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On July 17 2017 22:25 Vivax wrote:
Well it's not going to happen quickly I have to head out now and will be devoted to catching up further when I'm back.
You were scumreading my slot D1 btw did something change? You just talked to me about HF as if you knew I'm town.
Yes. rsoultin ragequit. You are basically the third 99% certain innocent child this game.
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On July 17 2017 22:59 Holyflare wrote:
Did your mason chat break?
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On July 17 2017 17:38 Skynx wrote:
Can we go on with the confirmed mafia in Ruxxar please?
What makes me confirmed mafia?
On July 17 2017 07:02 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:46 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 06:36 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 06:24 Skynx wrote:
Do we have any reason to lynch Koshi over Ruxxar? Let's lynch TW. Park the bus. On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Ruxxar I don't understand. Which teammate would you like to bus first?
In what universe am I scum with koshi?
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On July 17 2017 21:22 geript wrote:
EC's comments:
# of Skynx
Positive
Neutral (#720, #907)
Negative: (#582, #910, #1028, #1215)
# of VA
Positive
Neutral (#582, #1215, #1246)
Negative (#720, #907, #1020)
Like you talk about Skynx way fucking more than you talk about VA. The most you ever really say about VA is you didn't mind his opener. Everything else is basically, "He hasn't done anything I can defend" which is an easy cop out answer.
My question is if you accepted Damdred and Myself as town, and we're both pushing a lynch on someone you talk reasonably negatively about (moreso than your current lynch vote). Why not join the chain of justice?
If you were waiting for Damdred to confirm our loving masonic relationship, why? Either I'm 100% scum trying to get a partner to back my claim (who 100% will) or I'm 100% town and my partner will back my claim (who 100% will)? In what world does the person I claim to be masoned with end up not backing my claim? Literally no one in the thread questioned that I was in a QT with Damdred, but many questioned whether it was Scum QT.
Skynx was legit throwing his vote away on a train that had 0 chance of ever happening (which is like super bad [shame shame Tina]), he's on your list of people to look at and "have meant to look at" repeatedly. Yet you don't end up filtering him. You don't end up trying to pool with confirmed town votes. You don't say to yourself, "Hey, I'm pretty iffy on both these guys; but I know that at least the push on Skynx is 100% led by an honest opinion I can trust." You don't do a lot of things that make basic fucking mafia sense.
This probably won't answer all your points 1 by 1 , but the reason I don't move off of va for skynx even though you ask me to is that I respect my own reasons a lot more than I respect yours. This doesn't have to do with this point, but just to let you know where I'm at, none of your actions since then have given me any reason to trust you over me.
I thought that va had a better chance on flipping than skynx, that's it. You can choose to believe me, or continue to tunnel on this the whole game. I'm not going to comment on this va skynx thing any further. The only reason I do so here I out of respect for you as town.
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On July 17 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 20:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels? Another misrepresenting question I wont answer. But I'll ask you this, why did you vote me over for example Ruxxar or Rels? Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:
- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar  The moment Rels had a redcheck on him you vote me. While now that the red check is gone you want to vote with me on Rels? This brings the questions: Where do you townread me during my last 6-7 pages of filter? Why do you not want to vote with me on TW?
I need to stop being lazy and really look between you and rels. So if you're willing to help I'll take it.
Right now I am pretty 50/50 between you and rels. Ruxxar is a bit behind that, and tumble out in fourth. Probably because you were both so behind on the game before you started playing, but at a cursory glance i didn't see any thing particularly new or interesting from either of you.
I'll put in some time now to try and sort things out
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I would like to invite everybody to read TW his game in his last town game:
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/522886-newbie-student-mafia-xxvi?user=Tumblewood&page=6
Pay attention to:
- How he multiple times switches scumreads and update people their alignment (here he has the same scumreads since the start)
- That his thought process is always visible in the thread. Multiple updates on where he stands. (This game it is not visible at all. He just made another list because I pressured him to do so)
- He gets excited about reads/events and makes a flurry of posts. (not like here where he forgets the deadline and makes 1 post. And is way more conservative about posting in general)
- How he pushes his reads and wants his reads to be accepted. (read the post in which he is disappointed he needs to work so hard to get his reads through)
Then his latest scumgame:
http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/mafia/523282-tl-mafia-lxxv?user=Tumblewood&page=2
Which closer to what he is doing here. Take a couple pages from both filters and see what you feel is more similar to this game. Look at the random questions and how he does not make a flurry of 5-6 posts that have clear direction in them. How you can't follow his thought process in the thread.
And those games are his previous game and 2 games ago.
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On July 17 2017 21:01 emperorchampion wrote:Forgot I had this open in another tab: Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 17:08 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:29 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:25 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Do you have anything to show from before deadline?
