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On September 26 2016 04:51 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 04:45 DanelerH wrote:On September 26 2016 04:32 Rels wrote:On September 26 2016 04:23 DanelerH wrote:
I've managed to catch up on the game and I've gone through everyone's filters. These are the reads I've gotten:
Town
Calix, Jealous, Rels, Xalatos - They all seem to be actively hunting for Mafia. In addition, Calix and Rels are looking for clarification on various points to assist in this.
Leaning Town
Scott - Same reason as for the above four, but there isn't as much in xyr filter to go off of.
Null
Ptmc, SoulEaterQUEEN, Skynx, DoYouHas, Superbia - I can get a good read on any of them. There doesn't seem to be much indicative of them being either Town or Mafia.
Leaning Mafia
Stutters - I don't like the reaction-testing xe was doing. Xe revealed it extremely quickly afterward (possibly as an attempt to cover up the original suggestion, though that might be stretching it a bit). Xe said the results of the reactions xe got were to-be-determined, but hasn't said anything about them since.
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##Vote Lunaticman Did you read the whole thread ? There is nothing here. Why are you voting for Lunatic ? Why isn't there any basis for your reads apart from: - a generic one (they appear to be scumhunting, which TBH seems more like "they posted a lot" since Jealous is in this list) - an event that happened like 40 hours ago (the stutters reaction test) In order: Yes, I read the thread. We've already discussed the reasons to vote for Lunatic. I didn't feel it was necessary to repeat them. Because those are the most indicative to me. Unfortunately, I don't know other things to look for. As for the reaction-test, I felt this one was important. Stutters claimed xe said something controversial to get reactions. This went nowhere, was cut off extremely quickly, and, despite having said that the reactions were going to be found later, xe hasn't said anything about the results of it. There were plenty to discuss in all those pages though. The most recent thing for example was Calix' case on DYH ? What's your opinion on it ?
It makes sense, so I decided to look over DYH again, while keeping this case in mind. When doing so, I found a post that I want to pair with it:
On September 26 2016 04:24 DoYouHas wrote:
@Calix - My read on SEQ in the post you looked at is in no way null. I described him as jumping in with both feet and actively scumhunting. Those are town attributes.
This was in response to the following portion of Calix's case: + Show Spoiler +
349 is where his SEQ read is and he's saying 'he doesn't bother me at all' but i don't know wherever that's a town or scum read (this is a theme) and this is the most wordy post he's made the entire game and that's his bigger contribution that he bargained for and its not even that good. If it's a null read then why waste time when you could talk about scum-reads (which he has not done at all lol) and if it's a town read then it's not clear at all. His priorities don't make any sense is what I am saying here.
The strange thing about this is when looking at it along with the first part of Calix's case: + Show Spoiler +
What makes me suspicious is 342 because he was like "hai Sutters I'll talk about your scum-read SEQ if you talk about ptmc" and that's weird because he isn't scum-reading ptmc (so not sure why he asked) and he's not reallg using his initiative - if you have thoughts then why not just post them instead of doing some weird 1-1 trade thing? Ithink this shows some lacking of initiative here.
This is what I was getting onto Lunatic about earlier. If you have a Town-read on someone, why not just say it and the reasons for it? Getting back to Calix's case, why offer the read in a trade? It's completely pointless.
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So i take it lunatic did not provide any reasonable explanations?
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On September 26 2016 05:19 DanelerH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 04:51 Rels wrote:On September 26 2016 04:45 DanelerH wrote:On September 26 2016 04:32 Rels wrote:On September 26 2016 04:23 DanelerH wrote:
I've managed to catch up on the game and I've gone through everyone's filters. These are the reads I've gotten:
Town
Calix, Jealous, Rels, Xalatos - They all seem to be actively hunting for Mafia. In addition, Calix and Rels are looking for clarification on various points to assist in this.
Leaning Town
Scott - Same reason as for the above four, but there isn't as much in xyr filter to go off of.
Null
Ptmc, SoulEaterQUEEN, Skynx, DoYouHas, Superbia - I can get a good read on any of them. There doesn't seem to be much indicative of them being either Town or Mafia.
Leaning Mafia
Stutters - I don't like the reaction-testing xe was doing. Xe revealed it extremely quickly afterward (possibly as an attempt to cover up the original suggestion, though that might be stretching it a bit). Xe said the results of the reactions xe got were to-be-determined, but hasn't said anything about them since.
