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On November 04 2016 02:43 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 02:28 darthfoley wrote:On November 04 2016 01:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Perhaps you have reads you would like to share? c: Sure I think Foreman is most town to me. My pyramid thing would go something like this TownForeman NU, Calix, Skynx Rels mahrgell, ExO, TT MafiaI have Rels null because he's yet to really engage the thread besides an early read pyramid. I want to hear why he "hated" my post, among other things. Can I get Calix's and your opinion of each other? I'm pretty sure you are townreading each other, yet continue to bicker and harp on the same points. I'd also like to hear what you think of Ticktock If you got "Calix and NU town-read each other" and "bicker and harp on the same points" at this point in time from us then you haven't been reading. I think he's mafia. I'm currently ignoring him until I'm prepared to re-evaluate him since he might just be a shitter. As you may have gathered, it's difficult for either of us to form an impartial read on the other. Also he irritates me and I'd rather play the game without dealing with that.
"I think he's mafia, so I will ignore the posts he makes that could make me think he's town."
NICE.
VOTE THIS.
I took my time (Scarce resource for me atm) to properly respond to her shitty cases without being toxic, and that's her answer. IGNORE.
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I'd also appreciate Foreman's reads when he gets a chance
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Okay... Can some of the people who Hard-Town Foreman explain their reasons to me?
I can't find them myself, but I would love some eye opener.
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Calix is 100% town-reading me now. There is NO WAY she still scum-reads me. She knows me well enough to know I am town.
She is scum-claiming by ignoring me and not dropping her read on me.
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On November 04 2016 02:44 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 23:59 Tictock wrote:On November 03 2016 23:35 Calix wrote:
Also I'd appreciate your opinion on Rels in that Newbie game since you were largely uninformed and all that. Honestly I don't really recall it was a bit too long ago, I'll go skim to refresh my memory though.
Ah, yea he seemed like obv town that game due to how gung-ho he was right off the bat and his interactions with Lunatic (and lunatic flipping scum) made it super obv he was town. I don't feel like comparing the games is a good way to read Rels though, I've seen him be lackluster as town when he doesn't have much time and super active and involved as scum when he does. Giving it more thought I might actually give Rels a slight townlean because as scum I think he'd be more worried about how he presents his reads, here it is more like he's just sharing what he's got so far. Ticktock says two lines before that you shouldn't compare games with Rels, because of his variability, then gives him a slight townlean based off of what can only be characterized as meta analysis off of previous games. Why would you think his scum play is likely to play out one way or another when you've just admitted that he has various playstyles? Again, I disagree. I consider the first line to be a metaanalysis on activity (= you cant meta him on activity).While the second is more of an analysis on general town/scumtraits. Imho you are just tunneling here, and try to spin things so they fit your foregone conclusion.
Yea this is a fairly accurate interpretation of what i was saying.
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On November 04 2016 02:48 mahrgell wrote:
Okay... Can some of the people who Hard-Town Foreman explain their reasons to me?
I can't find them myself, but I would love some eye opener.
I'm not one of the hard-town people, but your comment encouraged me to reread his filter.
And I just realised that he posted within the past two hours with a vote on Skynx. Meh.
A lot of his filter is stuff from yesterday and it's not as great as I thought. He can move down to a null read unless someone has a convincing argument either way.
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Calix calls me out for contradictions. When I ask her to point them out, she CANNOT provide quotes to support her claim.
In fact, she is the one who has contradicted herself the most this game.
Here, she says that ignoring is anti-town for players to ignore others because it shows that they do not want to reconsider their reads and that it favors tunneling. She even says that it is something she will try to avoid doing. YET, this is EXACTLY what she does. She ignores me completely, and is not willing to ever reconsider her read on me, despite the evidence of me being town and the lack of evidence for me being scum. BIG contradiction.
