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On March 21 2018 01:20 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Conversion, "his posts are scummy" is not a very convincing case. You seem like you are way too comfortable abandoning your read like that for the greater good of town.
And rsoultin I don't mean to be rude but I'm used to see you be way more cautious about my alignment. I don't recall the last time you just were happy to townread me that easily. When did I say I would ever leave my read? The situation where I'd consolidate is in the situation I do build a good case on him and no one agrees. What confuses me about n00bking is why he refuses to even briefly acknowledge that I want to lynch him. Why would any town just flat out refuse to discuss with the one person calling them scum, if even just to generate the reasons behind it? He's clearly active enough in the thread to nitpick certain posts, so I'm curious as to see if he's going to explain why he's not engaging me
I'm getting a dejavu from last game cause that's what AMG said about tubesock last game during D1 and they were both town.
I don't think that you being ignored is a sufficient argument for him being mafia.
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I have disformation at null. He's sort of helping me with exo by paying attention to the issue but then again if I were mafia with an exo in the spotlight it'd be hard to pretend he doesn't exist.
The noobking post is pretty much summary for the most part but I like his conclusion.
I don't see where ExO wants to strangle me though. I believe we've been civilized so far. That might be something disfo made up. Let's see what he says.
Reading his filter doesn't leave me with a conclusive read, I'd prefer to wait and see what keeps coming.
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On March 21 2018 01:25 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 01:20 Conversion wrote:On March 21 2018 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Conversion, "his posts are scummy" is not a very convincing case. You seem like you are way too comfortable abandoning your read like that for the greater good of town.
And rsoultin I don't mean to be rude but I'm used to see you be way more cautious about my alignment. I don't recall the last time you just were happy to townread me that easily. When did I say I would ever leave my read? The situation where I'd consolidate is in the situation I do build a good case on him and no one agrees. What confuses me about n00bking is why he refuses to even briefly acknowledge that I want to lynch him. Why would any town just flat out refuse to discuss with the one person calling them scum, if even just to generate the reasons behind it? He's clearly active enough in the thread to nitpick certain posts, so I'm curious as to see if he's going to explain why he's not engaging me I'm getting a dejavu from last game cause that's what AMG said about tubesock last game during D1 and they were both town. I don't think that you being ignored is a sufficient argument for him being mafia.
Hmm fair point to AMG with Tubesock. Although that's not the only reason I scum read n00b, but with this many people disagreeing with me I'll have to put in some more work reading other filters and such when I have the time.
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On March 21 2018 00:41 Conversion wrote:
My last post was horribly written.
I still think n00bking is scum, but if I have to consolidate for the greater good of town disfo would be the only person I would be comfortable getting off of n00bking for.
You're going to unpressure noobking because you want to consolidate 24 hours away from lynch? What a shit post.
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Right, and your post wasn't reeking of shit at all. Great posting there!
I'm off this thread as I'm in meetings until around 6PM EST. Toodles~
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cool I've always wanted to win an election. :D
On March 21 2018 01:33 Vivax wrote:
I have disformation at null. He's sort of helping me with exo by paying attention to the issue but then again if I were mafia with an exo in the spotlight it'd be hard to pretend he doesn't exist.
The noobking post is pretty much summary for the most part but I like his conclusion.
I don't see where ExO wants to strangle me though. I believe we've been civilized so far. That might be something disfo made up. Let's see what he says.
Reading his filter doesn't leave me with a conclusive read, I'd prefer to wait and see what keeps coming.
On March 20 2018 11:21 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 11:05 Vivax wrote:
And you still didn't explain why what you said makes moosy mafia.
Cause it doesn't and you also have no clue how you got to say that. Again, if he knows the setup, posting asking to explain it is scummy to me. Do you have any reads on anybody else? Or anything else? or are you just gonna yolo tunnel me as your one contribution?
added bold for emphasis.
will be back with time to actually play in a bit.
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On March 21 2018 01:41 Conversion wrote:
Right, and your post wasn't reeking of shit at all. Great posting there!
I'm off this thread as I'm in meetings until around 6PM EST. Toodles~
I take it back. Sorry.
