion instead of calling people town or mafia and giving reasons. His play style as mafia (from a one game meta) was to ONLY point out logical fallacies and never actually scum hunt or see why people would make those mistakes.

Much the same here, noobking is far more concerned with arguing semantics and trivial details and when he has put a vote down on someone it is unexplained and sheeping a bad koshi post potentially (who knows if he doesn't ever explain?).

He was called out on this and instead of giving his view, explaining where he was coming from and trying to determine people's alignments he was content to shit on really minor wording about the word vote.

When I said that someone is scummy for calling me not blue and explaining the thought process he was more concerned defending why that person is town using, again, semantics rather than trying to look at a bigger picture.

Tl;dr

Concerned with logical fallacies and arguing rather than scum hunting. Like his last mafia game.

Trying to prove someone town by arguing semantics rather than scum hunting.

Sheeping koshi's read and not explaining anything other than arguing semantics.

On March 20 2018 20:07 Palmar wrote:
I didn't even really read his posts beyond the Chester Campbell stuff. It means nothing alignment-wise. It's just a decision from df to make himself intentionally difficult to read. That doesn't necessarily make him mafia, just makes him a bit of a dick.

Like the posts you just quoted could be posted as either alignment, and his motivation to post may both be that he wants to get something on the record (mafia) or that he just wants to establish his roleplay (no alignment information). Given that he has chosen to go with a roleplay, he may act like scum in the sense that he's posting just to post, because he's trying to show off his persona.

So yeah, I don't know what he is and I don't particularly care. If all the non-posters wake up and partake he's an excellent vigilante shot, but I have no real interest in trying to build a case on someone who's deliberately being difficult to read.

On March 20 2018 17:04 ykl wrote:

Sorry to burn your post quota like that but that actually did fly over my head.

Now to actually add to the conversation, I'm slightly more interested in the post where you scumread Ticktock, I'm not really seeing where you're drawing the conclusion that he is one from, care to help elaborate? I know you unvoted but it would still help if you can provide the reasoning behind what prompted you to do so in the first place.

On March 20 2018 20:16 KelsierSC wrote:


If I was concerned with people town reading me , then by your logic I should just be town reading you.

I find it interesting to see how people change their reads based on information available.

On March 20 2018 17:00 Holyflare wrote:
[red]Not really true.[red] Mafia want to post anything they can under the guise of scum hunting. Posting that I'm not a role isn't helping mafia in ANY way, it doesn't further any kind of scum read since I'm vt or mafia and it's just a completely empty read with nothing said. Good scum read.

On March 20 2018 20:31 Palmar wrote:
To clarify, I agree that the read by exo is stupid and shouldn't be made. I also agree with noobking (and hf?) that exo's read doesn't directly push any mafia agenda.

Aka, Exo might very well be mafia, but that read is at best a mistake then, it's not some kind of a slam dunk case that he must be. Townies are more prone to do stupid shit than mafia.

Like I don't hate ticktock's vote, i'm fine with some pressure on Exo

On March 20 2018 20:39 KelsierSC wrote:
Palmar. It's confusing.

I think HF disagrees with NK's point that exo's read helps mafia if exo is town. Hf makes the point that it doesn't help mafia AT ALL.

I assume the good scum read is about the read of exo being scum for fake scum hunting.

On March 20 2018 20:40 Palmar wrote:

I thought the "good scum read" was sarcasm

On March 20 2018 20:39 ExO_ wrote:


......At the time I made the read, HF hadn't made a single post of more than a sentence. Thus I thought she probably couldn't care less about furthering the discussion therefore she was likely scum, or vanilla town annoyed she doesn't have a role.

I wasn't saying this based off a deep understanding of Holy Flare, but in a more general sense. I do know that I've played a few games with HF and she seemed more active in pushing town than she did thus far in this game when I posted that. That has sense changed, but at the time I posted I felt like HF had to be either VT or scum

On March 20 2018 20:43 ExO_ wrote:
If HF is a he, I apologize...it's been a while and I forget...did think HF was a she but I might be entirely mistaken.

On March 20 2018 17:07 Holyflare wrote:


Scummy because he is doing the same thing he did last game of defending logic rather than elaborating on mafia reads and being fluid.