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On September 08 2016 03:40 Damdred wrote: Rels I am glad I finally get to play in your masterpiece let it be epic and roll Palmar mafia again Isnt it time town wins one? | ||
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On September 09 2016 17:23 Superbia wrote: Palmar is going to come into the thread and agree with my reads in: Little do you know that I'm not going to read the thread | ||
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someone else figure out for me if superbia's plan makes sense I really, really cba. | ||
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also I guess I'm reading the OP. | ||
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Wish Manipulator: Spectral (can be used even if dead). Twice per game during the day, you can manipulate the vote of one spectral faction (ghosts or spirits). You need to activate this ability before the end of the previous night. You cannot use both charges the same day. technically, the necromancer can't do jack shit tonight, because there was no previous night. | ||
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yeah your plan is bad and you should feel bad. Necromancer basically invalidates all vengeful spirit checks for day2 and day3. On day4 the vengeful spirit check becomes reliable. Day 1 there is no vengeful spirit check. Day 2, if we killed a townie day 1, there is a vengeful spirit check, but the vengeful spirit cannot communicate his results to the town because the only way to communicate for the VS is to stick a vote that will appear 1h before the deadline on their target (and hell, if VS gets a green check that's also gonna be rough to work around, I suppose we could designate a "this guy looks town" and if the vote is on him it means the VS got a green?). However, the Necromancer overwrites the vote on day 2, controlling where the VS vote ends up. Day 3, same as day 2, unless the necro decides not to use his thing, which would probably be stupid. It's probably best for scum to just use that ability to limit town information as long as possible. Day 4 in theory the necro's 2 shot ability is gone, so finally now you can semi-safely assume that if the VS votes someone, the VS have a red check. And if we haven't killed any mafia by then we're in lylo so w/e. | ||
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I don't get it if VS KPs on n1, it's just a blind vigilante shot if VS checks on n1 then tries to kp on n2, we get a kill but there's like a million things that can go wrong 1) the VS might get a green check n1 2) there is a framer so the check may be wrong 3) The mafia has a doctor I think the best tactic is just to lynch mafia and use the VS thing as sort of a "backup" plan. Actually now that I think about it it makes perfect sense. At BEST we kill mafia day 1 At WORST we execute your VS plan with whoever got lynched as town day 1. | ||
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On September 09 2016 19:14 Superbia wrote: For every town we lynch we get a town KP as well. And the VS have a QT to share info in. No, you get 1 kp throughout the game... I think? | ||
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with the power of the tl mafia db I have exposed you. | ||
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#1 player Any publicity is good publicity | ||
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On September 09 2016 19:31 Grackaroni wrote: That's just data entry error. It happens sometimes. Computer is never wrong. | ||
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On September 10 2016 00:04 Skynx wrote: But but... how can I read the thread if I have to answer your spam here while your only argument is i'm not trying? Hmmmmm easy solution, don't read the thread. I usually mostly read my own filter because I like reading clever things. | ||
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Both the new people are in the townpile | ||
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On September 10 2016 00:11 Calix wrote: Already explained my scum reads. Not hurling up a reads list for the hell of it when all that does is give scum more information than necessary on how I operate. Just when I thought you were smart. | ||
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On September 10 2016 00:12 Holyflare wrote: But what are your reads though? | ||
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Or maybe I can just do the same thing as with TW and find like a single post that sounds kinda dumb. But we must maintain sustainable effort levels. | ||
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I like my reads to be edgy, because I'm edgy as fuck. So idk | ||
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On September 10 2016 00:23 NeverUnlucky wrote: javascript:addUBB_selected('reply_area', 'quote') attempting to cheat, noted. | ||
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I'm probably going to: a) sheep hf b) lynch hf That seems like the most reasonable plan. I'll maybe read a post or two by him later | ||
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On September 11 2016 01:54 Damdred wrote: It's cause I'm town and the scum team is scared of me. Boo. Also think palmar might be town rip the dream. clearly TMI, scum. | ||
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also who starts a game on a weekend, I wonder if we can lynch host | ||
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I think HF is town based on a) sounding like a raging hammer of justice at some point and b) effort. Damdred is whatever. I always think he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia here. But then again, I always think he's mafia. I don't wanna lynch damdred mostly because I know he's good and can be useful at some point. I need him to impress me a bit more though. | ||
