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On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous. no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks I disagree with this point. If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already. So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either: 1) is that he is a parity cop. 2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though
I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop".
I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop.
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On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous. no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks I disagree with this point. If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already. So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either: 1) is that he is a parity cop. 2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia?
I've never heard of such a thing.
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On June 23 2017 08:46 Chezitwo wrote:
But none of this really matters since you can easily identify me as town anyways and the bonus is FF has a very good chance of being town too and we also do not have to lynch SL for playing terribly due to being a role.
Im actually sad I didn't get to lynch him.
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On June 23 2017 08:47 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:
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I disagree with this point.
If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already.
So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either:
1) is that he is a parity cop.
2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia? I've never heard of such a thing. I am pretty sure you were the one saying mafia knows the setup?!
Quote please.
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On June 23 2017 08:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ruxxar is the lynch today
Are you getting the shakes?
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On June 23 2017 08:49 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:47 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:47 Chezitwo wrote:On June 23 2017 08:45 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:
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Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup I don't think I've ever on TL played in a game, and I've played in a LOT of games, in which mafia knew the setup and town didn't; with the exception of semi-open mini games with like 3 setups and Mafia could infer it based on their own roles, but so oculd town from the list of possible setups does this happen now on TL Mafia? I've never heard of such a thing. I am pretty sure you were the one saying mafia knows the setup?! Quote please. Apologies if you didn't but someone definitely did and it sounds like something you would say. I will not look for it this late.
Then let me find it for you, since your short term memory is so faulty.
On June 23 2017 08:43 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:39 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:38 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:36 ruXxar wrote:On June 23 2017 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:On June 23 2017 08:24 Chezitwo wrote:
Like, BH is painting a world were SL has 2 fucking redchecks and doesn't claim even when he is almost lynched. That is absolutely ridiculous. no the point isn't that he had 2 redchecks. you're literally lying about what I'm sayhing. The point is, SL had a "same" check between you and FeFe. right? I mean, what other crumb is there? it HAS to be that, unless you can find a different crumb? So his "I have redchecks on FeFE and Chez" is his crumbing that he had a SAMECHECK on you guys. But Mafia didn't KNOW that it was a samecheck, mafia thought it was two redchecks I disagree with this point. If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already. So the only reasonable assumption for mafia to make, is either: 1) is that he is a parity cop. 2) he is bluffing. Why would mafia assume "2x redcheck on 2 mafia" -> "parity cop"? Because "If SL had two redchecks as role cop he would've absolutely claimed already." hmm, actually this is a good point for thinking SL is lying about the 2 red checks. I'm not sure how this maps to "so he's definitely a parity cop" though I didn't say that he's "defintely a parity cop". I said that the only 2 logical assumptions to make is that he is either bluffing or is a parity cop. ok fine but the logic still holds then. Mafia saw someone claim 2x redcheck on 2 of them, or 1 of them and 1 green, and the assumption that town would make is "oh he's just trolling" but mafia see sthis and his frightened and shoots him right away for being pcop or just profoundly stupid cop if he claimed 2x redcheck on greens, I feel like this wouldn't have come to mafia attention, right? like remember we need osme way to explain the SL shot based on "Mafia somehow figured out he was blue" Mafia could know the setup
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Another curious tidbit for today is this piece by rayn:
On June 22 2017 10:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar:
Whenever you wake up tell me when you can be here tomorrow. I am going to explain something to you and i am gonna now place my bets on you being town. None of these dumbasses will understand it. So please when you wake up tell me the time when you're gonna be here.
Not sure why everyone ignored it.
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So there's two reasons why mafia would shoot SL.
1) They thought he was a parity cop.
2) They have a rolecop.
If they had a rolecop, then he was checked night 1 or night 2.
Day 2 was pretty much auto, so there wasn't much mafia could do to push SL there.
On day 3, I feel they would've pushed SL harder if they knew he actually was a rolecop.
