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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 06 2018 03:24 GMT
#161
truffle
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 06 2018 03:24 GMT
#162
On February 06 2018 12:23 Trfel wrote:
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On February 06 2018 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:07 Trfel wrote:
Conversion, I'm really confused by what you're saying about rsoultin. I may be misunderstanding your argument entirely, correct me if I'm wrong (posts 122-124), but you seem to be saying that one of the reasons you're willing to lynch rsoultin is that she randomly picked on your post and not the other joke posts at the time. Or what is going on here?


Her nitpicky post just seemed pretty forced to try and make something out of obviously nothing. I see that more scum than town.
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On February 06 2018 06:52 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
The fact is you can't be bothered because it isn't really important and is pretty irrelevant. Rayn makes a wall of text on it and it's overblown. There's a couple of reasons that spring to mind but there's nothing wrong with voting rayn in the meantime.
a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol

But.. what yoy say is interesting.
I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping"

Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me


I am curious as to what part of her sharing her opinion on my obviously joke post on HF being Serial Killer sounds bullshitty
In that case, why did you ask this question to mderg, if you agreed with his assessment?


Because calling people's opinions bullshitty doesn't make sense in my head, and is also seemingly forced to try and look active?

I don't get this line of questioning. I can ask people about their motivations even if I may agree with them
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 06 2018 03:27 GMT
#163
even if I may agree with their statements*
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 06 2018 03:36 GMT
#164
On February 06 2018 12:24 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 12:23 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:07 Trfel wrote:
Conversion, I'm really confused by what you're saying about rsoultin. I may be misunderstanding your argument entirely, correct me if I'm wrong (posts 122-124), but you seem to be saying that one of the reasons you're willing to lynch rsoultin is that she randomly picked on your post and not the other joke posts at the time. Or what is going on here?


Her nitpicky post just seemed pretty forced to try and make something out of obviously nothing. I see that more scum than town.
On February 06 2018 06:52 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
The fact is you can't be bothered because it isn't really important and is pretty irrelevant. Rayn makes a wall of text on it and it's overblown. There's a couple of reasons that spring to mind but there's nothing wrong with voting rayn in the meantime.
a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol

But.. what yoy say is interesting.
I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping"

Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me


I am curious as to what part of her sharing her opinion on my obviously joke post on HF being Serial Killer sounds bullshitty
In that case, why did you ask this question to mderg, if you agreed with his assessment?


Because calling people's opinions bullshitty doesn't make sense in my head, and is also seemingly forced to try and look active?

I don't get this line of questioning. I can ask people about their motivations even if I may agree with them
First of all, thank you for answering.

Yes you can ask for motivations even if you don't agree. It just really doesn't seem like you cared about mderg's answer, it doesn't seem like you were actually interested at all.

To me it reads like: you thought it was weird that rsoultin picked on your joke post and not the others. Someone else disliked the same thing as you. You then asked them about it, and didn't seem to draw anything from their response. While at the same time, you cared enough about rsoultin's comments to ultimately vote her for it, but not enough to say it?

Like if I were in your shoes, I would have been much more interested in talking about rsoultin's comments and why they were suspicious than I would be in questioning someone who agrees with me. Did I explain that coherently enough?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 06 2018 03:42 GMT
#165
Mocsta, I'm sorry, I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding what you're saying in your case on rsoultin. Is this a correct summary?

#1: Rsoultin isn't attempting to discern raynpelikoneet's motives
#2: Inconsistency with respect to whether or not the serial killer discussion is actually important
#3: Passive-aggressively throwing suspicion at other players while giving a way out
#4: Not attempting to find mafia between Conversion and Holyflare

If those are wrong, then don't bother with the following questions.

I looked (very briefly) at rsoultin's last game that you linked, how is a post like this different from what you're seeing in this game with respect to the passive-aggressive play and pushing suspicion? I'm not seeing a significant difference.

Also I am not sure what makes you think that rsoultin thinks there is mafia between Conversion and Holyflare in the first place? Or am I missing that?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 06 2018 03:46 GMT
#166
Ritoky, may I ask why you're so confident in Holyflare being town?

I'm pretty sure I see what you're getting at but Holflare tends to destroy hopes and dreams as mafia, I'm just curious as to how you're so confident so quickly.

