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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 09:29 GMT
#5418
On June 26 2017 18:25 Palmar wrote:
Rofl I hadn't read the game but VA claims vigilante shooting our cop. That guy is so special

well. everyone thought sl was scum... =D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 09:34 GMT
#5420
On June 26 2017 18:27 Skynx wrote:
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On June 26 2017 18:20 disformation wrote:
On June 26 2017 18:09 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 26 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
On June 26 2017 17:04 Blazinghand wrote:
I think there's a solid chance that someone else on the annul wagon is scum. I think Ruxxar has generally been really engaged all game; he's likely town. ES has claimed, and we don't yet have any reason to doubt it. Fecalfeast is part of the cohort (along with disfo, ruxxar, and chezi) that I spoke with after the dawn of Day 4. Remember, during a period of time, SL had flipped and we were trying to reason things out. Scum, we can now reasonably infer, had shot Chez and noticed it failed, and on top of that, that SL who they did not shoot has flipped. Scum doesn't know what happened, what prots if any went on, who shot whom, etc. This was exciting and interesting news for town, and confusing news for scum, what happened with the D1 flip. After the VA claim, scum had a lot more information to work on and probably came out of the woodwork, and after the ES claim, they were safe to operate and make statements with surety about what checks they were opearing against, and to bus/not bus etc. I think scum had every motivation in the world to NOT be posting right after that flip. It would be very risky. So the people who dove into convo with me, FF, Disfo, and Ruxxar, are highly unlikely to be scum in my view.

this part is really interesting. def. something i wouldnt have thought to look at. only that i am not sure if a chatterbox like ruxxar or me would be stopped by that. but i like it.

@bh: what do you think of skynx outside of vca stuff?


Outside of that stuff, Skynx is a must-lynch. I felt skeevy putting him on the kinda-town. TBH under my PoE in either circumstance we still have 1 spare mislynch, which means if Skynx is scum we could put him in there and still be fine and win. I think we basically have this in the bag.

hmmm...
brings me back to my:
1 of rels/rayn
1 of skynx/btdt
1 of palmar/bh

For the eaier: I think rayn is town. I think at least one of Rux/fefe/Rels is mafia. Forgot fefe in my last post, still no reason to townread him since sl's breadcrumv check we thought on him is invalid.

I agree on me/btdt.

Why do you think Palmar/bh cant be mafia together?

good question actually.
i guess that comes a bit from the feeling that skynx vs btdt has probably a scum and that rayn vs rels probably has a scum based on interactions. again as palmar pointed out, that might be fairly wrong.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 09:55 GMT
#5425
On June 26 2017 18:52 Palmar wrote:
If someone can explain 1), that'd be appreciated.

On June 15 2017 01:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
I stepped into the dusty bar, slightly late for my appointment with destiny. I had been tipped off that a lot of rabble and undesirables had been coming through here lately.

My eyes scanned over the place and found myself in a scum's paradise. It was loud and disorderly from the bartender to the poker players in the back. In almost every bar, you could rely on seeing the long paneled bar, usually made of oak or mahogany, and shining brilliantly. Encircling the base of the bar would be a gleaming brass foot rail with a row of leather stools along the bar. Along the ledge, the patrons would find towels hanging so that they might wipe the beer suds from their mustaches. The only thing that looked familiar here was the on-going poker game.

Now I won't say that every man in the place looked suspicious, but they didn't all look like angels either. One shady fellow looked to be gettin' along real well with most of the crowd, but something felt off to him about me. There were two older men towards the back of the bar having a bicker as others watched on, leaving me unsure as to their motives. One particular drunk at the bar kept insisting he was a cop to the bartender, which the bartender seemed to ignore. Probably a regular.

I was going to need some more time to find the bounty that eluded my senses at this point, and I sure as hell needed a beer.

On June 15 2017 04:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On June 15 2017 04:41 Eversince wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:21 Koshi wrote:
and you are town. There is no way you keep kicking somebody you know is not mafia.


