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On March 17 2017 18:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 18:07 disformation wrote:Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here: On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)
in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started. Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here. Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you. It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done. ##vote disformation #selfmeta: read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot. So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol. You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration. Hmm not true. She is leaving you outs but you are not taking them. Which is very bad for you. Like... she is clearly trying to make you say something good, but you are not. Which makes her top town, and you very mafia. Town defends and attacks, mafia just defends. ##unvote
##vote disformation
Kinda disagree, but might be biased. But I guess I don't need to be worried by you soft defending me anymore.
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Okay last attempt to explain that xata thing.
I'll try to make it as clear as possible:
1. I read this post:
On March 17 2017 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Hello my sexy people.
I have miiiiiissed some of you very much.
As for my favorite alignment it would be scum, there is just more of a challenge with a good list of winning with scum than if your town and can coast in the same situation.
As for right now xata is scum.
##vote xatalos
And ask myself:
"Why is damdy scumreading Xata, did I miss something?"
2. I read Xatas posts
"uh nothing?"
3. I read Xatas posts
"uh still nothing?"
4. I read Xatas posts and go like "okay there has to be something?"
Only possibility for that is that something in Xatas reaction to the setup stuff is fishy. But I am like "this is super bleh, lets see what damdred tells Calix as she asked him this:"
On March 17 2017 07:16 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Hello my sexy people.
I have miiiiiissed some of you very much.
As for my favorite alignment it would be scum, there is just more of a challenge with a good list of winning with scum than if your town and can coast in the same situation.
As for right now xata is scum.
##vote xatalos Nice to see you too  What makes you think that? He hasn't even brought out the hedges...yet 
5. damdy replies:
On March 17 2017 07:21 Damdred wrote:
And we are at a junction where it is me or xata, it's obvious he's scum look at him using smiley face
6. i am like:
"wow thats even worse than what I got".
On March 17 2017 07:25 disformation wrote:
Was expecting something better tbh.
Like something about Eden baiting with setup talk and xata instantly being like "so to make it official: you are either bsing or are one of these blue roles?"
Note that I don't even attribute a single bit of scumminess to this, as I know that I just pulled that out of thin air in looking for a possible explanation for damdreds vote.
7. everyone blows up in my face
8. I think about whether damdy could be scum for his vote.
9. damdy posts:
On March 17 2017 07:29 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 07:27 Xatalos wrote:
I'm not really following the conversation here. I think dinformation is taking out votes seriously even though there is a voting thread.
10. I go *facepalm*
11. ppl keep asking me to explain that shit, even though I think I did
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Skimming some filters. Didn't like TW. Throws out some easy townreads (Malongo, Claix, DeepBlue) complains about the towncircle and doesn't comment on any of the wagons and/or the xata/damdy/me thing.
So scum lean very similar to DF.
Think DF is a tiny bit more scummy.
oneg/eden/rels are perfectly null.
rayn is a weak ass town lean. maybe better phrased as something between null and town.
koshi I got some weird vibes of these posts:
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.
On March 17 2017 08:55 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2. Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter? Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off. I don't see how Damdred is comparable. Yes. Disformation his filter is crappy. But is he mafia?
Hard to explain. I just think town koshi would be roasting me more. xD
but then we got:
On March 17 2017 18:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 18:07 disformation wrote:Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here: On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)
in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started. Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here. Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you. It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done. ##vote disformation #selfmeta: read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot. So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol. You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration. Hmm not true. She is leaving you outs but you are not taking them. Which is very bad for you. Like... she is clearly trying to make you say something good, but you are not. Which makes her top town, and you very mafia. Town defends and attacks, mafia just defends. ##unvote
##vote disformation
which sounds much more like something I expect from town!koshi.
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though i'd like koshi to explain why he switched from damdred to oneg like that.
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Hmm.... so you just pulled my "reaction" to Eden out of thin air? >.> Why?
And how is Damdred's reasoning worse than.... nothing pulled out of thin air? (granted, Damdred was joking, but you clearly thought he was serious back then)
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back to working.
random thought on xata though:
i dont think it would make sense for both xata and calix to be scum and go ham on me like that.
