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DeepBlueSea89
Profile Joined March 2017
18 Posts
March 17 2017 13:54 GMT
#321
This thread is going too fast for me. From a skim, I agree that Calix is town. I'm somewhat ambivalent on Damdred and I didn't like Malongo's posts. I'm going to try and re-look at everyone's filters after work tonight.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 13:55 GMT
#322
Maybe it's kind of meh.

So dis

Damdred
Calix
Xata
Koahi
Dis
Rayn
Deep

This is kinda a town list where I am at right now. Am I wrong on any of these and why?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 17 2017 13:56 GMT
#323
On March 17 2017 22:54 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
This thread is going too fast for me. From a skim, I agree that Calix is town. I'm somewhat ambivalent on Damdred and I didn't like Malongo's posts. I'm going to try and re-look at everyone's filters after work tonight.


Eh if it makes you feel better when I joined this would be super slow game, even a year two years we were having 100 page d1 lol.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 17 2017 13:56 GMT
#324
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

On March 17 2017 22:51 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

mal is fairly 50/50 to me.
On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them.


Do you have any other reasons to scum-read DF outside of him ignoring your discussion? I would like to see DF/ Malongo get stuck in more but that is about it.

On the one hand, deviating from the status quo gets Malongo attention. On the other hand, he's just voting for raynpelikoneet because of his early-game trolling (which reminds him of another game). So he's not risking much there since there's no pressure for him to persuade people to vote in that direction and it doesn't help his stated "don't lynch Damdred/ disformation" goal. It's weak.
DeepBlueSea89
Profile Joined March 2017
18 Posts
March 17 2017 13:56 GMT
#325
Why Rayn town? He hasn't posted anything substantial?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 14:04 GMT
#326
On March 17 2017 22:56 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:
Why Rayn town? He hasn't posted anything substantial?

I have made 0 non-substantial posts except for this one.
table for two on a tv tray
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 14:10 GMT
#327
On March 17 2017 22:55 Damdred wrote:
Maybe it's kind of meh.

So dis

Damdred
Calix
Xata
Koahi
Dis
Rayn
Deep

This is kinda a town list where I am at right now. Am I wrong on any of these and why?

Hmmm...
i'm townl , deep prolly town, Koshi prolly town, you more likely town than scum
not 100% on rayn yet. his total meta shift is kinda throwing me off. somewhere between null and town lean, as mentioned earlier.
xata makes more sense to come from a town pov, slightly worried that he is overly focused on me, so i want to see what he does later. town lean though.
calix is still a bit weird for me atm. chance of her being town is good enough, that i dont want to lynch her atm though. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 14:15 GMT
#328
note to myself:
DeepBlueSea89 and rayn are apparently easy to summon.

rayn... eh i mean:
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batman!
halp! the penguin has hired a lot of hired muscle and is making it increasingly difficult for us to crack down on his illegal operations. can you give us information about his identity so we can stop the flow of his cash, so he cant hire hired muscle anymore?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 14:20 GMT
#329
On March 17 2017 22:56 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 22:51 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

mal is fairly 50/50 to me.
On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them.


Do you have any other reasons to scum-read DF outside of him ignoring your discussion? I would like to see DF/ Malongo get stuck in more but that is about it.

On the one hand, deviating from the status quo gets Malongo attention. On the other hand, he's just voting for raynpelikoneet because of his early-game trolling (which reminds him of another game). So he's not risking much there since there's no pressure for him to persuade people to vote in that direction and it doesn't help his stated "don't lynch Damdred/ disformation" goal. It's weak.

Well, it gives df a higher chance at being scum than tw or mal, so yes.
Not sure about the mal stuff, are you saying it is more likely scum than 50/50, or are you agreeing on the 50/50?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 14:21 GMT
#330
oh well. i think the penguin is one of two persons, but i am not sure which one.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 14:24 GMT
#331
On March 17 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 11:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.

Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.

Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good.

ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets
calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read


Rayn, in town circle? Hasn't he been just null/scum read by everyone?

What were your reads on me/Koski/Damdred then?

ya but he's still too early to read
I was null on all of them. there are reasons I could claim scum/town on one of them but they are pretty lame
good times for all
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 17 2017 14:24 GMT
#332
On March 17 2017 23:20 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 22:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

On March 17 2017 22:51 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

mal is fairly 50/50 to me.
On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them.


Do you have any other reasons to scum-read DF outside of him ignoring your discussion? I would like to see DF/ Malongo get stuck in more but that is about it.

On the one hand, deviating from the status quo gets Malongo attention. On the other hand, he's just voting for raynpelikoneet because of his early-game trolling (which reminds him of another game). So he's not risking much there since there's no pressure for him to persuade people to vote in that direction and it doesn't help his stated "don't lynch Damdred/ disformation" goal. It's weak.

Well, it gives df a higher chance at being scum than tw or mal, so yes.
Not sure about the mal stuff, are you saying it is more likely scum than 50/50, or are you agreeing on the 50/50?


Now that I'm not in OMGUSville, I'm not as sure on DF as I was.

I was considering whether Malongo's words line up with his actions and concluded no, so the former.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 17 2017 14:25 GMT
#333
On March 17 2017 23:24 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote:
On March 17 2017 11:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.

Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.

Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good.

ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets
calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read


Rayn, in town circle? Hasn't he been just null/scum read by everyone?

What were your reads on me/Koski/Damdred then?

ya but he's still too early to read
I was null on all of them. there are reasons I could claim scum/town on one of them but they are pretty lame


Since the dead pigeon outside my window has done more scum-hunting than you have, don't hold back then.

