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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:31 GMT
#2121
Koshi what makes me scum? Seems like you're on the associative track, so what makes me scum with tw and rels?
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 11:36 GMT
#2122
Ec you should respond to geript posts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 11:37 GMT
#2123
On July 17 2017 18:13 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 17:12 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 14:10 geript wrote:
Who ever mafia is, I'm pretty sure they're all bussing each other right now. It feels like most people are having reasonably close lynch lists.

I actually don't hate Rels post on EC. I went and looked at his recent games (resistance [scum], 72hr and another mini). In all his games he quotes a decent amount. But in his town games, things seem to stick out to him a bit more and he seems a bit more idk paranoid. Like he'll flag posts and shit. Length wise, there doesn't seem to be a major difference between alignments that I noticed (either in post length or volume). Tone wise; he seems a bit more self-assured as mafia. It's not a read I'm wholly confident in, but it actually feels like a good place to bury a vote. His response to the claim was pretty fucking off too. Like everyone seems to take a side on it and he doesn't even seem to notice it. Like it's something irrelevant which (as far as masons go) I think is more consistent with being mafia. The big thing though is that he doesn't really seem to have any "eh that seems sketchy" type posts; there's nothing that catches his eye. Rather there's only things he seems to comment on this game. That's the big carry away for me.

SL seems boring. I don't hate killing him either. I can't find a single post of his that gets me hard. Which in looking at Rels filter; Rels at least as a few that make me stop and think.

Right now I'm going to ignore Skynx; partly because I think I want him to be scum and am not sure I can be reasonably unbiased. Also in part because I think EC is a decent shot for scum and EC didn't hate a Skynx lynch but ended up on the VA wagon. EC always seems to want to throw scum on Skynx, but always seems to find a way to push someone else to the top for relatively weak reasons. Especially + Show Spoiler [This Post] +
On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .

I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.

In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.

@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?

I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.

I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.

For now gonna park my vote on va.
where he finds a way to find him kinda town and kinda scum. It's just hard to evaluate Skynx fairly for me right now; but I still kinda think he scum.

I'll look at Koshi and TW in the morning.

I don't understand the bolded ?

Like when I claimed mason, Rayn lost his shit. EC is there posting on relatively recent shit and just ignoring commenting on it. Posts this:
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On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.

Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript

Like you either think I'm scum and fake claiming or I'm blue. There's literally no in between ground. I'm obviously claiming confirmed Town mason with Damdred and he's obvious explaining sitting on his vote.

When I ping him on it:
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On July 15 2017 05:45 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 05:43 geript wrote:
Really surprised EC hasn't commented on the claim.

About the masons?

He's obviously aware of the claim.
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On July 15 2017 05:50 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok cool, two names to scratch off my list

Then fully accepts it.

Like if you think Damdred and I are good people to look into, then flat out accept the claim it's pretty odd. On top of it, he's had Skynx in his lynch list throughout. If I have 2 confirmed Town pushing a lynch on a guy I find scummy, I'm pretty likely to sheep their vote. It's weird to need much more to push off from one mediocre lynch to another.
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On July 15 2017 05:56 emperorchampion wrote:
im getting a bit of cold feet on va, but I dunno about moving off

It's weird to be getting cold feet about a lynch, be okay with the opposite wagon led by confirmed Town and not jump ship.

It's just a whole mess of unusual all around.

emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:38 GMT
#2124
I didn't vote with the cop claim cause it's a boring waste of the day and I want to play mafia. I've played my own game this entire time so far, and it's worked out perfectly fine. Plus you guys are hella lame with your reads on me with regards to not voting rels. Where did it ever look like I was trying to gain cred for not voting on him if he flips green?
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:39 GMT
#2125
Oh the masons thing, I'm pretty sure I was waiting for damdred to claim as well.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:40 GMT
#2126
Is it really that odd to accept a mason claim? I don't find it too particularly odd. Everyone else accepted it.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:42 GMT
#2127
If you really doubt me, I'm sure that I gave some reasons why it was legit when I forced it onto your town read ruxxar.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:43 GMT
#2128
On July 17 2017 20:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Is it really that odd to accept a mason claim? I don't find it too particularly odd. Everyone else accepted it.