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Even after that explanation, I'm still kind of ???
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On March 17 2017 21:20 disformation wrote:
back to working.
random thought on xata though:
i dont think it would make sense for both xata and calix to be scum and go ham on me like that.
Question.
You have similar reads to myself. Has this factored into your analysis and if not, why?
Some of them are weirdly similar. Your TW read is almost identical to mine.
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On March 17 2017 21:19 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm.... so you just pulled my "reaction" to Eden out of thin air? >.> Why?
And how is Damdred's reasoning worse than.... nothing pulled out of thin air? (granted, Damdred was joking, but you clearly thought he was serious back then)
because I wanted to see if I can find the reason why damdred was scumreading you, as I thought he was serious, as you pointed out.
Since that would have possibly allowed me insight into your and/or damdies alignment.
So I was like really looking forward to see what damdy found... then he goes like "lol he posted a smiley, clearly scum" and I go "wat? I was expecting something real good, even my bleh stuff is better than _that_"
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But...... you literally had nothing, as you said the whole thing was pulled out of thin air? I just can't understand how you
1) made that post in the first place, describing I said things I didn't
2) even now consider that post as "weak evidence", even though you basically made it up
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I'm not even sure if this is alignment indicative anymore. Clearly something is broken in the communication.
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Ugh dunno. Like probably something got lost in me not getting that damdred was joking and then being super disappointed he had no super awesome read on you.
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On March 17 2017 21:23 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 21:20 disformation wrote:
back to working.
random thought on xata though:
i dont think it would make sense for both xata and calix to be scum and go ham on me like that. Question. You have similar reads to myself. Has this factored into your analysis and if not, why? Some of them are weirdly similar. Your TW read is almost identical to mine.
You are right, I actually liked your last list (minus me on it :p). Also basically everyone in the game besides me (which includes my town reads) seems to call you super town.
Fair chance i'm just in omgus land.
lemme think about a bit more after getting more work done.
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Mehh.... I'll keep my vote on you for the time being. I was hoping for some sort of logical explanation, but I guess it was just scum posting without genuine thought behind it (or town with a serious thought/communication meltdown - looking a bit more possible after all this.....).
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On March 17 2017 21:37 Xatalos wrote:
Mehh.... I'll keep my vote on you for the time being. I was hoping for some sort of logical explanation, but I guess it was just scum posting without genuine thought behind it (or town with a serious thought/communication meltdown - looking a bit more possible after all this.....).
Question: after me who would be your preferred lynch?
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Or ignoring me. or however you want to phrase it xD
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I'll look more closely once I'm home. Tentatively Tumble could be OK since the only impression I got of him was null/negative even though he posted some posts.
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I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.
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On March 17 2017 21:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'll look more closely once I'm home. Tentatively Tumble could be OK since the only impression I got of him was null/negative even though he posted some posts.
Fair enough.
Looking at Calix again I think this one explains one of the problems I had with her push on me:
On March 17 2017 18:09 Calix wrote:
I said early on that you 'were on the defense a lot'. Looking at that now, I guess that doesn't really convey my "you're not contributing much of your own" point though.
Together with the facts that a lot of ppl townread her and we share a lot of reads, I am getting fairly waffly.
meh. dunno. like not that sure anymore if she is scum pushing me or town pushing me. guess I would lynch a bunch of ppl before her. df, tw the three questions marks, maybe mal.
On March 17 2017 17:51 disformation wrote:Not a fan how DF mentions this: Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 09:22 darthfoley wrote:
actually nvm the op doesn't include letters regarding the setups. so maybe town points for trying to clarify what Eden meant? but then goes on to ignore xata/damdy/me
##vote: darthfoley
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On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying.
mal is fairly 50/50 to me.
On one hand I kinda like him coming in being like "your wagons suck, imma make my own wagon with black jack and coke", on the other nothing he really says has a whole lot of substance. Like incredible hard to tell if he is town, really not liking the wagons, or if he is scum not wanting to comment on them.
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