Also, how serious is your read on Koshi?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 06 2018 03:52 GMT
#167
i read the conversation about the serial killer, and proceeded to roll my eyes and say to myself "this is so dumb". hf did the same thing at the same time. i am town, thus he is town.

koshi is a detriment to town regardless of his alignment; so if there is no compelling alternative, removing him from the game is always a positive.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2018 04:08 GMT
#168
On February 06 2018 12:42 Trfel wrote:
Mocsta, I'm sorry, I'm having a bit of a hard time understanding what you're saying in your case on rsoultin. Is this a correct summary?

#1: Rsoultin isn't attempting to discern raynpelikoneet's motives
#2: Inconsistency with respect to whether or not the serial killer discussion is actually important
#3: Passive-aggressively throwing suspicion at other players while giving a way out
#4: Not attempting to find mafia between Conversion and Holyflare

If those are wrong, then don't bother with the following questions.

I looked (very briefly) at rsoultin's last game that you linked, how is a post like this different from what you're seeing in this game with respect to the passive-aggressive play and pushing suspicion? I'm not seeing a significant difference.

Also I am not sure what makes you think that rsoultin thinks there is mafia between Conversion and Holyflare in the first place? Or am I missing that?
Hi trfel,

#1 to #3 is correct interpretation.

Re: previous game
I don't see a similarity inclusive of the post you linked.
That particular post during the early game divulges some insight in paying attention across the whole slew of posters.
I dont believe there is any blatant misrepresentation that game of people forming a "bandwagon" either.
Having said that, I dont want to focus exclusively on past games, as it was never intended as a meta case. It was merely a supporting component.

As for #4
To be frank, I interpretted it as a freudian slip however I am cognizant this could be confirmation bias.
Given the prior narrative never committed along the mafia association, I am inclined to interpret this exchange as she was thinking about mafia risks/actions at the time.
The bias being that: Realistically mafia are the most concerned about SK on Day1. Need to plan to not shoot (as can assume there is a 1-shot vest); and also not being shot by SK.

The other reason I quoted item #4 was because of how she was starting to throw shit my way by saying i joined a bandwagon.
2 people out of 13 or whatever it is, is hardly a bandwagon. She is highly exaggerating circumstances to influence perception. I find this to be a scummy means of diverting pressure before it leads to a wagon.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 06 2018 04:18 GMT
#169
On February 06 2018 12:36 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 12:24 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:23 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:07 Trfel wrote:
Conversion, I'm really confused by what you're saying about rsoultin. I may be misunderstanding your argument entirely, correct me if I'm wrong (posts 122-124), but you seem to be saying that one of the reasons you're willing to lynch rsoultin is that she randomly picked on your post and not the other joke posts at the time. Or what is going on here?


Her nitpicky post just seemed pretty forced to try and make something out of obviously nothing. I see that more scum than town.
On February 06 2018 06:52 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
The fact is you can't be bothered because it isn't really important and is pretty irrelevant. Rayn makes a wall of text on it and it's overblown. There's a couple of reasons that spring to mind but there's nothing wrong with voting rayn in the meantime.
a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol

But.. what yoy say is interesting.
I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping"

Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me


I am curious as to what part of her sharing her opinion on my obviously joke post on HF being Serial Killer sounds bullshitty
In that case, why did you ask this question to mderg, if you agreed with his assessment?


Because calling people's opinions bullshitty doesn't make sense in my head, and is also seemingly forced to try and look active?

I don't get this line of questioning. I can ask people about their motivations even if I may agree with them
First of all, thank you for answering.

Yes you can ask for motivations even if you don't agree. It just really doesn't seem like you cared about mderg's answer, it doesn't seem like you were actually interested at all.

To me it reads like: you thought it was weird that rsoultin picked on your joke post and not the others. Someone else disliked the same thing as you. You then asked them about it, and didn't seem to draw anything from their response. While at the same time, you cared enough about rsoultin's comments to ultimately vote her for it, but not enough to say it?

Like if I were in your shoes, I would have been much more interested in talking about rsoultin's comments and why they were suspicious than I would be in questioning someone who agrees with me. Did I explain that coherently enough?


I can concede to your points, but if I can ask again.. where is this leading? Do you think I'm scummy because of your aforementioned points? The jist of your arguments is that you find my play style not aligned with how you would play.. but what comes from that. Does that make me scummy because I have done something that isn't within the realm of how you would play if you were town?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 06 2018 04:19 GMT
#170
I also don't get how you determined that I did not care about mderg's comment-- he answered me indirectly by answering rsoultin and said bullshitty was the wrong word for it, so I had no more to follow up on it.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 06 2018 04:21 GMT
#171
On February 06 2018 13:18 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 12:36 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:24 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:23 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:07 Trfel wrote:
Conversion, I'm really confused by what you're saying about rsoultin. I may be misunderstanding your argument entirely, correct me if I'm wrong (posts 122-124), but you seem to be saying that one of the reasons you're willing to lynch rsoultin is that she randomly picked on your post and not the other joke posts at the time. Or what is going on here?


