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On March 20 2018 20:27 Palmar wrote:So here's the argument as I understood it (I'm ignoring some early parts): 1) Exo claims hf is "not blue" 2) Ticktock votes Exo for this, claiming he doesn't believe exo has such a read (I agree, that's a stupid read) 3) noobking makes the claim that exo's read makes no sense from either perspective (aka, not really relevant) This is where I get confused. You respond with this hf: Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 17:00 Holyflare wrote:
[red]Not really true.[red] Mafia want to post anything they can under the guise of scum hunting. Posting that I'm not a role isn't helping mafia in ANY way, it doesn't further any kind of scum read since I'm vt or mafia and it's just a completely empty read with nothing said. Good scum read. In which you sound like you disagree with noobking (red) and then agree with him (green). Then you say "good scum read", when I don't really see him scumreading anyone, or is that referring to someone else? what am I missing?
Ticktock says makes exo mafia for irrelevant post. I agreed with ticktock.
Noobking says it doesn't make him mafia, in fact it makes him more likely TOWN because "it doesn't help mafia to post like that".
I disagree with his premise that it makes exo town. I still agree with ticktock that it makes exo more likely mafia. It's an irrelevant post that has no real reason to post it for. It looks like he's scum hunting by posting a read but it's not actually a read.
Then noobking argues with me that it doesn't try and look like scum hunting instead of anything to do with exo's motivation for posting in the first place. Drawn down to semantics.
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exo made a nonsensical claim. There is no such thing as "bluehunting". It is literally impossible to tell the difference between greens and blues. Thus, it's fine to pressure Exo into making reads that aren't just bullshit.
However, it's also true that bluehunting is just as much bullshit if he's mafia and town, so it's not really alignment indicative that he did it.
Also, no one is nitpicking into the Exo thing, this is about HF/noobking. Pay attention if you're gonna comment.
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Basically I minorly scum read exo for posting an irrelevant post. That's literally it and why I haven't pushed it further.
I more scum read noobking for dragging out an absolutely small post for no reason other than to argue mafia's motivation and town reading exo.
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On March 20 2018 20:54 Holyflare wrote:
Basically I minorly scum read exo for posting an irrelevant post. That's literally it and why I haven't pushed it further.
I more scum read noobking for dragging out an absolutely small post for no reason other than to argue mafia's motivation and town reading exo.
I'm gonna leave this be for now.
I need more ticktock and noobking in my life here.
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On March 20 2018 20:54 Holyflare wrote:
Basically I minorly scum read exo for posting an irrelevant post. That's literally it and why I haven't pushed it further.
I more scum read noobking for dragging out an absolutely small post for no reason other than to argue mafia's motivation and town reading exo.
Yeh I can agree with this.
I don't know if it makes nk more likely scum than exo.
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Pay attention..
Multiple parties including you and hf have independently said exo is scummy
Im following up that not hf/nk
On that note and outside the hf/nk clarifications,
I agree with others that nk is vibing same as last game. Arguing lots of semantics etc.
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On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.
I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.
I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.
##Vote: disformation
More votes on ykl would also be a good thing.
Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it
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On March 20 2018 21:00 Mocsta wrote:
Pay attention..
Multiple parties including you and hf have independently said exo is scummy
if we're arguing attention, this is just flat out incorrect.
But idk
dropping this line for now.
maybe re-read later to see who's commenting and not contributing.
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mocsta backing up hf's claim about noobking's chosen subjects does matter.
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On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.
I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.
I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.
##Vote: disformation
More votes on ykl would also be a good thing. Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it
disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read.
I could lynch disinformation 100%
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On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.
I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.
I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.
##Vote: disformation
More votes on ykl would also be a good thing. Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read. I could lynch disinformation 100%
But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.
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Dunnae about nk. Years' old memories of game(s?) and a vague recollection of coaching him make me find that less compelling because I'm pretty sure he was one of the newbies I coached who had a tendency to laser focus in on things that I found largely irrelevant.
TLDR would need to look at his town games to see if the nitpicking is actually NAI cause a bad memory suggests no
NK I think asked about my slam read? It's tonal. But he doesn't seem to be having as much fun and his play is more focused. Like he's still clearly posting youtube videos and whatnot so in your vernacular it seems that he is trying to seem playful, but his tone doesn't match up. If you recall he had an NK/HF team he was tinfoiling practically since he entered the game last game but still was highly responsive to practically everything happening in a thread. Like a puppy jumping from play toy to play toy. (Sorry, this is the best attempt I can make to explain tone and feels lol ><)
His ykl/ykr...yk whatever the name is read was a quick hop onto a meh read after he'd already scolded people for saying they'd found scum early etc etc. It read to me like 'hey don't be so quick to pull the trigger!' two seconds later 'bam!' with slam standing there holding a smoking gun.
I think the thing with ExO/KSC/rayn is probably just best explained by misunderstanding/poor reading comprehension. Y'all are free to keep pressuring ExO but yeah. That doesn't seem like it means anything lol ><
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On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.
I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.
I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.
##Vote: disformation
More votes on ykl would also be a good thing. Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read. I could lynch disinformation 100% But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.
he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.
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On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.
I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.
I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.
##Vote: disformation
More votes on ykl would also be a good thing. Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read. I could lynch disinformation 100% But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever.
*Note to self to look into because it washed past me in first readthrough.
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On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.
I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.
I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.
##Vote: disformation
More votes on ykl would also be a good thing. Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read. I could lynch disinformation 100% But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever. he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis.
Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided.
What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?
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I filter dived nk with tictock and some others prior
Look in general i find him to be a heavy introverted intuition user like rsoultin and myself and equally verbose as town or scum.
The main thing for me this game is the prodding that goes no where. I would have ezpected him to truly dig beyond the surface into something by now
Too hard to post on phone eith crying baby in othet hand.
Speak tomorrow
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Are you talking about that big case thing where he complains about you using the word "honesty"?
I mean, it's not 1 to 1, but I also cba reading in detail through that filter, and I don't really believe much in meta. mocsta confirming it is mostly enough for me to know you're not just making things up.
idk
I'm downgrading noobking to null
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On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's problem.
I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.
I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.
##Vote: disformation
More votes on ykl would also be a good thing. Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read. I could lynch disinformation 100% But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever. he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis. Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided. What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)?
I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment.
I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that.
I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote.
##Vote: disinformation
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apparently I had his name wrong the entire time.
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