EPTJust gonna point you to my post above for an explanation. You can check my filter to see the fact that I voted in this thread for him as well but because I have played a few games on SC2Mafia it slipped my mind that there was a voting thread.
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Jealous
10365 Posts
Just gonna point you to my post above for an explanation. You can check my filter to see the fact that I voted in this thread for him as well but because I have played a few games on SC2Mafia it slipped my mind that there was a voting thread. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
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Superbia
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ptmc
Finland306 Posts
Bit worried that the Luna-Lynch runs so smoothly, but i guess the train would be too strong to defend anyhow. Will go through the thread more in detail tomorrow. | ||
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ptmc
Finland306 Posts
On September 26 2016 06:18 Jealous wrote: I've posted what I deem a sufficient amount about Lunaticman prior to the vote; I actually voted for him in this thread much earlier than most of you, from what I can tell, but I forgot that I have to vote in the other thread. As far as my thoughts as I'm catching up, here's what I have (pretty loose, not on a PC until tomorrow and working until then): Scott - In my experience Scott is always a man of few words so I don't feel his brevity is AI. Superbia - welcome back, his type of spam might be what this game needed to be revitalized. I would like to see him speaking more specifically and referencing posts more clearly beyond just saying "I read his filter and I feel x." He also has the convenience of arriving into the thread when everything is more or less set in stone. But, because I myself am busy, I can relate. Calix - am slightly surprised by her willingness to judge me for not being very confident or conclusive on people in D1 as I feel she knows me well enough to know that this isn't out of the norm. D2 is when I always do a lot of work, so I don't mind that you guys (particularly Rels) are giving me some crap over being soft-spoken because that will all change when I have concrete things to work off of and tie to posts. Daneler - might be riding on the good feels he got from my posts before I became inactive, but he should have picked up on the general turn of town's opinion on me and the fact that it is reasonable I'm a vacuum. I agree with Rels that I wasn't a big fan of his list post. Rels - staying on the ball and being assertive with his position, which I like. His going after me is forgivable because as I said it is justifiable and will not be the case come D2. Xan - it's awkward for me to look back on my phone to make sure that it was him trying to create a second train, but if it was indeed him I'd have to say it seems like a stupid thing to attempt so openly and at this juncture. Stupidity isn't necessarily AI but in theory, taking votes off Lunaticman and creating the potential for shennanies (which are popular on TL and thus unfortunately not always AI)... Could be a dumb scum move. If it was not Xan who did this, attribute the same reasoning to whoever else it was that initiated this thought, and apologies to Xan. Stutter - still haven't seen anything from him that would make me change my mind about him being my #2 lynch pick. Nothing that I recall off the top of my head sticks out, but I'm not fully caught up so maybe I'll add some more as I walk to the store before EoD. What do you think about DYH? | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On September 26 2016 06:18 Jealous wrote: I've posted what I deem a sufficient amount about Lunaticman prior to the vote; I actually voted for him in this thread much earlier than most of you, from what I can tell, but I forgot that I have to vote in the other thread. As far as my thoughts as I'm catching up, here's what I have (pretty loose, not on a PC until tomorrow and working until then): Scott - In my experience Scott is always a man of few words so I don't feel his brevity is AI. Superbia - welcome back, his type of spam might be what this game needed to be revitalized. I would like to see him speaking more specifically and referencing posts more clearly beyond just saying "I read his filter and I feel x." He also has the convenience of arriving into the thread when everything is more or less set in stone. But, because I myself am busy, I can relate. Calix - am slightly surprised by her willingness to judge me for not being very confident or conclusive on people in D1 as I feel she knows me well enough to know that this isn't out of the norm. D2 is when I always do a lot of work, so I don't mind that you guys (particularly Rels) are giving me some crap over being soft-spoken because that will all change when I have concrete things to work off of and tie to posts. Daneler - might be riding on the good feels he got from my posts before I became inactive, but he should