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Basically I need him to make a good case or good point at some point. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:25 Tumblewood wrote: both your a and b are normal Hf things for both alignments. Hello, my name is Pálmar. I've played like 30 games with holyflare. I am aware of how he plays, but thanks for the information. I can tell the difference between faking it and meaning it. I think. Maybe. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:25 Calix wrote: Effort is NAI. Your Damdred read is super waffley. "I always think that he's mafia but he actually looks like mafia but I always think that he's mafia" (this is basically what you said but my point is that you didn't actually SAY anything here) Useful...also not a town tell. You guys have some weird town tells, eh? welcome to TL, we all know each other really well. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:28 Calix wrote: I'm not saying sheeping is bad, but when an entire train is almost entirely sheep-votes, there's a problem. Hardly anyone else has managed to get anywhere near the number of sheep votes as TT has. (that's because it's HF driving the train, he's the second best day 1 scumhunter in the game. Unless you think he's mafia, it's usually a good idea to sheep him) | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:31 Holyflare wrote: The most egocentric player focuses reads based around himself and his case? Oh shit. second most. | ||
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why is TT scum? (you can link to a post or just answer, but short pls cause attention span low, I am killing aliens in a boardgame too). | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:39 Tumblewood wrote: and can someone + Show Spoiler [cough cough] + superbia tw is scum -> vote tw -> fuck off for 36 hours -> guys vote tt superbia has at least one good reason to think he's town, trying to break the game for town. That was genuinely him being retarded I think. He got really excited about that shit. | ||
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for disobedience, I like it. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:44 Grackaroni wrote: You still aren't reading. I'm going to be annoyed if you don't leave any comment on what I've wrote. yeah I keep meaning to but it's just so hard to do it. I literally have the tab open but everything is more interesting than reading 3 pages of HF diatribe | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:49 Tumblewood wrote: u literally fakeclaimed cop to get a lynch through and after the flip claimed that was a lie yeah it's retarded but we love it anyway | ||
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It's not the "YEAH LET'S BURN DAMDRED AND LYNCH HIM" but rather "I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped either alignment, but whatever I have few reasons to townread him" Which sure, we can do, but I'm going to give this a shot rather. | ||
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Yeah this is a good lynch. | ||
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On September 11 2016 04:59 Tumblewood wrote: I know lynching for information is the devil, but I really want to lynch into tt or Hf today given that the entire game revolves around Hf & the sheeps vs tt & the chainsaws this is a terrible post. not sure if it's mafia or town, but it's terrible. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:05 Damdred wrote: Most of the time I just control f Damdred see what comes up. Skip over the unimportant things, you know. Learning from the best. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:08 Calix wrote: Oh for fuck's sake. This train is woeful and everyone is just content to slap a vote down >_> It's not about that. Tictock is objectively scummy. He did that thing in the early game with the scumclaim. That's fine and all, and loads of people do it, but the only way it ever works out for town is if you then follow up by looking at the people who react to it. He did very little analysis following the claim. He also did the whole "I'll talk more after dinner" and then disappeared. If he had just disappeared it wouldn't have meant anything, but because he claimed he'd be back it's clear he wanted to appear as if he was contributing. Neither of these make him lock mafia, but both of them, combined with his short filter and poorly explained reads make him a pretty solid day 1 lynch. He is a high % mafia target. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:16 Grackaroni wrote: You and I both do this all of the time with absolutely no "analysis following the claim." I generally do this as mafia tbh. And no I almost always intend to stick around and see what happens. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:17 Calix wrote: I mean I can see the "scum bussing their more useless ally" as a thing but the only person who is trying to take the credit for the TT lynch is HF and if you think HF is bussing then voting HF makes more sense than voting TT by proxy. (I know you are voting HF, I am just talking generally) If I'm mafia with TT here, I sheep hf's wagon just like I'm doing now, hell I even come up with semi-independent reasons like I'm doing now. The entire point is that IF hf is town, no mafia team is going to risk defending TT here. This means that a) TT could very well be mafia and b) the people defending him if he is, do not have to be mafia (in fact I'd argue that people actually trying to pull away from the lynch are more likely to be town). | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:24 Calix wrote: "If I'm mafia" - Stopped reading because self-meta on your scum game is useless when you are obviously aware of it and can change how you act accordingly. And since I'm the person who is hardcore defending TT, that parenthesis part could be a subtle pocketing attempt from you. I don't think I can do anything about TT's train. Nobody seems to find anything I say worth listening to. To be honest, I have almost 100% rate of figuring out my own alignment, so maybe you should listen to my self-meta | ||
