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shouldn't this: Roleblocker > Jailkeeper > Framer > Medic > Vigilante > Mafia KP > Cop be: Roleblocker > Jailkeeper > Framer > Medic > Vigilante = Mafia KP > Cop ? Or is it intentional that if a vigi shoot a mafia carrying the KP the mafia KP does not go through? | ||
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On February 03 2018 04:53 Skynx wrote: I looked up some games to see in what order it usually is. It does seem coin-flippy actually awarding 1 more day to town. I'm up for suggestions on balance Just make the KP resolve simultaneously. | ||
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On February 06 2018 05:39 rsoultin wrote: You know, it's funny, but unless I'm skimming too fast, there's really nothing in the thread that specifically precludes a potential serial killer... -eyes Conversion- what? :o | ||
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On February 06 2018 05:56 rsoultin wrote: Lol, I'm amazed you think I have a point I actually did think you have a point since you told me to not get into the middle of the "conversation". | ||
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On February 06 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote: What a pointless conversation about pointless conversations. It is not a pointless conversation from my end because i find it really hard to believe that rsoultin was just joking from the beginning, or if she was, i find it really hard to believe that she cannot see my point and clear it up immediately. She is pushing a pointless conversation, or trying to make it look like it is. I am not quite sure why she would do that as town. | ||
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On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote: So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor. @Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though. This doesn't make any sense at all. I don't see how it would be more or less "unnatural place to go" as any alignment. I asked you a very simple question (which is btw completely clear and not obscure at all) which to i predicted an "i was just joking" or what you said in case you're not. I find it even funnier that you seem to be calling me mafia because of it, as... well... i was actually right in that you did have some kind of a point, regardless of how strong it was. I don't even care about the point (because i definitely don't agree with it on any level), i care more about the fact that you seem to be dragging the conversation, that yes - was completely pointless, for no real purpose. In short, you're just saying stuff that has no relevance to anyone's alignment, you're jsut making shit up. | ||
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Holyflare can be either dumb or mafia. | ||
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On February 06 2018 13:47 Trfel wrote: Fair enough. I feel that when someone asks a question, gets a response, and doesn't mention it again, that they didn't really care about it in the first place, but I'm willing to drop this point. This is not true Trfel. At least i know i drop discussing the point if the answer satisfies me. | ||
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On February 06 2018 14:22 Conversion wrote: Meh, probably shouldn't have posted at this hour. I'll concede that I glossed over that part of my filter, so I fucked up there. This post is very confusing to me. Can someone with better english tell me what this actually means because to me it reads "i misread my filter and made a wrong conclusion because of it". | ||
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On February 06 2018 14:22 Conversion wrote: Meh, probably shouldn't have posted at this hour. I'll concede that I glossed over that part of my filter, so I fucked up there. But that post to ritoky was making him try to commit to something, not trying to get him get onto the rsoultin train. I just am confused as to why you're doing this thing where you bring up a good point, then right after misrepresent another thing I do/say into a fitting argument.. Conversion could you tell me which part of Trfel's post is the bolded part an answer to? | ||
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Mocsta, while your case is essentially all correct i do not think that in general makes anyone mafia. At least all the points. However since you haven't played that much with Tina it makes sense you make a case like that. The point i find most damning about her is that the argument is towards me. I specifically asked for Damdred because he is one of the players who can actually understand the following point. The feeling i get from rsoultin's posts is that he is trying to downplay me, for a reason i don't understand at all. Especially the comments "You were unable to leave it alone" and "lacking a sense of humor" make me feel like she thinks i am stupid or something, when in fact i asked a perfectly reasonable (and correctly predicted -- i mean in a sense that she DID have a point) question. But when the answer finally came i should have let it go earlier (why?) or learn some humor (why? it wasn't a joke). The real problem isn't her saying so, it is her saying so towards a player she herself claims calls her mafia for stupid reasons when she is town -- aka, if you felt like that you should never ever act this way towards the player because the end result is what you claim "always happens". What you should do, is that when that player interacts towards you you are precise in your answers to prevent that from happening. And that was not all she did, she even threw some gas into the flames by saying things that were not only incorrect but from my opinion only designed to irritate. Damdred knows this, i believe he knows this from this exact point of view. Which is why i wanted his opinion. I believe ritoky knows this aswell. The reason i think he might be mafia is that he doesn't really take part into the actual conversation about rsoultin at all, he just invents a nonsense reason to call rsoultin an alignment and not talk about it further. The reason is especially nonsense because yes, while that is what often happens when rsoultin is mafia, the last game rsoultin was mafia she got called out and "shat on" because of exactly that reason. I find it very hard to believe she would continue the "trend" as mafia, soooo yeah.. the reasoning ritoky uses to townread rsoultin is nonsense. I have kind of mixed feelings about Holyflare's approach to this situation. On the other hand i can see reasons why he would attack me as town in that situation, on the other hand the last game where rsoultin was mafia she treated Holyflare in an exact same (imo just in more exaggerated) way early on in the game, so i have problems figuring out why he can't see my point. Also i feel like the vote on Koshi was actually well justified, the reason he dropped it for wasn't, at all. | ||
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On February 06 2018 16:56 Holyflare wrote: I don't like her follow up. I agree with that much. I just think your initial points were overblown and I wanted to see if it was pointless pressure or not. I don't understand since i made the exact same points i am making now. | ||
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On January 19 2018 05:10 darthfoley wrote: I need to reread Damerion's back and forth with Damdred, but it felt like a "trust me dude" meta read which isn't a lot to go on unless he was trying to bait a reaction. On the other hand, Damdred pulling a BTDT and being a little dramatic is not what I would expect from Damdred over a simple accusation on D1. where he brushed off an argument when it was the main discussion point in the game, then said he needs to reread it and never followed up with it. I see sort of similar behavior this game where he just ignores the main argument in the game because "you guys make too big posts". Yes, the "Mocsta doesn't impress you, but seem to agree with everything he's saying and doing about rsoultin" from Trfel is an addition to this. | ||
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mderg is probably town too and giving it a bit more thought Conversion too. | ||
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On February 06 2018 17:27 Holyflare wrote: I don't agree with your "she's dismissing me" points and the points about her picking out a sk of all things. I agree that her tone feels off and she isn't doing much to figure things out from this barrage though. That's about it. Okay, i will quote the whole convo between us: rsoultin: something about Conversion rayn: what? :o rsoultin: tells me not to intervene the conversation (honeslt idc what she claims this is exactly what she did) i wait conversion answers rayn: now what was the point? rsoultin: Lol, I'm amazed you think I have a point rayn: I actually did think you have a point since you told me to not get into the middle of the "conversation". rsoultin: Did I? rayn: I don't know how to interpret your post #62 if it is not saying that. HF: what a pointless convo Now at this point i tell why i think this is scummy and i say the exact same things i did later on. You vote for me. Are you seriously saying you do not think she's dismissing me, or are you seriously saying you can't see my point. I don't even understand how you change your mind after that since the conversation doesn't go on, so there is pretty much no follow up from rsoultin. | ||
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On February 06 2018 17:53 rsoultin wrote: And you still seem to see as scummy. This has nothing to do with you equating it with you not agreeing with me about something that i think is self-evident and i do not wish to continue this conversation. | ||
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Tina, i never thought your initial jump on Conversion's SK comment made you anything. I am not sure if i have been clear on that or not, i just found it the comment interesting since i didn't understand it. That's why i asked you about it in the first place, since your posts here: On February 06 2018 05:28 rsoultin wrote: Lol, dude, you actually had me checking to see if there were a possible serial killer in this game @.@ and here: On February 06 2018 05:39 rsoultin wrote: You know, it's funny, but unless I'm skimming too fast, there's really nothing in the thread that specifically precludes a potential serial killer... -eyes Conversion- clearly imply you think something about it. The problem is that to myself that was very clear that you had some sort of a point, otherwise the posts above are just bullshit and you have to be mafia. I never really caredf about what the point is (well ofc unless it is completely BS). I just wanted to see if you have a point or not. Your answer here: @Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. ..there is nothing wrong in that, however what's wrong is this: rayn: now what was the point? rsoultin: Lol, I'm amazed you think I have a point rayn: I actually did think you have a point since you told me to not get into the middle of the "conversation". rsoultin: Did I? rayn: I don't know how to interpret your post #62 if it is not saying that. This part tells me you are mafia, because i don't think you would approach the situation like this especially considering the person you are "arguing" with is me. Because you know how i interpret things. I find two problems here: 1) Given your conclusion in the end (i already quoted that) you should imo realize why i am asking you what i did 2) Given that you know how i play you shouldn't be acting like that (prolonging the conversation and not giving a straight answer when you sure do have one) towards me. A bit later on i also find these quite hilarious. On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote: So tempted to call you a pointless conversation right now. Though maybe more tempted to call Joni scum for lacking a sense of humor. @Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though. and, On February 06 2018 06:31 rsoultin wrote: I honestly don't care if you see it or not. Nor was I in any way dragging on the conversation. You were unable to leave it alone  The only real question is whether or not that makes you mafia.Mocsta jumping right on board with it isn't giving me amazing feels, either, after his last follow the thread sentiment while inventing a 'creative' reason scum game. I find the red bolded parts just completely BS because i don't see what has humor to do with any of this and yes, you literally dragged the conversation. You can answer this if you want to but i am not sure if you should bother since i am quite sure i won't change my mind regardless of what you say so maybe you'äre better just leave it and go find mafia in case you're not one. | ||
