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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 09:05 GMT
#281
but yeah work, cu laters
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 09:07 GMT
#282
Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here:
On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)

in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started.


Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here.

Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you.

It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done.

##vote disformation

#selfmeta:
read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D


Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot.

So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol.

You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 17 2017 09:09 GMT
#283
On March 17 2017 18:03 disformation wrote:
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On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:49 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.


Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter?

Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off.

I don't see how Damdred is comparable.

I have a huge problem with this post, as none of that makes me scum and calix knows this. context: she was a cohost in my last town game where I was super defensive and reacting bad to pressure a lot. I actually nuked myself in the end.

I kinda like that she put '' around the questioning, because the whole line of that was posting something about me that was not true and then scumreading me, when I call her out on that.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

On March 17 2017 07:46 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 07:44 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

wtf that smiley thing was damdy and I already explained what i got from the filter.


Your tone seems hostile here which is uncalled for since all I did was ask if you had anything from your Xatalos filter-dive. I don't see how that warrants your 'wtf'


Can you guys explain your TR on her? Cause I think her push on me is a scum push and otherwise she only has posted a bunch, most of which ended in her calling everyone town or going nowhere.


Using a game where I already knew your alignment is retarded, especially as I am more used to seeing you in obs QT and not in-game. I also don't see how this makes you town as opposed to it being NAI.

I don't want an answer to that btw. Just stop bitching/ OMGUSing and actually contribute something. This would literally address half of my case against you which is that you're responding to people but not doing anything.

FWIW I picked up on you because it initially felt like you were blending, then when I was reading the chat, you stuck out to me due to your tone compared to everyone else and I pushed there. Simple stuff.

"most of which ended in her calling everyone town"

Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

btdt did the same thing (seeing that i am very defensive / don't react to pressure very well as host/cohost and then using it against me as scum) so i dont think it is retarded at all. shitty pushes on me generally come from scum more often that from town.

i thought your case against me was that you dont like my tone? where do you say that your problem is me not contributing anything?


K but I'm not pushing you to make you tilt. If you read, you'll see that I am literally asking you to contribute. Nice try at avoiding my request, can't answer it?

I said early on that you 'were on the defense a lot'. Looking at that now, I guess that doesn't really convey my "you're not contributing much of your own" point though.

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Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.


Are you scum-reading DF, for example? Do you have any opinions on Xatalos and Damdred? Damdred's train? Malongo not voting on the main trains? raynpelikoneet's latest post??? Like come on, this is basic-bitch-tier.

Seriously, you have 2 pages of filter and you have yet to do anything game-solving. Amazing. Meanwhile I - the supposed ""mafia"" - am running circles around your bitch arse.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 17 2017 09:12 GMT
#284
On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read
2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads
3) "look how much work i already did"

if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place


You've never been mislynched and you know I know this yet you're trying to claim that you're 'weak'.

Calling bullshit. I was 100% the first person to scum-read you and the only person who really agrees with me is Xatalos.

The rest of your reasons are painting my actions in a scummy light with no backing. Try again.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 17 2017 09:13 GMT
#285
On March 17 2017 18:07 disformation wrote:
Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)

in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started.


Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here.

Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you.

It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done.

##vote disformation

#selfmeta:
read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D


Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot.

So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol.

You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration.


I've said about three times now that I am willing to reconsider if you ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.

You keep painting me as scum...instead of doing the something.

Given this, I really don't see how this makes sense from town POV.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 09:29 GMT
#286
On March 17 2017 11:50 Onegu wrote:
I think there is a problem with my role PM...

It says VT.

Must be some sort of mistake for me to roll VT again.

I think hosts are just trolling me.

##unvote
##Vote Onegu

Obvious mafia & best lynch.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 09:35 GMT
#287
On March 17 2017 14:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's an early morning in Gotham City. The deep green sea sleeps silently. If you listen to it closely you can hear the sounds of reason and knowledge from it. Not everyone sleeps though. There are criminals on the loose and the batcave has been fully functional during the night. Batman is sitting in the coffee table. Robin is sitting in the toilet taking a shit. Alfred walks in with a pot of hot delicious coffee.

