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On June 07 2017 04:26 Prison Break wrote:
If Vivax flips scum I want to lynch Conversion
Any chance they'd both vote me yesterday? maybe trying to get my lynched over fidei
In that case I could maybe see btdt being town despite playing scummy, because he also wants to kill vivax here
wait this is bad
conversion wants vivax dead, and beentheredonethat wants HF dead
so beentheredonethat looks worse on a vivax=scum flip
also im most confident in vivax now cause he didnt retract, so voted him
really if its, say, 80% vivax scum 20% vivax cop and we lynch HF tomorrow, then im cool with that odds
I was just afraid of the possibility of it being town vs town which would be a terrible outcome
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 05:22 Grackaroni wrote:
If we're absolutely lynching between Vivax and HF then I'm lynching HF.
I mean technically we could let them both live... but assuming Tumblewood is in fact the town doctor there's nothing stopping Mafia from either:
1. if Vivax is Cop, roleblocking him and shooting Tumblewood
2. if Vivax is Scum, pretending to roleblock him and shooting Tumblewood
So night actions won't lead us to get more cop results. If we want to lynch outside of Vivax+Hf (which we reasonably expect at least contains 1 scum and so is a decent shot) then we want to be sure of our targets.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 05:35 Prison Break wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2017 04:26 Prison Break wrote:
If Vivax flips scum I want to lynch Conversion
Any chance they'd both vote me yesterday? maybe trying to get my lynched over fidei
In that case I could maybe see btdt being town despite playing scummy, because he also wants to kill vivax here wait this is bad conversion wants vivax dead, and beentheredonethat wants HF dead so beentheredonethat looks worse on a vivax=scum flip also im most confident in vivax now cause he didnt retract, so voted him really if its, say, 80% vivax scum 20% vivax cop and we lynch HF tomorrow, then im cool with that odds I was just afraid of the possibility of it being town vs town which would be a terrible outcome
Yeah I am a tiny bit nervous about town vs town, but like 95%+ of the time that something like this happens, with a cop claim and a red check in a game with no framer or miller, it's not town vs town. There's no way this check was confused or anything; either Vivax is telling the truth and Hf is scum, or Vivax is lying and is therefore highly highly likely to be scum. Whatever you may say about Vivax, negative or positive, I don't think he or most people tbh would try to pull this as a VT or a cop who didn't actually have a check. I mean, maybe he'd briefly fakeclaim and pressure HF then back off and unclaim and continue to be active or something, but being afk for 24 hours, dropping the claim, then immediately going AFK again for another 24-48 hours is NOT the behavior of someone claiming to be provocative or to drive discourse. Vivax probably not a VT therefore.
On June 07 2017 05:29 Holyflare wrote:
it's kind of ironic vivax picked me in a way because it will fully bite him in the arse
TBH given his night statements the only believable "I checked this guy" options were you and me. I'm surprised he went after you and not me in a way though.
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i just sneezed a burped at the same time....it felt disgusting.
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Here's the thing that I think people are overlooking:
Vivax was pretty annoyed even before we consolidated on Fidei.
On June 05 2017 07:46 Vivax wrote:HF is mafia obviously. you are awful
On June 05 2017 07:49 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 07:48 Tumblewood wrote:On June 05 2017 07:45 Vivax wrote:
There's only one reason for BH to do nothing all game this openly: He's mafia.
HF finds meta game where he does nothing all D1, then claims cop.
Conclusion: BH does nothing as town when he's blue.
He did nothing this game so he's town or blue.
If he isn't the doctor, he is scum.
He isn't ccing doctor, so he is scum.
Put vote on BH, win gaem. when people make constant arguments about someone not doing anything, the argument is always terrible Yes what has TL come to that active engaged players want to lynch others for doing nothing. Or is the issue that there are players doing nothing?
On June 05 2017 07:51 Vivax wrote:
Sadly he's most likely town and isn't gifted with being able to read btdts emotional progression during D1.
On June 05 2017 08:33 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:30 Onegu wrote:
Im still reading.
Im on page 24 now. At this point in time my lynches would be fword dude and Vivax. BH if we wanted a coin flip but the fact that vivax wants him lynched is a point toward not lynching BH. Thanks for your valuable input in the 20 minutes you've spent playing this game after puking out a post of shallow reads to keep up the appearance that you're actually here to play mafia. I'm sure your opinion is very informed and valuable. And this guy. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/trKQY0g.gif)
On June 05 2017 08:40 Vivax wrote:
Chance to lynch BH, two guys avoid him for shit reasons and go to HF and another goes for PB instead.
