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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 10:25 GMT
#569
On February 07 2018 19:24 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 07 2018 19:20 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:14 rsoultin wrote:
On February 07 2018 19:05 ritoky wrote:
yeah i don't really think he is mafia at all, so not doing that.


Because of townreading Rels? I mean, I understand why you think it might be...I forget the word...angling? Hold on, let me pop back into the DF filter.


Nh. I don't know. It kind of seems like you're assuming an inexplicable townread comes from that with no basis in fact. Other than maybe his unwilligness to elaborate.

Which is weird, really. If he was angling and you already publically identified it, why would he feel the need to keep it secret?

More to the point, it's Rels. He is French. And I know that I've seen him make posts like that before. (Thought he did in Newbie, but I guess I was wrong.) It's possible that darthfoley read into it I suppose but...meh. I just don't find this theory as compelling as the rest of his filter, even if it's technically possible.

You mentioned tone before. Are those two reasons your main reasons for townreading him?


:/ You're not supposed to leave, ritoky.

Where is the fucking DF filter dive i am getting annoyed on you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 10:26 GMT
#571
youve been doing it for like 2 hours-.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 10:26 GMT
#574
gg then
#unvote darthfoley
##vote rsoultin


afk, work.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 12:05 GMT
#623
Yes lynch Damdred again and let df and rsoultin away with that bs. maybe even better lynch me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 12:06 GMT
#624
Or mby you should wait until d2 and lynch unccd vigilante who shot mafia because someone talked about sk. That would make my day.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 19:38 GMT
#788
Either rsoultin or df.
Neither of prplhz or mderg is scum.

I have no time to write more.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 20:50 GMT
#907
I am sorry df youre not mafia.
rsoultin however is.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 07 2018 20:52 GMT
#909
Never ever let that slide. Please. Mafia dude refuses to save himself and so does the counter wagon. Both mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 08:59 GMT
#1150
On February 08 2018 06:35 darthfoley wrote:
if rsoultin is town, prplhz is almost certainly town too

prplhz is town in any case i think.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 09:00 GMT
#1151
On February 08 2018 06:50 Mocsta wrote:
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On February 08 2018 06:46 ritoky wrote:
casually lynching mafia on my birthday.

framer implies cop. cop should be on rsoul, green gives us 6 or 7 confirmed. red gives us 2 mafia in 2 days; both are pretty unlosable scenarios.

gonna try to finish my nap before birthday dinner, cya tomorrow.

Love it

<b>bomb: damdred</b>

uh oh... now i kinda think you're mafia.
you've done this before when you write into mafia qt and then come to thread and forget which tags to use.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 09:07 GMT
#1155
On February 08 2018 08:01 Koshi wrote:
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On February 08 2018 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am sorry df youre not mafia.
rsoultin however is.

I think she isn't. The play was so bad if they were both mafia that I think it is more likely she was bad as town.

mafia!rsoultin left mafia!mdergs wagon for a play that extremely unlikely would work. And if she pulled it off and she/mderg die in the future they both look like shit. If she stayed on the mderg wagon she is not going to get lynched till D3. And with minimal effort D4.

The best play as mafia is ALWAYS to bus mderg.

So what.. you're saying mderg sacced himself so a townie looks bad? I don't think it makes any sense in any world sorry. rsoultin not voting for mderg is not that bad (although i don't believe that either -- that rsoultin doesn't save herself over someone she has had a scumread just a while ago). Well it kinda is because i really do not see rsoultin not voting for mderg as town even if she actually has a super duper big townread on mderg.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 09:08 GMT
#1156
On February 08 2018 08:02 Koshi wrote:
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On February 08 2018 05:54 prplhz wrote:
On February 08 2018 05:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Never ever let that slide. Please. Mafia dude refuses to save himself and so does the counter wagon. Both mafia.

Eh I don't think mafia!rsoultin would do that except to throw people off or something. If anything, she plays to win, always.

I like you. I like you a lot.

See Koshi here. " If anything, she plays to win, always."
So playing to win is refusing to save herself over a guy who she has mafiaread just a while ago and the only reason not to is that mderg doesn't want to save himself??????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 09:29 GMT
#1159
Mocsta. I genuinely believe Mocsta slipped because he has slipped like that before.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 09:31 GMT
#1161
Damdred, Conversion or disformation can be mafia i agree, if you are not. But rn i don't have any reason to think you're not mafia. I am a bit confused, are you scumreading me or not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 09:34 GMT
#1162
I take that back, I don't reallyn think Damdred is mafia unless he is mafia exactly with rsoultin.
Damdred + mderg could have saved mderg.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 09:35 GMT
#1163
Ah no, i take that back again because i misread the votes.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:06 GMT
#1169
On February 08 2018 18:36 rsoultin wrote:
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On February 08 2018 18:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred, Conversion or disformation can be mafia i agree, if you are not. But rn i don't have any reason to think you're not mafia. I am a bit confused, are you scumreading me or not?


