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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 17 2017 17:14 GMT
#2181
On July 17 2017 20:46 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote:
Yesterday Koshi believed there was mafia within rels/sl/tw/ec. He was 100% sure TW was mafia and pretty happy about that. The situation seemed to evolve into a breakdown of the Rels wagon into a TW vs Koshi showdown in which mafia was going to vote Koshi. Now Koshi didn't like that people went to random ass wagons like EC and Ruxxar because that was not going to be productive. But he might have been too fast on that.

Now Skynx voting Rux was just weird because he just said TW/Koshi was a bus. Annoying but what else can I do except point it out twice...
Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. So if the mafia team is Rels/EC/TW what Koshi believes that is a smart play. However, Koshi, smart as he is, did not call Rels flat out mafia because he voted mafia because Koshi is not a retard and accepts votes on mafia. Koshi did however point out it could be a smart mafia play, because it could be a smart mafia play.


Meh I don't really want to lynch tumble right now, but I'm ears on rels.

lol. I don't even know why you scumread me. And you're quoting a post where Koshi says I could be YOUR partner ...
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
July 17 2017 17:16 GMT
#2182
might have to take back the self-inconsistency part, but this is the bs meta i'm talking about:
On July 17 2017 02:40 Koshi wrote:
And TW is not the person who makes those kinda reads. Not 100% on that but I think I am right.


Mafia prefers to work with absolutes. So VA being lock town for being excited is way more likely coming from a mafia than a town.

just going through my last database games as town:
cop you idiot - town tunnel on nu
haunted mansion 3 - 100% town on nu, calix, grack
rogue 1 hype - 100% town on daneler. also in this game scum!koshi tunneled me all game based on a bad case. that might remind you of another game in which that happened
good times for all
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 17 2017 17:16 GMT
#2183
On July 17 2017 21:01 emperorchampion wrote:
Forgot I had this open in another tab:

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 17:08 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:29 Skynx wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:25 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
Do you have anything to show from before deadline?
Or are those posts before deadline?

All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time

No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline.

They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps...

Sure.
On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:
[quote]

Why rels?


Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity.


So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans?


Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this.


On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.

Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript

On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Night 1

[image loading]


VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.


Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).

On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

Why does that change things?

cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx


I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves.

I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon

On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum?

On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:

Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town

sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game

Rels
Skynx
Koshi


Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3

On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.

Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.

Shit you're right, it even comes after this:
On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Ah dammit


EC is town.

on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend".

I mean what would scum gain for that if they knew wagons were tvt? Coming back to question emp asked me, why would he not switch over me? Cuz he wasn't really scumreading me either but scumreading VA really doesn't take much effort.

I think he thought VA was gonna be lynched regardless and he was preparing the next day, robotically. He don't think he would resist switching to you if the town leaders told him to.


My favourite post of this game so far So melodramatic hahaha

lol
the truth is sometimes beautiful
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 17 2017 17:18 GMT
#2184
Honestly I don't even care who gets lynched out of 90% of the game.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 17:19 GMT
#2185
On July 18 2017 01:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 01:09 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 20:31 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels?

Another misrepresenting question I wont answer.

But I'll ask you this, why did you vote me over for example Ruxxar or Rels?
On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:

- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town


On July 16 2017 06:06 emperorchampion wrote:
lol rels is red for reals?

On July 16 2017 06:16 emperorchampion wrote:
I'm gonna vote koshi, this guy needs to do something. And of course to collect my free town read from ruxxar


The moment Rels had a redcheck on him you vote me. While now that the red check is gone you want to vote with me on Rels?


This brings the questions:
Where do you townread me during my last 6-7 pages of filter?
Why do you not want to vote with me on TW?


I need to stop being lazy and really look between you and rels. So if you're willing to help I'll take it.

Right now I am pretty 50/50 between you and rels. Ruxxar is a bit behind that, and tumble out in fourth. Probably because you were both so behind on the game before you started playing, but at a cursory glance i didn't see any thing particularly new or interesting from either of you.

I'll put in some time now to try and sort things out

So basically you have completely nothing on everybody?
Please explain why TW is only 4th on your list. What is townie about his play?