Her nitpicky post just seemed pretty forced to try and make something out of obviously nothing. I see that more scum than town.
On February 06 2018 06:52 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:31 Holyflare wrote:
The fact is you can't be bothered because it isn't really important and is pretty irrelevant. Rayn makes a wall of text on it and it's overblown. There's a couple of reasons that spring to mind but there's nothing wrong with voting rayn in the meantime.
a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol

But.. what yoy say is interesting.
I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping"

Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me


I am curious as to what part of her sharing her opinion on my obviously joke post on HF being Serial Killer sounds bullshitty
In that case, why did you ask this question to mderg, if you agreed with his assessment?


Because calling people's opinions bullshitty doesn't make sense in my head, and is also seemingly forced to try and look active?

I don't get this line of questioning. I can ask people about their motivations even if I may agree with them
First of all, thank you for answering.

Yes you can ask for motivations even if you don't agree. It just really doesn't seem like you cared about mderg's answer, it doesn't seem like you were actually interested at all.

To me it reads like: you thought it was weird that rsoultin picked on your joke post and not the others. Someone else disliked the same thing as you. You then asked them about it, and didn't seem to draw anything from their response. While at the same time, you cared enough about rsoultin's comments to ultimately vote her for it, but not enough to say it?

Like if I were in your shoes, I would have been much more interested in talking about rsoultin's comments and why they were suspicious than I would be in questioning someone who agrees with me. Did I explain that coherently enough?


I can concede to your points, but if I can ask again.. where is this leading? Do you think I'm scummy because of your aforementioned points? The jist of your arguments is that you find my play style not aligned with how you would play.. but what comes from that. Does that make me scummy because I have done something that isn't within the realm of how you would play if you were town?
It's not really that you did something other than what I would do. It's that the series of posts doesn't seem to show that you cared at all about your read on rsoultin. I do indeed think that it is suspicious that you had a read on rsoultin that you didn't seem to care enough about that you then decided to vote her for and then ask others to join you in.

On a change of subject, Conversion, what did you get out of Mocsta's case on rsoultin? Because frankly I'm having trouble understanding it, and you seemed to find it decently convincing. What stood out to you about it?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 06 2018 04:24 GMT
#172
@Ritoky, fair enough, I suppose. Thanks.

@Mocsta, thanks for explaining. I will let the meta point drop. I'm really sorry, I have no clue what you're trying to say for #4. If it's really important I can try again, otherwise I don't really agree with your read right now so I don't think it's significant.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2018 04:36 GMT
#173
On February 06 2018 13:24 Trfel wrote:
@Mocsta, thanks for explaining. I will let the meta point drop. I'm really sorry, I have no clue what you're trying to say for #4. If it's really important I can try again, otherwise I don't really agree with your read right now so I don't think it's significant.
Appreciate you looking through it anyways.

I read through the game again, and Im not as certain as I was prior either - perhaps because this discussion with conversion has (in a good way) taken me off focusing on myself.
Having said that, I personally see sufficient change between this and last game to maintain my vote - even though its not a meta case!

Do you see anything sinister with DF?
Im struggling to understand his logic (in particular related to me); however, I also think that he is too accepting of the spotlight to be mafia vibes.



Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2018 04:38 GMT
#174
also trfel.
did my point #2 make sense?

Thats one of my biggest concerns, and i didnt see you note that.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2018 04:40 GMT
#175
lol.. sorry, and in general you dont find her overexaggerating the pressure on her?

I read it again, and im nodding my head. so meh. dunno where to go with this.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 06 2018 04:47 GMT
#176
On February 06 2018 13:19 Conversion wrote:
I also don't get how you determined that I did not care about mderg's comment-- he answered me indirectly by answering rsoultin and said bullshitty was the wrong word for it, so I had no more to follow up on it.
Fair enough. I feel that when someone asks a question, gets a response, and doesn't mention it again, that they didn't really care about it in the first place, but I'm willing to drop this point.
On February 06 2018 13:36 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 13:24 Trfel wrote:
@Mocsta, thanks for explaining. I will let the meta point drop. I'm really sorry, I have no clue what you're trying to say for #4. If it's really important I can try again, otherwise I don't really agree with your read right now so I don't think it's significant.
Appreciate you looking through it anyways.