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On February 06 2018 18:24 rsoultin wrote: Joni thinks she's scum, let me add my hipster reason to it. Mocsta's reasoning absolutely makes sense, that's probably what i would write being me and not knowing you better. | ||
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On February 06 2018 18:33 Holyflare wrote: Even though you're just repeating the same things that I disagreed with. I'm changing my stance to agreement. I am just doing it because i don't really like rsoultin trying to make the case look like something that it is not. Not saying that's even necessarily scummy, maybe she just genuinely doesn't understand what i am saying (which is kind of my problem and why i have to repeat things). | ||
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On February 06 2018 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: What is the "half-town" read? ritoky? | ||
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On February 06 2018 20:00 ritoky wrote: that mocsta is town. it is pretty much purely on the heuristic that the highest activity player d1 is almost always town. because his obsession with his nothing-burger case does not inspire any further confidence in me about his alignment. so rsoultin and Trfel arent townreads after all? I mean if Mocsta is "half town" based on a shitty heuristic, i am quite sure you should consider your almost as shitty smiley read more convincing and Trfel is always town so i cannot understand why anyone should not read him as town as Mocsta in the first place. I don't understand the strength of HF read and i think it is BS but i concede to the point you could possibly maybe sometimes think so as town. | ||
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On February 06 2018 20:11 ritoky wrote: i mean i was confident until you told me she got nailed for it last game, then i looked and it was kinda true; so i lost some confidence in it. i was banking on using the read i invented years ago to get a sneakster read, but it appears people still plagiarize my reads shamelessly. trfel took a quote out of context pretty bad, so he doesn't get to sit at the table anymore. I am sorry but i cannot tell if you are telling the truth or lying about it based on what you posted at the time you supposedly went to check this. Which was the post Trfel took out of context? | ||
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Damdred responded. However, you answered the question for him. Damdred knows it doesn't matter if i answer the question beforehand or not. I would re-evaluate in case he hadn't agreed with me. I am not certain he is town but i have no reason to re-evaluate (based on his answer) my read on rsoultin. I don't think i need to write another case, my former one stands + this: On February 07 2018 06:44 Holyflare wrote: I'm voting rsoul because she has four pages of filter and I don't know a single one of her scum reads. Sure, she's mentioned them but there's absolutely nothing concrete there and she hasn't pushed a single thing or made anyone brutally aware that she scum reads them enough that I remember it. That's very uncharacteristic for her. Especially after such a strong showing last game that I could easily town read her day 1. | ||
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also probably scum. see how he said my case is bullshit and then does exactly what i said in my case on him. ^^ | ||
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town Conversion Mocsta Trfel - just because i cannot understand why he is voting for Koshi Holyflare mderg Koshi Damdred Rels - cop or vig this guy prplhz ritoky darthfoley rsoultin mafia | ||
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- waffle about rsoultin - rayn says he doesn't really seem to want to lynch rsoultin while scumreading him - scumreads everyone who scumread rsoultin - votes rsoultin "SEE WHAT I DID BRUH! NOW YOUR CASE IS BS!" - "i will probably change my vote though if people who i scumread vote for her" idk if this guy is just dumb or what? like i get he could think like this about rsoultin and other but scumreading me for scumreading him for something he literally does even after telling my case is bs is super fucking hilarious. | ||
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On February 07 2018 14:59 Trfel wrote: Yeah okay I'm going to vote Koshi. And I would appreciate hearing people's thoughts on Koshi. Says that mderg, prplhz, and the two afk's may contain two mafia. Votes for mderg, explains his reason for scumreading prplhz, not mderg. Townreads the biggest wagon (rsoultin), doesn't at all seem very invested in that townread or care enough about his "pretty good" scum pool to even say why he's suspicious of those people. Seems perfectly happy to let his townread get lynched over his scumreads. But he cares enough to make a huge list of all of ritoky's games and look at his reads on ritoky in each one. To me this just doesn't add up. Unfortunately this is how you get to be the best townie 2017. | ||
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On February 07 2018 17:45 rsoultin wrote: If you guys want to vote me, fine. Lynch me for closure. But I don't want any more talk about me today so that I can focus and have a chance of actually leaving good reads behind. My problem is that i told you this like 100 hours ago -- after my push was initially that lead to all these people scumreading you, and you managed to do absolutely nothing after. So can you start now instead of still jsut complaining about ppl scumreading you? Sorry if i sound offensive, i don't mean to. | ||
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On February 07 2018 18:22 Holyflare wrote: ALSO if ritoky found out that koshi calls him mafia as mafia a lot but not as town and only just discovered that then why isn't he now attributing being scum read as mafia koshi? I have a personal interest in this matter because i have a tendency of 100% misreading ritoky's alignment (unless he is SK lol ^^). That's the thing that caught me in the first place, wh ywas he so obsessed with Koshi's read but not mine? Like fucking last game i remember playing with him he made a 100% case on a 100% mafia and i decided to not doc him because i still thought he was mafia. Why Koshi? Why not me? | ||
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On February 07 2018 18:26 rsoultin wrote: He's lining up for a shift, or are you blind today, lol? It's because i don't see the point doing so if you're town and he is mafia. He has a case. People agree (at least on the lynch). But yeah, i will stop bothering you, do your thing. | ||
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On February 07 2018 18:42 rsoultin wrote: It's a little hard to describe. It's how I caught Damerion, though. It's not just changing reads on an individual, but also just changing reads based on new information in the thread. I'm not saying that ritoky is really hard-pushing anything (that was what I thought was scummy the first time through) but I am saying that his view of the game is shifting with new information. I generally find that towny. I generally agree with the statement but when your reads start at bullshit level 10 it is easy to change them to reasonable level 1. | ||
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On February 07 2018 18:44 rsoultin wrote: No, I'm filter diving. Is there something you wanted me to comment on? darthfoley | ||
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Who were you fiter diving Tina? which ppl and why? | ||
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On February 07 2018 18:47 rsoultin wrote: What reads did you think were bullshit from ritoky? read on you read on koshi read on damdred read on trfel all of those were in my opinion based on superficial things that dont make anyone anything (and the koshi read wasnt even a read which made me think he isnt even doing anything or does not want to) | ||
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#unvote ##vote darthfoley the dude scumreads me for the same reasons he townread me earlier. it is so fucking terrible it has to be mafia. idk, rsoulting can be mafia too but this is just too unbelieveable. | ||
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On February 07 2018 08:12 darthfoley wrote: I started to think about how his comparison of my last game (I was scum) and this game is not accurate. He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong. There have also been many whisperings of scum DF so it's the type of read I could see a mafia making to blend in with the crowd and see if it's worth pursuing later. Plus he wrote a fucking essay on rsoultin saying like two sentences. See my Mocsta irritation this is a 100% mafia post for 2 reasons. first on is he "believes" i am wrong. :D | ||
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second thing; for the time df has been playing on tl i have been playing in the same way. i make overexplained posts because i got fed up noone ever beliveing me whether i was right or wrong. It's just fucking bullshit to say i am scum because i (or mocsta) explain(s) stuff in detail. "Blending in" is just a bs thing, joke. I don't "blend in" as mafia which is something df definitely knows. Also this is not blending in. It is a narrative he invented to suit his agenda. | ||
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On February 07 2018 19:05 Mocsta wrote: no. not a suitable day1 vote. Damdred all the way I am also at the point of wanting to read a prplhz scum game again i dont like at all he predicted town rayn/rsoultin early on. now you are getting bad points for doing something that hasn't anything to do with alignments. | ||
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On February 07 2018 19:20 Mocsta wrote: and.. you are 1 vote of 13. get used to ppl not sucking you off.If you wanna lynch someone else than DF i am infroming you you are gonna do it without me. [/QUOTE] nah i am jsut saying my vote is not changing. | ||
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On February 07 2018 19:21 Koshi wrote: This post is good rayn. Depends on how red our lynchbait people are. But the post is good. It really isn't. I don't know why you think it is. | ||
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On February 07 2018 19:24 rsoultin wrote: :/ You're not supposed to leave, ritoky. Where is the fucking DF filter dive i am getting annoyed on you. | ||
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#unvote darthfoley ##vote rsoultin afk, work. | ||
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Neither of prplhz or mderg is scum. I have no time to write more. | ||
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On February 08 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote: if rsoultin is town, prplhz is almost certainly town too prplhz is town in any case i think. | ||
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uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia. you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use. | ||
