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On July 17 2017 20:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels?
Another misrepresenting question I wont answer.
But I'll ask you this, why did you vote me over for example Ruxxar or Rels?
On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:
- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town
On July 16 2017 06:06 emperorchampion wrote:
lol rels is red for reals?
On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar 
The moment Rels had a redcheck on him you vote me. While now that the red check is gone you want to vote with me on Rels?
This brings the questions:
Where do you townread me during my last 6-7 pages of filter?
Why do you not want to vote with me on TW?
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EC's comments:
# of Skynx
Positive
Neutral (#720, #907)
Negative: (#582, #910, #1028, #1215)
# of VA
Positive
Neutral (#582, #1215, #1246)
Negative (#720, #907, #1020)
Like you talk about Skynx way fucking more than you talk about VA. The most you ever really say about VA is you didn't mind his opener. Everything else is basically, "He hasn't done anything I can defend" which is an easy cop out answer.
My question is if you accepted Damdred and Myself as town, and we're both pushing a lynch on someone you talk reasonably negatively about (moreso than your current lynch vote). Why not join the chain of justice?
If you were waiting for Damdred to confirm our loving masonic relationship, why? Either I'm 100% scum trying to get a partner to back my claim (who 100% will) or I'm 100% town and my partner will back my claim (who 100% will)? In what world does the person I claim to be masoned with end up not backing my claim? Literally no one in the thread questioned that I was in a QT with Damdred, but many questioned whether it was Scum QT.
Skynx was legit throwing his vote away on a train that had 0 chance of ever happening (which is like super bad [shame shame Tina]), he's on your list of people to look at and "have meant to look at" repeatedly. Yet you don't end up filtering him. You don't end up trying to pool with confirmed town votes. You don't say to yourself, "Hey, I'm pretty iffy on both these guys; but I know that at least the push on Skynx is 100% led by an honest opinion I can trust." You don't do a lot of things that make basic fucking mafia sense.
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Especially because your latest post on TW seem to indicate you suspect him.
+ Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 19:30 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 19:19 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 16:55 emperorchampion wrote:
@ ruxxar: do you remember if you had a town lock on tumble first, or him with you? Please explain why that is important to you. I think that one of the reads could be a buddying attempt since there's an ok chance one of you are scum. Tumbles read seems a bit more suspicious at the moment given his most recent reply. To me seems possible that tumble gives you town lock as scum to help build allies with players that are in weaker situations. On July 16 2017 19:40 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 19:32 ruXxar wrote:On July 16 2017 12:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also Skynx is not mafia.
Noone will never ever come into the game as mafia making a case on someone and at the same time being completely aware they haven't even read the half of what the said dude said. Never. wow, it's not often that a point is good enough that i actually listen to it. it's not infallible but it's a real good thing to consider and i think skynx is town Why do you make this post now? It's out of context. How so out of context? I respect rayns read, part of what makes me think that skynx could just be lazy so far. I don't think it's as alignment indicative as rayn tho. Tumbles response is kinda weird. Does tumble have other things supporting skynx town? I don't remember fully, just the part where he said that skynx wasn't an ideal off wagon. Not sure if this point alone is enough to justify a town read but depends on his previous stance to me. On July 16 2017 19:47 emperorchampion wrote:
His last response was really meh, like how can you town lock but not point out a single concrete reason why? Like if you're too lazy to filter the guy, then just say feels or that you're too lazy. So pretty interested in his further response on that.
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For the record HF, I can't sleep I'm looking at your shit now.
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geript, who are you (and damdred) lynching if EC is not happening?
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PS: the correct answer is TW.
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I'm here now, short vacation yesterday.
Need to catch up but really dislike ec posts atm.
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I'm at P34 with a rayn and geript town lean. Nullish on Ruxxar and Damdred. Scummy on Koshi and emc. The Skynx entry post on rayn seemed a blown out version of "why aren't you talking about x", but I'm not sure that it makes him mafia.
HF looks bored all around but ends up p. much at the same reads. I never saw him explaining what emc slipped exactly, or missed it idk. Null for now.
I don't think I have time to do a proper read until Dline since I'm going out now and will be back evening-ish, so I'm just going to sheep rayn, maybe HF if he doesn't post something that advises me not to.
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Funny story time:
Been sitting 20 hours on this TW wagon with an excellent case + meta and nobody is voting him. While there is nobody that townreads TW.
