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raynpelikoneet
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ill submit: rayn kill: rsoultin rayn jail: mocsta palmar kill: tictock palmar watch: mocsta and watch the thread. think mocsta just posted some stuff on you... maybe tina changes her opinion again Uh.. disformation. Aside from not jailing rsoultin why were we even jailing and watching the same guy?  | ||
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Mocsta
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raynpelikoneet
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Vivax 03-25-2018 04:04 PM ET (US) N00bking reminds me a bit of gumshoe lol never,.,, | ||
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Vivax
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Yea idk how I got to thinking that after rereading a bunch of posts from gs. But I like the way NK posts. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
that's why. you guys wanted me dead. lol >< didn't count that jking me would have ended the game but i totes get that it's like...if we block her we can't kill her yeeeeaaahh i'm going to pretend my play through d2 wasn't shite, and that i wasn't scumreading koshi and moosy when i died and be like \o/ played well! -snorts- i honestly just started trying hard to play the game n2 cause i knew if i got rb'd and palmar was almost definitely mafia so i should get rb'd the game was over. but maybe i could make them rethink the blueread by being 'we have to shoot her rsoul', or at least game them by townreading palmar so that i could then jk him and stop a shot lol >< kinda expected the game to end n2 tbf though @mocsta, good read man. if i have as many doubts on rayn as i did this game again i'm going to know not to dismiss it as paranoid in future lol >< | ||
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rsoultin
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dumb trusting rsoul lol | ||
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rsoultin
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raynpelikoneet
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I have honestly no idea where TT got his read on me because everything he said was wrong. My moosy read for example was really easy to find, here; On March 20 2018 17:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because ha cannot work with incomplete information which results in this. At this point Moosy had posted all the first page of the game and then basically just trolled. Which is in line of his town play since he has no clue what to do, especially early on, when working with incomplete information. Obviously i didn't care if you think i am mafia with him at that point. The other points you also made were very wrong, like sheeping Koshi and Vivax, when i specifically had never sheeped Koshi and my whole "read" on Vivax was even after he died "super paranoid -> wrong -> can't convince anyone", i never even entertained any of the reads Vivax had so i have no idea where you got that stuff. It was funny df scumread me for being boring and not doing what he thinks is boring at the same time... | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 28 2018 14:08 rsoultin wrote: if i have as many doubts on rayn as i did this game again i'm going to know not to dismiss it as paranoid in future lol >< I will tell you a secret, after, or well starting from 1-day mafia i have been playing mostly against you when i am mafia aka breaking my meta because i am not sure what i can get away with and not with you the most. I am so rude. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 27 2018 07:41 Mocsta wrote: mafia is a team game for both alignments. have correct suspicion, doesn't meet the game definition of winning. wasnt this already debated prior when damdred got lynched d1 with correct reads. you still need to convince people to lynch them - otherwise pointless. Thats why I will always have respect for marvellosity. There was this game he created a fake account years ago as fivetouch. as a complete nobody he got the entire town onside and lynched mafia day1. Very real crisis leadership. i dont think any of the players in this game could do that; many are relying on reputations due to "correct suspicions". The closest may actualy be Koshi, but for different reasons to fivetouch. Koshi as town *CAN* be very involving from what I have seen in 2018. Again, this is why he is scum this game. ciao. Also Mocsta, this post is very wrong. If i am completely honest here, while marvellosity is/was one of the best town players the only reason he is so good is because he cannot play as mafia. I have almost zero respect for people who can only play as one alignment, or well.. are only good as town because people naturally believe them as they are basically confirmed town, and for example Holyflare is on a completely different level because he can actually play as mafia and for that reason has to ACTUALLY work on convincing people as town when not confirmed. And still manages to lead. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 28 2018 14:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: I will tell you a secret, after, or well starting from 1-day mafia i have been playing mostly against you when i am mafia aka breaking my meta because i am not sure what i can get away with and not with you the most. I am so rude. fucking hell >< and here i was...god he has played to how i read him before...but it's a 20 player game i don't think he bothers with just me here... you ass lol >< also, apparently if i hadn't been a dumbass and thought I'd outed myself to palmar i wouldn't have know that y'all knew, and wouldn't have tried to game you -snickers- that's kinda...hilarious i would never have known i had to play fake out the scum if i hadn't been an idiot in the first place \o/ | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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rsoultin
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buuuut shoulda woulda coulda that's easy to claim. the ham on palmar bit definitely woulda happened though i'm clearly shite at crumbs. koshi got it i think <3 everyone else didn't? | ||
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rsoultin
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On March 28 2018 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tina i didn't really got you were blue and i don't know why Palmar and / or disfo decided to watch you N1 but it was a really good call. Only thing i said about night actions was "if i am getting tracked or something i will blame you guys" when they were about to make me deliver a kill. eh i was playing shite and mafia knew i was town. not shocked honestly | ||
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Mocsta
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On March 28 2018 14:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I hope as a fact thats not true; so its a shame you felt that way.Mocsta, i really felt like this game you called everyone who disagreed with you either bad or scum and refused to contribute with them until i said that on the last day (and still you didn't listen to me :p). I think day3 is a different story as its LYLO, and so many qusetion marks in general. Im always willing to listen to what people say; but, my interpretation of what they are saying is heavily influenced by what I perceive their intention. This is a messy way of saying I don't treat all facts the same way! Its very hard to emulate this, and its certainly something I don't do as scum because it does put so much heat on you. Like you + palmar ebbed in/out of being scummy to me all game; so kudos for changing post strat to suit. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On March 28 2018 14:31 Mocsta wrote: I hope as a fact thats not true; so its a shame you felt that way. I think day3 is a different story as its LYLO, and so many qusetion marks in general. Im always willing to listen to what people say; but, my interpretation of what they are saying is heavily influenced by what I perceive their intention. This is a messy way of saying I don't treat all facts the same way! Its very hard to emulate this, and its certainly something I don't do as scum because it does put so much heat on you. Like you + palmar ebbed in/out of being scummy to me all game; so kudos for changing post strat to suit. -flops on- I really, really like the n2 town circle we had going though. You, tt, and df helped me tons by being such easy townreads. And leading me to disfo. You guys had every right to want to quit but hung in there. I'm the only one who knew we had a chance but couldn't really say it lol >< Sorry for steering people wrong on the raynman >> | ||
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Mocsta
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On March 28 2018 14:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Its a subjective & I dont think we are talking about the same scenario whatsoever.Also Mocsta, this post is very wrong. If i am completely honest here, while marvellosity is/was one of the best town players the only reason he is so good is because he cannot play as mafia. I have almost zero respect for people who can only play as one alignment, or well.. are only good as town because people naturally believe them as they are basically confirmed town, and for example Holyflare is on a completely different level because he can actually play as mafia and for that reason has to ACTUALLY work on convincing people as town when not confirmed. And still manages to lead. People might be predisposed to be cautious of HF; but there is still brand reputation which is what i was commenting about. Leading a large game town without brand reputation is a different skill set then being generally proficient at mafia - one that is more applicable to working with people in real life. HF is no doubt a great mafia player; both effective and influential. However, if his real job was to influence people; the tactics in mafia I dont believe are effective. At least not in my professional experience. At least the aspect of peoples motives is similar between reality and mafia  | ||
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