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On February 08 2018 08:01 Koshi wrote: I think she isn't. The play was so bad if they were both mafia that I think it is more likely she was bad as town. mafia!rsoultin left mafia!mdergs wagon for a play that extremely unlikely would work. And if she pulled it off and she/mderg die in the future they both look like shit. If she stayed on the mderg wagon she is not going to get lynched till D3. And with minimal effort D4. The best play as mafia is ALWAYS to bus mderg. So what.. you're saying mderg sacced himself so a townie looks bad? I don't think it makes any sense in any world sorry. rsoultin not voting for mderg is not that bad (although i don't believe that either -- that rsoultin doesn't save herself over someone she has had a scumread just a while ago). Well it kinda is because i really do not see rsoultin not voting for mderg as town even if she actually has a super duper big townread on mderg. | ||
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See Koshi here. " If anything, she plays to win, always." So playing to win is refusing to save herself over a guy who she has mafiaread just a while ago and the only reason not to is that mderg doesn't want to save himself?????? | ||
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On February 08 2018 18:36 rsoultin wrote: I'm not as convinced you're town as most of my other townreads, and I think there's scum between you and Darth Foley. The mderg read was bad. I also don't understand your reaction to my df filter dive at all. I quote my read that was already posted and you apparently missed to you and you insta-vote me without explanation? See here is the thing - aside from all the mderg stuff. mderg read was bad... yeah ofc because he was scum, your read on mderg though, was that good? And your vote, yeah i guess it was really good or what? I think you're totally misinterpreting why i was voting for you. What i said early on in the game didn't go anywhere but somehow you magically just discard that. Then there is what Holyflare said, the post i quoted from him. I think it was a good summary of your play after i told you to go look for mafia. And yes, i don't remember your df post. If you made on it was not either convincing, or you didn't actually try to do anything with it. I went to your filter to confirm and at p4-5 yes you made a post on df but you seem more interested in talking about anything else than df. That doesn't resonate at all with what you did for example with Damerion or even df last game. So no, i don't believe yo uactually strongly thought he was mafia and if you didn't, it doesn't mean shit regarding my read on you since it is as likely you're just throwing shade as scum than it is that you are actually trying to scumhunt -- from my perspective i can't tell the difference so i find it extremely unfair you are trying to say i should have somehow seen it given that i already scumread you before. | ||
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Another thing is that noone was really pushing anything over rsoultin, other than mderg. Which is why i also find it more likely that rsoultin is mafia too. There was mderg -- rsoultin -- (prplhz). Which mafia team doesn't do anything in this situation in case only mderg is mafia? If we exclude prplhz why don't mafia vote for rsoultin or try to get her lynched instead? The only reasons in case rsoultin is town are semi-afk mafia at the time (rels slot, and i have to check on conv,ritoky,mocsta and damdred) or there is already a bus and crossed fingers (mocsta, possibly ritoky -- i don't believe anyone else here is bussing). But i don't find this scenario more likely than just that rsoultin is mafia, based on both mderg's and rsoultin's actions at the deadline. Koshi is quite obviously town. Trfel is quite obviously town. prplhz i talked about earlier, town. I believe darthfoley would have pushed rsoultin lynch more near the deadline in case he was mafia, if he is mafia with rsoultin the whole mafia teams play during whole D1 doesn't make any fucking sense at all so the only conclusion i can come to is that he is town. ritoky voted for mderg so he gets a pass for now. Holyflare could technically be scum if rsoultin is scum but i don't really believe D1 would have ended in a mafia lynch in case Holyflare is mafia, and he also voted for mderg, so town. Mocsta slipped, probably scum. Could bus. Already did so (although softly) last game. disformation nothing to say here. Damdred and Conversion. Conversion's tone sounds townie but idk if to trust that. Also Koshi i think made a decent case. Idk, tone says town, hard evidence says mafia. Damdred could be anything. I'd still roll with rsoultin and Mocsta. | ||
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On February 08 2018 19:13 rsoultin wrote: How do you get me saying you were only scumreading me because you didn't see my df read from that? I just wanted to know where the insta vote came from. Which you still haven't explained by the way. Because that's what you said?!?!?!?!?!?!? I honestly can't believe you are so close-minded you can't figure out my vote came from like 20 of the same posts i made on you and the fact i said here: On February 07 2018 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: My problem is that i told you this like 100 hours ago -- after my push was initially that lead to all these people scumreading you, and you managed to do absolutely nothing after. So can you start now instead of still jsut complaining about ppl scumreading you? Sorry if i sound offensive, i don't mean to. I wrote this AFTER i voted for you. I cannot believe you cannot connect these two things to why i was voting for you and instead you invent a "wow i can't see why he is voting for me" narrative. If you think my reasoning is bs then just say so, but don't say you dont know what my reasoning is because my filter up to that point is 90% of why i think you're scum. | ||
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On February 08 2018 19:31 rsoultin wrote: Prp was never in danger of being lynched. Votewise correct. Thread sentiment doesn't suggest so. | ||
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So what? is he scum then? | ||
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On February 08 2018 19:48 rsoultin wrote: For all these pretty words your scumreads still amount to 1)retarded double mafia suicide instead of bussing for cred and 2)some guy posted <b> code instead of using brackets. And instead of engaging me when I'm being perfectly civil to try to rule you out, since I'm more suspicious of df anyway, you flip your top and saying I'm saying all kinds of things that I'm not. Your read on mderg was objectively bad. Own it. I own my shit. Well then you probably tried to do a retarded townie suicide over mafia. Remains to be seen. | ||
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On February 08 2018 19:56 rsoultin wrote: Well, it didn't. Fine, I guess. It just seemed like it was in response to my post, where I actually agreed on your read independently of, well your reasons. So it was confusing as shit. Your scumreads are super lazy though. Not to mention probably 100% wrong. I am confused by this because yes, if darthfoley is scum like you suggest it does make him mafia. | ||
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On February 08 2018 17:49 rsoultin wrote: Also kinda liking prp. Yes very well thought out read, i can make a lot out of that. | ||
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On February 08 2018 20:09 rsoultin wrote: I actually think scumming with mocsta would be super fun. All kinds of crazy shit going down. I believe you, like this game. | ||
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On February 08 2018 20:18 Mocsta wrote: Well firstly, i take issue with the conversion town read. Lack of basis behind it and completely irrelevant to the main content of the post.. Its nitpicking but that should have been split off as a second post. Its like he wants that specifically in his filter, but to blend in. Then when talking to. hes addressing me in an odd way. Hes buttering me up, suggesting he town reads me and wants to let me down easy by saying, your case is crap! e.g. "you havent played much with tina so it makes sense you make a case like that"... for me this is totally illogical. a good point is a good point regardless of whom. So when he proceeds to continue the exact same points im getting alarm bells that this is non-genuine behaviour. see.. I think a town tunneled rayn would be more than happy i was riding the same direction.. whereas this scum!rayn is trying his best to accentuate his townish traits. Further, the item about damdred is stupid because as i pointed out prior, he answered the question for damdred, so the whole exchange is useless. The ritoky thing is acceptable to discuss, but not worthy of a scum read. Very good Mocsta. This sounds like a decent scumread, i am happy you pursued this D1 as all this information was in the thread at the time. | ||
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On February 08 2018 22:47 Conversion wrote: how did you poe im french rels as town?Damd/prpl for general lack of interest in doing much in the game and filters. Mostly gut feeling. Rayn’s thrown in there after PoE on who I think is town. Outside of that I’d have to think more critically since most of these people were on the mderg train. You’d be up there though, since Rels slot. I’ll have to observe how D2 goes if I’m alive to really flesh more reads out, but I really don’t want to and I hope I get shot here if we have a town vigilante. | ||
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- zero reason to believe she cannot be mafia with mderg - zero reason to think i am mafia by poe - zero reason to think darthfoley is less likely to be mafia than i am - zero reason to think disformation is anything so far Please think about it a little. I promise you i am not mafia. | ||
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On February 08 2018 23:39 Conversion wrote: I'm not including Rels' rather ridiculous one post as town, I am reading disinformation's take and approach on the game so far. Right. But i am scum by poe (when there is only 2 mafia left) but disfo isnt and then you dont really townread him either. | ||
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On February 08 2018 23:59 Damdred wrote: Im up for lynch tommorow yay i guess? idk what to think disf and rayn can both generally read me well. Rayn i take it you have read all of eod and night so far? Yeah. I dont thibk youre mafia tbh. | ||
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On February 08 2018 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi. Can you do something for me. See where conversion voted. Because anyone who voted for rsoultin D1 there is (regardless of what you think): - zero reason to believe she cannot be mafia with mderg - zero reason to think i am mafia by poe - zero reason to think darthfoley is less likely to be mafia than i am - zero reason to think disformation is anything so far Please think about it a little. I promise you i am not mafia. I will rephrase this. A person who voted for rsoultin D1 cannot possibly think i could be scum but either of df / rels slot isnt. You can think all of us equally are if you are an idiot and magically think rsoultin is now town for no reason (which you shouldnt), but not one over others. So basically Conversion isnt doing any thinking, just following thread sentiment. | ||
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On February 09 2018 00:35 Koshi wrote: @rayn. When rsoultin is town. DF can be mafia right? Because in you mind df is only cleared because mderg/rsoultin voted him. Can you elaborate on the df read? Just give me the different bullet points. I dont understand why a mafia would vote for df instead of rsoultin in that situation if df was mafia. | ||
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On February 09 2018 01:38 Trfel wrote: This is a very good point. +1 | ||
