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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 19:41 GMT
#349
People townreading Trfel are either seeing a different game from me or lazy
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 19:43 GMT
#350
Rels probably town actually.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 19:49 GMT
#351
On February 06 2018 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If df doesn't wanna talk about rsoultin that could even be okay but it seems like he doesn't wanna talk about anything at all. Yes it seems like he is scumreading rsoultin rn, but i don't really feel like he actually wants to lynch rsoultin (aka same way Mocsta and DF scumread each other last game).


You're wrong about this btw. I have no problem talking about people, or reading cases that make sense and are succinct in their points. This includes rsoultin, who I think is probably scum.

What I don't like or appreciate are long winded and bloviating cases in which someone makes circuitous arguments that could easily be summed up insofar as people miss or completely lose the point said individual is trying to make with their roundabout way of posting.

I'm proud of that example btw ^.

Mocsta uses 500 words to make a point that could be made in 50. It is my right to completely skip past his post if I should choose. But that is not the same as refusing to engage with the thread about the main "event" of the day. His posting reminds me of Shapelog in which his mafia strategy revolves around confusing or boring people to death by making long ass posts. It's how I felt he played last game, and I see similar methods in this game.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 19:50 GMT
#352
And just to be clear: I think rsoultin is the best lynch atm. But I also think Trfel is a perfectly viable lynch option as well.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 20:13 GMT
#356
On February 07 2018 04:52 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 04:50 darthfoley wrote:
And just to be clear: I think rsoultin is the best lynch atm. But I also think Trfel is a perfectly viable lynch option as well.


So you're not at all perplexed why tfel is voting rsoul?


I need to look into that I guess. I just got off work and I have a meeting for another hour.

Basically I think prphlz made good points on Trfel and summarizes my problems with him
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 20:49 GMT
#358
Nvm I don't like rayn
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:03 GMT
#374
Trfel's "reason" to scumread me is lame as fuck and is also not true in the slightest
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:04 GMT
#375
Trfel is obsessed with giving himself outs and really super duper curious with what other people think 1000% of the time
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:12 GMT
#379
On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn?


I started to think about how his comparison of my last game (I was scum) and this game is not accurate. He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong. There have also been many whisperings of scum DF so it's the type of read I could see a mafia making to blend in with the crowd and see if it's worth pursuing later.

Plus he wrote a fucking essay on rsoultin saying like two sentences. See my Mocsta irritation
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:15 GMT
#380
On February 07 2018 08:09 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:03 darthfoley wrote:
Trfel's "reason" to scumread me is lame as fuck and is also not true in the slightest
Well, I have at least stated why I see it that way. Care to explain why I'm wrong in that? See here, here. If anything recent posts have only supported my suspicions IMO.

I'm happy to listen but you've got to give me some sort of anything, really.


1. I don't want to lynch everybody. In fact, I've been quite clear on who is in my suspect pool for today.

2. "I don't look like I'm thinking about it at all" is merely subjective. I am thinking about the game, which is why my read on rayn has changed, for example
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:17 GMT
#381
On February 06 2018 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If df doesn't wanna talk about rsoultin that could even be okay but it seems like he doesn't wanna talk about anything at all. Yes it seems like he is scumreading rsoultin rn, but i don't really feel like he actually wants to lynch rsoultin (aka same way Mocsta and DF scumread each other last game).


@ritoky this post is really bad and came at an opportune time
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:18 GMT
#382
##Vote:Rsoultin
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:20 GMT
#386
I'm probably gonna unvote rsoultin if Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta stay on her.

Bad company right there
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:21 GMT
#390
On February 07 2018 08:18 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:12 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn?


I started to think about how his comparison of my last game (I was scum) and this game is not accurate. He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong. There have also been many whisperings of scum DF so it's the type of read I could see a mafia making to blend in with the crowd and see if it's worth pursuing later.

Plus he wrote a fucking essay on rsoultin saying like two sentences. See my Mocsta irritation
LOL
I dont think you are playing like last game.

However, I also find you are less globally transparent than your recent town games in the database.

What I continue to not understand is: You think I am scum for Reasons XYZ.
Are you not concerned that it has been me suggesting you are not scum - for being comfortable in the spotlight?

