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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 10:17 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 09:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 07 2017 09:33 Vivax wrote:On June 07 2017 09:23 Blazinghand wrote:On June 07 2017 09:04 Vivax wrote:On June 07 2017 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:On June 07 2017 08:56 Vivax wrote:
BH you can be friendly all you want but if you keep not having an opinion on HF with the evidence posted I don't feel the obligation to answer any of your questions. Please Vivax, PLEASE it's so simple, it's so INTEGRAL to your claim, and you know it! you could have typed it out in the moment it took you to make that post. Come on man, work with me here, not because you're obligated to, but because it's the right thing to do. I can't MAKE you do anything, but if you're town we're on the same side here buddy. Just gimme this much, ok? It'll help! 1. I don't crumb. 2. I claim cause I found scum. Now can you type out what makes you townread HF this game? I really appreciate that reply and I know it wasn't easy for you. Could you also tell me what time you decided to check HF instead of me? Sorry again about the trouble. And, I know you're discussing things in good faith so I'll do so as well. Why not lynch HF? Well, he's basically sounded tryhard, though yes, I know he could do this as Scum, he also called me a 50/50 early on which is pretty accurate (whereas he could have tried to defend me with a legit townread to look good after I flipped if lynched) given the info he had. Yeah, it's not a solid TR on him. But I like him and he's fun to play with, which influences me as well. Really though, not gonna lie here Vivax I think it's a lot more a case of "jesus christ let's just get rid of this guy" when it comes to you. Up until about an hour ago I figured you were gonna AFK all day, and the way you reacted to the D1 lynch seemed at its core not to come from the mindset of a townie. On top of that, RNG, man, RNG. But also when I think about it, you know, the effort put forth from you was really bad. And if you make it a situation where like, either you or HF is scum, it's hard from the PoV of "HF is generally playing well and engaging people for the last 48 hours" and "Vivax has been really down and having trouble being involved, and seemed particularly upset that we lynched scum" to justify a vote on HF. That being said, I can be convinced. But that's basically my reasoning. Like, even if you flip scum for example I don't think that absolves HF, he's a smooth operator. He's a good player. So are you, of course, but HF knows how to talk to talk. I think he could do this as scum, I even think he could do a double bus as scum and try to pull it off. I don't think it's likely you're both scum, but it's possible, and moreso than with like, a normal player. Then plynch the cop and be open about it but don't pretend that you're an operator and someone calls 911 and instead of asking where the emergency is and what it is, you ask if it's not a prank and what your favourite ice cream flavour is. Cause "did you crumb" and "why are you claiming cop when you find mafia" are questions of that sort. Ah sorry if I came off as overaggressive with those questions. And it's not a policy lynch of "the cop who has a red check on someone" because that's not the policy. In fact, if anything, the policy is to lynch the guy who there's a redcheck on. What's happening right now is a strong push against the policy, because of the unique circumstances. You didn't come off as overaggressive you just come off as trying to generate irrelevant drivel as proven by your opinion not being affected by those questions at all. Cause the answer to those questions is proven 100% irrelevant to you considering this followup. You and HF are 100% mafia.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 10:22 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 10:17 Vivax wrote:On June 07 2017 09:37 Blazinghand wrote:On June 07 2017 09:33 Vivax wrote:On June 07 2017 09:23 Blazinghand wrote:On June 07 2017 09:04 Vivax wrote:On June 07 2017 08:59 Blazinghand wrote:On June 07 2017 08:56 Vivax wrote:
BH you can be friendly all you want but if you keep not having an opinion on HF with the evidence posted I don't feel the obligation to answer any of your questions. Please Vivax, PLEASE it's so simple, it's so INTEGRAL to your claim, and you know it! you could have typed it out in the moment it took you to make that post. Come on man, work with me here, not because you're obligated to, but because it's the right thing to do. I can't MAKE you do anything, but if you're town we're on the same side here buddy. Just gimme this much, ok? It'll help! 1. I don't crumb. 