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he's #1 townread. | ||
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##vote Tumblewood | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:51 Grackaroni wrote: The slip is so stupid. He literally said in the post before "IF HF IS TOWN' quiet boy instead of being shithead, switch with me. step back please, I'm going to do science. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:52 Superbia wrote: I'm actually going to be disappointed if TT flips mafia. it certainly will make the game a lot less interesting. | ||
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On September 11 2016 05:54 Grackaroni wrote: Ok We're at 5-3 now. 2 more votes and we're at dead HF. I offer my undying love to anyone who votes HF, regardless of HF's alignment. this is the most tempting offer in the universe, if only to make hf mad. But town needs to win one, so I'm holding back my inner retardation. | ||
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if so switch to tumble | ||
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it's the best idea | ||
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no idea, it's still the best idea. | ||
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I might contribute on monday. | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:03 Skynx wrote: Oi sush you you were supposed to be afk til monday. You're not my mom | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:04 Calix wrote: Please tell us more about your self-aware paranoiak read, sir. No, later. Don't worry, just lynch scum and you'll be fine. I actually thought I decided against posting that, but I must've hit post. Pretend you didn't read it and I'm townreading you 100%. Could you do that for me? Please? | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:07 Damdred wrote: We both believed in the same lynch, I'm not able to be as active as either of us want. You should,know I'm town by now honestly There are some reasons to think you're mafia so calm down bro a) you haven't said anything super smart and insightful b) you have been background-y c) your sass has been almost over the top. You aren't queen enough to act like you're me | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:07 Skynx wrote: Sure hun, maybe I will actually take you serious soon. + Show Spoiler + (Soon is the key word here) scumpile | ||
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All his posts come at awkward times (like him casually dropping by while superbia and I were figuring out the mechanics, and most of his EOD posts), but he posts them like he's the king of the world and directly to me which means he's not afraid of me, which is something. | ||
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Actually, the Pro-Tip is to just maintain a document that acts as your will and update it regularly. That's totally what I'd be doing if I wasn't lazy. | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:14 Calix wrote: Maybe if you actually did something, I'd be more inclined to not laugh at you whenever you post, hun. talking to me? | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:17 Calix wrote: Everyone else is doing stuff, so yes. You are randomly talking about Grack and LWs and not being that engaged with the current discussion. What gives? I don't know what the current discussion is, so I'm talking about things I like to talk about. | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:19 Calix wrote: You are claiming to have missed the Skynx-Shapelog-Damdred-HF-TW posting that took place over the past few hours. Legit. can you summarize or do I have to go back and read? | ||
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Noted. | ||
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On September 11 2016 23:29 Damdred wrote: And as for palmar well he is probably top 5 player if you can get him to do things. He might fall out of top 10 soon rip that hurts, but you'll be forgiven if you flip scum | ||
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On September 12 2016 08:00 NeverUnlucky wrote: idk, thats what Skynx said. He knows Plamar better than me. Skynx is mafia, you probably shouldn't listen to him. | ||
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But meh | ||
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But he's probably just scum so whatever. Should've switched with me last night. Clearly I was ahead of the curve. | ||
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Pro-tip: not one of them is doing stuff on their own. ok maybe not 100%, but it'd be awesome. On September 12 2016 10:25 Grackaroni wrote: If Palmar doesn't do anything tomorrow we kill him. On September 12 2016 06:56 Vivax wrote: Tbh I'm mostly waiting for Palmar to most something super smart, today I have enacted my zero tolerance policy for vets (fascist policy). If we enact more of these fascist policies we get to shoot Palmar, who I think could be Hitler, and outright win this game. Curse that last will for making me think all of this. On September 11 2016 03:14 Damdred wrote: Palmar can have a date with the noose Monday but not really going to consider him on a weekend and that's the main reason. | ||