The way you talk about me, at the very least, I would expect you to latch onto this stuff.




Talking about Rayn's read on me, not yours.

Your question suggests that mafia never white knight someone. You defending me has no alignment indication, especially when 3-4 people have floated my name.


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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:23 GMT
#391
On February 07 2018 08:21 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:20 darthfoley wrote:
I'm probably gonna unvote rsoultin if Trfel, Rayn and Mocsta stay on her.

Bad company right there
errrrrrr....

Im bussing Rsoultin ok.. stay boi. stay


Yea I've never seen you bus before tbh. Great point
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:24 GMT
#393
On February 07 2018 08:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:17 darthfoley wrote:
On February 06 2018 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If df doesn't wanna talk about rsoultin that could even be okay but it seems like he doesn't wanna talk about anything at all. Yes it seems like he is scumreading rsoultin rn, but i don't really feel like he actually wants to lynch rsoultin (aka same way Mocsta and DF scumread each other last game).


@ritoky this post is really bad and came at an opportune time


why is this post bad?


On February 07 2018 04:49 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2018 17:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If df doesn't wanna talk about rsoultin that could even be okay but it seems like he doesn't wanna talk about anything at all. Yes it seems like he is scumreading rsoultin rn, but i don't really feel like he actually wants to lynch rsoultin (aka same way Mocsta and DF scumread each other last game).


You're wrong about this btw. I have no problem talking about people, or reading cases that make sense and are succinct in their points. This includes rsoultin, who I think is probably scum.

What I don't like or appreciate are long winded and bloviating cases in which someone makes circuitous arguments that could easily be summed up insofar as people miss or completely lose the point said individual is trying to make with their roundabout way of posting.

I'm proud of that example btw ^.

Mocsta uses 500 words to make a point that could be made in 50. It is my right to completely skip past his post if I should choose. But that is not the same as refusing to engage with the thread about the main "event" of the day. His posting reminds me of Shapelog in which his mafia strategy revolves around confusing or boring people to death by making long ass posts. It's how I felt he played last game, and I see similar methods in this game.

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:26 GMT
#395
On February 07 2018 08:23 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2018 08:21 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:18 Mocsta wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:12 darthfoley wrote:
On February 07 2018 08:08 ritoky wrote:
df what made you go from liking rayn to not liking rayn?


I started to think about how his comparison of my last game (I was scum) and this game is not accurate. He followed closely in the obs last game and I believe the points he made in this game about me were wrong. There have also been many whisperings of scum DF so it's the type of read I could see a mafia making to blend in with the crowd and see if it's worth pursuing later.

Plus he wrote a fucking essay on rsoultin saying like two sentences. See my Mocsta irritation
LOL
I dont think you are playing like last game.

However, I also find you are less globally transparent than your recent town games in the database.

What I continue to not understand is: You think I am scum for Reasons XYZ.
Are you not concerned that it has been me suggesting you are not scum - for being comfortable in the spotlight?

The way you talk about me, at the very least, I would expect you to latch onto this stuff.




Talking about Rayn's read on me, not yours.

Your question suggests that mafia never white knight someone. You defending me has no alignment indication, especially when 3-4 people have floated my name.
This is my problem with you this game, if you are town.
You take anything from my filter, and construe it into the worst-possible outcome.

Why does it have to be so black and white?

Im really perplexed by this.


Because I just played scum with you and could see how you operate. Recency bias, plus you seem to be more concerned with being my psychologist rather than a peer. Feels similar to how you interacted with rsoultin last game.

You spent a lot of time trying to armchair psychologist her
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:29 GMT
#398
On February 07 2018 08:26 Holyflare wrote:
And why does that make that post bad? You literally acknowledge you didn't want to talk about the game because of Mocsta's wall of text etc. I haven't even read his wall of text but Rayn is saying you have a scum read that you aren't pushing and you're not interested in getting involved with the game. I feel much the same way. It's the opposite of a bad post imo.


You're very dense

Me not wanting to read Mocsta's wall of text =/= me not wanting to read the game. I can interact with the game without dealing with big ass confusing posts. That's like elementary logic
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:30 GMT
#400
I'm actually so tired of people scum reading me because they're lazy or mafia.