Assuming your town why would this be? Even if you're 3p I'm not sure how you'd come to that conclusion.
That is entirely what mafia would do. It's the only option they have. They know who is not mafia so kicking not mafia is their only option to win. Kind of in their win-con.

This is causing me to tin foil a lot and I was trying to wait on a response before I mentioned it. HF pushing hard on you, having no real problem with lynching Rayn, pocketing? easy 'town reads' (after reading up I suspect if I had been around last night alls I would needed to do would have been pop in, vote you, chat a bit and got labeled town ez for at least this cycle.) This is all town motivated in your mind? Commence fight/kill off the 3p Koshi, engage bonus shit fight with Rayn, enjoy town chaos from glorious golden throne as city burns.

The last half of my scenario hasn't happened yet. But I would be lying if the thought hasn't crossed my mind. But you're an easy target because you do produce weak reads. You haven't got anyone aside from Palmar? as a possible mafia. And you'd rather quit and get lynched than play. I don't think you're mafia. So that would make you martyr town or 3p. One might be good/bad for town. The prior is only ever bad for town. But it's easy to see why you're being pushed.


breaking character to state that this is the scummiest post in the thread so far for me

didnt you just read VA?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 09:55 GMT
#5426
like VA was breaking HIS CHARACTER
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 09:56 GMT
#5427
also ES is uncc tracker that made us lynch TW (you know who flipped scum rolecop) by explaining to us who SL actually checked. cause she was tracking him and stuff.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 11:58 GMT
#5435
On June 26 2017 20:03 Skynx wrote:
Yey scum lynching scum, i can get used to this.

eh. well. shouldnt you be asking/answering which one of the two has the higher chance of flipping scum?
aka why btdt over plammar?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 12:15 GMT
#5437
ah finally found it. some ppl (read:me) were already pressing btdt about the d1 vote. see part 1 first post and 2nd post.
On June 19 2017 17:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
the solution to btdt playing how he played is super easy

I have not read a lot of this game. Thus I stick to claims. darthfoley's narrative is super fake and I am highly worried about him being scum. Here's why:

1. I was not in thread when Xata vs. Annul happened. I left the thread and I only came back after the flip. I hadn't read shit and I would've joined the Xata train if I had been in thread. You're completely dismissing the fact that I simply wasn't there. There was no possibility for me to vote Xata.

2. During N1, I repeatedly said that Xata should be the shot.

3. When I came back to the thread (and admittedly didn't read shit) I was super content with Xata being the lynch. I joined his wagon rather early.

4. Yep, I defended scum claiming cop. Why the fuck would I go out of my scum way to defend my scum teammate who at the point where I'm trying it is already the lynch? It's absolutely pointless, it's dumb, and it doesn't even fit my scum meta. The last game where I was scum was won because I bussed my teammate super hardcore, starting D1. Why would I ever stop blaming Xata here?




On June 19 2017 17:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 19 2017 17:08 disformation wrote:
i agree that btdt's read progression on koshi later d1 is really strange.
dont understand how he goes from:
On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.

to:
On June 16 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:04 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote:
I don't like the annul town reads.

I think his A-B comparison thing is scummy.


I agree with Koshi and darthfoley here

to:
On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.

to:
On June 16 2017 02:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:10 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Enough rage. You won't see more of that. Please somebody call it fake rage. I am going to post less because this is not really fun for me and when a lot of people are tunneled there is not much I can do.


I'll continue to solve the game but might just do a couple posts from time to time. But maybe not that much.


I have enough pages of filter to let you analyse. I was truthful in every post and tried to solve the game. Problem is that trying was greeted by dumb accusation way too many times instead of some help.

He claimed to post less, then went on to post actually more than he did before (3.5 pages of filter).
Which is town indicative in a weird way?

to:
On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay I am officially tunneled on Koshi :D

On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.

It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities.