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On February 09 2018 00:55 Damdred wrote: Before I amswer disformation about my lunch choices for tommorow I should give some reads that i think you would ask about next. These are not in order Town: Holyflare Mocsta Koshi Ritoky Trfel These five are what I consider the pure wagon, I dont believe that a mafia was on mderg especialy with how thw votes landed. Town Reads: Disformation Conversion Rayn Idk maybe? prp scum DF Rsoultin Im just gling to write a general overview of my view of the game. First scum reads. I really believe that my first assessment of the vote is correct. The mderg wagon is pure and we had two scum up for lynch in mderg/rsoultin. Hence why they both moved near the same time for thw same reason when people were softing about jumping off. It makes the most sense why mderg just doesnt stay on rsoultin and hopes she gets another vote while she starts being suicidal. DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all. I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self. Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game. Damdred can you tell me why Mocsta is town? I will ignore your "pure wagon" comment for now because that cannot be a reason for Mocsta being town (that he voted for mafia since you think both wagons were mafia). Also why darthfoley is mafia? Do you think darthfoley's play with rsoultin was to get either mderg or rsoultin lynched and then df starts yelling how the other one is mafia too? If darthfoley is mafia, why can't i be mafia -- basically aside from our reads on each other me and darthfoley have had our top scum on the same place all D1. Which is also why i can't see ANYONE (especially people who voted for rsoultin) legitmately calling one of us near top scum and other one town. It just doesn't make any sense because our thoughts have aligned pretty much, especially after D1 end. | ||
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On February 09 2018 06:07 Holyflare wrote: Do you disagree with the damdred is mafia lynch or what? I kind of might disagree. | ||
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If conversion is mafia teh scum qt looks liek this: + Show Spoiler + Conversion: what do i do plz halp, i just wanna quit Scum #2 (who also played in the last game): ask to get vigged Conversion: no but what if they vig me? Scum #2: Nah, we had a framer so there is a cop and Skynx wouldn't put 2 inv roles into the game so there is no vig Conversion to thread: VIG ME PLZ I WANNA DIE!!! :D :D :D | ||
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On February 09 2018 06:22 Damdred wrote: @Rayn, Ok here is how it is in my mind. Mocsta had reasoning to swap off of Mderg and hop back onto Tina. He spent a lot of hia filter preasuring her, moving against her. If mderg and mocsta were zcum together it would be easy at that point in ths thread to move and strengthen the rsoultin lynch if she is towm and he is scum. It makes no sense for him to lynch mderg espe ialy given how he played last game. If both are mafia, it doesnt clear him at all though. And ill readily admit that, eapecially if rsoultin is a better role in that regard. (i mean his vote) Besides that I think mocsta reevaluating on me when it was much easier to go with thread sentiment during the night was townie and different from theblast scum game he played. In the same vein when night started he was super antagonksti. towards me and set i was scum, but softened and tried to find things. I think his vote looks good to me, the way he approa hes the game is different. tonally he is also didderent as he seems much more confrontational in review. I think i can be biased but i honestly believe Mocsta -- based on what he wrote on rsoultin earlier in the game should have been voting for her instead of mderg. I agree i can be wrong, but that's the feeling i got fro mhis posts. Like the last game i followed D1 loosely and i was 100% certain Mocsta had voted for DF day i and during the start of D2 i cleared him in my mind in obs qt just to look at the votecount and i was like "wtf, why wasn't this guys vote on df?". I kind of see the same thing here. Another thing is that he made a slip or a "slip" that he has done before. He later on tried to pain it as a joke. What is the point of joking like that? I don't think he is telling the truth about him joking, i think he genuinely slipped like he has done before and made up a reason for it. As for df I dont know exactly what the plan was. tina nor mderg really never seemed to have a lot of thread pull necessarily and it seemed no ome really got up to a momentum to go against them in the vote department. I thought i did explaim about df, he fought woth hf and i thought the fight disnt feel like t v t. hf came out looking better. df has been misconstruing different things to make people look bad, me and my vote for reasons that arent teue, hf in the fight. One of the things ive tried to read df as, as s um is hes a bit more hostile as scum than town I think. So it sort of fits here to. And I just think you are town. You are pushing on little things that you think are inconsistant like the rs sk thing. and this conversation we are having now instead of teying to bury me. I mean I could just be reading the game like im an idiot i guess? But I kinda think im just right. I think df cannot be mafia if rsoultin is. I think there is your problem rn. If df and rsoultin are the final 2 mafia then mafia D1 play was "let's all call each other scum not not even really try to do anything" and that is just fucking reatrded. I am not quite sure why you think this is possible. I understand your reasoning, i might even agree with it but never with rsoultin being scum with him. Like the reason i read df scum D1 was because he used very weird wording. He thought i am mafia because, as he said "He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong". Now if you are town, what is this.... Would you BELIEVE i made wrong points? No, you know if i did or not. Even worse, if you think i am mafia FOR IT, i am obviously bullshitting, so there is nothing to BELIEVE, i am bullshitting, you point out where, and that's it. Case closed. But instead he "believe i might have made wrong points". What is this even? | ||
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On February 09 2018 06:51 Damdred wrote: I have posted it but ill reaay it anyway so you dont have to dig. I liked how disformation came into the thread ready to work and give reads. He wasnt demotivated which he can be as scum and has stayed pretty muh on the same level. He also had a good tone (imo), played around with me qhen I was joking. (new stuff) I don't understand how he picks the people to read. Can you? | ||
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On February 09 2018 07:00 Damdred wrote: That i dont know exactly just seems whoever he wants, im sort of still waiting on him not flopping around on me. First posts in his filter are fine, jsut by following the game i understand those. The problem for me is he says this: if i remember correctly: the rs wagon was for a long time the only serious one around, so i want to look at ppl who hoped onto that easily/meekily so that they look like they were doing/pushing someone. After this he starts stuff about Conversion. It's still fine, because it is perfectly logical he goes to Conversion (as he is one dude who voted for rsoultin over mderg). But then, after a couple of posts he says this: i was also reading trfels filter and am not sure why your argument made him switch to rsoultin. which made me read your filter. So reading Trfels filter made him read Conversions filter? Not the votecount or what he said before. And then after a couple of posts: yeah that actually makes a lot of sense. but I have it on good authority that rels slot is shockingly town... so wtf was scum doing? lemme look at the votes a sec He didn't even look at the votes...... I am not sure how the underlined part makes sense with what he actually did. | ||
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On February 09 2018 07:04 ritoky wrote: i have read the truffle filter and determined that i don't see a reason why any1 would blue hunt him. medic dodge on an obvious townie is your answer. | ||
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On February 09 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote: Damdred something something here This is a thread summary of arguments everyone else has put up. Who else is reading rsoultin and darthfoley mafia other than damdred? | ||
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DF is a little poe, the votes on him could be distancing. His fight with HF seemed to be just cluttering up the thread with who scum read tina first. Just seemed weird then and weird now. He did mind meld with me somewhat anout the lynch which is whybI am hesitant about this at all. who thinks df is scum other than his scumread rsoultin? I talked about disformation earlier how he came into the game instantly spitting reads. A bit wifom but as scum I dont think he would as motivated there. I liked his postings and he seems like his townie self. this one is okay, i disagree with it though Rayn is doing his normal thing to me, looking for inconsistoncies while pushing those as scum. Has good follow through. I also agree with his thoughts who thinks i am town other than Damdred? Conversion has said a lot of smart things tbh. I like his posts mostly, his fucking off mad and coming back reads like his town game to me also. I just like how he approached the game. Who thinks Conversion is town? Why is this a thread summary? | ||
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On February 09 2018 07:33 Mocsta wrote: Damdred something something here This is a thread summary of arguments everyone else has put up. You know Mocsta, this post pisses me off quite a bit. It really does. Because your case on rsoultin at the start of D1 was taken off exactly from what i said. I understand you possibly don't realize it but you summarised nothing but my points on her in more words and without knowing the meta. I don't like you calling someone else's post thread summary when half of your D1 was nothing but a fucking thread summary from me and then you voted for mderg for no apparent reason other than "i like Koshi". So don't do that, regardless of your affiliation, which is btw scum. | ||
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On February 09 2018 07:35 disformation wrote: @rayn: i think i got distracted by koshi's great ass, or something. but yeah got nothing of value to post rn so i think ill go to bed for rels now I would loved if you told me what you were actually thinking but okay, maybe you're mafia then when you can't do that -- as i am not allowed to call rsoultin mafia. | ||
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On February 09 2018 07:47 Conversion wrote: It seems I cannot vote for myself. That is stupid. You should all lynch me. you should stop whining and play the game. please. | ||
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On February 09 2018 07:58 disformation wrote: *shrugs* think i picked trfel as my first person to look at cause I didnt remember anything from skimming at work. saw some stuff about conversion convincing him to switch his read on rs. looked at conversion. saw conversions part with @mderg. posted about that. other than that i was just throwing around ideas. in my mind i think i did look at vote stuff a bit, but didnt end up getting anywhere with that, which is why i stopped. yeah stuff like: looks fairly straightforward to me Wel lyou didn't answer anything since the first quote in my post clearly says you want to look at people who were on rsoultin. Then you did something else and now you tell how you ended up from there to somewhere else. Aka you never say why you, after saying you wanna look at the other wagon, didn't actually do so but did something else instead. | ||
