EPTThis means 1 of 2 things:
1) Damerionia not mafia.
2) Damerion is mafia and his partner is not holyflare or oats.
I say this because holyflare and oats would absolutely fight to protect their partner.
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
This means 1 of 2 things: 1) Damerionia not mafia. 2) Damerion is mafia and his partner is not holyflare or oats. I say this because holyflare and oats would absolutely fight to protect their partner. | ||
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ruXxar
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ruXxar
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If damerion is mafia, were going to have an easy game on our hands as the potential scum pool will be very small. If damerion is town, then I’m afraid we’ll have a hard game on our hands. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
I don’t like seeing people go down without a fight:/ | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16627 Posts
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ruXxar
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On October 21 2017 03:42 Oatsmaster wrote: It looks like you are looking for any reason at all to get off damerion rux Get off? Objectively I don’t mind if he dies, but I get very emotional when people go down without fighting. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
I think you need another float. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
How are you supposed to have an informed decision on someone who doesn’t interact with the thread. I feel like we’re just shooting blindly right now. I don’t think I’ve ever been so uncertain about lynching people as I have been this game. If you asked me who I want to remove from the game I’d say onegu, xenon and damerion, regardless of if they are scum or town. I don’t think it’s ever possible to discern their real alignment from the info they’re giving us and if feels pretty shitty to lynch people just because they’re not doing shit. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On October 21 2017 03:56 Grackaroni wrote: I can really feel the emotion. I think you need another float. Eat my shorts. | ||
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Damerion
149 Posts
On October 21 2017 03:37 ruXxar wrote: My gut tells me that damerion is town, but he’s the highest information flip regardless and hasn’t been playing particularly well this game. If damerion is mafia, were going to have an easy game on our hands as the potential scum pool will be very small. If damerion is town, then I’m afraid we’ll have a hard game on our hands. This is not good reasoning at all and almost gives me scum vibes from you RuxXar. If your gut feeling is that you think I will flip town, than what is the point of flipping me at all? In your mind/gut you already have the informatiom and should be able to read the end of day one with that already in mind. That aside RuxXar posting lately has been interesting, seems to be trying to justify where his vote is and where his vote might be going next (Xennon). I probably do not have time before lynch to make an accurate call on that. As for day one I sincerely believe that there was more than likely two scum on my wagon and one off distancing or trying Shenanigans. Well that is just from memory, I will spend the remainder of the day trying to get a last will in order because I will not escape the noose this day. Before I start my read my list looks something lime this, Onegu, Grackaroni, Oatsmaster (Oats is never scum with Grackaroni or vice versa), RuxXar, Holyflare, Xennon, HappyKrogan, Damdred. Will update as I finish filters | ||
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Grackaroni
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On October 21 2017 04:09 Grackaroni wrote: What happened to you killing me?? You dont answer questions that people are asking of you, so I lost my motivation to push you. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On October 21 2017 03:32 ruXxar wrote: There is no pushback against a damerion lynch. This means 1 of 2 things: 1) Damerionia not mafia. 2) Damerion is mafia and his partner is not holyflare or oats. I say this because holyflare and oats would absolutely fight to protect their partner. so it's not just that his partner could easily be one of the 5 afk voters that didn't give a shit about the game? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
Damerion (3): Oatsmaster, Holyflare, happykrogan Grackaroni (1): ruXxar Holyflare (1): xenonn40 Damdred (0): Not Voting (4): Damerion, Grackaroni, Onegu, Damdred As of now, Damerion is getting lynched! Day 3 ends Friday, Oct 20 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in . Voting is mandatory. Only votes made in the voting thread are valid. TL countdown synchronizes with your device local time and not with the TL server time. It might be inaccurate. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On October 21 2017 04:06 Damerion wrote: This is not good reasoning at all and almost gives me scum vibes from you RuxXar. If your gut feeling is that you think I will flip town, than what is the point of flipping me at all? In your mind/gut you already have the informatiom and should be able to read the end of day one with that already in mind. That aside RuxXar posting lately has been interesting, seems to be trying to justify where his vote is and where his vote might be going next (Xennon). I probably do not have time before lynch to make an accurate call on that. As for day one I sincerely believe that there was more than likely two scum on my wagon and one off distancing or trying Shenanigans. Well that is just from memory, I will spend the remainder of the day trying to get a last will in order because I will not escape the noose this day. Before I start my read my list looks something lime this, Onegu, Grackaroni, Oatsmaster (Oats is never scum with Grackaroni or vice versa), RuxXar, Holyflare, Xennon, HappyKrogan, Damdred. Will update as I finish filters 1) The point of flipping you is that it's going to tell us if the people on your day 1 wagon were more likely town or mafia. 