He wants to lynch you though. So is he lynchbait or is he scum being fine with the Koshi wagon?

the tunnel post is ultra strange to me...

over xata. who he also scumread quite heavily, but ignored pretty hard during that time. did he ever comment on xata's big reads post?
wish he would have been there at deadline. would have been interesting to see where his vote ended up.

i feel like btdt's rage d2 was slightly more town, but he is very volatile as either alignment. Xata baby sealing it up can also be either a way to discredit btdt or protect him. so d2 is a bit wifomy for btdt and i kinda want to treat it as nai.

@btdt can you explain that progression a bit more?

I had Koshi as scum. Then I came back to the thread, caught somewhat up (besides two pages), and my impression was that Koshi wasn't as scummy as I thought.
So I dropped what went through my mind at that point.
I then proceeded to rather randomly check people but ended up reading Koshi's filter once more (thus the tunneling comment, I found it funny because my intention was to not focus on Koshi), quoting posts I found interesting/scummy. Finally, I came to the conclusion that "no, Koshi actually didn't improve, he's still scum".

I was super surprised he was killed tbh because I wanted to push him D2 all day long with Xata being the vig shot

one can dream


tbh the "i would have voted xata" part is a bit annoying cause neither him nor the ppl scumreading him can prove their point.
point 4 in the first post is very legit.

@plammar comment?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 12:19 GMT
#5438
okay sorry df and me were pressing him.
sorry @ df <3
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 12:25 GMT
#5439
i guess a good question for the btdt direction would be...
"does it look like he legit scumread koshi?"
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 12:31 GMT
#5440
though scum not being around at eod1 sounds fairly plausible given the results.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 13:19 GMT
#5442
On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
oh gf finished cooking. will be back in a bit.

On June 16 2017 02:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Koshi (5): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
ruXxar (3): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax
Xatalos (3): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (1): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
sicklucker (1): Palmar
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker

Not voted (8): Rels, Damdred, VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince

Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Koshi out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).


The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.

he afks ~4h50 b4 deadline with his (apparently) #1 scumread in the lead.
and checks back in at around 7h after deadline.
On June 16 2017 14:59 beentheredonethat wrote:
bad thing: Koshi lynch averted
bad thing #2: annul being lynched over xata
good thing: xata being 2nd wagon

I think a scum!xata will give us lots of indication and I highly suggest xata to be shot at night.

koshi was his #1 scumread. xata apparently at #2.
Can very well make sense from a town pov.
The following read progression on koshi is super weird though:
On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.

On June 16 2017 02:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:10 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Enough rage. You won't see more of that. Please somebody call it fake rage. I am going to post less because this is not really fun for me and when a lot of people are tunneled there is not much I can do.


I'll continue to solve the game but might just do a couple posts from time to time. But maybe not that much.


I have enough pages of filter to let you analyse. I was truthful in every post and tried to solve the game. Problem is that trying was greeted by dumb accusation way too many times instead of some help.

He claimed to post less, then went on to post actually more than he did before (3.5 pages of filter).
Which is town indicative in a weird way?

On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay I am officially tunneled on Koshi :D

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.

It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities.

He wants to lynch you though. So is he lynchbait or is he scum being fine with the Koshi wagon?

"When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at. "
is such a weird sentence for town to make. like he was reevaluation while he isnt? that he read stuff? dunno.
also his koshi scumread also started with a backtrack:
On June 14 2017 20:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
This is carefree yolo Koshi not under-radar-scum-Koshi

I dunno 3rd party koshi though

On June 14 2017 20:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
actually I regret saying Koshi is playing to his town meta because he isn't. HF is right that Koshi is not pushing the thread forward but town Koshi does. Koshi is busy defending himself (okay I can understand that) and he's posting "fun" stuff besides

I am also not entirely sure why btdt scum reads koshi besides really early meta and then apparently never really reevaluates.
cause btdt "case" on koshi:
On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm glad annul posted that video because he also quoted Koshi's math post which is plain bullshit and filler

On June 14 2017 20:54 beentheredonethat wrote:
actually I regret saying Koshi is playing to his town meta because he isn't. HF is right that Koshi is not pushing the thread forward but town Koshi does. Koshi is busy defending himself (okay I can understand that) and he's posting "fun" stuff besides

On June 14 2017 21:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
cheap reads

bad Koshi

On June 14 2017 21:09 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 14 2017 21:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also, nobody is accusing you of being mafia and not having reads. You just are 3P and don't care about them to the same extent to dive and call someone mafia.