I read through the game again, and Im not as certain as I was prior either - perhaps because this discussion with conversion has (in a good way) taken me off focusing on myself.
Having said that, I personally see sufficient change between this and last game to maintain my vote - even though its not a meta case!

Do you see anything sinister with DF?
Im struggling to understand his logic (in particular related to me); however, I also think that he is too accepting of the spotlight to be mafia vibes.
Yeah I'm not necessarily opposed to talking more about the rsoultin read, I'd just rather have Conversion answer my above question first (for obvious reasons). And I don't really see it making me vote for rsoultin.

I'm not thrilled about darthfoley, to be honest. I also felt that his read on you didn't make a ton of sense, waiting for his explanation on that again. I didn't like the way that he seems suspicious of everything: no townreads, suspicious of both rsoultin and you, and suspicious of both Conversion's introduction and rsoultin's comment about it. Makes me feel like he's trying to keep all of his options open. He's probably my #2 suspect, after Conversion.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2018 04:54 GMT
#177
On February 06 2018 07:00 Conversion wrote:
@HF, Post from rayn that made you vote him for now is not typical strong-headed rayn, but it is overblown mafia rayn trying too hard to look like town rayn? or are you just objectively saying this is overblown mafia post
Im also interested in what this was leading?
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 06 2018 05:11 GMT
#178
On February 06 2018 13:21 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 13:18 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:36 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:24 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:23 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:07 Trfel wrote:
Conversion, I'm really confused by what you're saying about rsoultin. I may be misunderstanding your argument entirely, correct me if I'm wrong (posts 122-124), but you seem to be saying that one of the reasons you're willing to lynch rsoultin is that she randomly picked on your post and not the other joke posts at the time. Or what is going on here?


Her nitpicky post just seemed pretty forced to try and make something out of obviously nothing. I see that more scum than town.
On February 06 2018 06:52 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:34 Mocsta wrote:
[quote]a tually ita because i needed to piss and am goinf back to sleep lol

But.. what yoy say is interesting.
I will considee when i wake if a wall of text was deserving over a "ping"

Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me


I am curious as to what part of her sharing her opinion on my obviously joke post on HF being Serial Killer sounds bullshitty
In that case, why did you ask this question to mderg, if you agreed with his assessment?


Because calling people's opinions bullshitty doesn't make sense in my head, and is also seemingly forced to try and look active?

I don't get this line of questioning. I can ask people about their motivations even if I may agree with them
First of all, thank you for answering.

Yes you can ask for motivations even if you don't agree. It just really doesn't seem like you cared about mderg's answer, it doesn't seem like you were actually interested at all.

To me it reads like: you thought it was weird that rsoultin picked on your joke post and not the others. Someone else disliked the same thing as you. You then asked them about it, and didn't seem to draw anything from their response. While at the same time, you cared enough about rsoultin's comments to ultimately vote her for it, but not enough to say it?

Like if I were in your shoes, I would have been much more interested in talking about rsoultin's comments and why they were suspicious than I would be in questioning someone who agrees with me. Did I explain that coherently enough?


I can concede to your points, but if I can ask again.. where is this leading? Do you think I'm scummy because of your aforementioned points? The jist of your arguments is that you find my play style not aligned with how you would play.. but what comes from that. Does that make me scummy because I have done something that isn't within the realm of how you would play if you were town?
It's not really that you did something other than what I would do. It's that the series of posts doesn't seem to show that you cared at all about your read on rsoultin. I do indeed think that it is suspicious that you had a read on rsoultin that you didn't seem to care enough about that you then decided to vote her for and then ask others to join you in.

On a change of subject, Conversion, what did you get out of Mocsta's case on rsoultin? Because frankly I'm having trouble understanding it, and you seemed to find it decently convincing. What stood out to you about it?


I'm tired and I'm just going to say two things.

1) I never tried to get other people on rsoultin. I stated that in my head (whenever I voted her) that she was the best lynch at that time.

2) I guess the language is at fault with me when I said I sheeped. I should have stated that I was joining Mocsta's wagon. His case made me think a bit more about rsoultin and then I put my reasons out in my filter (to which, you have questioned I believe).