2) I have no preference whether we lynch you, xenon, onegu or grack. At this point the game has gone so stale I don't care and you're all equally good lynches. 3) You say that there is more than likely two scum on your wagon, but not once have you mentioned holyflare potentially being scum, nor have you ever mentioned oatsmaster being scum due to him voting for you. That doesn't add up at all. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On October 21 2017 04:23 Holyflare wrote: so it's not just that his partner could easily be one of the 5 afk voters that didn't give a shit about the game? That is what #2 means. | ||
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Damerion
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Also the narrative that it was scum v scum is just something people have been able to hide behind without doing much work. For example look how Holyflare approached me during the night one, being sure I was scum and then back tracking on it signficantly to push FecalFeast during the day two process. The same can be said of Oatsmaster who has yelled and abused people in the thread for not pushing lynches. Yet when there is little interest with time still to go he very easily flows onto town wagons this game. So no I think your first point is a cop out a d just gives mafia grounds to stand on. If there is mafia between Oatsmaster and HolyFlare I believe it to be Oatsmaster. Also your point two is a cop out, Onegu will be dealt with by the mods I hope at least. I have given my thoughts this game even if my ability to be here has been spastic. Point three is decent, but could be I just have not fleshed anything out. All in all the three points for lynching me you provided (or your approach) is how town loses games. I am to vlame for my lynch, should not of signed up for a game before I got my schedule. But I am almost done with my will in any case. | ||
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Grackaroni
United States9832 Posts
On October 14 2017 03:07 ruXxar wrote: Let me entertain you with some reads. Xenon + Show Spoiler + This is a strong opening statement from a newbie. Expecting more timidness from a first timer scum. Damerion + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2017 06:38 Damerion wrote: Hello good people of TLMafia, it is pleasurable that we meet again. Firstly I am going to approach this game slightly different than I did last game, I will do much more town hunting and see if I can POE a scum team into oblivion instead of finding a few slips early and pounding the ever living hell out of the person into submission. Secondly as the setup is much different than last game, we should do our best not to talk about roles or claim them unless in supreme danger, especially the newer players should be aware of this. And that is the last thing I will say about roles. My first to early townread is on FecalFeast, general tone and playful approach to the game points to a more than likely chance of being town at this point in time. If you look at his previous games his posts were a bit more guarded and just generally lacked the playful approach he has shown at this point. The second thing is HappyKrogan postings are interesting, (I know I am already sliding backwards) in comparison to other people who have posted the posts feel forced and have this sense of wanting to fit in. It also draws my eyebrow upwards how he keeps referring to himself as just normal VT. My first game as scum I had an almost identical entrance post because I just did not know how to interact with the people in the game. I think he is worth watching especially as his reads develop or fail to achieve. I also did not dislike RuxXar opening salvo of posts even if it is not super indicative at this moment in time, he was playful and did not seem angry at others having fun. So I have a good feeling about him at present. Strong and clear reads. Consistent meta from last game. On October 13 2017 06:47 Damerion wrote: I agree it is not quite mafia indicative as of yet, however it is worth watching how he develops as the game goes on. If he continues to be so forced it will be worth connecting, if he does not well it was just a newer person being a bit difficult. And I really wish that Damdred would post more than just a random list, I miss the days when I would look forward to reading his posts and mighty cases. Now he is just a sheep I must shepherd across the finish line who sometimes pouts and hides his head nobody listens to him. Earnest and genuine request. Has a carefree and playful touch to it. Oatsmaster + Show Spoiler + Is being his typical hard headed self. Straight to the point. No sugar coating, even abrasive to some. Is lacking in reading comprehension,but puts himself way out there. Unlikely to come from mafia. MyLonelyLock + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2017 10:38 MrLonelyClock wrote: First half is garbage. Let people play how they want. Its early