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##Vote Lunaticman Did you read the whole thread ? There is nothing here. Why are you voting for Lunatic ? Why isn't there any basis for your reads apart from: - a generic one (they appear to be scumhunting, which TBH seems more like "they posted a lot" since Jealous is in this list) - an event that happened like 40 hours ago (the stutters reaction test) In order: Yes, I read the thread. We've already discussed the reasons to vote for Lunatic. I didn't feel it was necessary to repeat them. Because those are the most indicative to me. Unfortunately, I don't know other things to look for. As for the reaction-test, I felt this one was important. Stutters claimed xe said something controversial to get reactions. This went nowhere, was cut off extremely quickly, and, despite having said that the reactions were going to be found later, xe hasn't said anything about the results of it. There were plenty to discuss in all those pages though. The most recent thing for example was Calix' case on DYH ? What's your opinion on it ? It makes sense, so I decided to look over DYH again, while keeping this case in mind. When doing so, I found a post that I want to pair with it: Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 04:24 DoYouHas wrote:
@Calix - My read on SEQ in the post you looked at is in no way null. I described him as jumping in with both feet and actively scumhunting. Those are town attributes. This was in response to the following portion of Calix's case: + Show Spoiler +
349 is where his SEQ read is and he's saying 'he doesn't bother me at all' but i don't know wherever that's a town or scum read (this is a theme) and this is the most wordy post he's made the entire game and that's his bigger contribution that he bargained for and its not even that good. If it's a null read then why waste time when you could talk about scum-reads (which he has not done at all lol) and if it's a town read then it's not clear at all. His priorities don't make any sense is what I am saying here.
The strange thing about this is when looking at it along with the first part of Calix's case: + Show Spoiler +
What makes me suspicious is 342 because he was like "hai Sutters I'll talk about your scum-read SEQ if you talk about ptmc" and that's weird because he isn't scum-reading ptmc (so not sure why he asked) and he's not reallg using his initiative - if you have thoughts then why not just post them instead of doing some weird 1-1 trade thing? Ithink this shows some lacking of initiative here.
This is what I was getting onto Lunatic about earlier. If you have a Town-read on someone, why not just say it and the reasons for it? Getting back to Calix's case, why offer the read in a trade? It's completely pointless.
Hm. Pointless = scummy?
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On September 26 2016 05:12 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 05:06 Xatalos wrote:
Meh, the vote distribution is a bit questionable, but it could just be that the scumteam is too toothless. It would kind of be preferable to have a close race, though, for future vote analysis... But I'm not really confident with scott as the second target... Well, if enough people are, that would be good enough. I thought this a bit last night - But Skynx wants to like DYH instead - Superbia wants to lynch me instead - Ptmc has his vote on another wagon - etc.There's only three scum. We still have three people who haven't voted. They really can't defend him hard without looking really bad if he flips scum.
What are you saying here?
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On September 26 2016 05:20 ptmc wrote:
So i take it lunatic did not provide any reasonable explanations?
Pretty much raged about being questioned and went offline.
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I would like to note that my vote on Stutters was more to force Lunatic to reveal more on his read than it was because I really think Stutters is scum. This is all before i have actually caught up with the thread, btw.
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guys we should basically asusm he's not coming because otherwise we just sit on our hands and wiat for stuff to happen that might not happen?
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On September 26 2016 05:21 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 05:20 ptmc wrote:
So i take it lunatic did not provide any reasonable explanations? Pretty much raged about being questioned and went offline.
Ok, I'm fine with the lynch on him then. I'll move my vote to him then, although it is highly unlikely that anyone else will be lynched anyway. Gonna read a bit afterwards.
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On September 26 2016 05:21 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 05:12 scott31337 wrote:On September 26 2016 05:06 Xatalos wrote:
Meh, the vote distribution is a bit questionable, but it could just be that the scumteam is too toothless. It would kind of be preferable to have a close race, though, for future vote analysis... But I'm not really confident with scott as the second target... Well, if enough people are, that would be good enough. I thought this a bit last night - But Skynx wants to like DYH instead - Superbia wants to lynch me instead - Ptmc has his vote on another wagon - etc.There's only three scum. We still have three people who haven't voted. They really can't defend him hard without looking really bad if he flips scum. What are you saying here?
Pls respond
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On September 26 2016 05:26 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 05:21 Superbia wrote:On September 26 2016 05:12 scott31337 wrote:On September 26 2016 05:06 Xatalos wrote:
Meh, the vote distribution is a bit questionable, but it could just be that the scumteam is too toothless. It would kind of be preferable to have a close race, though, for future vote analysis... But I'm not really confident with scott as the second target... Well, if enough people are, that would be good enough. I thought this a bit last night - But Skynx wants to like DYH instead - Superbia wants to lynch me instead - Ptmc has his vote on another wagon - etc.There's only three scum. We still have three people who haven't voted. They really can't defend him hard without looking really bad if he flips scum. What are you saying here? Pls respond
I think he just meant that the wagon is too strong to be overturned by potential scummates?