Alfred: "Sir, a rough night, huh?"
Batman: "Yes. We got a lead to the TV-station. There was the Who wants to be a millionaire show."
Alfred: "Mhm..."
Batman: "You know, the host gave a question. There is a formation of numbers, 1,2,3,4. What number comes next? Then we saw the possible answers. 7, 22, 19, 107."
Alfred: "But... those are all wrong?"
Batman: "Exactly. There is no point in a question where all the answers possible are wrong! That's when we ran to the stage."
Alfred: "Well I'll be DAMD...."

At this point Alfred gets interrupted by Robin walking into the room..

Robin (shouts): "Haha yes, and he was all RED when he left the stage!"
Batman (smiles and nods): "Well you know... If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it's
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Alfred pours more coffee to the cups. Batman drinks his coffee black. Robin puts about seven tablespoons of sugar into his coffee. Both Alfred and Batman look at each other and shake their heads simultaneously.... Then Alfred continues;

Alfred: "Sir, did you have a chance to look at today's newspaper?"
Batman: "No, what was special about it?"
Alfred: "There is a nice new blog!"

Alfred hands the paper to Batman. Batman opens page 254 and reads;

Show nested quote +
The ship of Jesters | Blog

Thö FInland män is tydei wierd. Normally Finland män laiks to kou tu sauna. Pat tydei nat. Hii kous tu sauna and ven juu throu paket of water onte roks tis is not vat Finland män das. Tydei hii throus water onte vool änd oolso throus te paket autof te windou. Is wierd. Meibi hii häd a potl ov vodka? Meibi hii vants tu kou tu sauna vit siikret vrends? Meibi vit mister M? Pat mister M is not intrested tudei. Tudei M vants to vander in thö forest änd took nonsens. Vits is veri wierd kos läst taim M vas veri intrested in throuving water onte roks. Hii vas in ouppen sauna kvalifaier änd very mats lavd throuving water vrom te pekinin. Nau veri samting els. Ai tink hii got strooperries vor diner. Veri laikli.


Alfred interrupts here...

Alfred: "Sir! It's the sign. They're sending it from the Plammer tower again! You need to get going!"

Batman *sighs*: "Again... Oh well let's go Robin!"

They both rush up and run to the batmobile.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

dada dada dada dada dada dada dada dada......

Creating this at the ungodly hour of 7 am makes you the hero this town deserves. You can be batman. I am going to have to be Alfred though. Robin doesn't work for me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 09:39 GMT
#288
On March 17 2017 17:57 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 14:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's an early morning in Gotham City. The deep green sea sleeps silently. If you listen to it closely you can hear the sounds of reason and knowledge from it. Not everyone sleeps though. There are criminals on the loose and the batcave has been fully functional during the night. Batman is sitting in the coffee table. Robin is sitting in the toilet taking a shit. Alfred walks in with a pot of hot delicious coffee.

Alfred: "Sir, a rough night, huh?"
Batman: "Yes. We got a lead to the TV-station. There was the Who wants to be a millionaire show."
Alfred: "Mhm..."
Batman: "You know, the host gave a question. There is a formation of numbers, 1,2,3,4. What number comes next? Then we saw the possible answers. 7, 22, 19, 107."
Alfred: "But... those are all wrong?"
Batman: "Exactly. There is no point in a question where all the answers possible are wrong! That's when we ran to the stage."
Alfred: "Well I'll be DAMD...."

At this point Alfred gets interrupted by Robin walking into the room..