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On February 09 2018 07:59 darthfoley wrote: Also I don't underestimate rayn's QT post to be accurate. It would actually be quite the clever play What do you mean by this? | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:06 darthfoley wrote: Your observation on the impossible conversion emo vig play. I think it's a sick point but maybe too high level. I still don't understand why he got so ragey after he was accused by like...two players. rofl. are you seriously using this as anything? :D | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:07 Mocsta wrote: If town!rsoultin legitimately thought mderg was town at the time, I can make sense of those actions. The main issue I had was the rsoultin progression, because prior she was considering mderg scum. This is why I asked her about it; but I think its completely legit that in the heat of the DF/HF bragging argument, she tilted leading to the actions that took place. this smells like bullshit. | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:04 Mocsta wrote: I laid bomb on <b>Rayn</b> very good you bombed the pgo so that's 1-1. the joke is old dude... | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:04 disformation wrote: hmm... i think i ended up looking at why trfel switched off rs instead. probably cause i wanted to. yeah you probably wanted to do that instead what you said you wanted to do. seems good. | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:04 darthfoley wrote: Also for the 40th time that "I believe" thing has been misunderstood and is in no way a slip. So what did you mean by it? | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:12 Mocsta wrote: You are 1 vote of 11. you know the rest of the story. Sure i do. But i don't care. I just tell who i think is mafia and then i am right or wrong. That's probably something you didn't know about me because that has changed since you have last played with me. Unfortunately i am not alloed to call my other scumread scum so you just have to deal with me calling you scum. | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:18 darthfoley wrote: I know I am Town I believe the points you made were wrong = in my opinion, your arguments are not valid Sometimes you can understand why someone accusing you. I thought your accusations were just false. They were subjective reasons that I disagreed with But if you are town and you think i am mafia then you KNOW i am wrong. If you BELIEVE i am wrong i am not sure you can tell )from that) if i am mafia or not. If you had not called me mafia for it i would have been totally okay with it but as you did you MUST KNOW my points are wrong, not just believe. | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:23 Mocsta wrote: Rayn, at least have the courtesy to show full context instead of trimming my post "Why.. EoD 1 in the last game, town Damdred (wagon leader) refused to vote his town reads, and basically threw his vote away IIRC (or perhaps put it on DF, who wasnt a town read regardless)." There is no context in what you posted in addition to that because rsoultin is not Damdred. | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:25 Mocsta wrote: whats there to say? its a regurgitation of other peoples comments with no insight. i disagree and i asked you why you think so. so can you just answer, orr not? | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:31 Damdred wrote: but i dont feel like i copied anyones reads you certainly didn't, and especially where you ended up on with them is not a copy (which would be logical if what Mocsta says is true -- like you would call some scrub townies scum instead of the most unlikely scenario in almost anyone's mind). | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:31 Mocsta wrote: Essentially: the "pure" wagon all town argument is not valid in Damdred world, is because he asserts both mderg & rsoultin are scum. If anything he should be more concerned about why they swapped between the 2; as mderg was not a lynch threat. This is in particular evident given I was a Damdred scum read all game; and jumped ship ~10hrs before deadline and also AFK. Instead, I am pure town and a big hole in story presents itself. You jsut copied Holyflare's read. Does that make you mafia? | ||
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He chose a route i wouldn't expect him to choose as mafia early on in the game (calling rsoultin and ritoky mafia). He chose a route i wouldn't expect him to choose at the start of N1. He is basically not taking any of the outs being offered i think he could easily see 100 miles away as scum. He chose to vote rsoultin over mderg (only a minor point but anyways). He got all emo over something that wasn't really justified but it looks like he genuinely doesn't understand what people were trying to say and he genuinely thinks he has been ignored or misunderstood. In all i think Damdred's play makes absolutely no sense as mafia. I think Mocsta is completely misconstruing what Damdred's actions and when trying to elaborate more onto that he cannot give a reasonable answer. He just picked a post that looks bad and made it look like it's a mafia post for some invented reason. I don't really think Conversion is mafia. He just feels like a person who has absolutely no idea what he should do. Just because i have more scumreads and he doesn't fit anywhere. purplehaze is the least town of my townreads, just because after a bit townie D1 he has gone back to only commenting on "good post", "funny post", "this" and nothing more. I don't think df is mafia for his eod1. I think this summarized it quite well: It was extremely reminiscent of what he did against hf. He took a small thing and turned it into a larger thing and diverted the thread from discussinf the lynch into who cased tina first. It was pointless did not help town. like lets assume that tina is town, df auccessfully pushed hf (maybe) to not vote town tina instead hf goes onto his scum partnwr mderg when the other people on mdeeg are afk. Like, this looks like a mafia thing to do for sure but if you account the situation it doesn't make any sense as mafia to do that. If df is mafia then the plan was not to bus (because he could have just voted for mderg if the plan was to bus), instead he chose not to bus but then do stuff that has a low chance of helping lynch town instead of mafia. Makes no sense. Obviously this doesn't matter if rsoultin is mafia but i have already said why that one doesn't work either on df being scum. df also has the "i am choosing a route that is very unlikely to work" thing after D1 in case he is mafia. I made a post on disformation here, it doesn't make sense, he couldn't give anywhere reasonable answer. Obviously noone in teh fucking game cares. Why do i even try? It is especially funny for Koshi who thinks i should be doing something and when i do something obviously that gets ignored. But it doesn't matter Koshi, i will just do what i do, then you start calling me obvious scum at some point, then i call you bad, then you lynch me, then i call you bad again. I think you're lynching town rn, and i know how Damdred feels. ftr the one i am not calling mafia today has a veeeery weird reaction to Damdred's emo burst. I think it's a bad reaction from someone who is supposed to know Damdred better. | ||
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On February 09 2018 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah you probably wanted to do that instead what you said you wanted to do. seems good. | ||
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On February 09 2018 20:03 Mocsta wrote: seriously, im more than happy to lynch rayn first will benefit thread regardless. i dont care how tunneled you are.. even DF dropped his scum read on me after the mderg wagon. rayn on the other hand.. this play makes sense to me as scum for 2 reasons (1) He wants to shit up town atmosphere and thinks I will bite back (2) Senses there are some ppl that would consider my lynch (e.g. ritoky and conversion) its quite a safe play (very similar to what i decided to do with Holyflare on day2 of previous game). I honestly won't read any of your posts because after your rsoultin case every single thing you have scumread someone for is that you create your own narrative and make it fit to what someone posted. It's bad, and if you are not in fact mafia then you should not do it. | ||
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On February 10 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote: Hahahahahahahahaha my manager told me to leave at 4 and here I am 7.30 just leaving. Dont worry bby i still got until 0030 am left and 0630 am back. | ||
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On February 10 2018 00:10 disformation wrote: nah is fine. is super interesting game. also noted that on pages like 30-35 there was some talk about df. think rayn had him as his #2 scumread. could be him trying to steer the lynch but running out of time? not sure. could see him just bus, if he is running out of time to play. This is one. Again obviously noone notices. | ||
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What i tried to heavily imply during night 1 is to not cop check rsoultin. I am not sure if there is a normal cop who checked rsoultin but a green on her should always be claimed (obviously red too -- but green yes, only on her). The reason is that rsoultin, if not confirmed green, is always the bast lynch D2. It doesn't even fucking matter if she flips town. Always lynch the counter-wagon who mafia refused to vote on to save themselves, always. Option 1: rsoultin flips town We can, in this situation always assume that everyone on mderg wagon are town. Mocsta could maybe bus but who cares, that's for later, never care about that until lylo. That leaves the following people, who either voted for rsoultin or off-wagon: Damdred darthfoley disformation Conversion raynpelikoneet prplhz You have a pool of 6 people who can be mafia. - If you have 2 blues in those, game over. Town wins. - If you have 1 blue in those, game over, town wins (2 lynches until lylo and mislynch every time -> 2 mafia 1 town in that pool in lylo) almost always, only retarded town loses here. - If you have zero blues there you have to actually make reads..... Let's see what we have here very quickly: Damdred - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2 darthfoley - pushes the anti-mafia idea all N1 and D2 disformation - hasn't said anything, i don't even know if he has scumreads Conversion - Koshi sheeple and master of inconsistancies raynpelikoneet - you can think whatever you want prplhz - he could have technically even saved mderg with him, so is extremely unlike to be mafia The thing is, if you can even rule out ONE person there, who isn't mafia, you win the game. I can rule out fucking 3, easily. The dudes who push the anti-mafia idea. Ironically Koshi's lynch list at the moment is the three people who push the correct town play aka me/df/damdred. So yeah, go listen to Koshi if you want to. Option 2: rsoultin flips mafia Game opens up a lot, but who cares, we lynched mafia. The thing is Holyflare, rn three people say very very stupid stuff. rsoultin, Mocsta and disformation. disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? Then there is his conversion read and how he ended up reading conversion and how he ended up explaining himself after. It smells super fucking bs. I genuinely believe Mocsta has slipped. Deal with it. I could possibly back off from that but everything that comes out of his keyboard so far is either copy of someone else or taking some post and inventing a (horrible) scum reasoning for it. Then there is the post where his #1 scumread (me) tells him that, and he somehow gets offended??? OF course i am trying to shit on his reads if i am mafia. I get Damdred getting emotionally "too invested" in the game and taking offense on something he shouldn't, but Mocsta, who himself continuosly tells other people they are bad? No fucking way. I don't even care to write about rsoultin because i don't see a single townie thing she has done this game. Koshi sees all the townie things ofc but i don't, so there is that. I only made my promise to Koshi because i was very annoyed at him, and i still am. If you happen to realize i have all day been sarcastic about it. I don't care what Koshi says, i don't care what he does, he can try to solve the game by himself if he wants to. Maybe he even can. But that will happen without me as he doesn't do anything but shit on everything someone he doesn't like in this game for whatever reason says. So yeah, there is that. #unvote ##vote rsoultin I don't care what alignment she is, it is just the correct play based on D1 end. Do whatever you want to, my vote stays. | ||