Like this here is empirical evidence that it's not that odd.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:46 GMT
#2129
On July 17 2017 20:11 Koshi wrote:
Yesterday Koshi believed there was mafia within rels/sl/tw/ec. He was 100% sure TW was mafia and pretty happy about that. The situation seemed to evolve into a breakdown of the Rels wagon into a TW vs Koshi showdown in which mafia was going to vote Koshi. Now Koshi didn't like that people went to random ass wagons like EC and Ruxxar because that was not going to be productive. But he might have been too fast on that.

Now Skynx voting Rux was just weird because he just said TW/Koshi was a bus. Annoying but what else can I do except point it out twice...
Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. So if the mafia team is Rels/EC/TW what Koshi believes that is a smart play. However, Koshi, smart as he is, did not call Rels flat out mafia because he voted mafia because Koshi is not a retard and accepts votes on mafia. Koshi did however point out it could be a smart mafia play, because it could be a smart mafia play.


Meh I don't really want to lynch tumble right now, but I'm ears on rels.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 11:53 GMT
#2130
On July 17 2017 20:43 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 20:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Is it really that odd to accept a mason claim? I don't find it too particularly odd. Everyone else accepted it.


Like this here is empirical evidence that it's not that odd.


Nobody really accepted it?
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:53 GMT
#2131
Geript: let's get real, where have I been pushing mafia agenda this game? Just tell me so I can get rid of this bs. I hope everyone can collectively agree to stop with scum reading me for not killing skynx. Who seems to be widely town ready by most people in this game. Boggles my mind honestly. If he flips red, OK I'll accept the blame for not killing him, but for now it's just silly.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 11:55 GMT
#2132
On July 15 2017 05:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred are you masons?


Yes will 100% back his claim

On July 15 2017 05:50 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok cool, two names to scratch off my list


This is the order though so what EC is saying makes sense.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:55 GMT
#2133
On July 17 2017 20:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 20:43 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 17 2017 20:40 emperorchampion wrote:
Is it really that odd to accept a mason claim? I don't find it too particularly odd. Everyone else accepted it.


Like this here is empirical evidence that it's not that odd.


Nobody really accepted it?

Well guess I was the only one then. Good thing I got all that town cred from the mason duo...
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:57 GMT
#2134
If there's nothing else that will convince you, look at how fucking hard I've had to fight to get town reads this game. I've gotten literally zero town cred from every single thing I've done this game.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 11:57 GMT
#2135
On July 16 2017 06:11 Skynx wrote:
Cop and mason can exist at the same time imo, not ready to unclear damdy and geript altho they have been real bad.


Could be tmi tbh
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 11:59 GMT
#2136
On July 17 2017 20:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 06:11 Skynx wrote:
Cop and mason can exist at the same time imo, not ready to unclear damdy and geript altho they have been real bad.


Could be tmi tbh


How though, mafia don't know the setup either.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 12:01 GMT
#2137
Forgot I had this open in another tab:

On July 17 2017 17:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 06:29 Skynx wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:25 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:15 Skynx wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:11 Rels wrote:
On July 17 2017 06:03 Skynx wrote:
On July 17 2017 00:18 Rels wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:43 Skynx wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 16 2017 00:34 Skynx wrote:
[quote]

Please do it today, in case you die.

[quote]
Votes for VA, townreads me.

Rest is just pushing the idea of I could be scum but thats it
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 01:39 Damdred wrote:
Idk this game feels hard to me right now i want to do a lot of things.

Rux s causing me to go crazy thinking he might of tmi va a no in hi he defended him.

Skynx reaction was so over the top with grit and how he approaches the game is just weird to me this game at least.


Tina list post got some pressure off her now she's disappeared into the aether. Which runs me badly.

I don't think I want to lynch va today.

Rels is a good policy lynch though.

And ec filter is a bit to clean at this point, and weird in that he's sort of sidelined and not taking part in what's going on it seems to me and is avoiding like almost all notice atm.