Robin (shouts): "Haha yes, and he was all RED when he left the stage!"
Batman (smiles and nods): "Well you know... If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it's
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Alfred pours more coffee to the cups. Batman drinks his coffee black. Robin puts about seven tablespoons of sugar into his coffee. Both Alfred and Batman look at each other and shake their heads simultaneously.... Then Alfred continues;

Alfred: "Sir, did you have a chance to look at today's newspaper?"
Batman: "No, what was special about it?"
Alfred: "There is a nice new blog!"

Alfred hands the paper to Batman. Batman opens page 254 and reads;

The ship of Jesters | Blog

Thö FInland män is tydei wierd. Normally Finland män laiks to kou tu sauna. Pat tydei nat. Hii kous tu sauna and ven juu throu paket of water onte roks tis is not vat Finland män das. Tydei hii throus water onte vool änd oolso throus te paket autof te windou. Is wierd. Meibi hii häd a potl ov vodka? Meibi hii vants tu kou tu sauna vit siikret vrends? Meibi vit mister M? Pat mister M is not intrested tudei. Tudei M vants to vander in thö forest änd took nonsens. Vits is veri wierd kos läst taim M vas veri intrested in throuving water onte roks. Hii vas in ouppen sauna kvalifaier änd very mats lavd throuving water vrom te pekinin. Nau veri samting els. Ai tink hii got strooperries vor diner. Veri laikli.


Alfred interrupts here...

Alfred: "Sir! It's the sign. They're sending it from the Plammer tower again! You need to get going!"

Batman *sighs*: "Again... Oh well let's go Robin!"

They both rush up and run to the batmobile.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

dada dada dada dada dada dada dada dada......

Am I reading this right? Malongo is the Joker? I am the Penguin (based on the fact that you ppl seem to think going to bed at 00:00 when I have work next day makes me scum somehow)?

I can't see spoilers except the last one. But dafuq is this?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 09:39 GMT
#289
On March 17 2017 15:06 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 09:59 Damdred wrote:
Xata started as a gut read from his first playful banter. He generally as scum is pretty tense non fluid and kinda lacks much in the way of anything. I felt he was the opposite at the start, he flowed with the game thread was involved and tried to understand players.

I thought he looked town tbh.

Calix is a dick (lovable ) as town and is more free with the town reads. As scum hedges and is more middle of the road. Here really I involved even early trying to ferret out people. I liked it early and liked thebdickishness that was displayed towards koshi trying to get him to play.

Also for the record I think disf probably going to be town. Seems legit confused atvpoints, has time to back pedal and just explain and would get pressure off him but doesn't do it and just moved straight ahead. I still would like some explanation from him but yeahbi don't think scum woulddd play to bring that much attention to himself without trying to be it of him before he leaves. (Sorts bad read by hownibfeel)


A miracle....

Anyway, to me it felt exactly like he was trying to evade/deflect attention, but without being very successful. Then he left, which achieved that goal for the time being. So.. what does "moves straight ahead" mean?

This is actually a really good point if it is true.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 09:42 GMT
#290
On March 17 2017 18:07 disformation wrote:
Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)

in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started.


Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here.

Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you.

It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done.

##vote disformation

#selfmeta:
read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D


Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot.

So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol.

You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration.

Hmm not true. She is leaving you outs but you are not taking them. Which is very bad for you. Like... she is clearly trying to make you say something good, but you are not. Which makes her top town, and you very mafia. Town defends and attacks, mafia just defends.

##unvote
##vote disformation
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 09:42 GMT
#291
Yeah Calix is top town atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 09:45 GMT
#292
Hmm. I'm a bit disturbed that my biggest question to disfornation still remains unanswered. What gives?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 09:45 GMT
#293
Darthfoley, Malongo, Tumbleweed.

Not sure if I like Malongo. He is way better than what he did.
I might like darthfoley. He came in with a splash. A little splash. But it splashed.
Pretty sure I don't like Tumblewood. Extremely bad joke entrance. Weird townreads. Complaining about weird townreads.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 09:50 GMT
#294
On March 17 2017 18:45 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm. I'm a bit disturbed that my biggest question to disfornation still remains unanswered. What gives?