Why do you feel the need to consolidate instead of push though?
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On March 21 2018 01:15 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 01:07 rsoultin wrote:On March 21 2018 00:58 Vivax wrote:
Conversion, "his posts are scummy" is not a very convincing case. You seem like you are way too comfortable abandoning your read like that for the greater good of town.
And rsoultin I don't mean to be rude but I'm used to see you be way more cautious about my alignment. I don't recall the last time you just were happy to townread me that easily. Lol, I'm not sure if it's your memory or mine that has the problem, then? Either way, I don't see how it matters; you either believe that it's a real read or you don't. I don't find you questioning me rude, btw. I find your way of reading me rude. (Which I'm pretty sure made an appearance in a similar form last game as well, so there's hardly any reason for me to not accept it as true). I just don't like being characterized as a gnat. Incidentally, that is part of why I'm reading you town now. Gnat read seems to be the genuine way that you read me. I'm not terribly gnatty when not devoting much time to a conversational approach to the game. So yeah, you could be scum using meta you would use as town, but occam's razor and all that. (Plus I'm not really sure that a scum Viva wants to go through the pain of making a scumread on me and then being bit to death if I don't find the read credible.) Not sure if that helps, but there you go. Also, post-game, I'm really curious about this gnat read. It's not how I see my own townplay at all lol >< I've called myself a gnat before but that's because I have to keep hammering at my scumread nails until I'm blue in the face usually for people to lynch them with me. Not for pestering? I'm not characterizing you as a gnat. I just know you pressure people for things you find scummy and I don't see it this game. You called Mocstas entrance bad but instead of pursuing that you meekly decided that there were also townie things while at the same time saying you should have reasons to be wary of him cause he fooled you in the past. I propose a rough list of person of interest. Obviously I would reciprocate if you agreed. But mostly I'm interested into where your mocsta read ended up until now.
The gnat thing came from pester lol which makes me think of an annoying insect. I'm not insulted.
I think I've been pretty transparent that I'm town-leaning mocsta? It's for nothing more than being kind of on the same page, but -shrugs- on D1 that's good enough for me to look elsewhere.
Slam is my lynch of choice presently. I've seen nothing to change my mind.
There's a bit of tinfoil with ykl that perhaps scummates might be pinging him because they know he's scum and that's why the reasons are so flimsy, but I really have no reason to read him anything.
Disfo I haven't looked into but probably will have to given the direction of the thread.
I don't really want to lynch ExO off feels and rainbows and people wanting to lynch him for bad reasons.
So I guess the better way to answer your question is:
Towny
Rayn
KSC
Townish
Mocsta
Viva
Could be town?
ExO
koshi
Won't lynch D1
Rels
And everyone else is technically lynchable because I don't have strong feelings about them one way or the other. Rels I just obviously don't find his non-play alignment indicative on D1 and like having him in the game if he's town.
I'm not 100% on slam being scum but I feel pretty good on that read. Can't explain it better than I already have, though.
This is my attempt at not being too spammy and burying people in a game. It's also partially because I'm trying be more productive at home so I don't feel like a lazy mooch at the end of the day. I can't blame people for noticing a difference lol ><
I have nothing planned for tomorrow until 2pm so I will have some time then to look into everything and engage with people if anyone is around.
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On March 21 2018 01:57 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2018 01:41 Conversion wrote:
Right, and your post wasn't reeking of shit at all. Great posting there!
I'm off this thread as I'm in meetings until around 6PM EST. Toodles~ I take it back. Sorry. Why do you feel the need to consolidate instead of push though?
A meeting ended early! No way!
No need to apologize, it's part of the gamez.