Going "it's too early to read XYZ" is anti-town.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 14:26 GMT
#334
i think in my brain its kinda like:
df > tw > mal > rels/1eg/eden > rayn
after that it gets a bit blurry as in various town leans / reads.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 14:30 GMT
#335
On March 17 2017 23:24 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 23:20 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 22:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

On March 17 2017 22:51 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

mal is fairly 50/50 to me.
On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them.


Do you have any other reasons to scum-read DF outside of him ignoring your discussion? I would like to see DF/ Malongo get stuck in more but that is about it.

On the one hand, deviating from the status quo gets Malongo attention. On the other hand, he's just voting for raynpelikoneet because of his early-game trolling (which reminds him of another game). So he's not risking much there since there's no pressure for him to persuade people to vote in that direction and it doesn't help his stated "don't lynch Damdred/ disformation" goal. It's weak.

Well, it gives df a higher chance at being scum than tw or mal, so yes.
Not sure about the mal stuff, are you saying it is more likely scum than 50/50, or are you agreeing on the 50/50?


Now that I'm not in OMGUSville, I'm not as sure on DF as I was.

I was considering whether Malongo's words line up with his actions and concluded no, so the former.

Mh. Well TW didnt comment on a bunch of stuff.
But after DF's mention on Xata's reaction to the setup stuff I was very sure that he would comment on the xata/damdy/me stuff, it is really odd to me that he didn't.
Can kinda see the point on Mal though. Like the result of his posts was him avoiding taking stances, voting on a dead wagon and gtfoing with all options open.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 14:31 GMT
#336
Okay i'll stop because i don't like put 1 hr effort into my posts that could be written in 5 minutes.

First of all there is this:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

Now the red part doesn't make any sense since the green part is the correct answer here. There is absolutely no reason to ask disformation WHAT he thinks of what Eden did. You either call him mafia for making something out of something NAI (which disformation didn't) or you realize it doesn't mean anything. If you want to ask something, you ask "why are you making something out of a thing that's completely not alignment indigative?".

Basically what Damdred did is he gave disformation a question where every answer disformation can possibly give is wrong. And that's not what townies do.

On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

Also this is very much bs right here. He is either saying:
- DBS is a suspect because he hasn't posted for 12 hrs (which is jsut bullshit), or
- it's not actually alignment indicative (which makes the "read" bullshit)



Second order of business is this post:
On March 17 2017 10:18 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 10:06 darthfoley wrote:
Oh! Also don't like Malongo

I think we are in the same team tbh. You quote still sucks anyways.

My general read is pretty weak at this point. I don´t like how fast Damdred and disformation are piling up ealry. I would rather find a third way because we may be making mafia life too easy.

So I propose lynching Ryan. Not that I find him specially scummy but I don´t want to play with a troll for a second time.

##ryanpelikoneet

Everything else es just nonsense for me at this point.

I have huge problems with the red parts in this post. Last game Malongo played he went straight to scumhunting. This game (which is also closer to his last scumgame here). The red flags are:
- There is no reason to call Darthfoley town just because he is calling Malongo mafia
- There is no reason to assume disformation and Damdred are town just because there are people voting for them

The same thing appears in Malongo's scumgame. He finds some NAI narrative that makes no sense at all and makes "reads" based on it. He isn't basically trying to find mafia. He is just talking nonsense.

The third thing that sticks out to me is Xatalos. There are a couple of problems in his posting:
- He thinks i am trolling (which he should know i never am), well not really trolling, he thought i wasn't saying anything when clearly i was in every single one of my posts
- I don't see any sort of direction in his posting, basically i don't understand what he is doing
- He has somehow come to a conclusion that everyone is scum/null reading me which is not true since only Malongo is "scum"reading me and Koshi is clearly townreading me



Other than that:
DBS is quite clearly town
Koshi is town
Calix is most likely just over-eager town
I don't have any problems with disformation
I don't have any problems with Darthfoley
I don't have any problems with Tumblewood
Onegu is his basic non-entity-self
I somehow thought Eden could possibly be town for his opener but i am not sure why anymore. So idk about him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 14:34 GMT
#337
Wait disformation. How can Rels be more townie than "somewhere between null and town lean"?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 17 2017 14:36 GMT
#338
Oh nvm, you went from scum -> town. I got confused.
table for two on a tv tray
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 14:36 GMT
#339
On March 17 2017 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait disformation. How can Rels be more townie than "somewhere between null and town lean"?

He isnt?
On March 17 2017 23:26 disformation wrote:
i think in my brain its kinda like:
df > tw > mal > rels/1eg/eden > rayn
after that it gets a bit blurry as in various town leans / reads.

left most scum, right least scum.
so df most scum, you least scum.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
March 17 2017 14:38 GMT
#340
On March 17 2017 23:25 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 23:24 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 15:10 Xatalos wrote:
On March 17 2017 11:29 Tumblewood wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:54 Damdred wrote:
As for your reads Calix yeah I agree.

Koshi, xata, calix, deep, damdred is a strong town base right now.

Deeps follow up postings (while I strongly disagree what he says makes me scum), have been pretty thoughtful. And pretty good.

ik damdred likes town circles but come on this is too early to read vets
calix and deepblue are eh but who am i to criticize that. just xata/koshi/damdy/rayn are way too early to read


Rayn, in town circle? Hasn't he been just null/scum read by everyone?

What were your reads on me/Koski/Damdred then?

ya but he's still too early to read
I was null on all of them. there are reasons I could claim scum/town on one of them but they are pretty lame


Since the dead pigeon outside my window has done more scum-hunting than you have, don't hold back then.

Going "it's too early to read XYZ" is anti-town.

fuck that I'm sick of reads based on like 10 posts from someone who can easily look decent for as long as xata did when Damdred TRed him (and he wasn't that townie imo).
it seemed like it should have been a throwaway read and then it wasn't
good times for all
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