Can you focus on other things? What about our 3 visitors?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 09:53 GMT
#295
DeepBlueSea Where are you my friend?
I had a good night of sleep.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 17 2017 10:07 GMT
#296
This is kinda where I am at with reads.

Damdred
Xatalos

DeepBlueSea89
Koshi

+ Show Spoiler +
Even if you think Damdred/ Xatalos are mafia, they're still doing stuff and that's better than 90% of the players so killing them on D1 is sub-optimal play.


raynpelikoneet + Show Spoiler +
Mostly for his Batman post where he takes some stances on the players.


Malongo + Show Spoiler +
Initially liked his paranoia over the trains (having two tight wagons this early is notable) but would have to see more elaboration on this idea to tell for sure.


[Eden1892/ Onegu/ Rels] + Show Spoiler +
I don't consider claims to be AI.


Tumblewood + Show Spoiler +
I feel like his posts have more mafia motivation than the other nulls (e.g., popping in, giving some easy town-reads and then criticising Damdred's town circle - it's more of a mafia narrative than a town one atm but nothing definitive).


darthfoley + Show Spoiler +
I'm biased towards scum-reading darthfoley so I'll try to give him a fair shot when he appears again.

disformation + Show Spoiler +
Same here. I am going to let disformation do whatever and focus elsewhere for the time being.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 17 2017 10:23 GMT
#297
On March 17 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 18:45 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm. I'm a bit disturbed that my biggest question to disfornation still remains unanswered. What gives?

Can you focus on other things? What about our 3 visitors?


Not much of an impression of any of them. I remember Tumbleweed had a slightly worrying post where he complained about people being townread (even some that actually weren't?) without providing his own thoughts on the players. Foley seemed okay from what I remember. Nothing to judge their alignments with any confidence.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 10:32 GMT
#298
On March 17 2017 19:23 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:
On March 17 2017 18:45 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm. I'm a bit disturbed that my biggest question to disfornation still remains unanswered. What gives?

Can you focus on other things? What about our 3 visitors?


Not much of an impression of any of them. I remember Tumbleweed had a slightly worrying post where he complained about people being townread (even some that actually weren't?) without providing his own thoughts on the players. Foley seemed okay from what I remember. Nothing to judge their alignments with any confidence.

Yeah makes me uneasy. 4 people came in while disformation was getting hammered. None of them directly took a stance on him. That's bad. Maybe Malongo did.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 17 2017 10:33 GMT
#299
@disformation. Time to take some of those happy pills and play the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 10:50 GMT
#300
On March 17 2017 18:09 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 18:03 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:49 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.


Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter?

Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off.

I don't see how Damdred is comparable.

I have a huge problem with this post, as none of that makes me scum and calix knows this. context: she was a cohost in my last town game where I was super defensive and reacting bad to pressure a lot. I actually nuked myself in the end.

I kinda like that she put '' around the questioning, because the whole line of that was posting something about me that was not true and then scumreading me, when I call her out on that.
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On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

On March 17 2017 07:46 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 07:44 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

wtf that smiley thing was damdy and I already explained what i got from the filter.


Your tone seems hostile here which is uncalled for since all I did was ask if you had anything from your Xatalos filter-dive. I don't see how that warrants your 'wtf'


Can you guys explain your TR on her? Cause I think her push on me is a scum push and otherwise she only has posted a bunch, most of which ended in her calling everyone town or going nowhere.


Using a game where I already knew your alignment is retarded, especially as I am more used to seeing you in obs QT and not in-game. I also don't see how this makes you town as opposed to it being NAI.

I don't want an answer to that btw. Just stop bitching/ OMGUSing and actually contribute something. This would literally address half of my case against you which is that you're responding to people but not doing anything.