Or are those posts before deadline? All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline. They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps... Sure. On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:
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Why rels?
Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity. So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans? Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this. On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.
Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Night 1 VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.
Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier Why does that change things? cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves. I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum? On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:
Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town
sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game
Rels
Skynx
Koshi
Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3
On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.
Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul. Shit you're right, it even comes after this: On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Ah dammit EC is town. on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend". I mean what would scum gain for that if they knew wagons were tvt? Coming back to question emp asked me, why would he not switch over me? Cuz he wasn't really scumreading me either but scumreading VA really doesn't take much effort. I think he thought VA was gonna be lynched regardless and he was preparing the next day, robotically. He don't think he would resist switching to you if the town leaders told him to. My favourite post of this game so far So melodramatic hahaha
Mm getting back into it. This post is the perfect combination of annoying, scummy and funny. Annoying and scummy because he implies I'm scum for something that I might have potentially done if a town lead maybe potentially told me to do something.
Bad read rels, but funny post.
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On July 18 2017 01:09 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 20:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels? Another misrepresenting question I wont answer. But I'll ask you this, why did you vote me over for example Ruxxar or Rels? On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:
- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town On July 16 2017 06:06 emperorchampion wrote:
lol rels is red for reals? On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar The moment Rels had a redcheck on him you vote me. While now that the red check is gone you want to vote with me on Rels? This brings the questions: Where do you townread me during my last 6-7 pages of filter? Why do you not want to vote with me on TW? I need to stop being lazy and really look between you and rels. So if you're willing to help I'll take it. Right now I am pretty 50/50 between you and rels. Ruxxar is a bit behind that, and tumble out in fourth. Probably because you were both so behind on the game before you started playing, but at a cursory glance i didn't see any thing particularly new or interesting from either of you. I'll put in some time now to try and sort things out
So basically you have completely nothing on everybody?
Please explain why TW is only 4th on your list. What is townie about his play?
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Well I got to go home. And I have an appointment from 19h30 till 21h30. So I'll be home around 22h. So yeah... Which makes I won't be around much anymore. At least 1 hour before the lynch. You can count on that. But now it will be pretty low because I need to eat and leave. I am running pretty late already but wanted to really do this TW meta case before going home.
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i figure at this point ec and koshi are scum for reasons already well-documented and the last one is probably sl, or i'm getting blindsided by rels or hf
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It is extremely fucked up TW hasn't got a single vote though. Like... I haven't seen that ever. So many people scumread him but I can't get a single vote on him.
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On July 18 2017 01:27 Tumblewood wrote:
i figure at this point ec and koshi are scum for reasons already well-documented and the last one is probably sl, or i'm getting blindsided by rels or hf
Your turn to get votes on me. I got this feeling you will be more successful.
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On July 18 2017 01:28 Koshi wrote:
It is extremely fucked up TW hasn't got a single vote though. Like... I haven't seen that ever. So many people scumread him but I can't get a single vote on him.
strange for a guy like you with no town cred and a bullshit case
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Kochi and tw give me your opinions on
Rels
Rux
And ec
Just humor me. Maybe two sentences
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Nobody cares about a meta case even if he's obviously mafia, that's all there is.
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On July 18 2017 01:30 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 01:28 Koshi wrote:
It is extremely fucked up TW hasn't got a single vote though. Like... I haven't seen that ever. So many people scumread him but I can't get a single vote on him. strange for a guy like you with no town cred and a bullshit case
Why is his case bull shit though?
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Why didn't you look into rels, koshi?
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On July 18 2017 01:34 Damdred wrote:
Kochi and tw give me your opinions on
Rels
Rux
And ec
Just humor me. Maybe two sentences
i thought rels was scum for his reaction to the fakeclaim, but he brought up some very insightful points on ec so i think he's town
ruxxar is top town. somewhere on pg 1 of my filter i have a case where i got my early townread on him, and since then he has continued to be very focused on solving the game.
ec is blah except for his inconsistency in who he cases/who he votes. now that i think about it this relies on skynx being scum to make sense though. if skynx is scum ec is 90% scum, but we don't know so more like 60%
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On July 18 2017 01:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2017 01:30 Tumblewood wrote:On July 18 2017 01:28 Koshi wrote:
It is extremely fucked up TW hasn't got a single vote though. Like... I haven't seen that ever. So many people scumread him but I can't get a single vote on him. strange for a guy like you with no town cred and a bullshit case Why is his case bull shit though?
based off of generalized meta that he just made up, which even has inconsistencies with itself.
his case on rsoul was the same thing. made a bad case on her and then spent all day asking people why she was town
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On July 17 2017 19:21 Holyflare wrote:
Rels what is your scum list?
emperor
TW
Then I dont really know for the third. SL would be the one I lynch if I had to chose right now.
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