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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:10 GMT
#2061
On July 17 2017 17:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
And you say I'm mafia siding because you can't call me mafia :D :D

Nha I am saying you are mafia siding because you are probably not mafia. Just bad.


If you're town you are mafia siding more cos you're getting lynched

Git gud.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
July 17 2017 08:12 GMT
#2062
On July 17 2017 14:10 geript wrote:
Who ever mafia is, I'm pretty sure they're all bussing each other right now. It feels like most people are having reasonably close lynch lists.

I actually don't hate Rels post on EC. I went and looked at his recent games (resistance [scum], 72hr and another mini). In all his games he quotes a decent amount. But in his town games, things seem to stick out to him a bit more and he seems a bit more idk paranoid. Like he'll flag posts and shit. Length wise, there doesn't seem to be a major difference between alignments that I noticed (either in post length or volume). Tone wise; he seems a bit more self-assured as mafia. It's not a read I'm wholly confident in, but it actually feels like a good place to bury a vote. His response to the claim was pretty fucking off too. Like everyone seems to take a side on it and he doesn't even seem to notice it. Like it's something irrelevant which (as far as masons go) I think is more consistent with being mafia. The big thing though is that he doesn't really seem to have any "eh that seems sketchy" type posts; there's nothing that catches his eye. Rather there's only things he seems to comment on this game. That's the big carry away for me.

SL seems boring. I don't hate killing him either. I can't find a single post of his that gets me hard. Which in looking at Rels filter; Rels at least as a few that make me stop and think.

Right now I'm going to ignore Skynx; partly because I think I want him to be scum and am not sure I can be reasonably unbiased. Also in part because I think EC is a decent shot for scum and EC didn't hate a Skynx lynch but ended up on the VA wagon. EC always seems to want to throw scum on Skynx, but always seems to find a way to push someone else to the top for relatively weak reasons. Especially + Show Spoiler [This Post] +
On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .

I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.

In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.

@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?

I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.

I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.

For now gonna park my vote on va.
where he finds a way to find him kinda town and kinda scum. It's just hard to evaluate Skynx fairly for me right now; but I still kinda think he scum.

I'll look at Koshi and TW in the morning.

I don't understand the bolded ?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:19 GMT
#2063
On July 16 2017 05:57 emperorchampion wrote:
So in summary of the night and game so far:

- hf is lock town for me
- skynx might be town, but needs to stop being so lazy with his cases. Two half assed cases now, and almost lynched day 1.
- ruxxar is likely mafia. Few new reasons are his town reads of hf and skynx after they hard lock him mafia. Mafia motivation is that he doesn't know how to deal with the situation otherwise, so buddying is his only attempt. He gives no regard to tumbles town lock on him or vice versa, looks like buddying attempt to me. His day one reads are completely based on meta. The only reason for town reading me is honesty, despite having many similar reads and I would hope (but am maybe sorely mistaken) pretty strong town play this game.
- koshi needs to haul ass, unfortunately he can likely be mafia as well which is the only reason that in some insane world ruxxar is actually town. I believe that ruxxar started off with a "hey play better " sort of read. Then just never moved off it, and is now stuck bussing his teammate.
- tumble needs to explain his ruxxar read
- rayn still probably lock town, I admit I've been too lazy to read his filter this night
- sicklucker has been funny, but I've found that as both alignments, so will hopefully step up. End of day 1 seemed towny from him.
- damdy and geript don't have much to say here
- rels is super meh. Needs to explain why in his catching up just read only through rayns filter and just sheeped his top read
- vivax is likely town


Hmmm looks like mafia pointing out a team mate to me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:23 GMT
#2064
Maybe not though. We should 1000% be lynching koshi though. You guys just don't know what good mafia players look like when they try a bit. This is below subpar town koshi but he says he's playing well and got obvious mafia from a guy people already were gonna vote after him for reasons already in the thread so he's definitely mafia bussing.

I see all the signs.