I'm not as convinced you're town as most of my other townreads, and I think there's scum between you and Darth Foley. The mderg read was bad. I also don't understand your reaction to my df filter dive at all.

I quote my read that was already posted and you apparently missed to you and you insta-vote me without explanation?

See here is the thing - aside from all the mderg stuff.

mderg read was bad... yeah ofc because he was scum, your read on mderg though, was that good? And your vote, yeah i guess it was really good or what?

I think you're totally misinterpreting why i was voting for you. What i said early on in the game didn't go anywhere but somehow you magically just discard that. Then there is what Holyflare said, the post i quoted from him. I think it was a good summary of your play after i told you to go look for mafia. And yes, i don't remember your df post. If you made on it was not either convincing, or you didn't actually try to do anything with it. I went to your filter to confirm and at p4-5 yes you made a post on df but you seem more interested in talking about anything else than df. That doesn't resonate at all with what you did for example with Damerion or even df last game. So no, i don't believe yo uactually strongly thought he was mafia and if you didn't, it doesn't mean shit regarding my read on you since it is as likely you're just throwing shade as scum than it is that you are actually trying to scumhunt -- from my perspective i can't tell the difference so i find it extremely unfair you are trying to say i should have somehow seen it given that i already scumread you before.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:27 GMT
#1177
Furthermore, here is what i saw at the eod. Correct me if i am wrong as i was speedreading whenever i got a chance during work. Lynches were rsoultin or mderg. prplhz was thrown in as a third option. I personally thought prplhz was actaully in some kind of danger (like he had as many votes or close to rsoul/mderg) of getting lynched. The reason (Koshi mentioned this) i said i think prplhz is town in a post close to deadline is because i had actually no clue where the votes are and prplhz brought up shennies which i find to be dumb as scum (as i read mderg as town) since from my perspective the shennies would most likely end up on him. He could have just voted for mderg for some random reason (yes, he tends to do that -- i know it from experience, as mafia).

Another thing is that noone was really pushing anything over rsoultin, other than mderg. Which is why i also find it more likely that rsoultin is mafia too. There was mderg -- rsoultin -- (prplhz). Which mafia team doesn't do anything in this situation in case only mderg is mafia? If we exclude prplhz why don't mafia vote for rsoultin or try to get her lynched instead? The only reasons in case rsoultin is town are semi-afk mafia at the time (rels slot, and i have to check on conv,ritoky,mocsta and damdred) or there is already a bus and crossed fingers (mocsta, possibly ritoky -- i don't believe anyone else here is bussing). But i don't find this scenario more likely than just that rsoultin is mafia, based on both mderg's and rsoultin's actions at the deadline.

Koshi is quite obviously town.

Trfel is quite obviously town.

prplhz i talked about earlier, town.

I believe darthfoley would have pushed rsoultin lynch more near the deadline in case he was mafia, if he is mafia with rsoultin the whole mafia teams play during whole D1 doesn't make any fucking sense at all so the only conclusion i can come to is that he is town.

ritoky voted for mderg so he gets a pass for now.

Holyflare could technically be scum if rsoultin is scum but i don't really believe D1 would have ended in a mafia lynch in case Holyflare is mafia, and he also voted for mderg, so town.

Mocsta slipped, probably scum. Could bus. Already did so (although softly) last game.

disformation nothing to say here.

Damdred and Conversion. Conversion's tone sounds townie but idk if to trust that. Also Koshi i think made a decent case. Idk, tone says town, hard evidence says mafia. Damdred could be anything.

I'd still roll with rsoultin and Mocsta.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:32 GMT
#1179
On February 08 2018 19:13 rsoultin wrote:
How do you get me saying you were only scumreading me because you didn't see my df read from that? I just wanted to know where the insta vote came from.

Which you still haven't explained by the way.

Because that's what you said?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I honestly can't believe you are so close-minded you can't figure out my vote came from like 20 of the same posts i made on you and the fact i said here:
On February 07 2018 17:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On February 07 2018 17:45 rsoultin wrote:
If you guys want to vote me, fine. Lynch me for closure. But I don't want any more talk about me today so that I can focus and have a chance of actually leaving good reads behind.

My problem is that i told you this like 100 hours ago -- after my push was initially that lead to all these people scumreading you, and you managed to do absolutely nothing after. So can you start now instead of still jsut complaining about ppl scumreading you? Sorry if i sound offensive, i don't mean to.

I wrote this AFTER i voted for you.

I cannot believe you cannot connect these two things to why i was voting for you and instead you invent a "wow i can't see why he is voting for me" narrative. If you think my reasoning is bs then just say so, but don't say you dont know what my reasoning is because my filter up to that point is 90% of why i think you're scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 08 2018 10:33 GMT
#1180
On February 08 2018 19:31 rsoultin wrote:
Prp was never in danger of being lynched.

Votewise correct. Thread sentiment doesn't suggest so.
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