Look elsewhere and stop aggravating me.

+ Show Spoiler +
i am feeling the spirit. The fury, the passion, the anger. A person might say I have

Beentheredonethat
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 06 2018 23:32 GMT
#402
On February 07 2018 08:28 Koshi wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/528031-heroes-of-the-storm-mafia
Didn't play in it

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/525420-ms-paint-off-mafia
Was judge. Dnu how hard I scumread you but at worst I nominated you.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/519746-generic-mini-mafia
I was mafia in it. You were 15 times in my filter. 0 times I called you mafia.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/518289-im-a-cop-you-idiot-mafia-towns-revenge
didn't play init

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/514644-dota-2-mafia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512552-palmars-purge-crisis-and-turmoil-in-liquidia
I was mafia in this game. Not going to open my filter cuz I cba what I said when I was mafia at this point.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/509406-h-o-l-y-f-e-mafia
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On May 25 2016 06:21 Koshi wrote:
damn so many posts. HF might have made some sense. I stopped reading JAT his posts. Too boring. Really. Insane how boring.

I think ritoky is town so I'll entertain his TW read. I am pretty sure ritoky is town btw.

Superbia I'll read later, around D3. I am skipping his posts as well. There is such a big difference in his posting town vs mafia it isn't even funny. And he is posting stuff.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)
ritoky town
superbia 100% town
ls townish
hf made some sense and did really retarded shit which he does more as town than mafia

Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Palmar afk
marv afk
Rels afk

JAT superduper boring


others are meh. I don't know about Tumble. Ritoky might have made a point but on the other hand... I can see him be mafia though. But I wouldn't lynch him D1. Cuz he did make a post that made way more sense if he is town over mafia.

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 20:47 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:44 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 20:23 Rels wrote:
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

Why ?
On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

Why ?

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.

I have 0 read on kush so I won't fight this.

I disagree with the ritoky's read, he has put himself in a position where he does not need to do anything apart from responding to people. When someone types a code he responds to it. He didn't do anything that wasn't required. I agree his posts are good, he has good points on Tumble, he has good points on Superbia but the conclusion is stupid given his points, his post on SL is kinda useless.

I just read the whole game, it's true he didn't do much recently but the first impression was super good. I understood every thoughts of him and I agreed with his lynch list at the time it was posted.

ritoky obvious town. pls.

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On May 25 2016 20:49 Koshi wrote:
1. Holyflare obvious town
2. Damdred obvious trash
3. ritoky obvious town
4. Rels nullish town
5. LightningStrike pretty town
7. Palmar anti town trash
8. marvellosity afk
9. justanothertownie boring turtle
10. sicklucker obvious town
11. Superbia wounded animal
12. Tumblewood obvious town
13. nnn_thekushmountains nullish town

Show nested quote +
On May 25 2016 22:04 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2016 22:00 Tumblewood wrote:
Koshi why is rit town

Cuz I can see a town write the words he wrote. If a townie writes a case on a townie it will be false, but it is still a townie who wrote it.

AND THE KICKER IS

YOU WERE MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eventually I figured it out though:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2016 08:26 Koshi wrote:
ritoky broke his gameplan to defend HF which he had no business to defend. Proof? The reason he used. Nothing in the thread indicated fear lynching. Both marv and Palmar had reasoning and some other guy as well. And JAT and myself lynched HF for the retarded piece of shit selfvote.

While his push on Rels wasn't horrible when I read it, and it kinda was a very long shot for an attempt to save a scumbuddy, the fact he ended up on HF is ridiculous. Why would he end up on HF and not just stick on his Rels read? There was no reason for him to eventually end up on HF. Nothing. Nada.

I will reread ritoky and his case on Rels and other cases but in this moment I am 100% sure he is mafia. And I am so sure I am sure I will not change my point of view bar some really really really damning evidence on somebody else.


HF was also mafia. And I was shot N1. Goddamn I was good in 2017





These were all your games for 18 months. Went back to May 2016 and your filter doesn't go more back.
So I really don't know why you are such a whiny bitch atm.
I didn't scumread you in 1.5 years.


I don't think mafia!Koshi goes through all this effort
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