On November 03 2016 04:44 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:40 mahrgell wrote:On November 03 2016 04:35 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:32 mahrgell wrote:gosh Calix, can we please stop post synced? Also after what I read from you last game I'm afraid of myself, if I share your thoughts... I don't want to be like you  Sorry. It's ironic because you're insinuating that I am a bad player...but I'm pretty sure that you misinterpreted what Foreman said. He was calling me scum, not you. I am aware that he is only going after you. But as I share your concern regarding NU... And would like the same answer to be answered... He refuses to answer me, because he considers you to be scum. I don't agree on the policy of "I don't talk to who I consider scum". I consider this antitown, but I understand interpretations on this may differ. But I really dislike the policy of "I don't talk to you, because a player I consider to be scum shared your concerns". This is for sure antitown. So either he considers me scum too, or he is just antitown. Both conclusions are not really giving him any plus points in my book. It is extremely anti-town to ignore anyone save for red-checked players or the like. It shows that he is not willing to reconsider his reads and will be prone to tunnel-vision. (this is something I am specifically trying to avoid) I remain uncertain on Foreman. I'm inclined to scum-read him purely for his pathetic dismissal of my NU case (aka the most substantial post made this game) but I'm biased there as I think my case is pretty good. Furthermore, some of his posts have minor town-tells in them. (nothing convincing though) Concluding null as it stands.
On November 03 2016 21:42 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 21:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 21:38 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 21:37 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 21:34 Calix wrote:
#406 is mahrgell's best post that he's made. Actually really like it. lmao You who HATES meta-reads like a meta-read post. Eh, not surprised I guess. You did try to meta-read me this game and proved yourself a hypocrite once again. Why does that mean that other people can't use them? I said that it was his best post, not that I agree with meta reads. What is even the point of this post aside from to be antagonistic exactly? Point out the inconsistency in your narrative. There is no inconsistency and nothing you say will make it so. I'm not getting into an argument with you again so don't even try to start one. You're either mafia or toxic and both can be resolved by ignoring for the time being.
Here, she says that I am tamer when I am scum. Later, she says that my tone is abrasive and scum-reads me for it. Those are extreme opposites, and it shows another contradiction in her scum-read.
On November 03 2016 04:01 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:54 mahrgell wrote:On November 03 2016 03:30 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:26 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that. Your quote says "I agree WITH CALIX" which implies that I said "ExO being defensive is scummy" at some point. Clarify this now, please. I actually don't agree with the points you've made. ExO's defensive, that's as much as one can say on his subject. Offski. I for one do not like NU. His tone seems weird, he makes statements that are factually inaccurate/ putting words into my mouth and then retracts them when called out on them. I don't understand why. Given that he's just disappeared, I'll wait for a response before concluding anything for sure but he's giving me bad vibes at the moment. Well 1) I share NU's interpretation of what happened. 2) I appreciate his call for civil communication, from what I read in Cruisetrip he could have also easily heated up the fire without it looking worse than his usual play. 3) But I also agree with you, that it is weird for him to "buddy" you, by pretending you were sharing his self made points. I don't think there is much reason for him to try to appease you. With regards to Point 2, he is much tamer when he is scum. I'm not claiming that this is a 100% guaranteed tell (he is also busy and this has led to him being more subdued in the past) but it's in the back of my mind.
On November 03 2016 22:28 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 22:25 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 22:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 22:18 Skynx wrote:
No voting thread?
##Vote: NeverUnlucky "Vote for the longest filter" A) Wrong vote. B) There is 0 argument for me to be mafia. A) You did not read apparently, no one said you were mafia. My vote is to help you stfu. B) Please go ahead and find me one post with solid arguments about anyone being mafia. Amusingly enough, your STFU vote is on mafia. I'm scum-reading him largely due to multiple inconsistencies (e.g., breaking his promise to keep discussion civil, flip-flopping on his read of me with dodgy read progression, contradicting stances he has taken on matters in past (town) games, he suspects half the players in the game but claims that he's not 'throwing shade') and being unnecessarily abrasive at a time when town has a semi-productive atmosphere.
I'm still writing up a larger post on this so consider this a summary.
I will follow this up with a response of Calix’s case summary.