have picked up on the general turn of town's opinion on me and the fact that it is reasonable I'm a vacuum. I agree with Rels that I wasn't a big fan of his list post. Rels - staying on the ball and being assertive with his position, which I like. His going after me is forgivable because as I said it is justifiable and will not be the case come D2. Xan - it's awkward for me to look back on my phone to make sure that it was him trying to create a second train, but if it was indeed him I'd have to say it seems like a stupid thing to attempt so openly and at this juncture. Stupidity isn't necessarily AI but in theory, taking votes off Lunaticman and creating the potential for shennanies (which are popular on TL and thus unfortunately not always AI)... Could be a dumb scum move. If it was not Xan who did this, attribute the same reasoning to whoever else it was that initiated this thought, and apologies to Xan. Stutter - still haven't seen anything from him that would make me change my mind about him being my #2 lynch pick. Nothing that I recall off the top of my head sticks out, but I'm not fully caught up so maybe I'll add some more as I walk to the store before EoD. Don't think reading into Superbia's timing is going to get anyone anywhere. Details that could be explained very easily by RL are not something that should be considered imo. Yeah, I am aware of your last game. Somehow you have become even worse since then and that's saying something considering that catch-up post you made last round. Your promise of getting less-shitty has been noted though. Noticing that a lot of your reads so far are focused on yourself. I don't think you've been the centre of discussion so this strikes me as oddly self-centred. Not sure who you're referring to with a 'second train' thing. Xatalos said "oh I can get behind a second train but I'm sticking with Lunatic" iirc before dropping it and Superbia was more open about a Scott train and has recently voted I think? Otherwise I don't follow. Your Stutters read is something I agree on. | ||
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Jealous
10365 Posts
I liked the questions he posited to me, dislike the fact that he hasn't done much of anything else. The questions he asked would be easy for scum to post for the express purpose of creating the illusion of town - interest and pressure. Needless to say I can understand where he was coming from about my slow response but I think I put the theory that it was anything AI to rest by looking like a demented tourist for taking a photo of the back of a train pass at the metro lol. The longer DYH isn't here and isn't doing anything is gradually pushing me to scum lean . | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
Day 1 Vote Count Lunaticman (10): SoulEaterQUEEN, Calix, Xatalos, Rels, scott31337, DoYouHas, DanelerH, ptmc, Jealous, Stutters695 DanelerH (1): DoYouHas (1): Skynx scott31337 (1): Superbia, Stutters695 (0): At the current vote count, Lunaticman is slated to be lynched. You have to vote here. Voting is mandatory! | ||
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Jealous
10365 Posts
On September 26 2016 06:29 Calix wrote: Don't think reading into Superbia's timing is going to get anyone anywhere. Details that could be explained very easily by RL are not something that should be considered imo. Yeah, I am aware of your last game. Somehow you have become even worse since then and that's saying something considering that catch-up post you made last round. Your promise of getting less-shitty has been noted though. Noticing that a lot of your reads so far are focused on yourself. I don't think you've been the centre of discussion so this strikes me as oddly self-centred. Not sure who you're referring to with a 'second train' thing. Xatalos said "oh I can get behind a second train but I'm sticking with Lunatic" iirc before dropping it and Superbia was more open about a Scott train and has recently voted I think? Otherwise I don't follow. Your Stutters read is something I agree on. As I said, I'm not taking Superbia's timing into account because we are both in the same boat in that regard. I really didn't notice too much going on as I skimmed besides what I had already mentioned and covered so ad my name was mentioned quite often I felt it appropriate to address that, because if I don't, who will? Only person who seems to still have a favorable opinion of me is Daneler and even I don't agree with him lol. I guess I could have brought the list up in another window on my phone and flip back and forth in order to give more reasons but I was moving fast in the interest of EoD time and because I feel that the differences between what I have said and he has said would at least cover some of that. Yes, that is what I was referring to. I'm not sure I like such a blatantly artificial plan. Seems like it'd plant more seeds of confusion than any valuable information, especially since it was done so openly. | ||
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Jealous