Waitwaitwait I'm not locked on Koshi being 3p, I'm not sheeping you

I think he can very well be scum

then nearly a page of nothing on koshi.
then:
On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.

On June 16 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 00:04 Koshi wrote:
On June 15 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote:
I don't like the annul town reads.

I think his A-B comparison thing is scummy.


I agree with Koshi and darthfoley here

and after that the weird read progression i pointed out earlier.
again in spoilers if you have no short time memory:+ Show Spoiler +
The following read progression on koshi is super weird though:
On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.

On June 16 2017 02:06 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:10 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. Enough rage. You won't see more of that. Please somebody call it fake rage. I am going to post less because this is not really fun for me and when a lot of people are tunneled there is not much I can do.


I'll continue to solve the game but might just do a couple posts from time to time. But maybe not that much.


I have enough pages of filter to let you analyse. I was truthful in every post and tried to solve the game. Problem is that trying was greeted by dumb accusation way too many times instead of some help.

He claimed to post less, then went on to post actually more than he did before (3.5 pages of filter).
Which is town indicative in a weird way?

On June 16 2017 02:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
Okay I am officially tunneled on Koshi :D

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 05:14 Koshi wrote:
Anyway. I also don't see why Ruxxar is mafia. More likely lynchbait.

It's not because somebody types things you think are weird/disagree with that he is mafia. You have to look at motive and the intention to solve the game within a person his capabilities.

He wants to lynch you though. So is he lynchbait or is he scum being fine with the Koshi wagon?


looks like scum not wanting to reevaluate a read or dig up another scum read, because he already had a partner in slot #2. who happened to be the rb.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 13:25 GMT
#5451
well btdt the problem in:
You're super misrepresenting my D1. You paint me saying "Koshi looks better" but like 2 posts later, I retract that and say "nope, he doesn't". This is actually me being townie since reconsidering and reevaluating are town traits.

is that you go like
"oh koshi looks better... still good vote"
so you kinda look like you are reevaluating... but arent really.
you also didnt really explain what you disliked in koshis filter outside of 2 bad posts you point out very early, that 1 "rage" post and general meta. so it is overall a very hard to grasp read
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 13:30 GMT
#5452
also a tad too much omgus.
and if skynx and palmar are scum together, skynx jumping on the just like that looks a tad suspicious, no?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 13:32 GMT
#5453
but well lets see what plammar says about rels and skynx
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 13:42 GMT
#5459
On June 26 2017 22:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 26 2017 22:25 disformation wrote:
well btdt the problem in:
You're super misrepresenting my D1. You paint me saying "Koshi looks better" but like 2 posts later, I retract that and say "nope, he doesn't". This is actually me being townie since reconsidering and reevaluating are town traits.

is that you go like
"oh koshi looks better... still good vote"
so you kinda look like you are reevaluating... but arent really.
you also didnt really explain what you disliked in koshis filter outside of 2 bad posts you point out very early, that 1 "rage" post and general meta. so it is overall a very hard to grasp read



Here I say Koshi looks better:

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On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.


And here I say Koshi doesn't look better:

Show nested quote +
On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.


You can clearly see:
1. btdt comes into the thread, has caught up the last pages, and gives his impression on things. There is no in-depth thought process involved, it's just a light-hearted "hey guys, this is where I'm at"
2. btdt comes back into the thread, having invested more thoughts, having reconsidered Koshi. btdt explains why Koshi is not looking better although btdt said he looked better.