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On February 10 2018 08:32 Holyflare wrote: I think rayn is absolutely town and you're all shit for thinking otherwise. Me too, i also think rsoultin jsut started doign the thing she always does as mafia. I won't bite because i don't have time for it. | ||
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On February 10 2018 08:36 rsoultin wrote: Doesn't matter. Lynch Joni after I flip town. It's on you if you don't and you can't blame me at that point. Why don't you just counter the case since obviously that's bad because i am mafia? | ||
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On February 10 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote: Like he literally had me as top scumread then tried to lunch df for wording but couldn't get the traction. Here he's all about how I can't be town after day one but was pushing mocsta for something equally bs. He's not looking to lynch his top scumread. He's looking for who he can get lynched. I'm super hard to lynch. If I need to get lynched for you to see it I'll do so happily. Yes i realized i couldn't get traction after full 25 minutes so i had to get back to my original town lynch who btw had 5 votes over some random people having 1. I really needed that traction on df in the first place at the time, shame i couldn't get it. I call rsoultin scum, i am scum. I don't call rsoultin scum, i am scum. I should probably learn this talent that is useful in a mafia game. Should i call Koshi? I am looking for the easiest lynches yeah youre right. Like you who is super hard to lynch and Mocsta who after all voted for mafia adn thread sentiment says he is town. Those two townies are definitely my top picks to lynch as mafia, like why would i even think i could possibly lynch someone else? Yes you do. | ||
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On February 10 2018 09:05 ritoky wrote: does new damdred quit/martyr as mafia or ever? cuz old damdred was extra tryhard when he had teammates. idk. I don't think he would have martyred as mafia for a post (case) he could apparently reasonably explain (answer). | ||
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On February 10 2018 09:09 Holyflare wrote: How do you know martyring isn't try harding? Last game people were saying he doesn't give up like that as mafia so maybe as mafia in the next game he could use it to his advantage? Who knows really, I just don't think he really plays like he is as town. I am not sure if you read the obs QT and his posts there, but that and two games in a row getting lynched for something that he feels like is stupid and noone listening to him i can easily see him doing that as town -- not really as mafia. | ||
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On February 10 2018 09:15 Holyflare wrote: But how does damdred go from "Mderg isn't mafia now because of that vote that wouldn't save him" to voting rsoultin when she was doing the same god damn thing? idk what you mean, can you elaborate more? | ||
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On February 10 2018 09:26 Holyflare wrote: Damdred has mocsta/prplhz/mderg in a scum list. Just before the lynch he's praising rsoultin about looking more towny. Then he exclaims BOTH rsoultin and mderg are doing a suicide play. For some reason he attributes this to a town mderg but neglects to say it makes rsoultin town. Why? It's incredibly unexplained. If both of these people are doing the same thing and rsoultin is already a town read and mderg is a scum read why pick to save mderg over rsoul? There's no discernable reason... Other than mderg has flipped mafia. Ah yes, i see. I will check that in context tomorrow. I have to be at work in less than 4 hrs so i think i need to sleep real quick. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:09 darthfoley wrote: Interesting that rsoultin isn't a PR mafia role though. Mildly surprising that's wh yshe didn't vote for mderg. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:08 Holyflare wrote: Possible no. Kosh would have tried to lynch me as mafia D2. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:14 Holyflare wrote: As soon as you went for rsoultin and people sheeped then he voted df and afkd though. Ah okay, i will read better tomorrow, since i slept after work until now. I havent read anything except for the flip after my last psot. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:21 Holyflare wrote: Did you actually green check damdred though? I need to know. Medic can just heal you for extra check. No, i would have claimed if i did. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:21 Conversion wrote: I find it very interesting rsoultin didn’t try harder to direct and convince some of us sheeples into voting off of her. Although I guess rayn’s slam dunk post on how to approach the game was very hard to argue against I am actually quite surprised so many people were apparently on Damdred in the end since there was literally no way to argue against the post i made. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:24 darthfoley wrote: Cop claims tomorrow with two alive checks and we almost auto win? yes | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:29 Holyflare wrote: Why? because you didn't vote for rsoultin. Actually Mocsta probably isn't mafia. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:29 Holyflare wrote: I think both of them are mafia so who cares? So okay, if damdred is mafia this is the saddest mafia performance i have ever seen in my life aside from me/Artanis/i don't remember who when we decided to jsut hard defend each other all game for no apparent reason like 6 years ago and got fucking destroyed. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:31 Holyflare wrote: I'm taking you back to town. Good observation. ahem.... so why is mderg wagon completely on the table in your opinion again? I mean like every single person could have lynched rsoultin over mderg there. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:34 disformation wrote: so without a lot of doublechecking/filtering i'd say its probably either damdy or conv. why would yo uthink conversion is scum? | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:37 Holyflare wrote: Rayn just read my case on damdred. There is no way he is not mafia now that I reread it. He has simultaneously said that the mocsta wagon is pure while scum reading rsoultin. He then tried to patch over the story multiple times. He basically slipped that rsoul was mafia. Maybe you are right but i don't think we should lynch Damdred tomorrow in any case. I know i pre-emptively agreed with your point earlier yesterday but the fact is Damdred voted for mafia. idk, do you think Damdred went all bus all game strategy? Which means all mafia went all bus strategy all game? Why? | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:43 disformation wrote: hmmm though after looking at convs filter again... he was super focused on rsoultin for the like first 2 pages of his filter... not sure if he is one to bus a teampartner hard like this at the start of the day. Anyone in the rsoultin wagon saves rsoultin by voting for Damdred with her. EVERYONE in the rsoultin wagon is people who did NOT vote for mderg D1. And Mocsta. Everyone on Damdred was "confirmed town" and then Koshi's confirmed town disformation. There is no reason not to change the vote to Damdred because you "just followed confirmed town". I think rsoultin just wants us to lynch Damdred. | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:51 disformation wrote: not sure I completely understand, but in the end you are saying, that rs tried to set damdred up by voting not damdred on D2? I am saying the most logical answer to me is that if any of the people (aside from Mocsta) was mafia, they could have killed Damdred instead of rsoultin just by "well i was wrong on D1 so i will now sheep ritoky/Holyflare who lynched mafia D1" - reasoning. Instead they decided to follow thread sentiment #2 scumread me. So they are not mafia. | ||
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On February 09 2018 06:09 prplhz wrote: No, but I think it's weird that everybody seemed to forget about Conversion or something. I think both are good lynches. Do you still think Conversion is good lynch? If not, who is? | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:44 Holyflare wrote: Damdred refrained from reading rsoultin anything for a long time iirc. It was only when he returned and was up for lynch that he said she "improved a lot" since he got back. Then magically she's a scum read? His progression doesn't make sense imo. It's just opportune scum reads. He has absolutely 0 clout after I scum read him today so he was just defending. Then you came in and cased his buddy and he just moved to that. HF, i also cannot find a single good reason why Damdred votes for rsoutlin over mderg there on D1 as scum. Can you see the spot he put himself in after that? Think about the alternative..... I will promise you though that i will read your stuff on Damdred and his posts related to them in case i live. | ||
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disformation made a post where he suggested that i am mafia and i was either trying to bus df (over rsoultin lynch), or trying to find an alternative lynch. Vote situation at the time 5 on rsoultin, some random 1's on some random other people. You srsly think that conclusion makes any fucking sense in any world at all? I am going to remind everyone of this post. Because what disformation says there is that i wanted to find an alternative lynch to rsoultin, which doesn't make any sense, unless guess what? | ||
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On February 11 2018 05:01 Calix wrote: Day Two Final Vote Count rsoultin (5): raynpelikoneet, Mocsta, Conversion, darthfoley, Damdred Damdred (3): Holyflare, raynpelikoneet (0): Conversion (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): Koshi, rsoultin Mocsta (0): Not Voting (0): rsoultin is the lynch! Damdred is the only one in rsoultin wagon who by changing their vote doesn't save rsoultin. Conversion is probably never mafia anyways since he was busy on end half of D2, told Koshi before he would sheep him but instead decided to sheep his scumread on mafia, lol. This guy is never mafia. I just don't believe Koshi is mafia. prplhz is blue. disformation is conftown. ritoky seems town. So either Damdred or Holyflare. Well technically darthfoley too could be scum but i seriously think he would have conceded especially after prplhz claimed doc. My and prplhz's alignments are gonna be confirmed anyways so if one of us is alive at lylo plz feel free to lynch. I am gonna write about Holyflare in a couple of hours, i am not sure if need to write about Damdred since much of it has been said already, but i can do that too later on. Gotta do something in the meantime so i'll be back in like 1,5-2 hrs. | ||