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On July 17 2017 22:16 Vivax wrote:
I'm at P34 with a rayn and geript town lean. Nullish on Ruxxar and Damdred. Scummy on Koshi and emc. The Skynx entry post on rayn seemed a blown out version of "why aren't you talking about x", but I'm not sure that it makes him mafia.
HF looks bored all around but ends up p. much at the same reads. I never saw him explaining what emc slipped exactly, or missed it idk. Null for now.
I don't think I have time to do a proper read until Dline since I'm going out now and will be back evening-ish, so I'm just going to sheep rayn, maybe HF if he doesn't post something that advises me not to.
For when you are caught up↓
On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote:
HF is just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow on TW. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win (probably Ruxxar) riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.
It's a good plan. Kuddos.
Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5.
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Well it's not going to happen quickly I have to head out now and will be devoted to catching up further when I'm back.
You were scumreading my slot D1 btw did something change? You just talked to me about HF as if you knew I'm town.
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Maybe stop being bad and post a case on tw that's founded on this game. Nobody is gonna listen to meta you're not even sure on. Didn't work out for you on va so why now?
Cases based on in game logic best sheepable cases.
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And koshi's plan is bad cos obviously you no lynch on a cycle where it's 4v2
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Hey VIvax, Damdred and I are masons. Rayn lynched VA (town) and got shot. HF fake claimed a redcheck on Rels early D2 and rescinded after about ~20 hours.
If you could focus on a few people for me it'd be cool. Specifically: Koshi, Skynx , TW, and EC.
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I'd rather he read the thread first though for context.
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On July 13 2017 17:04 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 17:00 rsoultin wrote:On July 13 2017 16:56 Koshi wrote:
There is a chance I don't understand woman. Or they are all mafia.
##vote rsoultin lol like y'all are ever gonna lynch me this game. darth punk isn't here There is a chance I don't understand women. Or that they are all mafia. It is funnier with better english.
Already not a fan because I love baiting town to get them into dumb shitty arguments with each other as scum.
On July 13 2017 19:23 Koshi wrote:
Damdred tried to explain why geript is town and gave that read to the thread. =good stuff. Trying to convince somebody is town with reasoning that another person can understand is a townie treat. Him being extremely confident about it is also more likely town over mafia because mafia is afraid of showing TMI.
Damdred is town.
FWIW, I know you and Rayn hated Damdred's read, but I thought it was actually pretty on point and didn't mind this. That said, I think Damdred was pretty obviously town too so no real townie points for this.
On July 13 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 23:24 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi doesn't even have real reads. Must be mafia cos he sucks right now. wow I even pressed reply before I realized. My last post will be to point out rsoultin hasn't done anything yet and her read on Damdred is bullshit. She takes Damdred his worst read and calls him town for it...
The post he's referring to is here. In going back it's a pretty slick read on Damdred's part IMO. One that makes me want to lynch Ruxxar even less. This is the type of sly read that in my experience good players usually pick up on from other players and incorporate. It's actually really solid and not one I'd expect Koshi to downgrade.
On July 14 2017 22:36 Koshi wrote:
Why is rsoultin not mafia? Only read the votes and not the thread yet. Currently busy but hoping I can read it after work as I should be home earlier today. Depends on how long this takes but we are almost done. I read the thread this morning and she just dropped a bad listpost filled with emo blackmail. Not a single strong read based with evidence and a lol read on va.
So bad.
Damdred liked Tina's list post. I wasn't as fond of it. So I won't detract marks from Koshi for that. That said...
On July 14 2017 05:10 rsoultin wrote:
koshi. <- this dude has done nada all day but call me scum for bullshit. like, 'baseless' reads? there may not be a ton behind them but tone, but that's how it always is with me day 1 lol >< and he has no excuse not to know this. no way that's his only read as town. even when he's trying to keep his filter down (which he's done before, btw) he can't seem to help himself, like a fire burning in his belly
I will detract for this. Because it's damn on point of Koshi's filter.
On July 14 2017 22:53 Koshi wrote:
My meta read on VA is not the same as rayns btw. For me VA is mafia when he builds up cred and then uses that build up cred to push mafia agenda.
rayn scumreads VA already while he is building up the cred.
Which imo is way inferior.
Problem this game is that VA went for the "I entered with scummeta on purpose" defense which is bullshit as VA doesnt play anti town on purpose. He might not care to boost his own activity to get read easily. But never anti town on purpose. And as I said. Rayn was looking decent enough town already back then so va entering to trick rayn makes no sense. But if he did he should have defended against rayns attack with "good you are town" and not "lol mafia meta on purpose"
So VA is pretty much lock scum.