Basically townies splitting all over my scumreads while tubesock is blatantly throwing his votes into the worst places possible. Kill me please.
On June 05 2017 08:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:43 Onegu wrote:On June 05 2017 08:41 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 08:40 Onegu wrote:
Now 100% serious question. Why are we not lynching Fword dude? Cuz nobody cares about what you want. Well played Vivax. Well played. You sir are a bundle of Joy. Well you wanted to start with being a dick. And it's a 100% serious answer. I think you're town and I think you are super wrong and I'm pretty sure everyone else thinks that too so there's your answer. I didn't coat it in sugar cause you don't coat things in sugar either, and if I coated it in sugar you'd just eat it anyway before reading it.
On June 05 2017 08:52 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:30 Onegu wrote:
Im still reading.
Im on page 24 now. At this point in time my lynches would be fword dude and Vivax. BH if we wanted a coin flip but the fact that vivax wants him lynched is a point toward not lynching BH. Calling my posts shit for no reason and suggesting that you should do the opposite of what my reads say. Meanwhile never stating a single reason for me being mafia so just assuming you are here to lynch people at your own leisure and not to win the game.
So he's mad beforehand that people aren't killing BH for doing nothing, and then he finds out that his read on Fidei was bad and now people are scum reading him. He thinks that he was one of the only ones who put good reasoning and effort into his pushes this game and that other people just got rewarded for playing stupidly.
People that think this would be a good strategic play to try to trade 1 for 1 with HF are completely off the mark. Vivax was in a worse spot than he was yesterday but he was very far from the definite lynch today. I think he is legitimately angry and most of the time the angry player is just a butt-hurt townie.
(I also don't think he's mafia just because he has had a pretty similar thought process to me throughout the game and has backed up a lot of my reads.)
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i don't believe vivax's claim.
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I mean vivax tunneled HF so the redcheck almost seems too convenient, and I know we had a doc, BUT really why would anyone check HF? (assuming he often dies night 1/2) that seems like a bad night 1 check right, wouldnt it be better to check people who are hard to read / less active instead? HF was about to get nightkilled or lynched eventually anyway, I see no benefit here
also maybe they leave TW alive so vivax has an excuse for surviving the night in case we decide to leave both alive? or so we can't do that and are forced to decide now
last thing can someone walk me through possible set-ups. do we think a cop is hiding if vivax=scum, or, d we think town has another blue (or none at all)? if answering this is bad then ok, but HF keeps telling me to "believe" but it really seems like hes telling me not to care but i think it's relevant here.
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I don't either I think he's VT.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 06:01 Grackaroni wrote:Here's the thing that I think people are overlooking: Vivax was pretty annoyed even before we consolidated on Fidei. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 07:46 Vivax wrote:HF is mafia obviously. On June 05 2017 07:43 Tubesock wrote:
I'm contemplating a yolo vivax lynch. you are awful Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 07:49 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 07:48 Tumblewood wrote:On June 05 2017 07:45 Vivax wrote:
There's only one reason for BH to do nothing all game this openly: He's mafia.
HF finds meta game where he does nothing all D1, then claims cop.
Conclusion: BH does nothing as town when he's blue.
He did nothing this game so he's town or blue.
If he isn't the doctor, he is scum.
He isn't ccing doctor, so he is scum.
Put vote on BH, win gaem. when people make constant arguments about someone not doing anything, the argument is always terrible Yes what has TL come to that active engaged players want to lynch others for doing nothing. Or is the issue that there are players doing nothing? Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 07:51 Vivax wrote:
Sadly he's most likely town and isn't gifted with being able to read btdts emotional progression during D1. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:33 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 08:30 Onegu wrote:
Im still reading.
Im on page 24 now. At this point in time my lynches would be fword dude and Vivax. BH if we wanted a coin flip but the fact that vivax wants him lynched is a point toward not lynching BH. Thanks for your valuable input in the 20 minutes you've spent playing this game after puking out a post of shallow reads to keep up the appearance that you're actually here to play mafia. I'm sure your opinion is very informed and valuable. On June 05 2017 08:22 Tubesock wrote:
##Unvote
Vote: Vivax And this guy. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:40 Vivax wrote:
Chance to lynch BH, two guys avoid him for shit reasons and go to HF and another goes for PB instead.