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On September 11 2016 06:17 Damdred wrote: Palmar hopping off like he did could be distancing and trying not to get to Mich attention but I am unsure of that. This is one of the worst quotes in the game. There is no way Damdred believes I am bad enough to think that somehow randomly jumping off a wagon would actually work as distancing. I was for the TT lynch, it was even a pretty good lynch. But I had good reason to move to TW. scumpile | ||
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On September 12 2016 09:07 Tumblewood wrote: the premise of this argument is that hf is scum. using the premise as backup, we can easily conclude that hf is indeed scum. anyway known to some as holyflare, to others as hf, to his rl friends by some stupid rl name, but to tl as lynchbait slayer. first, I propose a question to you, reader: can you make an accurate read on someone based off of just five posts? the answer is no, holyflare. no. this is basic stuff. honestly. tt doesn't have a meta like marv of making 2 posts and then quitting as scum. that doesn't even matter though, because the basis of hf's attack was completely unrelated to the fact that tt was afk. it was, in fact, a dissection of tt's five total posts. and not a point about how he was a great policy lynch for his lack of posting. hmmm throughout the game, hf shows a willingness to favor painting every road as leading to tt is scum over thinking critically about his alignment, and generally not being a jackass. you might expect that this case would have quotes, but hf's filter is probably 50 million pages and also my arguments that involve quotes usually result in me missing the point of the argument or, worse, doubting my original read. this is a reminder to go read grack's case. it is better. hf also shows an amazing willingness to call obviously townie people scum for not getting onto his stupid wagon his filter is 95% devoted to lynching townies if that says anything. ... god, I can't do this anymore. I don't think this is a lost cause, but my entire case, I think, hinges on me being town. honestly, try being me and it's really fucking easy to see how hf is scum. this is why I don't make big scum cases This is terrible and I'll break down why: On September 12 2016 09:07 Tumblewood wrote: first, I propose a question to you, reader: can you make an accurate read on someone based off of just five posts? the answer is no, holyflare. no. Actually you can. In most cases it's a single post or two where mafia fucks up that allows you to make a case. No mafia is bad enough to give himself away every single post he makes. This is why I generally ignore humongous cases that quote almost every post by someone and try to paint them scummy. It's very easy to make an accurate read on someone on even a single post (see me vs marv in some game and me vs tnkted in some other game, cba referencing). On September 12 2016 09:07 Tumblewood wrote: this is basic stuff. honestly. tt doesn't have a meta like marv of making 2 posts and then quitting as scum. that doesn't even matter though, because the basis of hf's attack was completely unrelated to the fact that tt was afk. it was, in fact, a dissection of tt's five total posts. and not a point about how he was a great policy lynch for his lack of posting. hmmm throughout the game, hf shows a willingness to favor painting every road as leading to tt is scum over thinking critically about his alignment, and generally not being a jackass. TT did things that are objectively scummy, I don't care what you think about meta or history. I generally don't use meta all that much. Here's my own interpretation of TT's filter. On September 11 2016 05:14 Palmar wrote: It's not about that. Tictock is objectively scummy. He did that thing in the early game with the scumclaim. That's fine and all, and loads of people do it, but the only way it ever works out for town is if you then follow up by looking at the people who react to it. He did very little analysis following the claim. He also did the whole "I'll talk more after dinner" and then disappeared. If he had just disappeared it wouldn't have meant anything, but because he claimed he'd be back it's clear he wanted to appear as if he was contributing. Neither of these make him lock mafia, but both of them, combined with his short filter and poorly explained reads make him a pretty solid day 1 lynch. He is a high % mafia target. Notice that none of this is "meta" or takes into account how he acts as a player. I just don't care about meta. Sometimes I'm wrong because of it (I once lynched kush in lylo for refusing to post coherently and putting in effort), but most of the times it's very effective. On September 12 2016 09:07 Tumblewood wrote: you might expect that this case would have quotes, but hf's filter is probably 50 million pages and also my arguments that involve quotes usually result in me missing the point of the argument or, worse, doubting my original read. If you are town you should. If you are correct, you wouldn't have a reason to doubt your read, and if you are wrong you might realize why. But I guess that would require pretending to put in effort. I'm not even 100% sure you're mafia TW, but you are objectively the best lynch. You've made a bunch of terrible posts, you're not pushing the game forward, there's even dumb reasons to think you're scum (no one wanted to switch with me on d1) This is almost written as sort of an offer to let you redeem yourself. If you are town, you need to put in time and effort. Go write analysis or thoughts on every player in the game. Pro-Tip: if you're mafia make sure you're careful when you write about your buddies  | ||