I don't know why exactly this is bad.

ah. i think i get it now. there was a bunch of time in between the posts. so i didnt grasp the connection.
but since there were like 8h between the posts. why didnt you switch votes?
if xata looks worse and koshi better, wouldn't xata be #1 scum and koshi #2?
even if you later decide to have been wrong on koshi looking better.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 13:43 GMT
#5460
On June 26 2017 22:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 26 2017 22:30 disformation wrote:
also a tad too much omgus.
and if skynx and palmar are scum together, skynx jumping on the just like that looks a tad suspicious, no?

Skynx and Palmar are both voting me.

But Skynx thinks Palmar is scum.

Note how Skynx prefers to lynch the guy who scumreads him over the guy who's scum-but-not-really-scum-reading him.



aight noted. if you are town there is a good chance you have at least 1 scummer on you.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 13:47 GMT
#5463
On June 26 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
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On June 26 2017 22:42 disformation wrote:
On June 26 2017 22:34 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 26 2017 22:25 disformation wrote:
well btdt the problem in:
You're super misrepresenting my D1. You paint me saying "Koshi looks better" but like 2 posts later, I retract that and say "nope, he doesn't". This is actually me being townie since reconsidering and reevaluating are town traits.

is that you go like
"oh koshi looks better... still good vote"
so you kinda look like you are reevaluating... but arent really.
you also didnt really explain what you disliked in koshis filter outside of 2 bad posts you point out very early, that 1 "rage" post and general meta. so it is overall a very hard to grasp read



Here I say Koshi looks better:

On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.


And here I say Koshi doesn't look better:

On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.


You can clearly see:
1. btdt comes into the thread, has caught up the last pages, and gives his impression on things. There is no in-depth thought process involved, it's just a light-hearted "hey guys, this is where I'm at"
2. btdt comes back into the thread, having invested more thoughts, having reconsidered Koshi. btdt explains why Koshi is not looking better although btdt said he looked better.

I don't know why exactly this is bad.

ah. i think i get it now. there was a bunch of time in between the posts. so i didnt grasp the connection.
but since there were like 8h between the posts. why didnt you switch votes?
if xata looks worse and koshi better, wouldn't xata be #1 scum and koshi #2?
even if you later decide to have been wrong on koshi looking better.

Well originally I planned to be around somewhat prior to EoD. I obviously wasn't and my gf may or may not have something to do with that.

nah i mean between:
On June 15 2017 17:49 beentheredonethat wrote:
Good morning. It's a bank holiday today in Germany and I am spending it with my GF on a wandering tour. I'll probably be in front of a computer in the evening if at all.

I skimmed everything besides the last two pages. Koshi looks better, Xata worse. Ruxxar weird. My mind screamed TOWN when I read rayns big post but I didn't like that he disappeared right after. Hf still town.

Disfo not town anymore because rayn made me paranoid.

Thats kind of where im at.

and:
On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.

This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way.

Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious".

Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements

I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here.

When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.

are like 8 hours. first was around 11 am, second one 19 pm.
why didnt you switch after thinking koshi looked better, but before thinking he still looks very scummy.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 13:49 GMT
#5464
On June 26 2017 22:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2017 22:43 disformation wrote:
On June 26 2017 22:36 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 26 2017 22:30 disformation wrote:
also a tad too much omgus.
and if skynx and palmar are scum together, skynx jumping on the just like that looks a tad suspicious, no?

Skynx and Palmar are both voting me.

But Skynx thinks Palmar is scum.

Note how Skynx prefers to lynch the guy who scumreads him over the guy who's scum-but-not-really-scum-reading him.



aight noted. if you are town there is a good chance you have at least 1 scummer on you.

2.

If I'm lynched and these two are not auto'ed the next two days, my postgame gif game will make you all bleed

is that a challenge? =D
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 13:56 GMT
#5467
mh fair enough.
not buying palmar's grass so far.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 26 2017 14:03 GMT
#5468
and it is 2 ml then lylo. if there are 3 scum left.
so 3 ml in a row is loss.
give that we have some ppl we can exclude from the lynchpool atm (es, va). that is not too bad. esp. if we really have a jk left.

though i guess this or next lynch should hit scum otherwise we might have a triple lylo or some likewise horrible stuff.
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