in the game so the reads I would say are kinda forced but that can be expected. However having 3 reads this early just seems like you want to throw out the "HEY IM POSTING A LOT, LOOK AT THIS TOWNIE". Also your posts kinda annoy me. It's as if I'm reading a novel and not actually having a conversation. Feels like talking (or typing) to a wall of sorts. Strong accusations straight out of the gate. Honest and genuine tone. Does not filter or sugar coat his opinion. Can clearly see through to the intentions behind his post with no apparent malicious agenda. Not expected from newbie mafia. Conversion + Show Spoiler + Speaks his mind freely. Conversation flows naturally. Not guarded in speech and not afraid to step on peoples toes Happykrogan + Show Spoiler + Was initially green. Moved down after this post. On October 14 2017 00:06 happykrogan wrote: Because of Holyflare's posts my lean is now a read BTW Was having a lean on me, but afraid to commit without the backing/validation of another player Holyflare Grackaroni Fecalfeast Onegu Damdred coolTLname darthfoley On October 15 2017 02:26 ruXxar wrote: Lynching damerion is the absolutely dumbest thing we can do right now. On October 15 2017 03:39 ruXxar wrote: After re-reading damerions posts, I don't feel a strong need to defend him anymore. His response to getting asked for scum reads is losing him a lot of town points. If anyone bussed this game I guarantee that it was Ruxxar who wrote out a post to say that he has changed his read on Conversion after FF/DF/Mr. Lonelyclock pushed him and that he is open to considering lynching him. The bus was never going to be Damdred, who town read both Damerion/Conversion, didn't make any effort to shennany, and then voted off Conversion without any setup for his vote. To me this looks like a bus post. On October 15 2017 02:40 ruXxar wrote: I agree with this sentiment. Darthfoley is either clearly town or/and more experienced than conversion. Darth foley came out of that interaction looking way better than conversion. I felt conversion was squirming around clamoring to any defense he could muster up. I think you need to calm down conversion and refocus your effort. I feel like right now your reads are all over the place and you're having trouble staying above water. Take a short breather and clear your mind. I was on the edge of changing my vote to conversion seeing as how that went down, but I'm holding back a bit after you bounced back a bit with the list post. -- The secondary red flag is xenon. His post explaining his vote was terrible. I'm awaiting his explanation before pursuing further action. Also in that post he makes an attempt to push Xennon, who he was also town reading earlier, but he doesn't defend the scum read when HF questions him on it. On October 15 2017 02:45 ruXxar wrote: Yes he's lynchbait, but lets give him a chance to explain his vote shall we? And he questions FF about an Oats lynch when he completely shut down my Oats tone push earlier in the day, On October 15 2017 02:55 ruXxar wrote: Can you expound on this? I want to know what you're refering to. Plus from Conversion's filter Ruxxar seems like the most likely partner to me. So that's my vote. | ||
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ruXxar
Norway5668 Posts
On October 21 2017 05:10 Damerion wrote: Point one is insa e to the extreme. My flip might reveal information to the thread, but a personal interpretation is just as good as a flip at this point. Also the narrative that it was scum v scum is just something people have been able to hide behind without doing much work. For example look how Holyflare approached me during the night one, being sure I was scum and then back tracking on it signficantly to push FecalFeast during the day two process. The same can be said of Oatsmaster who has yelled and abused people in the thread for not pushing lynches. Yet when there is little interest with time still to go he very easily flows onto town wagons this game. So no I think your first point is a cop out a d just gives mafia grounds to stand on. If there is mafia between Oatsmaster and HolyFlare I believe it to be Oatsmaster. Also your point two is a cop out, Onegu will be dealt with by the mods I hope at least. I have given my thoughts this game even if my ability to be here has been spastic. Point three is decent, but could be I just have not fleshed anything out. All in all the three points for lynching me you provided (or your approach) is how town loses games. I am to vlame for my lynch, should not of signed up for a game before I got my schedule. But I am almost done with my will in any case. 1) My personal interpretation is that you're all looking equally bad. 2) You didn't make it any easier on yourself by voting for oats and failing to adequately explain why. 3) Everyone went onto the FF wagon, why do you particularly point out those two, and why now when there's just half an hour to your lynch and the chances of changing the vote is close to 0%. 4) You have given thoughts on like two people, grack and oatsmaster. You are way to tunnelvisioned and not giving reads where you are evaluating the whole game. It's very hard to trust anything of what you're saying when theres no coherence to to the rest of the people in the game, nor any engagement in a naturally flowing conversation. 5) You've had an abudance of time to to figure out day 1 votes. I haven't heard a single theory from you regarding holyflare and oats votes. The "Not enough time" excuse is bullshit. | ||
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