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On September 26 2016 05:32 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 05:26 Superbia wrote:On September 26 2016 05:21 Superbia wrote:On September 26 2016 05:12 scott31337 wrote:On September 26 2016 05:06 Xatalos wrote:
Meh, the vote distribution is a bit questionable, but it could just be that the scumteam is too toothless. It would kind of be preferable to have a close race, though, for future vote analysis... But I'm not really confident with scott as the second target... Well, if enough people are, that would be good enough. I thought this a bit last night - But Skynx wants to like DYH instead - Superbia wants to lynch me instead - Ptmc has his vote on another wagon - etc.There's only three scum. We still have three people who haven't voted. They really can't defend him hard without looking really bad if he flips scum. What are you saying here? Pls respond I think he just meant that the wagon is too strong to be overturned by potential scummates?
Which ones exactly? Also why you answering
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Day 1 Vote Count
Lunaticman (8): SoulEaterQUEEN, Calix, Xatalos, Rels, scott31337, DoYouHas, DanelerH, ptmc
DanelerH (1): Xatalos, Lunaticman
DoYouHas (1): Skynx
Stutters695 (0): SoulEaterQUEEN, ptmc
Not voting (3): Jealous, Stutters695, Superbia,
At the current vote count, Lunaticman is slated to be lynched.
You have to vote here. Voting is mandatory!
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On September 26 2016 05:21 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 05:12 scott31337 wrote:On September 26 2016 05:06 Xatalos wrote:
Meh, the vote distribution is a bit questionable, but it could just be that the scumteam is too toothless. It would kind of be preferable to have a close race, though, for future vote analysis... But I'm not really confident with scott as the second target... Well, if enough people are, that would be good enough. I thought this a bit last night - But Skynx wants to like DYH instead - Superbia wants to lynch me instead - Ptmc has his vote on another wagon - etc.There's only three scum. We still have three people who haven't voted. They really can't defend him hard without looking really bad if he flips scum. What are you saying here?
What part do you not get? I was saying that isn't a "slam dunk" basically. We have more than three people that have other preferred lynches than Luna. (like was supposed to be lynch)
I had to go eat, I haven't had anything all day.
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On September 26 2016 05:48 Jealous wrote:
## Vote Lunaticman
Want to post any other thoughts on the game Jealous?
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Voting so I don't forget while I'm at work.
Vote: Luna
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Day 1 Vote Count
Lunaticman (9): SoulEaterQUEEN, Calix, Xatalos, Rels, scott31337, DoYouHas, DanelerH, ptmc, Jealous
DanelerH (1): Xatalos, Lunaticman
DoYouHas (1): Skynx
Stutters695 (0): SoulEaterQUEEN, ptmc
Not voting (2): Stutters695, Superbia,
At the current vote count, Lunaticman is slated to be lynched.
You have to vote here. Voting is mandatory!
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Well, looks like it's quite decisive now. Let's hope the odds are in our favor. Gonna be AFK for a bit, but back before deadline.
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On September 26 2016 05:53 scott31337 wrote:Want to post any other thoughts on the game Jealous?
dat sneaky vote
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On September 26 2016 05:53 scott31337 wrote:Want to post any other thoughts on the game Jealous?
I've posted what I deem a sufficient amount about Lunaticman prior to the vote; I actually voted for him in this thread much earlier than most of you, from what I can tell, but I forgot that I have to vote in the other thread. As far as my thoughts as I'm catching up, here's what I have (pretty loose, not on a PC until tomorrow and working until then):
Scott - In my experience Scott is always a man of few words so I don't feel his brevity is AI.
Superbia - welcome back, his type of spam might be what this game needed to be revitalized. I would like to see him speaking more specifically and referencing posts more clearly beyond just saying "I read his filter and I feel x." He also has the convenience of arriving into the thread when everything is more or less set in stone. But, because I myself am busy, I can relate.
Calix - am slightly surprised by her willingness to judge me for not being very confident or conclusive on people in D1 as I feel she knows me well enough to know that this isn't out of the norm. D2 is when I always do a lot of work, so I don't mind that you guys (particularly Rels) are giving me some crap over being soft-spoken because that will all change when I have concrete things to work off of and tie to posts.
Daneler - might be riding on the good feels he got from my posts before I became inactive, but he should have picked up on the general turn of town's opinion on me and the fact that it is reasonable I'm a vacuum. I agree with Rels that I wasn't a big fan of his list post.
Rels - staying on the ball and being assertive with his position, which I like. His going after me is forgivable because as I said it is justifiable and will not be the case come D2.
Xan - it's awkward for me to look back on my phone to make sure that it was him trying to create a second train, but if it was indeed him I'd have to say it seems like a stupid thing to attempt so openly and at this juncture. Stupidity isn't necessarily AI but in theory, taking votes off Lunaticman and creating the potential for shennanies (which are popular on TL and thus unfortunately not always AI)... Could be a dumb scum move. If it was not Xan who did this, attribute the same reasoning to whoever else it was that initiated this thought, and apologies to Xan.
Stutter - still haven't seen anything from him that would make me change my mind about him being my #2 lynch pick.
Nothing that I recall off the top of my head sticks out, but I'm not fully caught up so maybe I'll add some more as I walk to the store before EoD.
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