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I went back to read the D1 from ppl's filters, and actually properly read it. I am going to assume the following things from D1: On February 08 2018 05:03 Skynx wrote: Day One Final Vote Count mderg (5):: rsoultin (4): Koshi (1): Trfel (1): prplhz darthfoley (2): prplhz (0):: Conversion (0): Holyflare (0): ritoky (0): Not Voting (1): Rels mderg is the lynch. That's the final votecount from D1. What we know from there is this: Mafia bussed real hard. The only people who are not confirmed town are on not confirmed mafia are our flipped mafia. So regardless of who is mafia they have bussed super hard (since disformation is town the final mafia is in the active players). Now what i do believe is that the the reason for mderg to refuse to vote rsoultin is that the mafia thinks they win more often with rsoultin alive. I also think the mafia thinks the people on rsoultin are easier to lynch in total than the people on mderg. Anyone, just anyone could have claimed "credit" by switching from rsoultin to mderg (like Holyflare did), yet the people on rsoultin refused to do so. Honestly what i just said is just better play as scum and more likely to come from mafia than anything anyone on rsoultin did. I mean, at this point mafia is 100% getting lynched. There is absolutely no reason to stay on rsoultin because mderg flipping mafia doesn't make rsoultin town (darthfoley and Damdred realized this). The better play is just to "hammer mafia" and then say "maybe i was wrong on rsoultin" and try to paint her as town for the following phases. First of all, on Holyflare, is that. The vote switch is actually scummy lol (more on this below). Secondly is this; If you go to rsoultin's filter and know something about her scum play you will notice this. She likes to put all other things aside when she's defending herself. If you read her filter almost everything is her defending herself until i tell her to prove she is town by scumhunting. What is weird about Holyflare regarding this is that rsoultin defends against everyone else's cases than Holyflares!!! Literally, big rants with Mocsta, big rants with me, stuff with Conversion, stuff with darthfoley, no stuff... literally zero stuff with Holyflare. This is what she says about Holyflare: On February 06 2018 18:50 rsoultin wrote: You're making it impossible for me to get a read off you, btw On February 07 2018 22:49 rsoultin wrote: Holyflare is whatever the fuck. I can never tell even when I care. Then there is some soft comments about what other people did regarding Holyflare's read on her, but never confronting him about anything, ever. Here is the last game filter for Tina, you don't even need to go further that first page to see the above and how she treats Holyflare this game is completely bullshit. I honestly didn't even see those posts earlier, i just didn't care about Holyflare because he was gunning for rsoultin so i didn't care. Now i must say, this is not a good reason to call Holyflare scum. I mean what rsoultin did is not a reason why Holyflare is scum, but the reason is that Holyflare should have noticed this and called rsoultin mafia for it, and do it fucking hard. Because when someone acts super scummy towards you then they are mafia. If Holyflare is town in this game he should have realized that for whatever reason rsoultin is scared to call him any alignment ever in this game and gunned her down for it, 100%. Then there is Holyflare's vote swtich from rsoultin to mderg. Here are the facts: - Holyflare has a super big scumread on rsoultin - Holyflare has never really talked anything about mderg - The vote switch happens when it is 100% certain that mafia is getting lynched no matter what Here is what Holyflare has said about mderg: I think it's more that I don't remember anything mderg has posted and that resonated with how I felt about him last game. mderg's only scumread at this point is rsoultin who is Holyflare's #1 scumread. Ant this is funny because:On February 08 2018 04:33 Holyflare wrote: Mate you having a fucking laugh? Your biggest scum read is started by a wagon on reasoning I created. This is so bad. I also made a giant collection of where are rsoul conversion reads case?? So df should notice that HF has said stuff (and tbh i was the one that created rsoultin lynch, not holyflare), but he doesn't have to recognize mderg's #1 scumread is the same that his (which btw happened before HF even scumread rsoultin). Then this happens: On February 08 2018 04:40 Holyflare wrote: I'll vote to save the talking people to kill the non talking people. Honestly haven't been able to catch up and read into mderg or prplhz though. Just finishing work On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote: I don't care if mderg is town and getting lynched though. On February 08 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote: I haven't read him. Here's the reason Holyflare decided to vote for mderg over rsoultin: On February 08 2018 04:53 Holyflare wrote: I don't need to consolidate on anything though. If I have to I'll save rsoul because she types words though. His biggest fucking scumread he is so proud of he needs to shout other people HE is the one who created the wagon and NEVER anyone else and everyone is sheeping him, can be excused on D1 over a dude he doesn't have any clue what he even wrote???????????? This is literally bullshit, lite-fucking-rally. And for the record the words rsoultin typed after Holyflare made the "you have 4 pages of filter and nothing in there" continued to be absolutely nothing so the vote switch in itself makes no fucking sense at all. Come day 2 and i made my case on rsoultin. Holyflare instantly agrees. Then this happens: On February 10 2018 08:34 Holyflare wrote: I also think rsoultin is a good vote too. No idea where she's at on any read whatsoever. My case about her conversion read day 1 still stands and her mderg read progression is even worse. But he didn't manage to vote rsoultin over a dude he doesn't even remember what they wrote. On February 10 2018 09:28 Holyflare wrote: I want rsoultin to make a case for me to vote rayn. And also explain damdred. rsoultin never does this. On February 11 2018 01:29 Holyflare wrote: I don't think rsoultin is mafia purely based on mderg's multiple interactions with her. Seems like 50% of his filter is arguing with her. Mmmm now it's the other way around than it was in the first quote? Like..... I understand the reasons Holyflare was voting for Damdred for. But i don't understand how he fucking ends up on Damdred over rsoultin here. Once again it doesn't make any fucking sense since with logic he should end up on rsoultin. Another thing to note here is that he sees many many "scummy stuff" other people do but never anything on rsoultin, never, it is always just a generic read of "i think she is scum but i vote for this other guy". And i fell like Holyflare as town would have always voted for rsoultin D1, and D2, over what he did. Two more points, a bit minor though but still a point. from D3 this: - Holyflare never even registers the point i made in my rsoultin case D2. The point is that as mafia, Damdred and darthfoley were pushing an anti-mafia idea from the beginning of N1. Ne never touches this with even a long stick, he never actually reconsiders he can be wrong here (when he most likely is). - Second point, he says this after my claim: On February 12 2018 07:10 Holyflare wrote: Btw if darthfoley is town I'm lynching rayn tomorrow. When HF makes stupid jokes like this he is mafia. He did in the last game i played when he was mafia. I can look it up if you want to, but it always makes me feel something is wrong about this guy when he does it and while it's not really a reason to call him mafia it probably should be because it has always been correct. This is just a retarded thing to even suggest and i am quite sure he can make the obvious conclusion that "if rayn is alive at lylo then just lynch him". Notice that only mafia knows i am lying here about the check on prplhz / df, and i realize it must be fucking annoying when your possible mislynches towntell and you can do nothing about it. I think this is the result. #vote Holyflare | ||
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On February 12 2018 19:35 disformation wrote: rayn can you look at the rs on rit / rit on rs stuff? because i totally dont like rit calling for cop checks on rs real hard like. The cop check is completely NAI, because it was the correct play. Even if there was a normal cop climing green on rsoultin would have been correct play. So ritoky is completely right in that. ritoky's filter reads "idgaf" so i think he is town. I don't understand the "he voted for his blue read" because he has never voted for prplhz. | ||
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On February 12 2018 19:59 Holyflare wrote: Good.Literally the post after your quote. Don't cherry pick my filter to fit your narrative. Even more resons you should have been vot8ing for her over Damdred then. | ||
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On February 12 2018 20:17 ritoky wrote: there's no way to manufacture this into auto? if youre town and conversion is town then yes this is auto. | ||
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I must say though, that if we go into the "this doesn't make any sense for me as mafia" then Conversion and darthfoley win the town prize. | ||
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You say you sheeped your townreads. Okay, it can be true. I don't have time to check if there is any indication of that in your filter or how it compares to what i believe your strength in rsoultin read is tonight. I will do that in the morning when i get off work though. You also would have had the reason to make the nightkill on Trfel. Koshi is a obvious medic dodge and there are basically no other good night kills for you if you are mafia. Trfel is just the best night kill because it is the only kill where people for sure won't say "why doesn't HF die"? Maybe you did it, maybe you didn't, it still makes sense for you as scum. I will continue tomorrow. If you want to convince people on Damdred feel free to, you don't need to convince me since i already know the points you have made and yes, if Damdred continues to play the very least then yes, he is a good lynch. | ||
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I mean unless you wanna get lynched for dumb stuff in future. | ||
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On February 13 2018 17:48 Koshi wrote: Conversion also looks good. Quoted post for sure. The thing that mostly makes Conversion town is that he was like super depressed during N1 because he was "playing badly" when his scumreads D1 were rsoultin and mderg. It would be a super twisted fake emotion as mafia to do that when you know you are 100% correct in your reads, and i am like 99,9% sure the emotion is genuine and not faked as mafia. | ||
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On February 13 2018 18:33 disformation wrote: @hf: yeah that was the post I was referring to when i said "HF himself pointed out that his vote is super scummy if both RS and mderg are scum". just hard to judge what you would do/are capable of as scum. since you know, you can be pretty good at that. HF is surely capable of doing stuff as mafia, basically anything anyone else would do and more. I am not quite sure he tries to argue his vote D1 cannot been seen as scummy because yes, he said that himself on N1. Eh.. i mean why he tries to argue it this way, i feel like he is trying to over-simplify my argument to something that it is not. | ||
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rayn scum rsoultin scum trfel town df scum rayn town p2: conv town? koshi idiot p3: notes noone reading rsoultin town other than Koshi "I don't think ritoky has made any posts he couldn't make as mafia in regards to reads" p4: "I might vote for mderg" p5: mderg flips Yeah i don't quite believe Holyflare sheeped his "townreads Koshi and ritoky on mderg". Because there is absolutely nothing that suggests that he even townreads either of them, more like what he said about ritoky looks like a scumread to me. | ||
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those were all posts where HF talks about Koshi's and ritoky's alignments even remotedly (i started doing his reads on other people but then most of his filter was about rsoultin anyways so i stopped doing that after he complained to Koshi on his filter p2). | ||