You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this.

tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town.


Why rels?


Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity.


So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans?


Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this.


On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.

Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript

On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

Why does that change things?

cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx


I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves.

I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon

On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum?

On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:

Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town

sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game

Rels
Skynx
Koshi


Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3

On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.

Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.



Do you have anything to show from before deadline?
Or are those posts before deadline?

All of them before deadline, timestamps are korean time

No they're not ? Only the first two posts in the spoiler are before the deadline.

They are... Try quoting Nightpost and compare timestamps...

Sure.
On July 15 2017 02:17 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:11 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:08 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:07 ruXxar wrote:
On July 15 2017 02:03 emperorchampion wrote:
[quote]

You think my filter is too clean?? Please expand on this.

tbh I feel like I'm mostly playing my own game so far. I think I followed my main main null / could lynch reads fairly well so far, now I'm left with va and rels atm. So far I haven't seen much from va that could change my mind otherwise, which is quite unfortunate if he's town.


Why rels?


Cause he hasn't done anything so far, I don't feel like I could remove him from a poe list with 0 activity.


So besides va and rels everyone else are null or town leans?


Yeah I was thinking about that now lol, I need to do some more scum hunting. Otherwise I think the next place to look is between you / skynx / geript, seems like there could be 1 scum in this.


On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.

Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript

On July 15 2017 06:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
Night 1

[image loading]


VayneAuthority, the Vanilla Town, has been lynched.


Night 1 has begun and will end in (at Saturday, Jul 15 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)).

On July 15 2017 06:23 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:16 Tumblewood wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:12 emperorchampion wrote:
On July 15 2017 06:10 Tumblewood wrote:
fuck i shoulda been here earlier

Why does that change things?

cause i planned to defend va if he was gonna get lynched. when i got on ithought i had an hour to do that and it was actually like 5 minutes. if you didn't notice i last-minute switched my vote to skynx


I dunno can't defend someone who doesn't care to defend themselves.

I dunno I think skynx koshi is a good place to look, skynx not the worst counter wagon

On July 15 2017 07:06 emperorchampion wrote:
Hf what do you think about skynx scum?

On July 15 2017 07:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so:

Damdy and geript masons
Hf i think likely to be town
If I assume rsoul doesn't say things just to escape a scum read
If tumble and rux are both town

sl looks like town to me
Rayn likely still town, but need to re read since there have been cases on him this game

Rels
Skynx
Koshi


Am I missing anyone? Think there's a good chance of at least 1 scum in those 3

On July 15 2017 07:33 emperorchampion wrote:
Koshi and skynx can both be scum for tone vs other people in this game. Both didn't really do much day 1 and lots of inconsistencies in skynx case as pointed out by others.

Rels, didn't love his catching up, just the one thing with rsoul.

Shit you're right, it even comes after this:
On July 15 2017 06:11 emperorchampion wrote:
Ah dammit


EC is town.

on the contrary, I think it shows what you were claiming previously, just pretty subtily. He had this game list of scummy people prepared when VA died, he didn't really scumread VA, he justified keeping his vote because "VA didn't defend".

I mean what would scum gain for that if they knew wagons were tvt? Coming back to question emp asked me, why would he not switch over me? Cuz he wasn't really scumreading me either but scumreading VA really doesn't take much effort.

I think he thought VA was gonna be lynched regardless and he was preparing the next day, robotically. He don't think he would resist switching to you if the town leaders told him to.


My favourite post of this game so far So melodramatic hahaha
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
July 17 2017 12:03 GMT
#2138
Guess I had more than 30 min peace out for now
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 12:10 GMT
#2139
On July 17 2017 20:59 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 20:57 Holyflare wrote:
On July 16 2017 06:11 Skynx wrote:
Cop and mason can exist at the same time imo, not ready to unclear damdy and geript altho they have been real bad.


Could be tmi tbh


How though, mafia don't know the setup either.


Because to mafia the millers are legit and I'm town so it has to be a legit setup to them or me fake claiming. Which is why ruxxar is suspicious and also why that post is suspicious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 12:10 GMT
#2140
Masons not millers.
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