2. I claim cause I found scum. Now can you type out what makes you townread HF this game? I really appreciate that reply and I know it wasn't easy for you. Could you also tell me what time you decided to check HF instead of me? Sorry again about the trouble. And, I know you're discussing things in good faith so I'll do so as well. Why not lynch HF? Well, he's basically sounded tryhard, though yes, I know he could do this as Scum, he also called me a 50/50 early on which is pretty accurate (whereas he could have tried to defend me with a legit townread to look good after I flipped if lynched) given the info he had. Yeah, it's not a solid TR on him. But I like him and he's fun to play with, which influences me as well. Really though, not gonna lie here Vivax I think it's a lot more a case of "jesus christ let's just get rid of this guy" when it comes to you. Up until about an hour ago I figured you were gonna AFK all day, and the way you reacted to the D1 lynch seemed at its core not to come from the mindset of a townie. On top of that, RNG, man, RNG. But also when I think about it, you know, the effort put forth from you was really bad. And if you make it a situation where like, either you or HF is scum, it's hard from the PoV of "HF is generally playing well and engaging people for the last 48 hours" and "Vivax has been really down and having trouble being involved, and seemed particularly upset that we lynched scum" to justify a vote on HF. That being said, I can be convinced. But that's basically my reasoning. Like, even if you flip scum for example I don't think that absolves HF, he's a smooth operator. He's a good player. So are you, of course, but HF knows how to talk to talk. I think he could do this as scum, I even think he could do a double bus as scum and try to pull it off. I don't think it's likely you're both scum, but it's possible, and moreso than with like, a normal player. Then plynch the cop and be open about it but don't pretend that you're an operator and someone calls 911 and instead of asking where the emergency is and what it is, you ask if it's not a prank and what your favourite ice cream flavour is. Cause "did you crumb" and "why are you claiming cop when you find mafia" are questions of that sort. Ah sorry if I came off as overaggressive with those questions. And it's not a policy lynch of "the cop who has a red check on someone" because that's not the policy. In fact, if anything, the policy is to lynch the guy who there's a redcheck on. What's happening right now is a strong push against the policy, because of the unique circumstances. You didn't come off as overaggressive you just come off as trying to generate irrelevant drivel as proven by your opinion not being affected by those questions at all. Cause the answer to those questions is proven 100% irrelevant to you considering this followup. You and HF are 100% mafia. ???
Like shit man I'm not the one who forced you to give irrelevant answers, act scummy, or receive a scum Role PM from the host, don't put that on me kiddo
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Oh more happened. Im in bed tho. Gnite.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
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On June 07 2017 08:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Glad to see you're feeling better, Vivax. If you could possibly spare a moment for me, it would help convince me to potentially vote HF over you. You see, I'm eager to understand the events that lead up to this post:
*snipped quotes*
Could you tell me when you made the decision to check HF, and how you crumbed it? Also tell me a bit about the rationale you had for claiming cop today. Thanks man, hope you're feeling better, and I really appreciate you coming back to the thread. It's the right thing to do.
*Vivax answers questions*
On June 07 2017 09:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Really though, not gonna lie here Vivax I think it's a lot more a case of "jesus christ let's just get rid of this guy" when it comes to you. Up until about an hour ago I figured you were gonna AFK all day, and the way you reacted to the D1 lynch seemed at its core not to come from the mindset of a townie. On top of that, RNG, man, RNG. But also when I think about it, you know, the effort put forth from you was really bad. And if you make it a situation where like, either you or HF is scum, it's hard from the PoV of "HF is generally playing well and engaging people for the last 48 hours" and "Vivax has been really down and having trouble being involved, and seemed particularly upset that we lynched scum" to justify a vote on HF.
That being said, I can be convinced. But that's basically my reasoning. Like, even if you flip scum for example I don't think that absolves HF, he's a smooth operator. He's a good player. So are you, of course, but HF knows how to talk to talk. I think he could do this as scum, I even think he could do a double bus as scum and try to pull it off. I don't think it's likely you're both scum, but it's possible, and moreso than with like, a normal player.
So BH asks me irrelevant questions as if they would help him evaluate my alignment. I answer said questions, and as answer I get that he has decided to call me scum beforehand for all the reasons stated here where I make his drivel small cause it really doesn't matter. It's just a bunch of lazy reasons hidden behind a lot of rhetorical fluff.
Conclusion: BH asks pointless questions that don't affect his opinion on my alignment at all, and the only reason he asks them is to be looking like he's doing something, unless he can prove that me crumbing or not and the reason for claiming or not changed anything in the bolded. Hint: It doesn't and wouldn't even if anyone was town, but if you were town you wouldn't care about crumbs or reasons for claiming, you would just be convinced I'm mafia going for a trade and that's it.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
Look Vivax, just because the answers you gave were not convincing to me and I'm not instantly falling to my knees and proclaiming you're glorious town doesn't mean i'm automatically evil scum trying to be evil. I'm trying to be as gentle as possible here because I want you to stick around, so yes, I'm going to act more open-minded even if it'll take you some decent work to convince me.
