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Rels what is your scum list?
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For me Rux is more likely town because he is doing batshit insane shit that doesn't make sense and got a long filter. He is just jumping on everything he sees and has 0 limits.
Like what is the point of doing this as mafia?
On July 17 2017 01:27 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 01:23 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, whatever, I'm rescinding my claim. I don't want to waste any more time doing it and I want to further the discussion today so we can actually lynch ruxxar or koshi.
Everything ruxxar has done this game is absolutely FULL of TMI. Not only with VA but with this claim too. I think rels could maybe actually be town purely for his appeal to me about fake claiming on this page and it's stupid but I'm gonna roll with it.
I can't be bothered to work out how many mislynches there are till end game if rels flipped town but if it's one all of ruxxar's posts outline setting me up for the mislynch the next day when it's an obvious unspoken thing. ##vote holyflareDie scum.
On July 17 2017 01:34 ruXxar wrote:
Anybody not voting for HF goes on my scum list.
As mafia he can easily jump on me and secure the ml he has been pushing all game but instead he jumps on HF for faking a redcheck. Mafia pushes agendas and sticks to those.
I liked this post on TW:+ Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 10:52 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2017 09:53 geript wrote:
@HF. I'd like to get your opinion on TW. IMO, he looks like a great flip (better than Rux). He seems to have a lot of opinions without many suppositions. Many of those opinions are correct and I don't think he was more than mediocre when I've played with him previously. I'm reviewing my read on TW, who I previously had as lock town. The reason for my lock town read, was a very strong tone and meta read from his first list post. After now reviewing his filter again, my opinion on him has changed from locked town to free agent. Here is one of my findings on why my opinion changed: Here he says who he wants to lynch due to his Poe. But more importantly he mentions the *order* in which he wants to lynch. Indicating that this is his strongest scum reads from left to right: Show nested quote +On July 14 2017 14:51 Tumblewood wrote:
the scary thing is i don't think hf is obvious mafia this game. idk what that's supposed to mean but i don't think i want to lynch him today
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actually looking at the playerlist, if you remove everyone i had some reason to not wanna lynch today it's only 4 people. and that's ec/va/rels/koshi. so imma lynch into them in that order(ish) and then after than idk
but if i wanna actually be decent i'll have to filter people. tomorrow (TM) HOWEVER. When I question him later why EC is his primary scum read(as indicated from the post above), this is the response I get: Show nested quote +On July 15 2017 01:52 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 01:50 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 01:46 Tumblewood wrote:On July 15 2017 00:52 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:49 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:31 ruXxar wrote:On July 15 2017 00:28 Skynx wrote:On July 15 2017 00:25 ruXxar wrote:
VA. Tumblewood, rels.
Please vote. What? TW was 100 town???? Yes? What did he do wrong? What did Rels do wrong? They haven't voted yet. chill, i have like 5 hours left to do this Why is EC scum? i didn't say he is. i said he was one of four people i had no reason to townread, and right now i am filtering him I find it suspicious that before even filtering his *primary* scum read, he has already determined the order in which he want to lynch his scum reads. This tells me that he constructed the order in which he wanted to lynch people based on something else than their actual posts in the game. This could be mafia wanting to push a lynch agenda suited to third agenda. It really seemed to catch TW off-guard to be questioned about this, when he should've already had his reasons clear to him on the lynch order if he was town.
Pushing mafia is a good thing in my book and rewards you town points. Unlike for other players who think pushing mafia is a mafia threat.
Also small things like him not disregarding anybody and constantly questioning everybody (TW, EC in particular) makes me think he is not teamed with them.
buuuuttttttt I can see he could just be yoloing his way to the bank. Not discussing the redcheck could be mafia not knowing what to say about it for example.
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On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read. And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly.
If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote.
If only...
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Ohno. I even repeated it again.
lol.
Please remember:
On July 17 2017 17:31 Koshi wrote:
HF is just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow on TW. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win (probably Ruxxar) riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.
It's a good plan. Kuddos.
Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5.
I updated my prediction.
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On July 17 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read. And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly. If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote. If only...
Yes, I saw you did that but you never called him mafia like you did for rels.
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You know, like I typed in that post I just wrote.