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On November 03 2016 22:28 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 22:25 Skynx wrote:On November 03 2016 22:20 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 22:18 Skynx wrote:
No voting thread?
##Vote: NeverUnlucky "Vote for the longest filter" A) Wrong vote. B) There is 0 argument for me to be mafia. A) You did not read apparently, no one said you were mafia. My vote is to help you stfu. B) Please go ahead and find me one post with solid arguments about anyone being mafia. Amusingly enough, your STFU vote is on mafia. I'm scum-reading him largely due to multiple inconsistencies (e.g., breaking his promise to keep discussion civil, flip-flopping on his read of me with dodgy read progression, contradicting stances he has taken on matters in past (town) games, he suspects half the players in the game but claims that he's not 'throwing shade') and being unnecessarily abrasive at a time when town has a semi-productive atmosphere. I'm still writing up a larger post on this so consider this a summary.
Breaking my ‘promise’ to keep discussion civil :
I have never made such a promise. It was the way I approached the game at first, trying to favor discussion by being civil. This is due to feedback I’ve received last game, and keeping a positive thread atmosphere being one of the three town leader ‘pillars’.
I also do not see why you are scum-reading me for this. I had a pro-town intention at the start of the game. There is even a progression in my posts showing how I went from ‘‘let’s be nice’’ to toxic. It’s not an inconsistency if there is clear progression of my mood/tone.
Flip-flopping my read on you :
Fair enough, though I’m kind of always doing that, so I don’t really think it’s AI.
Contradicting stances I’ve had in past town games :
Re : my previous post, you claim that I’ve done such thing, but fail to ever point it out. Claiming something does not make it true. Also, how the fuck do you want me to counter this point more than this if you cannot even support your own claim?
Suspecting half the players and claiming I am not throwing shade :
Suspecting players =/= throwing shade???????????? Throwing shade is giving faulty/shady reasoning for one to be scum, and I have not done that this game (except for you).
Once again, you fail to back-up your claim with tangible evidence.
I’m not sure if you’re also saying that me suspecting half the players is scummy, but if you are : how is it scummy for town to suspect half the players less than 12 hours into the game? How is this abnormal for me?
Being abrasive :
Re : my previous post, this is an inconsistency on your part as you claimed that my scum play was tamer.
How is me being abrasive an argument for you to sr me? If anything, it is an argument to tr judging on past games.
Town did not have a semi-productive atmosphere. It was 2 pages of NU is scum, and rhetorical NAI vs AI talk. That’s not productive.
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I really did not want to use this argument to prove that I am town, but since Cali xis hard tunneling and being really bad, I will make a fool of myself and make the obs chat have something to discuss for a while. 
Read at your own risks.
+ Show Spoiler +Yesterday, I skipped a class just to play mafia (not knowing that Calix was going to be a piss-off). Here is my schedule : ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/JycHut4.png) As you can see, I posted multiple times between 4 :30 – 6 :30 PM, hours in which I should have been in class. + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2016 05:45 NeverUnlucky wrote:Oh ha! I'm back ^^ Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:30 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:26 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that. Your quote says "I agree WITH CALIX" which implies that I said "ExO being defensive is scummy" at some point. Clarify this now, please. I actually don't agree with the points you've made. ExO's defensive, that's as much as one can say on his subject. Offski. I for one do not like NU. His tone seems weird, he makes statements that are factually inaccurate/ putting words into my mouth and then retracts them when called out on them. I don't understand why. Given that he's just disappeared, I'll wait for a response before concluding anything for sure but he's giving me bad vibes at the moment. Remember when you coached in that newbie game? I tried to be town's leader and create a positive atmosphere for everyone to participate. Yeah? Well, that's kind of what I'm trying to do here to. That's where the weird tone (It's even weird to me) comes from. If you want me to reiterate/put in other words what I said early on, I'd say that I don't like your "tap" on ExO, and don't like neither ExO nor you. I'll be obvious town, don't worry c: On November 03 2016 05:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:54 mahrgell wrote:On November 03 2016 03:30 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:26 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that. Your quote says "I agree WITH CALIX" which implies that I said "ExO being defensive is scummy" at some point. Clarify this now, please. I actually don't agree with the points you've made. ExO's defensive, that's as much as one can say on his subject. Offski. I for one do not like NU. His tone seems weird, he makes statements that are factually inaccurate/ putting words into my mouth and then retracts them when called out on them. I don't understand why. Given that he's just disappeared, I'll wait for a response before concluding anything for sure but he's giving me bad vibes at the moment. Well 1) I share NU's interpretation of what happened. 