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Current townreads are (from strongest to weakest) NeverUnlucky, Superbia, Holyflare. I need at least 2-3 more if this lynch is meant to have any chance of succeeding. So go forth and act like townies my minions. | ||
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On September 12 2016 22:52 Damdred wrote: Eh I was starting to do some work in game but i really don't want to today, I guess i'll do it later when i feel motivated. In any case kind of stinks that people who know me well think i would make such a bad kill as scum instead of someone who can actually get me lynched meh. That's bullshit logic Damdred. | ||
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On September 12 2016 23:13 Damdred wrote: Well yeah its wifom, whatever just really don't feel up to doing anything today. Don't care (much) about lazy, care a lot about shitty logic. | ||
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On September 12 2016 23:20 Tumblewood wrote: fuck that. writing analysis is by far the worst part of my game. any case with more than one point goes down the shitter. fortunately I don't actually have to play by your rules Fine, get lynched then. I don't care if your meta is always being useless, that's scum favored meta and you should be lynched for it. Who knows when you're useless AND scum. Maybe it's this time! Hell, it's probably this time. | ||
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On September 12 2016 23:22 Superbia wrote: Does anyone have an actual opinion on fuba btw? He pops in and gives sort of "status updates". It's a semi-scummy way to play but the little content I've read has been fine. I wish he would actually engage someone when he's in the thread, instead of just posting what feels like news pieces from fubaworld. I don't know and I don't really care until I have a reason to lynch someone other than TW. | ||
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On September 12 2016 23:27 Tumblewood wrote: don't know how you can really say I am being useless. if we're going by whatever bullshit metric you use about ten players are useless this game. I am one of the most present, least useless players in the game. Quit whining and do your job and maybe everything will be fine. Yes, there's a ton of people who are useless. You are currently the one I'm lynching, so prove that someone else deserves to be lynched. Write a case that convinces me! It's how mafia goes. | ||
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On September 12 2016 23:30 Damdred wrote: Its not logic its just the truth, you kill the people you think will most likely solve the game. Its not really a point either way. by that logic no one is mafia. Good job damdred, game solved. | ||
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You can write cases, now do more, and make it more edgy this time than calling the most active player in the game town at a point where she was in no danger of being lynched. | ||
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If people use bad logic to try to support faulty conclusions meant to affect people's game, I call them out. | ||
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I'm sort of trying to reassess the game. Basically here's where I stand: Townie/semi-townie people: Superbia: He has somewhat taken advantage of pretty solid townread on day 1 by not doing much today, but it isn't really all that, and not to mention I was very, very certain he was town on day 1. The reason for the townread is very simple, he thought he broke the game, he was excited about having broken the game and he genuinely wanted to kill himself to apply his plan. Sure, this can be faked, but it requires more planning and anticipation than I'm generally willing to assume scum do, even someone who is pretty good at scum like Superbia. NeverUnlucky: He has a pain in people's ass since the beginning of the game, he's confrontational and makes a lot of weird conclusions. For example, I think him trying to crack the code from scott sounded like a townie who genuinely thought he had found some relevant information. Holyflare: much less sure, but activity and consistency is good enough. Also, I'm fairly sure if he was scum he would have started calling me mafia by now, although I may be wrong on that one. He just really likes to argue and he knows I'm a perfect target to get into a shitfight with. He sounded like a townie on day 1, his case on TT wasn't awful so there's that. Vivax: Was pretty under the radar, but he has a hipster read on fuba that sounds pretty solid. I had myself pointed out previously that fuba wasn't really playing the game as much as stopping by occasionally to write these weird summary posts, but I couldn't remember much scummy from them, not that I had actually read fuba's filter much. In general Vivax actually sounds excited about doing things today, and his primary scumtell is lack of activity/enthusiasm for doing things. less townie people/haven't paid enough attention to: fuba, I'm going to read his filter before tonight. My only observation on him is the one I made earlier and what vivax wrote shapelog, he's in my "ignore these people" category with slam and a few others. Someone else can figure out if he's town or mafia, not my problem. Grackaroni, only reason I think he may not be mafia is because of how directly he's talking to me. I don't think he'd have the balls to do it as scum. damdred, mafia people: Tumblewood, there is a weird inconsistency in him arguing that he's lazy and doesn't want to build cases when I demanded them in the thread, then he goes on to write them. There's also a weird inconsistency in how detailed his "random guy x is town" case was compared to all his cases attempted on scum, especially his HF