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On February 07 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote: It's fine. You're sheeping me on rsoul so it's all good. We have to stick through this lynch though cos there's gonna be a lot of yelling and empty threats. Now the green part here is something that rsoultin very often does as mafia when people call her scum. She starts to shit up the thread with nonsense that has nothing to do with actually people being mafia or not, she just argues about completely useless points to make the arguments so annoying to read noone cares anymore. Thing to note here is that Holyflare, already at this point notices this is how rsoultin acts in certain situations. Here is a string of posts from D2 after i made a case on rsoultin: On February 10 2018 08:33 rsoultin wrote: I was expecting a reaction like this far sooner. Let's rumble! @thread lynch me first of you have to, then lynch rayn for not soon this in the first place because he's scum, know I'm town and doesn't actually care who is scum this game. I'll take tomorrow finding the third for y'all On February 10 2018 08:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Me too, i also think rsoultin jsut started doign the thing she always does as mafia. I won't bite because i don't have time for it. On February 10 2018 08:37 rsoultin wrote: -pokes- I'm going to bed actually. Please note folks that he only started this after I called him out for it. On February 10 2018 08:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Ah so you played the "you can never vote for me unless you are scum" -card. Clever. On February 10 2018 08:50 rsoultin wrote: Like he literally had me as top scumread then tried to lunch df for wording but couldn't get the traction. Here he's all about how I can't be town after day one but was pushing mocsta for something equally bs. He's not looking to lynch his top scumread. He's looking for who he can get lynched. I'm super hard to lynch. If I need to get lynched for you to see it I'll do so happily. On February 10 2018 08:52 rsoultin wrote: Lol no I'm calling you out on not drinking your own coolaid. On February 10 2018 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes i realized i couldn't get traction after full 25 minutes so i had to get back to my original town lynch who btw had 5 votes over some random people having 1. I really needed that traction on df in the first place at the time, shame i couldn't get it. I call rsoultin scum, i am scum. I don't call rsoultin scum, i am scum. I should probably learn this talent that is useful in a mafia game. Should i call Koshi? I am looking for the easiest lynches yeah youre right. Like you who is super hard to lynch and Mocsta who after all voted for mafia adn thread sentiment says he is town. Those two townies are definitely my top picks to lynch as mafia, like why would i even think i could possibly lynch someone else? Yes you do. I find it extremely unlike town!Holyflare doesn't vote for rsoultin after this (which is exactly what he was already talking about during D1) happens. Extremely unlike, like 1% likely. | ||
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You say things like: On February 13 2018 08:54 disformation wrote: igoring d1. less likely that scum did nothing and just sheeped rayn on rs. that makes conv and df look better. esp if damdy is town. So, idk, do conv and df look like scum if damdred is town then or what? | ||
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I really don't think Damdred is mafia because aside from all the inconsistancies he has the big towntell of emoing during the "mderg wagon is pure" -case which i don't think makes any sense since rsoultin was already pushing Damdred as mafia at that point. So if Damdred is mafia the game is a bus there and therefore it doesn't make sense to me he gets all emo about something he shouldn't. Also rsoultin had a veeeery hard time reacting in any way to that particular outburst from Damdred and i am not sure, if they were both mafia, why couldn't she do that (since it's obviously fake). I find it more likely she doesn't want to, because damdred is her friend, and she knows the reaction is genuine. And i don't mean she should have called that scummy or overblown or whatever, but the complete lack of any reasonable reaction makes me think Damdred is more likely to be town. | ||
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On February 13 2018 19:18 Koshi wrote: Small meta thing. Disfo tends to make good posts as mafia and then goes "rawr rawr my post is so good rawr rawr" But as town he makes a good point and then instantly counters his own good point with like a supershitty point and acts like his good point isnt good anymore. I believe you. | ||
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N1 and after though the posts from Damdred and darthfoley are really good and THAT is a play that ACTUALLY doesn't make sense compared to others (hard-reading rsoultin scum still when you don't have to). Conversion i already talked about. Then there is ritoky and Holyflare. And i find it extremely unlike that, at the start of the game when rsoultin gave her reads list the first time "for real" he called mderg/ritoky/conversion scum, she would call both of her partners scum there (this is a point where no lynch is nowhere near set in stone yet). | ||
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On February 13 2018 21:40 Holyflare wrote: Look at the time gaps between all those posts. Just because I don't post them every time doesn't mean I don't think it upon skimming. I also posted about sheeping my town reads when I lynched mderg so it's without a doubt not a lie. Can you quote me where you did that? | ||
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On February 13 2018 21:54 Koshi wrote: Man...I played way better if damdred is mafia. I am even mvp if df is mafia. But that is not going to happen maybe. yeah yo uare always mvp because you called everyone in the game mafia. c'mon Koshi, that's what you do, you did well on D1 though, equally well than anyone else though lol. | ||
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I don't. You're good at finding mafia but when the game goes to a specific direction you abandon all responsibility and go on autopilot and that's bad, like with rsoultin in this game. Like with Mocsta last game. Your disformation read was cool though, you should have just said what you did today like days ago so i could check if it is a fact or not and act accordingly. I am not sure if you care too much about your image or what but it is super annoying when you have a "vigilante" D1 read that ends up on mafia you use all your town credit to only push the people who thread sentiment says is mafia. | ||
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Why do i have to play this game on my own rn? Just that you can be mvp because you were "never wrong"? | ||
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On February 13 2018 22:08 Koshi wrote: But it had 0 value and you checked most obvious townie mocsta 2018 and then disformation who also was pretty townie. Like... wasted checks imho. Right, and all you managed to contribute towards this is that "Mocsta is town" and "disformation is town". So don't blame me. | ||
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On February 13 2018 22:11 prplhz wrote: what the fuck are you guys even talking about idk, can you talk about any fucking fuck? it is really fucking annoying when 99% confirmed town person decides to fuck off from the game and do nothing. Why do you play this game if the only thing you can do is vote off wagon always and never have anything to say? What is the point? Can you even answer that simple question? Why do you refuse to play the game given the position you are in? | ||
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On February 13 2018 22:20 Koshi wrote: You cant do that dumbass | ||
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I think that is a shit case. | ||
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On February 13 2018 21:40 Holyflare wrote: Look at the time gaps between all those posts. Just because I don't post them every time doesn't mean I don't think it upon skimming. I also posted about sheeping my town reads when I lynched mderg so it's without a doubt not a lie. quotes? | ||
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On February 14 2018 00:15 Holyflare wrote: His willingness to jump on every wagon presented. Didn't go on rsoul and not even damdred eventually after repeatedly saying there's many things that make him mafia. but Damdred is not mafia if Koshi is so this is sorta bad case. | ||
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Sorry HF. | ||
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I am sad i can't be around during eod. The first time i had actually time to read eod1 properly was yesterday. No more mafia for me. | ||
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On February 14 2018 05:18 Mocsta wrote: Im glad my bomb claim drew an rb Srsly rofl? | ||
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On February 14 2018 05:23 rsoultin wrote: I thought he was being obviously faking blue to misdirect ;o; when he was just obviously faking. Rude. He's just obviously Mocsta. | ||
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If i was to lynch people who weren't being logical i would have lynched Conversion and Damdred. Ironically though, i didn't get Damdred as scum because i did the opposite. | ||
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On February 09 2018 13:35 Mocsta wrote: I REALLY HATE THIS exchange On February 07 2018 16:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: while mderg lacks a bit of enthusiasm he had last game i think the last game was best i have ever seen mderg play. Also i think he is focusing on the right things (aka rsoultin). On February 07 2018 20:29 mderg wrote: Be honest, you're only townreading me because I'm on the same page as you on rsoultin. I haven't done shit this game. I just see no value in stating this to a town player. The only motive I think that is acceptable is scum distancing. On February 09 2018 20:03 Mocsta wrote: seriously, im more than happy to lynch rayn first will benefit thread regardless. i dont care how tunneled you are.. even DF dropped his scum read on me after the mderg wagon. rayn on the other hand.. this play makes sense to me as scum for 2 reasons (1) He wants to shit up town atmosphere and thinks I will bite back (2) Senses there are some ppl that would consider my lynch (e.g. ritoky and conversion) its quite a safe play (very similar to what i decided to do with Holyflare on day2 of previous game). I mean, you took a post that mderg made, made a conclusion that i am mafia BECAUSE of what mderg said, and then looked for something that will fit your conclusion. I think it's a wrong way to look at things. The fact that i didn't even remember mderg making that post can be seen as scummy, but you turned the situation upside down and to me it looked like after that you were just trying to find stuff that supports your conclusion in a way that you just made up reasons why anything i did was scummy. Because honestly the points (1) and (2) are quite bad. I never did (1), and there was never any indication of (2) before i called you mafia. Also it's not a safe play to call someone who everyone townreads, mafia..... Also i am still very confused about the tags thing, i know you have explained it multiple times but i still don't understand. | ||
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On February 15 2018 02:00 Half the Sky wrote: What about a modified version of BH's Twitterverse mafia? 5 posts/140 characters and normal cycles is extremely low but I think a few tweaks to that and it may not be a horrible idea. (for starters, plurality and not majority lynch and Palmar had some seemingly good ideas in that postgame) At least reading that prior game it didn't look too horrible. The problem with post restrictions is that during certain situations it limits the players chances of doing shit (regardless of affiliation). Like if you have to prove you are not mafia and someone (or worse, like 4-5 players) ask you questions you cannot answer them all since you don't have necessarily posts to counter the arguments. Artificially "helping" the problem with things like "for the last three hours of day phase you are allowed to post as much as you like" kind of defeats the whole idea in the first place and it treats people with different standards because not everyone can be around at fixed times. Basically post restrictions are just bad. | ||
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I am not sure why i should learn from comments like that? | ||
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