2) I appreciate his call for civil communication, from what I read in Cruisetrip he could have also easily heated up the fire without it looking worse than his usual play. 3) But I also agree with you, that it is weird for him to "buddy" you, by pretending you were sharing his self made points. I don't think there is much reason for him to try to appease you. 3) I am not attempting to buddy Calix at all right now. You read CTM, you know how I interact with her when I town-read her. I did not mean to pretend she shared my point on ExO nor did I mean to "appease" Calix. Such thing is impossible. On November 03 2016 06:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:Oh, god! Guys, could you at least wait for me to be here so you don't make factually incorrect claims about my meta? :/ Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:01 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:54 mahrgell wrote:On November 03 2016 03:30 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:26 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that. Your quote says "I agree WITH CALIX" which implies that I said "ExO being defensive is scummy" at some point. Clarify this now, please. I actually don't agree with the points you've made. ExO's defensive, that's as much as one can say on his subject. Offski. I for one do not like NU. His tone seems weird, he makes statements that are factually inaccurate/ putting words into my mouth and then retracts them when called out on them. I don't understand why. Given that he's just disappeared, I'll wait for a response before concluding anything for sure but he's giving me bad vibes at the moment. Well 1) I share NU's interpretation of what happened. 2) I appreciate his call for civil communication, from what I read in Cruisetrip he could have also easily heated up the fire without it looking worse than his usual play. 3) But I also agree with you, that it is weird for him to "buddy" you, by pretending you were sharing his self made points. I don't think there is much reason for him to try to appease you. With regards to Point 2, he is much tamer when he is scum. I'm not claiming that this is a 100% guaranteed tell (he is also busy and this has led to him being more subdued in the past) but it's in the back of my mind. Well in my opinion, this is how it went down: - He asks why ExO is being overly defensive. - I call ExO anti-town. - He misrepresented my positions by claiming that he agreed that I was a) scum-reading ExO and b) scum-reading ExO due to being overly defensive. - I ask him where he interpreted this from as those are not my positions. - He denies claiming this. - I tell him that he literally said in his quote "I agree with Calix" This is where the scummy part is. He immediately backtracks from that position by saying "well I don't agree" and leaves it at that. That's scummy because this progression could be NU trying to plant ideas inside of my head without actually taking responsibility for having the idea. This is a compelling explanation because the ExO/ Calix discussion was still going on at this time. Thus, it's possible that he was trying to manipulate me into agreeing that ExO's behaviour is scummy. It's also possible because I am well-known for getting myself into tunnels so I am a viable target. So yeah, discuss and all that. It is wrong that I am tamer as scum. Calix, you've read my latest scum game, you would know that I throw shade and throw shade as scum. I power-wolf. Here, I am trying to be civil and have everyone participate. Last game, in the obs QT, Shapelog mentioned 3-4 times that I was a nuisance to the thread atmosphere. It's clear that this is what team NU is trying to fix here. I could shitpost just like last game and call everyone bad, but that wouldn't fix the problem, right? I rephrased what I had meant two posts ago. What you depicted in this quote is not what I meant/what happened. How is it scummy though? Like, just last game you were calling me scum for claiming to be mod-confirmable, then when HF questioned you, you backtracked. It's actually pro-town. The bolded part stuns me. I'm trying my best not to bash you on it. Same for this whole post you just made on me. I said that I did not like your push, how did you make this leap to think that I was being deceptive into fueling your tunnel? On November 03 2016 06:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 04:09 mahrgell wrote:On November 03 2016 04:01 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:54 mahrgell wrote:On November 03 2016 03:30 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:26 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!