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On July 17 2017 19:35 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 19:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 19:18 Holyflare wrote:On July 17 2017 19:12 Koshi wrote:I like how HF is twisting every post I make into something that it isn't and isn't even bothered with the content. I don't say my list is confirmed worse than Skynx his. I am saying skynx is close to where I am and is doing it way cleaner than I am. So he is doing better. And I said it because I was rereading his filter. Nothing more. Nothing less. + Show Spoiler +On July 16 2017 03:41 Skynx wrote:I promissed a list so there we go Never lynch town: rayn, HF, geript, Damdredrayn has been the town pillar this game, not really need to say more + we had the exact same scumlist yesterday. This is town HF, he's been diving into detail finding little stuff on Ruxxar that i liked, he was instantly on VA, etc. He is scumhunting decently so far. geript and damdy are uncontested masons, breadcrumbed earlier + Show Spoiler +On July 13 2017 08:44 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2017 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript is actually also prolly mafia
´ He's totally town brah On July 13 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also I will burn this thread to the ground over geript, just so everyone knows.
I think rayb is also town.
Tina probably not town at this point, rux not sure but he's a bit nitpicky go me atm. On July 13 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:
I think geript is town for these reasons
1) he has no real motivation as scum. Look at his previous games and as scum he's a leader and always have a plan.
Here he's just eh.
2) He leaves himself in bad positions with his opinions. Like his opening post had no real logic behind it which us a town trait for geript early. As scum he could of fakes a reason instead he went eh Idk.
3) I just know he's town this game. (Imo) so i don't really doubt the claim. There is a case where they do this as scum but that will be apparent if they don't die D2-3 anyway so don't have to worry about this read for a while Town: rsoultinVivaxI bought tinas raging in the thread and now replacing out of emotion is really convincing. I don't see a mafia doing this, it would just be very unsportsmanlike (altho confirming Vivax like this is very dicky aswell) Null: Rels, sickluckerUnreadable boyz in da hood of D1, voted VA cuz VA is bad. Need to step up bigtime now. Scum: TW, Ruxxar, emperorThey have all done objectively scummy shit, all in my filter so go look it up. Koshi is on a category of his own, he hasn't done a towny thing so far so that warrants a scumread on its own but i just can't bring together a case looking at his filter. He needs to be lynched at some point if he keeps going like this. I never said anything about a list. I'm saying you're praising skynx who is voting off your tw wagon and not voting a scum read of yours while saying rels is mafia who is pushing a scum read of yours and looking at posts of ec, your scum read. And then giving absolutely 0 content as to why any of these reads exist. Repeatedly. If only I made a post pointing out him voting Rux while he said TW and Koshi are bussing each other. And then whined about it some more in a following post. In which I probably forgot to quote his vote. If only... Yes, I saw you did that but you never called him mafia like you did for rels.
Once more I don't understand your point here.
I'll categorize it under: "Shitty attempts trying to discredit Koshi"
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Full on ignoring HF. I implore other to do the same, it will make you a better mafia player.
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Simply there's a massive discrepancy between:
On July 17 2017 06:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:36 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 06:24 Skynx wrote:
Do we have any reason to lynch Koshi over Ruxxar? Let's lynch TW. Park the bus. I don't understand.
When Skynx votes for your non-mafia read and rels who you just flat out call mafia for pushing your scum read.
You clearly hadn't read skynx's filter at this point and he's voting on ruxxar who you town read but you don't call him mafia.
Why do you call rels mafia for doing the same thing when rels is quoting ec posts and voting off wagon but on your mafia read?
What's the difference between skynx and rels that makes you scum read someone who is pushing your scum read with 24 hours to go over someone pushing your town read?
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This is what town needs to do to win the game
D2: Lynch TW
D3: Read EC/SL/Rels and find 2 town.
D4: Accept HF is mafia and lynch HF.
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Here's your list:
Ec/rels/tw/sl
Rels pushes ec and votes ec - he's mafia bussing
Skynx pushes ruxxar and votes ruxxar - you don't understand and nothing more
Why is rels mafia for pushing someone you think is mafia but skynx is not when he's pushing someone you think is town? What makes rels a more likely bussing attempt when you're qqing about people scum reading you FOR THE EXACT SAME THING.
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There's a fundamental break down in your thought process that quite clearly makes you mafi.