I didn't get the feeling that mafia knew for certain that he was a rolecop.
If they did, I have a feeling they would've pushed harder.
So I'm going to go with assumption 1 that mafia got scared and were so afraid to be found out by the next possible check of SL, that decided to shoot him last night, instead of actually letting him get lynched today, which was a very likely outcome.
It all points towards it being more likely that FeFe and Chez are mafia.
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Then again, playing the game of statistics, the chance that SL actually hits 2 mafia(assuming 4 remaining) is a 9.5% chance.
Possible, but not very likely.
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On June 23 2017 09:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
so after some brief reactions, before this gets out of hand
I am town vig and shot SL. Mafia NK either got blocked by veteran or medic saved.
Im going to say its unlikely anyone currently posting is mafia as mafia is probably confused as fuck and waiting to see what happened.
so FF/Chez are probably confirmed town then.
My bad on the shot I guess, he was so close to getting lynched yesterday im surprised he never outright claimed when we likely have a doctor, oh well. Didnt feel like wasting another entire day on him
Good shot.
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Onegu did say this 10 minutes before deadline, which leads me to think that someone hadn't registered their night actions:
On June 23 2017 07:49 Onegu wrote:
I'm mobile will be home in 10 minutes and need a few minutes to get day post ready.
If you haven't sent me action pm's do so or no actions for you as HtS isnt here
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On June 23 2017 09:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
but basically I just wanted to confirm that yesterday's voting meant fuck all, it was town vs town. game is far from solved
I feel conflicted about your revelation as vigi.
I think the day would've been more interesting if you didn't claim.
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On June 23 2017 09:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
but basically I just wanted to confirm that yesterday's voting meant fuck all, it was town vs town. game is far from solved
Im curious, did you actually think SL was mafia?
Just want to double check why you decided to shoot him.
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On June 23 2017 09:25 Blazinghand wrote:
also it was night 3 and xat was an autolynch after D1, right? so why no N1 shot?
I think it more sense to shoot him now, when he was part of a close counter wagon to confirmed town.
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If VA is the vigi, and mafia missed their night actions, then I would say that VA is right that its highly unlikely that anyone active around deadline is mafia.
I would like to establish that these people were around at deadline:
Fecalfeast
Chezitwo
Disformation
Blazinghand
Ruxxar
VA - vigi
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On June 23 2017 09:35 Blazinghand wrote:Actually no, Mafia must shoot each night:
But onegu said this 10 minutes before deadline:
On June 23 2017 07:49 Onegu wrote:
I'm mobile will be home in 10 minutes and need a few minutes to get day post ready.
If you haven't sent me action pm's do so or no actions for you as HtS isnt here
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Im speculating mafia sent their actions to HTS, and since HTS wasn't here, they would have to re-send them to onegu.
With 10 minutes to go, it's very possible they could've missed it.
I guess VA can answer this question.
Who did you send your night action to and when?
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On June 23 2017 09:41 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2017 09:39 ruXxar wrote:
Im speculating mafia sent their actions to HTS, and since HTS wasn't here, they would have to re-send them to onegu.
With 10 minutes to go, it's very possible they could've missed it.
I guess VA can answer this question.
Who did you send your night action to and when? If so this would be highly good, we'd be in a really solid spot.
I hope we can get an answer to this question. It's highly relevant.
In the meanwhile I'm going to bed, readying up for work tomorrow.
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On June 23 2017 14:50 sicklucker wrote:
im ded
You magnificent bastard.
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I want to lynch tumbleweed.
I think hes had way too many town reads, not enough scum reads.
His town list on day 1 caught a lot of flak for being against a lot of good peoples sentiment.
After that he's had a heap of town reads, but very few scum reads until very recently.
Basically the opposite of grack who couldn't form any town reads.
TW has a lot of town reads, but no scum reads.
Maybe just lost, or just doesn't care, but I think it could be scum.
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