I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!
Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c: I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous. I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from? I said that. Your quote says "I agree WITH CALIX" which implies that I said "ExO being defensive is scummy" at some point. Clarify this now, please. I actually don't agree with the points you've made. ExO's defensive, that's as much as one can say on his subject. Offski. I for one do not like NU. His tone seems weird, he makes statements that are factually inaccurate/ putting words into my mouth and then retracts them when called out on them. I don't understand why. Given that he's just disappeared, I'll wait for a response before concluding anything for sure but he's giving me bad vibes at the moment. Well 1) I share NU's interpretation of what happened. 2) I appreciate his call for civil communication, from what I read in Cruisetrip he could have also easily heated up the fire without it looking worse than his usual play. 3) But I also agree with you, that it is weird for him to "buddy" you, by pretending you were sharing his self made points. I don't think there is much reason for him to try to appease you. + Show Spoiler +
With regards to Point 2, he is much tamer when he is scum. I'm not claiming that this is a 100% guaranteed tell (he is also busy and this has led to him being more subdued in the past) but it's in the back of my mind.
Well in my opinion, this is how it went down:
- He asks why ExO is being overly defensive.
- I call ExO anti-town.
- He misrepresented my positions by claiming that he agreed that I was a) scum-reading ExO and b) scum-reading ExO due to being overly defensive.
- I ask him where he interpreted this from as those are not my positions.
- He denies claiming this.
- I tell him that he literally said in his quote "I agree with Calix"
This is where the scummy part is. He immediately backtracks from that position by saying "well I don't agree" and leaves it at that.
That's scummy because this progression could be NU trying to plant ideas inside of my head without actually taking responsibility for having the idea.
This is a compelling explanation because the ExO/ Calix discussion was still going on at this time. Thus, it's possible that he was trying to manipulate me into agreeing that ExO's behaviour is scummy.
It's also possible because I am well-known for getting myself into tunnels so I am a viable target.
So yeah, discuss and all that.
Yes, this is pretty much my 3). I fully agree with you here. Also he started voting Exo. Now of course he will most likely tell us, that he pregame announced he was PL'ing gifs. But that is just the same category as the usual "totally busy, won't post" pregame crap... Nice excuse if you roll mafia, and who cares if you don't do it and roll town. From a townie I would expect a calmer attitude instead of throwing votes on someone who posted one textpost and one gif. He could have easily stayed on Exo and push that lynch, if there is some movement. Or he could stay there, if he doesn't want to vote a scumbuddy... Or he could just switch as easy.... Overall... Not liking it. But let's wait for NU to explain himself. I don't make excuses for my play. I am really going to be busy until Nov 7. Calix can confirm that I mentioned this in the Dota 2 Obs QT. Busy NU is still more active than most people around here, so it should not be a problem. I don't understand what you are pushing when you bring up my ExO vote and my being busy. My attitude was calm. What made you think otherwise? I am still on ExO though. I will change my vote sometime because he seems to have stopped posting gifs (Page 9 anyways), and that was the reason I was voting him for. "He could have easily stayed on Exo and push that lynch, if there is some movement. Or he could stay there, if he doesn't want to vote a scumbuddy... Or he could just switch as easy...." I really don't understand why you posted this. You are not bringing anything to the table by doing so. It looks pretty scummy to me. Etc. I would not have skipped class if I had rolled mafia is what I’m saying. :3
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Also, I townslipped pretty hard earlier in the thread. If Calix still scum-reads me when she gets back, she is scum-claiming.
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On November 04 2016 02:57 darthfoley wrote:
I see your point. Meh
What point?
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is NU just reposting his old posts?
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The point about the Rels meta thing.