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On July 17 2017 19:41 Holyflare wrote:Simply there's a massive discrepancy between: Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 06:46 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 06:36 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 06:24 Skynx wrote:
Do we have any reason to lynch Koshi over Ruxxar? Let's lynch TW. Park the bus. On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Ruxxar I don't understand. When Skynx votes for your non-mafia read and rels who you just flat out call mafia for pushing your scum read. You clearly hadn't read skynx's filter at this point and he's voting on ruxxar who you town read but you don't call him mafia. Why do you call rels mafia for doing the same thing when rels is quoting ec posts and voting off wagon but on your mafia read? What's the difference between skynx and rels that makes you scum read someone who is pushing your scum read with 24 hours to go over someone pushing your town read?
To other people than HF:
Both points 1 and 2 didn't happen. Here you see mafia HF creating a question based on 2 events that didn't even happen. Pretty hilarious.
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I also want to point out that I can't answer the question he falsely created because both answers would make me mafia.
Do not fall into the trap reading the question without realizing the hypothesis before that is false.
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On July 17 2017 19:46 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2017 19:41 Holyflare wrote:Simply there's a massive discrepancy between: On July 17 2017 06:46 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 06:36 Skynx wrote:On July 17 2017 06:29 Koshi wrote:On July 17 2017 06:24 Skynx wrote:
Do we have any reason to lynch Koshi over Ruxxar? Let's lynch TW. Park the bus. On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Ruxxar I don't understand. When Skynx votes for your non-mafia read and rels who you just flat out call mafia for pushing your scum read. You clearly hadn't read skynx's filter at this point and he's voting on ruxxar who you town read but you don't call him mafia. Why do you call rels mafia for doing the same thing when rels is quoting ec posts and voting off wagon but on your mafia read? What's the difference between skynx and rels that makes you scum read someone who is pushing your scum read with 24 hours to go over someone pushing your town read? To other people than HF: Both points 1 and 2 didn't happen. Here you see mafia HF creating a question based on 2 events that didn't even happen. Pretty hilarious.
You have a list of people that are mafia: rels/sl/tw/ec.
Rels posts his vote and you say his vote is pointless and pretty great if they're mafia together. You haven't bothered to read rels at all and he is one of two/three people pushing ec. You say his vote would be great if they're mafia together implying it's a bus. If you are implying he's town or you don't know then why is his vote pointless if it's on your scum read?
A pointless vote means it will achieve nothing but you repeatedly say you have nothing to town read ec about and rels is delving into ec posts. That sounds amazingly like it's a good vote. Tw has one vote and that's you so how is it any different to your vote?
The second point is actually correct and my bad, you say you reread skynx filter. But the discrepancy still absolutely stands. Skynx is lynching ruxxar who you town read wheras rels is lynching ec who you scum read. Only one of your quotes was posted with a bussing attempt comment (rels) whereas skynx was just you saying you don't understand.
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Let's ask another question seeing as nobody else cares. Why is rels vote pointless when it has the same amount of votes as your choice of wagon and is on someone who you have no reason to town read?
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As a gift to the thread I will stop posting about Koshi and berate you all post game.
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OK I have like half an hour, anything pressing? I'll start reading more thoroughly through everything since I left.
Many thanks to hf for carrying the town torch for today 
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Yesterday Koshi believed there was mafia within rels/sl/tw/ec. He was 100% sure TW was mafia and pretty happy about that. The situation seemed to evolve into a breakdown of the Rels wagon into a TW vs Koshi showdown in which mafia was going to vote Koshi. Now Koshi didn't like that people went to random ass wagons like EC and Ruxxar because that was not going to be productive. But he might have been too fast on that.
Now Skynx voting Rux was just weird because he just said TW/Koshi was a bus. Annoying but what else can I do except point it out twice...
Rels voting EC was potential a smart mafia play. Because if the Rels wagon abolishes people are not going to vote with Rels most likely. Because he is still a mafia suspect. So if the mafia team is Rels/EC/TW what Koshi believes that is a smart play. However, Koshi, smart as he is, did not call Rels flat out mafia because he voted mafia because Koshi is not a retard and accepts votes on mafia. Koshi did however point out it could be a smart mafia play, because it could be a smart mafia play.
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Then look at rels next please.
I accept your rels answer but still have qualms about skynx since you say it's weird and can't do anything more than point it out but you've just been saying skynx is looking good which is a bit of a weird mismatch.
But I'll allow it and let you work.
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