case. Additionally there was no interest in piling on him last night, and despite hf and I pushing people on him today he never got above the two votes. This is of course terrible analysis but whatever. Damdred, I would probably be lynching damdred for his complete lack of trying and helping this game. He has a cocky attitude without the reads or activity or pushes to back it up. He's basically exclusively using the "I'm the greatest" attitude to defend himself, as opposed to pushing other reads. However he did sound slightly emotional when I was confronting him about shit logic so I'm meeehhhh. Objectively the best lynch is to kill him, because he sounds like mafia, but I like Damdred so I'm whatever right now. Skynx, mostly for calling me mafia. I don't really have many details on him, I just remember being annoyed with him and thinking that because he's annoying he's probably scum. Who knows. | ||
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On September 13 2016 20:33 Superbia wrote: And he's your main scum push? x; yes | ||
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On September 14 2016 00:42 Superbia wrote: Actually doesn't vivax just jump on 20 different people as town? If you want to use meta I think mine is the most accurate. Vivax shows enthusiasm for his lynches and the game in general when he's town. Not so much when mafia. | ||
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On September 14 2016 01:00 Damdred wrote: Still have one but expecting to get lynched and I'll shoot,between vivax, sky and tw yeah no, if you're town you're not shooting. | ||
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On September 14 2016 00:47 Damdred wrote: He's been pretty lackluster today and doesn't have his usual gung ho and seems to not care about pushing hi a scum read so far. also stones, glass houses etc do shit or die damdred. | ||
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On September 14 2016 01:24 Tumblewood wrote: well, now we have the tell for being a complete scrub. still too disappointed to drop the scumread though. and retroactively, I'd like to add a reason to palmar: his reasons are all bullshit. like if you had a random scumread generator that didn't require you to input the person's posts, that's how palmar feels. can't believe I forgot to put that in my list. do you know the difference between you and me? I sometimes catch scum. do you know why? Because my reasons are good. always. | ||
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On September 14 2016 01:33 Tumblewood wrote: examples I like how you take some tiny indicators (one of them even being a joke) and use it as an example. Did you lose your sense of humor or did you just roll mafia? | ||
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On September 14 2016 04:21 Holyflare wrote: I think Skynx is an excellent lynch because: A) he's extremely likely to be mafia B) we don't have to read his comments on every single post we've already read but 24 hours later Do you think damdred is town? | ||
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On September 14 2016 04:30 Grackaroni wrote: I say it's time to bring out the RNG. I'm all in on this idea | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:12 Superbia wrote: There's a distinct lack of Palmar atm. Reading along but I'm putting the kids to bed. I'll be at the computer before the deadline | ||
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I still think we should lynch Damdred. He is not a newbie, he KNOWS that the "don't give a shit" attitude can potentially get him off the hook. He also has, throughout the game, posted like he's the king of the world, while underdelivering reads and cases badly. Thus his fake confidence is fake. | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:32 Skynx wrote: Anyway i need a break. good time to take break, well planned. | ||
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lying about break noted. | ||
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I noticed you stopped doing this, but this is essentially the same as just PM-ing someone. This is against the spirit of the game. Don't do it again. | ||
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No regrets about your lynch atm. Make me at least question myself, or give me a reason to regret it if you're town, make me look bad. Unless of course you're doing the "I'm just not gonna give my team away" strategy, in which case you're doing ok. | ||
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Like I don't want to lose to that bullshit. I hate it. | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:54 Vivax wrote: Yea town Palmar never tries to please me. I don't see why you would stop thinking I'm retarded for no reason if not to try to pocket me. I literally called you retarded like 10 minutes ago. | ||
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On September 14 2016 05:58 Vivax wrote: After I pointed out the above. A strange coincidence before, are we living in the same universe? | ||
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Sorry if town Damdred, you need to actually put a tiny bit of effort into playing. You're not Palmar yet. | ||
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Don't know which yet fun times ahead. | ||
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On September 14 2016 08:41 NeverUnlucky wrote: I am voting Superbia tomorrow. His votes were bad, his whole WIFOM argument with Calix was scummy, and he hasn't said much despite his big filter. who knows maybe you'll be dead tomorrow? | ||
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thanks, I sometimes surprise even myself. | ||
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day 2 was scum vs scum wagons. | ||