But why is rsoultin town?
This is the second time he's said it's VA's scum meta saying that VA doesn't play anti-town as town; which is complete bullshit. If VA doesn't gives fucks, he does whatever the fuck he wants as any alignment. Kinda like PalmEr. That said, this is basically how I tend to describe meta when I'm scum. I use pretty broad generalities. Even worse, VA has built up 0 town cred to push scum agenda; so I don't see how he even fits this game.
On July 17 2017 01:35 Koshi wrote:
Page 75. Don't think Ruxx is mafia.
Don't think EC is mafia.
Don't think HF is mafia.
Don't think rsoultin is mafia now lol.
Don't know about SL
Really don't think mafia geript and Damdred just go claim masons. Dumbest thing ever... So there is max 1 mafia and 1 retard.
Brings me to TW/Skynx and Rels.
I think that is all. 17 more pages.
On July 17 2017 01:40 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. Going to reread Skynx first. I like where he is here.
I think this was one of the points HF brought up. For liking where Skynx is, they only share 1 scumread. If you count nulls I guess you get to add in sharing SL and Rels reads, but being so vastly different on TW and EC is a quite odd.
On July 17 2017 01:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 05:27 sicklucker wrote:
Whats that have to do with anything. your denying you forgot your read? No ones lock town in this game Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 05:28 sicklucker wrote:
It just weird you call me town. I dont post then you call me maybe scum. I mean its not like your saying im for sure mafia but it seems like you forgot your read Damn a legit sl read. Sick stuff. Going have to reread EC as well.
I don't see how this is a slick read. Sure EC seems to have forgotten his read. But I've also found that over time if it isn't a really sticky read, it's easy to forget where you had someone on the nullish side of town. Granted I'm presuming they're referring to thiswhich seems a bit more than town-null.
On July 17 2017 01:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:
- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town "I don't know what to write behind Koshi his name to call him mafia so I am going to call Ruxx both lock town and mafia in 1 sentence.
But this is just plain lazy.
On July 17 2017 02:20 Koshi wrote:This is a bad post because he doesn't scumread Skynx. See↓ + Show Spoiler +On July 14 2017 04:16 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 03:48 geript wrote:On July 14 2017 03:32 Tumblewood wrote:ok i'm back and i caught up to page 25 before skimming this last page. um new stuff: if rsoul is scum i doubt she thinks that posting squiggly nothings is not a good way to get town cred, so imma go with town skynx and damdred have ummmmm good tone rayn is getting into stupid arguments that i think he knows no one can win. i wanna say he's scum but first lemme make sure i didn't make this same read in that other game where i called him scum d1 and i was wrong also: On July 13 2017 21:28 Holyflare wrote:
This game is making me glaze over from the boring generic arguments you guys are having. this could be my new sig How does skynx have good tone? cause i read his posts and was like "this guy sounds pretty townie" Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 01:59 Tumblewood wrote:
lmao i just read va's ---sick play--- and it is so ridiculous he has to be town. plus on that reveal he just seems so excited ↑More likely mafia!TW making up a story then town!TW actually believing that. Easy vote. Random question "looking dumb.". If anybody is interested. I think in Ver his guide it stands that if you open with this post you are more likely mafia. Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 12:50 Tumblewood wrote:
##vote rels yada yada
a question: are masons ever opposite alignment? cause it seems like they wouldn't necessarily have to be both town or both mafia One mafia down. ##Vote TWGoing to read Skynx next but he is more likely town now.
This is a slanting things pretty heavily. TW seems to have made a big hoopla over VA's sick play (which IMO was neither sick nor a play) and called him town for it. It's not unreasonable to vote for someone who you think is less towny than the other guy. That said, minus points to TW too for calling VA town.
On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.
Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.
I think this is one of the crucial points of HF's argument.
I'm going to stop commenting now because my brain is fried and my eyes are twitching after being up 22 hours. The best thing I can say is that he's super fucking lazy. I'm going to try and catch a couple hours sleep before the lynch.
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Damdred, leave me some notes if you would. I'll do my best to be up to sheep you in the least.
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I'm going out now, not gona be around EoD.
Lynching any of Koshi/TW/Rux is fine, im staying on rux just in case you guys wanna switch later on.
If anyone gets lynched i will be very upset tomorrow. Happy hunting.
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