To the actual question, I just haven't put the time in to really flesh anything else out, so I was more talking of a future where I did put the time in to filter dive and reread n00bking's with more scrutiny. Right now I am keeping my vote on him and meant to say that if I put in more effort and no one was buying it, I would consolidate to only to disfo (if it came to it)
Although maybe it's better just to stick to my guns. who knows
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aight. a shame this is no m13. feel like in a m13 3 votes + ppl already being willing to consolidate on me there would be a really high chance for scum being in there.
hoshi:
has done this minimalistic / no fucks given D1 stuff as town before. even got him ml d1 in a game I was in for it.
thing that confuses me is that he seemed to have a really good read on me in a recent game.
so a bit paraboid, but would not want to lynch atm.
ksc:
no idea why that dude is so angry.
other than that his filter looks like he is actually trying to figure out the game.
though. It is somewhat puzzling to me that he understands koshi's read on me, cause I figured that to be more of a meta thing? hm. actually think he saw something else but similar in my post? *shrugs*
gonna call him town for actually trying to figure stuff out.
nk:
still has the least explained vote on me. and that is not an easy feat given how detailed the reads/votes of ksc and hoshi are. HF's posts on him also were not bad. decent scum chance I guess. though as conv pointed out, he also is giving no fucks. like wouldn't have scum pulled _some_ excuse to vote me out of their ass by now?
conv:
hm. actually fairly locked in on nk for most of his filter. somewhat annoyed at md. think some ppl posted he sounds a bit forced? not really getting that feeling tbh. would feel better if he had more reads than like nk as scum and me as implied scum lean? super lukewarm.
so. if there is scum on me it's prolly nk or maybe conv. full paranoia on koshi if he is alive like d4or something. if all four of them are town imma be somewhat sad.
dinner and then I want to look at exo and his vote on ksc again.
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On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 12:16 n00bKing wrote:
I don't know how to "unlock" Alakaslam, and make him do stuff that's productive (if, in fact, that is a thing that can be accomplished). So I'll make that someone else's javascript:addUBB_selected('reply_area', 'spoiler')problem.
I would support nearly any course of action that makes darthfoley stop doing what he's doing.
I like Koshi's vote on disfo, so I'm gonna join that effort.
##Vote: disformation
More votes on ykl would also be a good thing. Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read. I could lynch disinformation 100% But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever. he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis. Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided. What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)? I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment. I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that. I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote. ##Vote: disinformation
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On March 20 2018 21:35 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:33 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 21:30 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:22 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 21:19 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:14 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 21:12 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:09 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 21:07 KelsierSC wrote:On March 20 2018 21:02 ExO_ wrote:
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Was this ever explained? Because Koshi's vote is really crap with no explanation, and this vote was thrown out there and then nothing else really done with it disinfo soft defending moosy early on. I can understand that scum read. I could lynch disinformation 100% But Noobking never says that -- Noobking references Koshi's vote as his reason for also voting disinfo -- however Koshi has no substance whatsoever. he probably read that Koshi was scum or VT which is a pretty solid basis. Again, without posting any of this. You're providing reasons for him that he didn't provide for himself and then agreeing with the reasons you provided. What's your opinion on Koshi, and sheeping Koshi -- both ways here (if he read Koshi as VT or Koshi as scum)? I was being facetious with the scum/VT comment. I looked at koshi's vote with the quote above it and decided I could lynch dis for that. I have no opinion on koshi but I like the vote. ##Vote: disinformation This really baffles me. You have no opinion on Koshi, and the other two people voting Disinfo have offered no information for a Disinfo vote.... I don't know it seems really weird to me that I point out something odd with NK, you provide a defense for him, and then join the wagon with two others who have offered no reasoning for voting him. koshi did offer a reason for voting him. it's in the quote. I already said I was being facetious I am offering no "defence" for NK. I just like koshi's reason. I assume NK did too. I can see you are not reading "super closely" again. but yeh keep calling stuff weird and being baffled. really helpful. On March 20 2018 10:06 Koshi wrote:On March 20 2018 09:42 disformation wrote:
just for the record: moosy asking bout the setup is fairly nai. totally in his town range. ##vote disformationIt's ok. You tried. You're trying to brush me off, but this quote doesn't look like much of a reason to me. ok then don't vote and talk about something else. Honestly you are either scum or town with zero reading comprehension so you aren't that important.
+ Show Spoiler +Just gonna let you know that you've been toxic as hell this whole game and you should probably stop
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On March 20 2018 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
I absolutely side with exo on this one. Koshi's post is not a reason and voting with it is bad. Sarcastic quips to belittle exo when he's doing nothing particularly wrong is bad.