QQ that he's got a really good case, berate people and call them mafia but do nothing about it, make absolutely no other fleshed out reads in the game. Classic scum bus.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 08:23 GMT
#2065
On July 17 2017 17:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 17:07 Koshi wrote:
On July 17 2017 16:03 Holyflare wrote:
And you say I'm mafia siding because you can't call me mafia :D :D

Nha I am saying you are mafia siding because you are probably not mafia. Just bad.


If you're town you are mafia siding more cos you're getting lynched

Git gud.

Pretty sure I am getting lynched because I am bussing my teammates.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:24 GMT
#2066
Rekt
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 08:25 GMT
#2067
On July 17 2017 17:23 Holyflare wrote:
Maybe not though. We should 1000% be lynching koshi though. You guys just don't know what good mafia players look like when they try a bit. This is below subpar town koshi but he says he's playing well and got obvious mafia from a guy people already were gonna vote after him for reasons already in the thread so he's definitely mafia bussing.

I see all the signs.

QQ that he's got a really good case, berate people and call them mafia but do nothing about it, make absolutely no other fleshed out reads in the game. Classic scum bus.

Lies. 100% lies. I am trying to get people on the TW wagon but nobody does it. Literally everybody in the thread I ask their TW read and they tell me he is mafia and then vote somebody else.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:26 GMT
#2068
And then you do nothing about those people!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:27 GMT
#2069
100% mafia!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:28 GMT
#2070
On July 17 2017 08:29 Koshi wrote:
These last 5 votes have been so fucking horrible.

Based on a false accusation of HF.
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 02:26 sicklucker wrote:
##Vote Koshi


Completely wasted vote as nobody will join Rels ever. Great vote if you are both mafia though.
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 06:01 Rels wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote emperorchampion


Says 2 people are mafia. Votes a third.

Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 06:38 Skynx wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Ruxxar


Well this one makes sense.
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 06:54 Tumblewood wrote:
##unvote
##vote koshi



Any follow up? No? Didn't think so.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 08:29 GMT
#2071
The follow up was going to bed. And none of those people posted xcept Rels and I was looking into EC his filter for anything to call him town but I can't.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:30 GMT
#2072
You're a lame duck pushing a bus and can't call people out and then follow up. That's not town thought process. You don't even care that they're voting off wagon. Tw push is a legit push and people vote you off based on falsehoods and all you do is make a meek post calling them out and nothing more?

No. This isn't mafia god koshi is it? This is mafia koshi who can't quite piece it together.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 17 2017 08:31 GMT
#2073
You are probably really just mafia. Getting +1 ml today and then auto the thread tomorrow. Killing both Damdred and geript during the night and then D5 push the last ml for the win riding the cred from the TW lynch while everybody already forgot you lynched me.

It's a good plan. Kuddos.

Holyflare is mafia. Remember this on D5.
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:34 GMT
#2074
I'm not getting any cred for tw lynch. I'm getting credit for your lynch though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:36 GMT
#2075
This is your only play. Omgus me as mafia cos you can't call all the people you already called out again with no reasons.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 17 2017 08:38 GMT
#2076
Can we go on with the confirmed mafia in Ruxxar please?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:42 GMT
#2077
Yeh ruxxar has to be mafia though. No idea what rels is talking about with his point of view bs.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 17 2017 08:44 GMT
#2078
We'll see what koshi does with the rest of his day first
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 17 2017 09:13 GMT
#2079
On July 17 2017 17:12 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 14:10 geript wrote:
Who ever mafia is, I'm pretty sure they're all bussing each other right now. It feels like most people are having reasonably close lynch lists.

