[M][N] Generic Mini Mafia - Page 19

On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.

On March 17 2017 21:16 disformation wrote:
though i'd like koshi to explain why he switched from damdred to oneg like that.

On March 17 2017 09:28 Damdred wrote:
As for my thoughts on disformation in not sure.

I think there is a huge mmicommunication and we are somewhere list in translation. Like the whole argument might be kinda bad because I think he was looking for a real reason I was scum reading xata.

But still doesn't make a lot of sense meh.

But he's sometimes super defensive on town so I just need more time to evaluate him tbh.

On March 17 2017 09:59 Damdred wrote:
Xata started as a gut read from his first playful banter. He generally as scum is pretty tense non fluid and kinda lacks much in the way of anything. I felt he was the opposite at the start, he flowed with the game thread was involved and tried to understand players.

I thought he looked town tbh.

Calix is a dick (lovable ) as town and is more free with the town reads. As scum hedges and is more middle of the road. Here really I involved even early trying to ferret out people. I liked it early and liked thebdickishness that was displayed towards koshi trying to get him to play.

Also for the record I think disf probably going to be town. Seems legit confused atvpoints, has time to back pedal and just explain and would get pressure off him but doesn't do it and just moved straight ahead. I still would like some explanation from him but yeahbi don't think scum woulddd play to bring that much attention to himself without trying to be it of him before he leaves. (Sorts bad read by hownibfeel)

On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

On March 18 2017 00:17 Eden1892 wrote:

Why are you taking my claim at face value, disfo?

On March 18 2017 00:25 Koshi wrote:

Onegu is always a good place to leave your vote while rereading.

On March 17 2017 22:55 Damdred wrote:
Maybe it's kind of meh.

So dis

Damdred
Calix
Xata
Koahi
Dis
Rayn
Deep

This is kinda a town list where I am at right now. Am I wrong on any of these and why?

On March 17 2017 23:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i'll stop because i don't like put 1 hr effort into my posts that could be written in 5 minutes.

First of all there is this:

Now the red part doesn't make any sense since the green part is the correct answer here. There is absolutely no reason to ask disformation WHAT he thinks of what Eden did. You either call him mafia for making something out of something NAI (which disformation didn't) or you realize it doesn't mean anything. If you want to ask something, you ask "why are you making something out of a thing that's completely not alignment indigative?".

Basically what Damdred did is he gave disformation a question where every answer disformation can possibly give is wrong. And that's not what townies do.


Also this is very much bs right here. He is either saying:
- DBS is a suspect because he hasn't posted for 12 hrs (which is jsut bullshit), or
- it's not actually alignment indicative (which makes the "read" bullshit)

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Second order of business is this post:

I have huge problems with the red parts in this post. Last game Malongo played he went straight to scumhunting. This game (which is also closer to his last scumgame here). The red flags are:
- There is no reason to call Darthfoley town just because he is calling Malongo mafia
- There is no reason to assume disformation and Damdred are town just because there are people voting for them

The same thing appears in Malongo's scumgame. He finds some NAI narrative that makes no sense at all and makes "reads" based on it. He isn't basically trying to find mafia. He is just talking nonsense.

The third thing that sticks out to me is Xatalos. There are a couple of problems in his posting:
- He thinks i am trolling (which he should know i never am), well not really trolling, he thought i wasn't saying anything when clearly i was in every single one of my posts
- I don't see any sort of direction in his posting, basically i don't understand what he is doing
- He has somehow come to a conclusion that everyone is scum/null reading me which is not true since only Malongo is "scum"reading me and Koshi is clearly townreading me

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Other than that:
DBS is quite clearly town
Koshi is town
Calix is most likely just over-eager town
I don't have any problems with disformation
I don't have any problems with Darthfoley
I don't have any problems with Tumblewood
Onegu is his basic non-entity-self
I somehow thought Eden could possibly be town for his opener but i am not sure why anymore. So idk about him.

On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.

Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.

As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.

Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.

On March 17 2017 12:27 Malongo wrote:

Just a first impression. Mostly because your position about null reading ryan and because you are calling me out. Don´t expect me to post substance anyways. My goal today is not to lynch Damdred/disformation.

On March 17 2017 10:18 Malongo wrote:

I think we are in the same team tbh. You quote still sucks anyways.

My general read is pretty weak at this point. I don´t like how fast Damdred and disformation are piling up ealry. I would rather find a third way because we may be making mafia life too easy.

So I propose lynching Ryan. Not that I find him specially scummy but I don´t want to play with a troll for a second time.

##ryanpelikoneet

Everything else es just nonsense for me at this point.

On March 17 2017 23:50 Tumblewood wrote:
ALSO disfo v calix is a TvT argument. no way scum!disfo goes into an argument against someone way more widely TR b/c he knows he won't win

On March 17 2017 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:

This isn't a good argument. If disformation is scum regardless of how widely townread Calix is he has to go into the argument with him because Calix is calling him mafia. Why wouldn't disformation go into argument with Calix if Calix is mafia and he is town? That would mean that Calix' argument is bs so NOT going into an argument with him makes no sense.

On March 18 2017 00:37 Koshi wrote:

What would scum!disfo do?

On March 18 2017 00:28 disformation wrote:

but what made you want to switch off of damdred in the first place?

On March 17 2017 23:50 Tumblewood wrote:
ALSO disfo v calix is a TvT argument. no way scum!disfo goes into an argument against someone way more widely TR b/c he knows he won't win

On March 18 2017 00:14 Tumblewood wrote:

this is based off of the assumption that calix is town (duh, anyone so anal is probably town). also scum can totally ignore the accusation. it wasn't exactly threatening and the omgus defense is mostly a last resort.
seeing two people go at it without interacting with the rest of the thread is a tell I will always call

On March 18 2017 00:25 disformation wrote:
You could say he is hedging / keeping his options open, but imo this post is more likely to come from town. Esp. since I think scum would be more eager to vote the counter wagon to himself.
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guess the question is whether rayn is right and damdred tried to set me up with that question, or if it was part of the miscommunication that was going on. =/