+100.
Is Kelscier being a dick alignment indicative? Or is it more of a general state of being?
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On March 21 2018 03:02 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
I absolutely side with exo on this one. Koshi's post is not a reason and voting with it is bad. Sarcastic quips to belittle exo when he's doing nothing particularly wrong is bad. +100. Is Kelscier being a dick alignment indicative? Or is it more of a general state of being?
dunno. from what I've gathered that is generally not typical of KSC.
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On March 21 2018 03:02 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 21:43 Holyflare wrote:
I absolutely side with exo on this one. Koshi's post is not a reason and voting with it is bad. Sarcastic quips to belittle exo when he's doing nothing particularly wrong is bad. +100. Is Kelscier being a dick alignment indicative? Or is it more of a general state of being?
Back when Kelsier actually played? Yeah. He's fairly aggressive. Plus I'm pretty sure he's town, so there's that. I can't 100% say he couldn't post like this as scum, but my recollection of his scum games when he was an active player was he'd never really dig his teeth into anything and then just afk through the game.
Kinda like he does now as both alignments when he decides not to play as town lol >< Though, to be fair, he was more present as scum than he generally is these days. Or, at least that's my impression.
This looks a lot like the old town KSC to me.
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I've skimmed up while I'm supposed tk be working.
Towny
Palmar
Rso
Hf
Didform
Not towny
Kelsier
Noobking
Moose
Back to work ask me why if you must
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On March 21 2018 03:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
I've skimmed up while I'm supposed tk be working.
Towny
Palmar
Rso
Hf
Didform
Not towny
Kelsier
Noobking
Moose
Back to work ask me why if you must
Yeah, you're going to need to explain why lol ><
None of those three you have up there with me are anyone I could confidently call town. (Also not sure how people should be reading me when I'm playing differently.) Disinfo could be town for his Viva read but I don't really see anything else in his filter but waffles and fluff.
I could invent reasons you're scumreading your not town lynch, but I'd much prefer you explain them yourself.
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Day 1 Vote Count
disformation [3]: Koshi, n00bking, KelsierSC
ExO_ [2]: Vivax, Tictock
n00bking [2]: Conversion, Holyflare
KelsierSC [2]: ExO_, darthfoley
ykl [1]: Alakaslam
Tictock [0]: Mocsta
Palmar [0]: Koshi
Not Voting [10]: Mocsta, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, ykl, Rels, disformation, Palmar, Fecalfeast, sicklucker, MoosyDoosy
disformation is currently the lynch.
The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 21 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
If there is an error in the vote count, let us know via PM.
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I think HF and Vivax are probably town. ExO is perfect lynch bait as always. I've yet to decide what I think of him, but I like that he isn't a fan of Kelscier, so on the townier side of null ATM.
I'm voting Kelscier partially because he's been the least enjoyable player so far, and partially because I think ExO made a fairly decent point that I agree with about Kelscier's vote on disformation. Of course, Kelscier just called him terrible and said that he didn't really matter.
Really proving TLMafia skeptics like Mocsta and n00bking wrong with posts like that!
I don't really see what rayn and rsoultin are saying about Slam. Don't have much recent experience with him but his posts strike me as they did last game.
I also agree with HF and Mocsta's assessment with n00bking this game. He just is sooo focused on semantics and nitty gritty details in a way that feels intentional-- as to intentionally miss the proverbial forest for the trees.
Things like this
On March 20 2018 17:34 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 15:56 rsoultin wrote:
Slam is not giving me the adorable aimless vibes. I usually love reading his posts and keeping him around. Might be scum.
Can you describe the difference between his posts in this game, and the last? I think you'd agree that if they aren't the same thing, they are at least *meant* to *look* like the same thing. So what's keeping them from looking like the same thing?
Like why does this matter? Idk and you don't either.
Lastly, I said Conversion was on Chester Campbell's good list earlier, but he's 'ad a change of 'eart. Conversion is now questionable.
n00bking/Kelscier/rsoultin/Conversion/rayn/Palmar are people of interest in Chester's investigation as of now.
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