It's like, how much do I need to bend and scrape and lick your feet in order to get you to engage? Is it possible, maybe just a teeny tiny bit possible, that I want you to stay here in thread after your 48 hour absence since you're really important? Yes. And apparently no level of obeisance is enough for Vivax, not unless you fling yourself to the ground before him in fealty
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
Sorry Your Highness Vivax should I fetch grapes for you? Should I chew your food for you before you eat? Lay down on the ground for you to talk on me so you don't have to dirty your feet? Please, tell me what I could do that would satisfy you so you could not abandon us for another 48 hours
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Quite simply BH, how would the answer to whether I crumb or not or why I claim or not change anything related to your vote?
What for example would have been the answer that would have made you throw away all your reasons for scumreading me? Is there such a thing? If not, you are mafia. If there is, you will not have any trouble answering this question.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 10:49 Vivax wrote:
Quite simply BH, how would the answer to whether I crumb or not or why I claim or not change anything related to your vote?
What for example would have been the answer that would have made you throw away all your reasons for scumreading me? Is there such a thing? If not, you are mafia. If there is, you will not have any trouble answering this question.
Well, basically Vivax you want to know the truth of why I asked that question? I wanted you to admit you had no crumb. I wanted YOU to say it. And we both know that's what it's about, and that's why you didn't initially answer. I wanted you to admit it, that there was not even the barest shred of evidence you were the cop.
And you did.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
I mean like, if you had been active N1 etc and had a good crumb this would actually be evidence. But I knew you didn't have one. And you dodged admitting it as long as you could till it was obvious you had to. Get rekt
If there was nothing you could say to convince me, that's on you buddy, that's on your OWN failings. And now that you've admitted it, there's no takesy-backsies. oh hoh hoh
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
I'm gonna be glad to see you dead, Vivax. Oh it's gonna be great. Oh yes. You can't stop it now. Even with your fakeclaim. Get mad, Vivax, Get mad and call me scum, DO IT. Make it your DYING WISH that town lynch me if you flip town. Curse my name! Hate me! Hate me and die hating me! Rage and cower and post all you want... I like the way you die, boy.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
mmm, take a look at that:
Day Two Vote Count
Vivax (6): Tubesock, Holyflare, Blazinghand, Conversion, Prision Break, ritoky, Tumblewood
Holyflare (2): Vivax, beentheredonethat
ritoky (1): Grackaroni
Grackaroni (0): ritoky
beentheredonethat (0): Prison Break
Tumblewood (0): LightningStrike
Not Voting (2): Tubesock, LightningStrike
Vivax is currently set to be lynched.
The cycle ends in on Thursday, Jun 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00)
That's 6 votes on you, Vivax, and only two on HF (one of which is your own. You think LS and Grack and Tube are all going to listen to you and jump on HF? Unlikely, but even if they do, you need to convince another person, and you're not gonna.
You dead, son. You dead. And you can blame me for that. I could unvote you at any time but I won't. Sure, RNG picked you and you're suspicious and everyone wants to kill you and you're probably scum, but at the same time, I can't wait for you to be dead, dead and cursing me and not allowed to post.
Get lynched son
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OH HOHOH HOH HHOHH HOHOH OHHOH HOH
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
Oh, this is going to be so sweet. Go on, Vivax, ask for people's help. I want to see you squirm.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
Look, Grack is here, why don't you try to convince him. Go on, I'll watch >:D
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There will be no squirming just incessant repeating of why you and HF are mafia.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 11:06 Vivax wrote:
There will be no squirming just incessant repeating of why you and HF are mafia.
Ah, defiant are we? well, you won't be able to repeat it soon... soon... you will be dead! And there's nothing you can do about it! Not one thing!
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if vivax really is cop he's not trying very hard to do what he knows he should. not 100% certain he's not cop but I'm not exactly losing sleep over it. I'd just like Hf to promise that if vivax actually is cop he doesn't shit up the thread too much post-flip
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I without a doubt promise to bend over and get lynched/beheaded/maimed/whatever you want with me if vivax flips cop.
Which is impossible.
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