Basically townies splitting all over my scumreads while tubesock is blatantly throwing his votes into the worst places possible. Kill me please. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:45 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 08:43 Onegu wrote:On June 05 2017 08:41 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 08:40 Onegu wrote:
Now 100% serious question. Why are we not lynching Fword dude? Cuz nobody cares about what you want. Well played Vivax. Well played. You sir are a bundle of Joy. Well you wanted to start with being a dick. And it's a 100% serious answer. I think you're town and I think you are super wrong and I'm pretty sure everyone else thinks that too so there's your answer. I didn't coat it in sugar cause you don't coat things in sugar either, and if I coated it in sugar you'd just eat it anyway before reading it. Show nested quote +On June 05 2017 08:52 Vivax wrote:On June 05 2017 08:30 Onegu wrote:
Im still reading.
Im on page 24 now. At this point in time my lynches would be fword dude and Vivax. BH if we wanted a coin flip but the fact that vivax wants him lynched is a point toward not lynching BH. Vivax makes a shit post on why PB post was bad. Calling my posts shit for no reason and suggesting that you should do the opposite of what my reads say. Meanwhile never stating a single reason for me being mafia so just assuming you are here to lynch people at your own leisure and not to win the game. So he's mad beforehand that people aren't killing BH for doing nothing, and then he finds out that his read on Fidei was bad and now people are scum reading him. He thinks that he was one of the only ones who put good reasoning and effort into his pushes this game and that other people just got rewarded for playing stupidly. People that think this would be a good strategic play to try to trade 1 for 1 with HF are completely off the mark. Vivax was in a worse spot than he was yesterday but he was very far from the definite lynch today. I think he is legitimately angry and most of the time the angry player is just a butt-hurt townie. (I also don't think he's mafia just because he has had a pretty similar thought process to me throughout the game and has backed up a lot of my reads.)
Butt hurt VT?
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 06:02 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't either I think he's VT.
Ah!.
Hmm, you know, I don't think Vivax would do this as a VT. I get what you're saying that his lynch wasn't automatic today so as perfection rational scum maybe he wouldn't be this desperate. But by that same token, as a townie he shouldn't be as desperate anyways. And certainly I think Vivax is, for all his warts, not the kind of guy who likely would pull some bullshit like this as a VT. It's possible but I don't think it's likely.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 06:01 ritoky wrote:
i don't believe vivax's claim.
Because you think he's scum or because you think he's VT?
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On June 07 2017 06:06 Blazinghand wrote:Because you think he's scum or because you think he's VT?
i am currently at fake cop and no further yet. force me to guess, i would say mafia because i don't see the town upside in the play as vt and i don't think vivax is a dumb player.
i just don't see how a real cop vivax red checks the guy he was sparring with d1 and then says "red check + throw a fit" *mic drop*. doesn't cop vivax yell even louder at hf?
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the spite thing makes it obviously fake and I don't even know why you're debating it
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I mean grack and btdt are making vivax town cases
sooooooooooooooooooo
lynch 'em boys
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On June 07 2017 06:19 Holyflare wrote:
I mean grack and btdt are making vivax town cases
sooooooooooooooooooo
lynch 'em boys
lol ok.
Don't come running back to me after I get proven right again with some Grack TMI bullshit over something this blatant.
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 06:19 Holyflare wrote:
I mean grack and btdt are making vivax town cases
sooooooooooooooooooo
lynch 'em boys
There's nothing wrong with discussing why vivax might be town Holyflare. I don't appreciate you trying to cause a chilling effect regarding this.
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voted on vivax
i don't understand how grack got to vivax vt, but i guess that's to be expected.
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On June 07 2017 06:25 ritoky wrote:
voted on vivax
i don't understand how grack got to vivax vt, but i guess that's to be expected.
Is that so? It seemed like you were half the way there.
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Something about you saying "all I know is Vivax is a fake cop!"
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Blazinghand
United States25561 Posts
On June 07 2017 06:27 Grackaroni wrote:
Something about you saying "all I know is Vivax is a fake cop!"
Seems reasonable to me right? Like OK who wants to fake being a cop with a red check? Hint: it's scum
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