10365 Posts
On September 26 2016 06:32 Xatalos wrote: Jealous: can't really follow your "second wagon" thingy... I think it's theoretically always better to have about two wagons and the situation being town vs scum if possible for maximum benefits. This time it's not really feasible, but in general. You might be right in theory but I feel the way you went about it was off and as you just acknowledged, not feasible. I'm curious because if you know it wasn't possible, why propose it? I don't think even newbie scum would fall such an obvious trap, if that's what it was. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On September 26 2016 06:43 Jealous wrote: As I said, I'm not taking Superbia's timing into account because we are both in the same boat in that regard. I really didn't notice too much going on as I skimmed besides what I had already mentioned and covered so ad my name was mentioned quite often I felt it appropriate to address that, because if I don't, who will? Only person who seems to still have a favorable opinion of me is Daneler and even I don't agree with him lol. I guess I could have brought the list up in another window on my phone and flip back and forth in order to give more reasons but I was moving fast in the interest of EoD time and because I feel that the differences between what I have said and he has said would at least cover some of that. Yes, that is what I was referring to. I'm not sure I like such a blatantly artificial plan. Seems like it'd plant more seeds of confusion than any valuable information, especially since it was done so openly. I still think my self-centred point stands as your answer only confirmed what I was saying. What do you mean exactly with your last line of the 2nd paragraph? What's artificial about considering other lynch options? I didn't notice anything unusual with that. (it makes for better VCA after all) | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On September 26 2016 06:45 Jealous wrote: You might be right in theory but I feel the way you went about it was off and as you just acknowledged, not feasible. I'm curious because if you know it wasn't possible, why propose it? I don't think even newbie scum would fall such an obvious trap, if that's what it was. Dunno. Didn't really have much else to talk about. I didn't even mean it as a trap, simply to possibly force scum mistakes by making the situation more hectic and unpredictable... But yeah, it was pretty much set in stone at that point anyway. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
Day 1 Vote Count Lunaticman (10): SoulEaterQUEEN, Calix, Xatalos, Rels, scott31337, DoYouHas, DanelerH, ptmc, Jealous, Stutters695 DanelerH (1): DoYouHas (1): Skynx scott31337 (1): Superbia, Stutters695 (0): At the current vote count, Lunaticman is slated to be lynched. You have to vote here. Voting is mandatory! | ||
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Jealous
10365 Posts
On September 26 2016 06:48 Calix wrote: I still think my self-centred point stands as your answer only confirmed what I was saying. What do you mean exactly with your last line of the 2nd paragraph? What's artificial about considering other lynch options? I didn't notice anything unusual with that. (it makes for better VCA after all) I feel like you might be tunneled on this self-centered sticking point but I don't feel it's quite fair. I might be digging myself an even deeper hole by pursuing this line of discussion but I think it must be addressed. I come back from a long period of inactivity to find that nearly every poster is saying that they are liking me less/scum leaning me. I get asked for my thoughts on the thread by Scott so I address all the points I found pertinent, which obviously included me since nearly everyone has mentioned my name in my absence. So, in order to respond to the people whose mentioning of me stuck out, I am forced to talk about myself and come to my own defense multiple times. It's simply logical, in my opinion. I feel like you only looked at the surface (amount of times I refer to myself) and not the underlying reasons. I'd rather not have something else added to the list of things people are scum leaning me for. Anyway, I think that about covers that issue. Last line of the second paragraph, I'll rephrase. If I had more time and it wasn't such a pain, I would have brought up the list in a quote or in another page on my phone browser, and addressed the reasons why I didn't like his list more directly. However, because time was short, I didn't. Running out of time now, third point will have to wait. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12973 Posts
Night 1 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/5Ur9NiJ.jpg) Lunaticman the Mafia Roleblocker has been lynched! It is now Night 1. You have to send in your night actions. | ||
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scott31337
United States2979 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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