I actually don't hate Rels post on EC. I went and looked at his recent games (resistance [scum], 72hr and another mini). In all his games he quotes a decent amount. But in his town games, things seem to stick out to him a bit more and he seems a bit more idk paranoid. Like he'll flag posts and shit. Length wise, there doesn't seem to be a major difference between alignments that I noticed (either in post length or volume). Tone wise; he seems a bit more self-assured as mafia. It's not a read I'm wholly confident in, but it actually feels like a good place to bury a vote. His response to the claim was pretty fucking off too. Like everyone seems to take a side on it and he doesn't even seem to notice it. Like it's something irrelevant which (as far as masons go) I think is more consistent with being mafia. The big thing though is that he doesn't really seem to have any "eh that seems sketchy" type posts; there's nothing that catches his eye. Rather there's only things he seems to comment on this game. That's the big carry away for me.

SL seems boring. I don't hate killing him either. I can't find a single post of his that gets me hard. Which in looking at Rels filter; Rels at least as a few that make me stop and think.

Right now I'm going to ignore Skynx; partly because I think I want him to be scum and am not sure I can be reasonably unbiased. Also in part because I think EC is a decent shot for scum and EC didn't hate a Skynx lynch but ended up on the VA wagon. EC always seems to want to throw scum on Skynx, but always seems to find a way to push someone else to the top for relatively weak reasons. Especially + Show Spoiler [This Post] +
On July 14 2017 20:48 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok so caught up, quick post below .

I kinda had / have similar thoughts with rux regarding this "analytical" thing. I think it could be both skynx and geript as town. Plus points to rux for this, but I don't know why he's a bit more waffly on this. Maybe it's just the way people are trying to portray it right now, since I guess koshi is still number 1 for him.

In summary: skynx, geript, ruxxar seem ok for now on the basis that to me they look like they're trying hard. This could come from either alignment, but I'd like to keep them for now. Only thing is Skynx recent outburst is a bit strange. I dunno why so mad.

@skynx: is geript past the point of you could potentially think he's town?

I think ruxxar had some questions for me that I probably didn't answer here, I'll hopefully get around to that before the deadline.

I think my poe list is pretty much va and rels now? rsoul is ok for me for now, would be nice to see if there is any read progression on me from her. think my thing next is to re examine koshi, could easily be sleeping on him.

For now gonna park my vote on va.
where he finds a way to find him kinda town and kinda scum. It's just hard to evaluate Skynx fairly for me right now; but I still kinda think he scum.

I'll look at Koshi and TW in the morning.

I don't understand the bolded ?

Like when I claimed mason, Rayn lost his shit. EC is there posting on relatively recent shit and just ignoring commenting on it. Posts this:
On July 15 2017 05:42 emperorchampion wrote:
Meh koshi is not great, if va did something to do defend I could move. Sad, but not sad at all if he's mafia.

Good places to look: koshi damdred skynx/rux/geript

Like you either think I'm scum and fake claiming or I'm blue. There's literally no in between ground. I'm obviously claiming confirmed Town mason with Damdred and he's obvious explaining sitting on his vote.

When I ping him on it:
On July 15 2017 05:45 emperorchampion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 05:43 geript wrote:
Really surprised EC hasn't commented on the claim.

About the masons?

He's obviously aware of the claim.
On July 15 2017 05:50 emperorchampion wrote:
Ok cool, two names to scratch off my list

Then fully accepts it.

Like if you think Damdred and I are good people to look into, then flat out accept the claim it's pretty odd. On top of it, he's had Skynx in his lynch list throughout. If I have 2 confirmed Town pushing a lynch on a guy I find scummy, I'm pretty likely to sheep their vote. It's weird to need much more to push off from one mediocre lynch to another.
On July 15 2017 05:56 emperorchampion wrote:
im getting a bit of cold feet on va, but I dunno about moving off

It's weird to be getting cold feet about a lynch, be okay with the opposite wagon led by confirmed Town and not jump ship.

It's just a whole mess of unusual all around.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 17 2017 09:16 GMT
#2080
Also, can those of you who are Town please shove your dicks back in your pants and stop trying to waggle them around and have a sword fight with them. Like, it's fucking terrible when I'm being the goddamn voice of reason.
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