[M] Classic Mafia - Page 190

On March 28 2018 14:28 rsoultin wrote:
also ftr if i'd blocked the kp on me rather than tt, i would have retracted the koshi 100% scumread and just gone ham on palmar >> mostly cause not shiny could equal blue and rb is such a dumb claim

buuuut

shoulda woulda coulda that's easy to claim. the ham on palmar bit definitely woulda happened though i'm clearly shite at crumbs. koshi got it i think <3 everyone else didn't?

On March 28 2018 14:37 Mocsta wrote:

u crumbed? dayam.

i wasnt going to look through 19 page filter for it! hahah

On March 26 2018 07:58 rsoultin wrote:
If I Die Before I Wake

Koshi 100% scum. All you need to see that is reading his posts post-flip. Too happy about players getting themselves modkilled, the comment about Slam, etc. Add to that his complete lack of influence on the game.

*Palmar 98% scum. I lied The way he delurked on weekend to attack n00bking both when NK first brought up the contradiction in his perception of blue claims, and when NK claimed blue, is not only opportunistic but counter to how Palmar normally plays weekends as town. Which is to say, he doesn't. Moreover, it was a classic strawman argument that he made. Namely, that he was saying he didn't push it as he should in the last game so NK was lying. But obviously he 1) did push it with just a few minutes left to go and 2) if he saw it as a mistake he's more likely to try to get such blue claims lynched harder in the future. A strawman argument, given Palmar, doesn't make him scum normally but I'd say it almost certainly does when he makes it seriously. If I get nk'd tonight, he's also probably the reason. Though, to be fair, I probably was going to get NK'd regardless of the scum team. Also, his reactions after the flips were only slightly better than koshi's.

(sorry, rayn. I did find your point plausible, I just don't think he thinks people are going to go digging up old games to see if his approach to the game on that specific point line up. And I actually think it makes disfo a bit more likely to be scum, as well)

Moosy 90% scum. I think there's an eentsy beentsy chance I'm just expecting too much of him. I think he's hoping to bank on Rayn's read and a general perception that he's just a trolly, useless player. To me, he never has been. And because I don't want to call him useless or anything if I happen to be wrong here, I'm just going to say this would have to be a very off game for him given the Moosy I remember, to reduce his game post flips to blind associations everywhere and little interaction with other players.

disformation 60% scum. Wasn't lying about saying fuck it regarding filters. So this is more feels and intuition based off his play in vendee where he was pretty on the ball and off doing whatever he wanted and dumping analysis into the thread. Here it's less like he's poking into things and finding things that interest him, but rather being led by the nose where to sniff. I don't mind waffling when I can see people have points in favor and points against that they want to express to show what's making them unsure. With him, though, there's just too many posts where he talks without really saying anything, like his read on Moosy. That's a different kind of waffle. Caveat is yeah, I'm basing this off two games and confirming he can be active as fuck as scum.

FF 55% town. Putting him at a slight townread because of how he interacted with me at EoD 2. It just seemed very open and honest, like a puppy ;o; This is obviously a very weak read and if I'm wrong on anyone it's probably him and one of disfo/moosy (more likely disfo than moosy).

DF, TT, rayn and Mocsta are always town here (even though I'd love for Mocsta to be our friendly neighborhood SK ;o;). You can of course disagree. But I still stand by my scum probably has next to no motivation to play when the game could probably literally end tonight. Rayn's outburst I don't think ever comes from scum for reasons I've already said.

Coag...if this is the game man, kudos?

On March 28 2018 14:36 rsoultin wrote:


-flops on- I really, really like the n2 town circle we had going though. You, tt, and df helped me tons by being such easy townreads. And leading me to disfo. You guys had every right to want to quit but hung in there. I'm the only one who knew we had a chance but couldn't really say it lol ><

Sorry for steering people wrong on the raynman >>

On March 28 2018 14:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think it's subjective. I also don't think a mafia game has much to do with "job to influence people".

On March 28 2018 14:41 Mocsta wrote:
All good. I think everyone had someone they was not willing to budge on.

Vivax = Kelsier
rsoultin = Rayn
TT = Disfo

and so, on.

Tough game and # of blues was lol. Sure this was a classic ;P ?

On March 28 2018 14:39 rsoultin wrote:


Lol >< I asterixed his name? Plus I said I'd lied about townreading him? I guess it was too subtle? Or I just assumed people would get into my head and connect the dots between 'why would she lie about a read', oh 'she's jk it was to get the jk off on scum' heh

On March 28 2018 14:41 Mocsta wrote:
Good for you.

On March 28 2018 14:43 rsoultin wrote:

only after his drunk post @.@ which you were right on, incidentally

and TT makes a ton of sense. i can't blame him for thinking that there can't be a mafia vet when he gets vet returned as a role

just like i can't blame people in general for wanting to lynch into blues with so many blue claims. the balance wasn't what we're used to seeing

On March 28 2018 14:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Well, do you think there is a job where your boss comes weekly and says either "now you need to offer these people the best deal possible", or alternatively "now you need to lie to these people and look like you're selling good shit but give them dog poo instead and also you need to make it look like it wasn't you". And you never know what's it gonna be next week.

On March 28 2018 14:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Influencing people in real life is far easier than in mafia because you only have to play "one alignment", whatever that is.

On March 28 2018 14:48 rsoultin wrote:
trying to figure out how to crumb well enough that people can find them but not so overtly that you give mafia a ton of information before you flip is hard @.@

i'm not a good blue player

at least this time i didn't claim d2 thinking missing kp meant i'd jk'd scum without pausing to think about the other scenarios, and then my lovely friend who always scumreads me (ExO) who was an alignment cop, outs to say i'm godfather because his town result was colored green and not blue. i saw it coming (not the last bit, just the lead up to the role reveal) and was like, no, no, they have a framer stop ;o; now two blues will have claimed for nothing. but it was even sillier lol ><

incidentally palmar and sl were scum there and won that game too lol ><

On March 28 2018 14:54 Mocsta wrote:
Lol. hey, you did something absolutely right n2 to keep the game going, so well done!

dont beat yaself up.. hey.. im the guy that genuinely thought mafia could only be strongman or backup and outed myself.
i never recovered from that - at least thats my excuse this game

I was hoping our first town-town game would have resulted in at least one successful lynch

On March 28 2018 14:57 rsoultin wrote:


lol it might have...this game was weird in many ways @.@ bad reads don't help \o/

you're super fun to play with though so I hope you keep playing

i also really enjoy playing with df? don't want to get that convo started again but yeah, just putting that out there

then again joni is a good friend and i've never minded ksc so maybe i'm just jaded lol