FWIW I picked up on you because it initially felt like you were blending, then when I was reading the chat, you stuck out to me due to your tone compared to everyone else and I pushed there. Simple stuff.

"most of which ended in her calling everyone town"

Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

btdt did the same thing (seeing that i am very defensive / don't react to pressure very well as host/cohost and then using it against me as scum) so i dont think it is retarded at all. shitty pushes on me generally come from scum more often that from town.

i thought your case against me was that you dont like my tone? where do you say that your problem is me not contributing anything?


K but I'm not pushing you to make you tilt. If you read, you'll see that I am literally asking you to contribute. Nice try at avoiding my request, can't answer it?

I said early on that you 'were on the defense a lot'. Looking at that now, I guess that doesn't really convey my "you're not contributing much of your own" point though.

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Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.


Are you scum-reading DF, for example? Do you have any opinions on Xatalos and Damdred? Damdred's train? Malongo not voting on the main trains? raynpelikoneet's latest post??? Like come on, this is basic-bitch-tier.

Seriously, you have 2 pages of filter and you have yet to do anything game-solving. Amazing. Meanwhile I - the supposed ""mafia"" - am running circles around your bitch arse.

yes DF is a scum lean, based on what i posted.
rayn is okay. more used to him being outspoken and direct and stuff, but he has been pointing out things he likes and dislikes. would like him to confirm/deny if I got his last post right though. damdred is like very high on my todo list for today. (yes you have read that correctly <3)
On March 17 2017 18:12 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read
2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads
3) "look how much work i already did"

if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place


You've never been mislynched and you know I know this yet you're trying to claim that you're 'weak'.

Calling bullshit. I was 100% the first person to scum-read you and the only person who really agrees with me is Xatalos.

The rest of your reasons are painting my actions in a scummy light with no backing. Try again.

So you saying my game has been "stronk" so far? Not sure what your other stuff relates to my other points. An example of the "look at how much work I already did" would be that post:
On March 17 2017 10:20 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 10:14 darthfoley wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:09 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
On March 17 2017 09:19 Malongo wrote:
On March 17 2017 09:15 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

I hate that quote.
##vote darthfoley


Reading the thread enough to vote, but not posting anything of substance.

#LurkModeInitiated


Is Raynpelikoneet also scummy to you? If not, why?


About as null as possible. The few times I have played with rayn, he's been NK N0/1, so maybe this trolling style is a way of furthering himself in the game.

You equated his playstyle with Koshi's in the scum QT last game, and I can kinda see the similarities: brash, in your face, takes charge etc. He's also quite good at it, so I don't really understand the scum!rayn motivation to trolling early on, unless he just doesn't give a shit for some reason. I always feel like mafia is in the best position if they control the topic of conversation, which he hasn't even tried to do. He's also not helping town at all, so although I have some theorycraft of optimal mafia play, he's super null


I also see it as null, just mildly annoying. It would be an extremely lame scum tactic but that's about it.

You seem to remember the scum Skype chat better than I do. I can't remember what I said in that, lol.

Also I'm pretty sure I am already hitting three pages with this post. I should probably go to bed soon and stop spamming.

On March 17 2017 18:13 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 18:07 disformation wrote:
Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here:
On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)

in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started.


Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here.

Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you.

It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done.

##vote disformation

#selfmeta:
read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D


Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot.

So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol.

You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration.


I've said about three times now that I am willing to reconsider if you ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.

You keep painting me as scum...instead of doing the something.

Given this, I really don't see how this makes sense from town POV.

well sry for calling your scummy push on me scummy (not really).


On March 17 2017 18:29 Koshi wrote:
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On March 17 2017 11:50 Onegu wrote:
I think there is a problem with my role PM...

It says VT.

Must be some sort of mistake for me to roll VT again.

I think hosts are just trolling me.

##unvote
##Vote Onegu

Obvious mafia & best lynch.

wut? isnt that super standard/NAI D1 oneg play?


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