On February 06 2018 13:54 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 06 2018 07:00 Conversion wrote:
@HF, Post from rayn that made you vote him for now is not typical strong-headed rayn, but it is overblown mafia rayn trying too hard to look like town rayn? or are you just objectively saying this is overblown mafia post
Im also interested in what this was leading?


This is because to me rayn looks normal, but HF thinks it is overblown so I wanted clarification
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
February 06 2018 05:11 GMT
#179
I guess I said three things, not two things. Woops
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
February 06 2018 05:19 GMT
#180
On February 06 2018 14:11 Conversion wrote:
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On February 06 2018 13:21 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 13:18 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:36 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:24 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:23 Trfel wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:21 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 12:07 Trfel wrote:
Conversion, I'm really confused by what you're saying about rsoultin. I may be misunderstanding your argument entirely, correct me if I'm wrong (posts 122-124), but you seem to be saying that one of the reasons you're willing to lynch rsoultin is that she randomly picked on your post and not the other joke posts at the time. Or what is going on here?


Her nitpicky post just seemed pretty forced to try and make something out of obviously nothing. I see that more scum than town.
On February 06 2018 06:52 Conversion wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:45 mderg wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:37 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 06:36 mderg wrote:
[quote]
Going back to sleep is probably a good idea considering the way you write at the moment

Bro-ski
Nice joke but not very hipster of you

Be that wanderer and tell me thoights on rsoultin please

Was thinking nothing about her posts but that
On February 06 2018 06:13 rsoultin wrote:
@Rayn, his post caught my eye because, to me, it's a bit of an unnatural place for someone's mind to go. But it's hardly worth pursuing unless night actions get strange. I'm not sure why you're bothering to ask me such an open-ended, obscure question, though.

actually sounds a bit bullshitty to me


I am curious as to what part of her sharing her opinion on my obviously joke post on HF being Serial Killer sounds bullshitty
In that case, why did you ask this question to mderg, if you agreed with his assessment?


Because calling people's opinions bullshitty doesn't make sense in my head, and is also seemingly forced to try and look active?

I don't get this line of questioning. I can ask people about their motivations even if I may agree with them
First of all, thank you for answering.

Yes you can ask for motivations even if you don't agree. It just really doesn't seem like you cared about mderg's answer, it doesn't seem like you were actually interested at all.

To me it reads like: you thought it was weird that rsoultin picked on your joke post and not the others. Someone else disliked the same thing as you. You then asked them about it, and didn't seem to draw anything from their response. While at the same time, you cared enough about rsoultin's comments to ultimately vote her for it, but not enough to say it?

Like if I were in your shoes, I would have been much more interested in talking about rsoultin's comments and why they were suspicious than I would be in questioning someone who agrees with me. Did I explain that coherently enough?


I can concede to your points, but if I can ask again.. where is this leading? Do you think I'm scummy because of your aforementioned points? The jist of your arguments is that you find my play style not aligned with how you would play.. but what comes from that. Does that make me scummy because I have done something that isn't within the realm of how you would play if you were town?
It's not really that you did something other than what I would do. It's that the series of posts doesn't seem to show that you cared at all about your read on rsoultin. I do indeed think that it is suspicious that you had a read on rsoultin that you didn't seem to care enough about that you then decided to vote her for and then ask others to join you in.

On a change of subject, Conversion, what did you get out of Mocsta's case on rsoultin? Because frankly I'm having trouble understanding it, and you seemed to find it decently convincing. What stood out to you about it?


I'm tired and I'm just going to say two things.

1) I never tried to get other people on rsoultin. I stated that in my head (whenever I voted her) that she was the best lynch at that time.

2) I guess the language is at fault with me when I said I sheeped. I should have stated that I was joining Mocsta's wagon. His case made me think a bit more about rsoultin and then I put my reasons out in my filter (to which, you have questioned I believe).

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On February 06 2018 13:54 Mocsta wrote:
On February 06 2018 07:00 Conversion wrote:
@HF, Post from rayn that made you vote him for now is not typical strong-headed rayn, but it is overblown mafia rayn trying too hard to look like town rayn? or are you just objectively saying this is overblown mafia post
Im also interested in what this was leading?


This is because to me rayn looks normal, but HF thinks it is overblown so I wanted clarification
Im not a fan of this.

It appears you dont agree with my reasoning; however, I did ask you to identify flaws and instead: you chose to extend a vote based on joke nitpicking, whilst brushing off responsibility by commenting half the thread hasnt voted.


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