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a) I don't really think he's mafia b) he's bad | ||
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Let's do it boys. | ||
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On September 15 2016 23:23 Tumblewood wrote: ok so you want to kill the scummiest player in thread and that doesn't involve getting good reads? and we weren't already killing the scummiest player in thread? this isn't overtly scum but either way it makes 0 sense You're dumb. | ||
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and just literally vote whoever is the most conservative with their vote. | ||
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On September 16 2016 08:06 Damdred wrote: Nope I want a super lynch today. Falling activity, really funky reasoning on tr shape when it looked like a chance I was the lynch set the manner down only to be thwarted in the last few seconds. Then immediately jumped on the it being a scum v scum without even trying to discern my alignment (when he was leaning town earlier in the day). The case on hf is interesting I give you that but I will not take part in that lynch_ (as I think he's still towny) and I don't think a lot of people will either. I say we just lynch you and if it fails we promise to lynch superbia. we'll definitely follow through on that promise, I would never break one. | ||
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On September 16 2016 06:45 Tumblewood wrote: there is one mafia between hf/damdred/vivax. I think it's between hf/damdred, 80%. probably another mafia outside that shitfest, between palmar/fuba/super, but I still don't want to lynch fuba despite objective badness. using my skills of addition I conclude that the likely scum pool is hf/damdred/palmar with super and vivax as plan b lynches it's damdred tw it's damdred. | ||
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On September 12 2016 00:11 Damdred wrote: I knew you would,come around slowly. To your vivax point, it's possible but I'd like to,give him at least to d3. D2 we already have a few decent candidates I think. (Sky should be discussed, tw is one of,the top candidates) Problem lies I have a lot of town reads and I get the feeling that one is wrong at least. Like I think shape is townish now, so it leaves me in a place where it could be vivax/tumble/sky but that team doesn't feel right to me. 2. On September 12 2016 23:42 Damdred wrote: On a serious note Skynx/Tumblewood/(Shapelog/Vivax) is what my scum team looks like currently 3. On September 14 2016 04:34 Damdred wrote: Rng landed on palmar switch. But shape is a mixed bag as well, some of his points feel ok but he sort of lacks the oomph he usually brings. But I felt really good about him when we were talking about sky it felt natural to an extent. 4. On September 14 2016 05:58 Damdred wrote: Fuck it I'll lynch shape Damdred had no interest in lynching shape at any point. He liked to keep him in that grey shit area where mafia likes to keep their buddies. Damdred is never town this game. If he is I'm terrible. I am 100% sure of this read, this is our lynch. | ||
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It's not associative at all, there is nothing inherent in the way these wagons formed that made it scum vs scum. It's scum vs scum because it is. | ||
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On September 16 2016 19:50 Superbia wrote: What do make of the fact that no veterans have been killed yet during the night? I try not to worry about it much. People have kept me alive before for a while (think PYP). It probably means whoever is mafia is either killing for wifom, or doesn't subscribe to the basic strategy I tend to advocate as mafia which is to kill town leaders and people who are right. Or, we're all hilariously wrong, or something. Honestly the speculation may be fund but I don't think it's very relevant information. you're one of three people today who haven't voted and I'm not sure where you're going to vote, which is unusual. What is your objective today? Do you have a preferred lynch? | ||
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On September 16 2016 20:16 Superbia wrote: I know this is approaching WIFOM territory. I would avoid ghost votes like the plague. | ||
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I'm just praying either me or him will be dead before lylo before I have to read his filter. | ||
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I started it but gave up because it was boring I had shit to do at work. | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:24 Holyflare wrote: Ghosts don't get more than one check. There's no new cop check ghosts. There's no new medic saves. Vivax didn't die despite making a case on mafia and being town read and there being no medic saves and mafia having 2 powers to negate medic saves. Please you're not this shit at logic. I forgot how the check rules work but mostly, well done taking a joke post seriously. | ||
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He calls him town, then randomly moves him back to null, and shows absolutely no interest in lynching him until right when he's about to be lynched. | ||
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HF might be, for his insistance that he is. But the 100% mafia is damdred. | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:46 Holyflare wrote: His train??? So why the fuck do i manipulate a vote on myself when I know half the thread wants to fucking lynch me? I don't care, I don't even know the vote is manipulated | ||
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we distancing now? | ||
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we desperate now? | ||