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On November 04 2016 02:48 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 02:43 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 02:28 darthfoley wrote:On November 04 2016 01:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Perhaps you have reads you would like to share? c: Sure I think Foreman is most town to me. My pyramid thing would go something like this TownForeman NU, Calix, Skynx Rels mahrgell, ExO, TT MafiaI have Rels null because he's yet to really engage the thread besides an early read pyramid. I want to hear why he "hated" my post, among other things. Can I get Calix's and your opinion of each other? I'm pretty sure you are townreading each other, yet continue to bicker and harp on the same points. I'd also like to hear what you think of Ticktock If you got "Calix and NU town-read each other" and "bicker and harp on the same points" at this point in time from us then you haven't been reading. I think he's mafia. I'm currently ignoring him until I'm prepared to re-evaluate him since he might just be a shitter. As you may have gathered, it's difficult for either of us to form an impartial read on the other. Also he irritates me and I'd rather play the game without dealing with that. "I think he's mafia, so I will ignore the posts he makes that could make me think he's town." NICE. VOTE THIS. I took my time (Scarce resource for me atm) to properly respond to her shitty cases without being toxic, and that's her answer. IGNORE.
NU, I suggest you actually do the same thing as Calix said she was doing.
Take a step back, go do something else. Come back to the game and ignore Calix for a bit.
Re-evaluate when you are less likely to jump on the OMGUS train or just stay confirm biased.
Right now you are just blowing up every little thing you take issue with and are warping what was said to fit your thinking.
Calis didn't say "I think he's mafia, so I will ignore the posts he makes that could make me think he's town." she basically said, "I think he's mafia but I want to ignore his posts for now so I can evaluate him later more objectively"
Like I've said a couple of times already the two of you get so riled up over how you treat each other it makes half of what you say meaningless.
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If ExO continues to be this underwhelming and inactivate I think I'd be okay with an exO lynch
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On November 04 2016 02:59 mahrgell wrote:
is NU just reposting his old posts?
Yes. I will irritate Calix for the sake of it until she responds to my posts.
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On November 04 2016 02:59 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 02:48 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 02:43 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 02:28 darthfoley wrote:On November 04 2016 01:53 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Perhaps you have reads you would like to share? c: Sure I think Foreman is most town to me. My pyramid thing would go something like this TownForeman NU, Calix, Skynx Rels mahrgell, ExO, TT MafiaI have Rels null because he's yet to really engage the thread besides an early read pyramid. I want to hear why he "hated" my post, among other things. Can I get Calix's and your opinion of each other? I'm pretty sure you are townreading each other, yet continue to bicker and harp on the same points. I'd also like to hear what you think of Ticktock If you got "Calix and NU town-read each other" and "bicker and harp on the same points" at this point in time from us then you haven't been reading. I think he's mafia. I'm currently ignoring him until I'm prepared to re-evaluate him since he might just be a shitter. As you may have gathered, it's difficult for either of us to form an impartial read on the other. Also he irritates me and I'd rather play the game without dealing with that. "I think he's mafia, so I will ignore the posts he makes that could make me think he's town." NICE. VOTE THIS. I took my time (Scarce resource for me atm) to properly respond to her shitty cases without being toxic, and that's her answer. IGNORE. NU, I suggest you actually do the same thing as Calix said she was doing. Take a step back, go do something else. Come back to the game and ignore Calix for a bit. Re-evaluate when you are less likely to jump on the OMGUS train or just stay confirm biased. Right now you are just blowing up every little thing you take issue with and are warping what was said to fit your thinking. Calis didn't say "I think he's mafia, so I will ignore the posts he makes that could make me think he's town." she basically said, "I think he's mafia but I want to ignore his posts for now so I can evaluate him later more objectively" Like I've said a couple of times already the two of you get so riled up over how you treat each other it makes half of what you say meaningless.
Don't give a shit. She makes a shitty case, I make a very decent response, and she doesn't even read it /acknowledge it while I was stuck having to deal with the shit she gave me.
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Like I've said a couple of times already the two of you get so riled up over how you treat each other it makes half of what you say meaningless.
Especially when most of it basically boils down to stuff like this...
"He put words in my mounth! That scummy bastard!"
"OMG how can she scum read me, that scummy bitch!"
"He said an illogical thing! Scum!"
"She is ignoring me! Scum!"
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