Nah just been stagnant lately since not much time to play. Tumble is partially bias from last night phase since he looked the best going in. Out of you four I think he's most likely to flip town. I read his filter and the tone is pretty towny. Never really felt he got overly defensive over anything.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 17 2017 17:19 GMT
#2186
Damdred give me a paraphrased summary of your qt with geript please.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
July 17 2017 17:21 GMT
#2187
On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote:
Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it


Explain this please
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 17:29 GMT
#2188
On July 18 2017 02:21 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote:
Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it


Explain this please


Wow I'm amazed actually it took so long for someone to bring this up.

I'm on mobile so it's a bitch to bring up, this happens somewhere around page 2-3 of your filter. Basically the posts where you point out rsouls interpretation of some post I had made calling out damdy for defending someone based on one post. I made this at like 6am and confused geript with rsoul in my head. Hence the follow up post of whoops he actually thinks rsoul is scum. She actually interpreted correctly what I had written on paper, although not what I meant. For you to interpret what I tried to say, and defend me on this basically was something that I could not really see scum doing.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 17:31 GMT
#2189
If your town this is maybe the best read of the game so I'm happy to share, if you're scum well played
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 17 2017 17:42 GMT
#2190
On July 18 2017 02:29 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 02:21 Holyflare wrote:
On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote:
Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it


Explain this please


Wow I'm amazed actually it took so long for someone to bring this up.

I'm on mobile so it's a bitch to bring up, this happens somewhere around page 2-3 of your filter. Basically the posts where you point out rsouls interpretation of some post I had made calling out damdy for defending someone based on one post. I made this at like 6am and confused geript with rsoul in my head. Hence the follow up post of whoops he actually thinks rsoul is scum. She actually interpreted correctly what I had written on paper, although not what I meant. For you to interpret what I tried to say, and defend me on this basically was something that I could not really see scum doing.

don't know if I'm just tunneled or not. But this seems so scummy. Say "I won't say my read" => wait for someone to ask about the read => say the read ... It seems to me like you said the first thing on purpose to create a fake interactions.
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 17 2017 17:43 GMT
#2191
On July 18 2017 02:18 Holyflare wrote:
Honestly I don't even care who gets lynched out of 90% of the game.


Of course mafia doesn't care.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 17 2017 17:44 GMT
#2192
especially since it's not a throwaway read, but in your opinion the best read of the game if it's true
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 17 2017 17:46 GMT
#2193
Like:
On July 18 2017 02:31 emperorchampion wrote:
If your town this is maybe the best read of the game so I'm happy to share, if you're scum well played

On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote:
No you were not:
Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it


Explain this please [/QUOTE]
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 17:47:15
July 17 2017 17:46 GMT
#2194
Cleaned up:

Like:
On July 18 2017 02:31 emperorchampion wrote:
If your town this is maybe the best read of the game so I'm happy to share, if you're scum well played

No you were not:
On July 15 2017 05:12 emperorchampion wrote:
Btw I think hf is town for something not stupid. Won't say but feel pretty good about it

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 17 2017 17:47 GMT
#2195
fuck I edited by mistake instead of reposting. Promise I didn't change the meaning
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 17:51 GMT
#2196
eh I don't regret phrasing it like that, I think part of it was that at the time there were a few "I have a shitty reason to read hf town /scum ". And I actually had a good reason to read him as town.

Maybe this is the phrophisized fake interaction that was promised!
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 17:52 GMT
#2197
Also I think the context of this was like maybe 24 hrs into the game
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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 17 2017 17:55 GMT
#2198
On July 18 2017 02:52 emperorchampion wrote:
Also I think the context of this was like maybe 24 hrs into the game

so ? At the time you had this read you didn't share it with the thread. Now you're saying this read is the greatest and you'r ehappy to share it. The fact that your opinion of your read changed over time actually makes it more likely that's it's fabricated than the opposite
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 18:01 GMT
#2199
Damn you must think my scum game has heavily improved if I can fabricate that read
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 18:04 GMT
#2200
I don't really understand what you're trying to get out of this.
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