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On September 17 2016 05:56 Vivax wrote: This might be the first time we lynch a scumflare, it's the catch of a lifetime. Channel your balls of steel and do it. glorious day indeed. | ||
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100% team | ||
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@ghosts: Shoot the other one. | ||
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But it's about 100% more chance that the shitters who joined the wagon on HF are mafia than the guy driving it. Mafia don't like picking fights with people like hf. words of wisdom. | ||
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Like I want you to realize how INSANE the notion is that a TOWN HF loses a shitfight with MAFIA VIVAX. This does not happen, never. HF is not terrible enough at this game to let himself get lynched by mafia vivax. My world does not work like that. | ||
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On September 17 2016 07:29 fuba wrote: At the end it came down to either staying on HF or switching back to vivax. However, since the votes were relatively even, if I had switched to vivax it would have lynched damdred. Basically, while I was waffling about HF and vivax, I didn't want to lynch damdred. why not damdred? he's been an absolute shitter all game. | ||
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On September 17 2016 07:31 NeverUnlucky wrote: No, fuba is town. Find another target, Plamar. how about I don't listen to you? | ||
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Vivax is never mafia. NU is probably not mafia one of superbia/TW/grack/fuba is mafia Damdred is 100% mafia | ||
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I read it in a book | ||
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On September 18 2016 06:16 Superbia wrote: HF shot Palmar. or maybe he didn't or maybe I got saved | ||
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well fuck this hf would have shot vivax, every time. | ||
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But fuck it today, I'll figure out tomorrow. | ||
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a) VS didn't actually shoot and the message is manipulated b) I actually got protected by the BS I don't think there is any way around this. So to me it's simple: @VS: If you guys shot me, vote PALMAR tonight, else vote DAMDRED @BS: If you guys protected me, vote DAMDRED to night, else vote PALMAR | ||
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The BS is the important one, but the VS one can help as well (especially if hf's message was dicked around with). | ||
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On September 19 2016 22:33 Grackaroni wrote: The messages are already confirmed since Shapelog died. Ignore this spirit vote stuff it's all wifom. The only realistic chance of you not being mafia is if HF lied about shooting you. are you mafia? Why are you trying to shut down the votes before they come one. we KNOW one of the votes is 100% true. And either question helps my case. | ||
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On September 19 2016 23:45 Grackaroni wrote: Because you can easily switch one of the votes. 1) no I can't 2) even then, the other one will be true. | ||
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On September 20 2016 01:23 NeverUnlucky wrote: I mean, if Plamar was town, he would be pushing for someone else, right? Now he's just accepting his lynch which leads me to think he is scum. I cannot push for anyone else. TL players are stubborn in their badness | ||
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On September 20 2016 01:50 Vivax wrote: Just came back to austria after being on stinking trains the entire day. So I'll be quick. Quick recap of why we are lynching Palmar, for myself at least: - Didn't do shit besides giving me a good laugh during the HF lynch. Damdred 100 % mafia or something is also to be found at times, which doesn't make him appear as convinced as he pretends to be. - Didn't get killed by mafia or by HF or both. (if it's the work of good spirits, then good work, not). - Tried to suck up to me in some posts. Don't shenanny. I'm doing more scumhunting legwork tomorrow when I'm rested. Damdred is mafia. If he is not lynched in lylo (aka tonorrow) you're bad for all eternity I never sucked up to you. Your overinflated ego took me agreeing with you and townreadinf you as sucking up. Hint: I think you're town because I'm good. Not because I'm mafia/tmi | ||
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Hf shot me and the BS protected me | ||
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I'm 100% convinced that mafia shot me and town shot me and town protected me. Everyone loves to hate on poor old Pálmar. | ||
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Our strategy sorta went down the drain when shapelog couldn't show up and save himself, we were ready to lose a player on day 3, not day 2. The one thing I would criticize in the mechanics of the game is that allowing people to write wills AFTER they're dead is a bit brutal for mafia. I liked the new people btw, well played everyone. TW did an excellent job turning things around on him, Grack was on point most of the game, so was Skynx. HF had a rough start tunneling some townies, but turned it around and made a big play. I immediately figured there was a big chance of HF not shooting because he likes them big plays. Overall it was a solid town performance. | ||
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Deadline at 3am? We better get this sorted now cause fuck no I'm sleeping. | ||
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