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Okay, so let me try to explain why I got THIS mad.
First:
I played two very tryhard games before this one and was kinda exhausted from that. I was hoping this game would be a bit more chill, but then I rolled cop. Not wanting to get bluesniped for sandbagging, I kept up my tryhardiness.
Second:
After Rels flipped D1, I kinda felt the weight of the whole game on my shoulders as I felt my checks would be critical to save town. Especially since the reads where all over the place and I felt like I had no idea what was going on. So I was agonizing over who to check all day.
Third:
I get into an argument with Vivi, which is kinda annoying at the start cause cause he is either a blockhead, or doesn't get my point, or is scum or a combination of those things. Which is okay. Then he posts this:
On September 01 2016 00:53 Vivax wrote:
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What are you doing disfo?
And to me that felt like a really bad insult at that time. Like nearly everything else would have not gotten me so mad.
"Your reads are horseshit go away" - Fine he is right, my D1 reads are horseshit most of the time. That is why I sheep D1. 
"<insert mom joke here>" - <insert mom joke here>
"<insert insult that is not enough to get him modkilled>" - would have probably been able to walk away from that
"<insert insult that is enough to get him modkilled>" - k, cu
Again what I am trying say here is that I would have been okay with a multitude of different wordings of that.
But I took What are you doing disfo? as a really underhanded and thinly veiled way of saying that I didn't do jack this game.
Which got me incredibly fucking mad, I would have understood a criticism to the quality of my posts, but not this underhanded way of accusing me of doing jack all when I am clearly busting my ass to try and save this game to an extend where it negatively effects my productivity at work and my sleep.
And at that point I was already on full tilt and not thinking. I think I tried to step back once or twice, but I was so damn angry I just kept on coming right back. So when he also kept on going I just reached the point where I was like "fuck it, solve the game yourself"
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I deserve it for not sticking with night kill analysis 
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On September 06 2016 06:09 Vivax wrote:
No way I could have brought up that much tinfoil
Eh you were obv town D1.
Too bad more town weren't.
Palmar and Koshi got to basically play sleeper mafia with HF just shitting up the thread.
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Thanks for playing everyone!
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Disfo bud don't let it get to you we all have been there tbh, as much as I love vivax (which I do) sometimes he is a hard pill to swallow.
Take you a short break and then come play some fun games XD
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On September 06 2016 06:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
Player Signups
Problem: Accepting Race Bannon included a risk of having to modkill him for several reasons. I should not have taken that risk.
Solution: Do not allow signups from players that have a risk of damaging the game.
I don't think this is a good idea. Players that fucked up should have a chance at redemption.
+ Show Spoiler +That said, he's gotten a few chances already..
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Best of Holyflare feat. Koshi
On September 02 2016 03:34 Holyflare wrote:
This game became officially boring.
After shooting the guy with the highest activity and postcount. Well played.
On September 02 2016 03:43 Holyflare wrote:I'm so bored in fact that I'm reading my old filters. I'm really good at this game. Show nested quote +On July 23 2015 08:30 Holyflare wrote:Also, there was an incredible problem that I pointed out in the obs qt and why you people think spam is so detrimental to the game. You people simply do not play with that style properly at all: HolyflarePerson was signed in when posted
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like seriously nobody even reads games anymore or looks at post in the context of the thread, that's why they all play like shit and think things look good when they read filters
there have been 0 cases from townies on anyone in this entire game since vivax and myself died
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you know how fucking stupid that is? they tried to lynch va yesterday for no reason, they are lynching clarity today for no reason that anyone has explained, nobody is playing mafia they are just saying other people are mafia I'm actually surprised this game had more cases in but people still kind of play the same way and it's still me and vivax :D
Complaining about there being no cases, while voting Palmar together with 3 other ppl for no apparent reason. Well played.
Also: shoutout to town doing jack. Well played.
Also apparently that was a bus. Well played.
On September 01 2016 09:06 Holyflare wrote:
Also super wifom but I don't think the mafia team may be comprised of very good/active people because that disfo cop claim looked really fake to me and I'm not dead (but surprise surprise palmar is pushing me)
Also super wifom, but scum is so active that town has 0 thread presence with disfo gone. Well played.
On September 01 2016 18:45 Holyflare wrote:
Why hasn't scott posted his spreadsheets then?
It's not me bringing this information up because everybody is saying it. I haven't seen a spreadsheet. Have you seen a spreadsheet?
Why doesn't he show his spreadsheet? And you know what? I wish he would. Because I think it's a terrible pal that's hanging over him. He should show his spreadsheet.
It’s hard to believe he doesn’t produce his spreadsheet if he has one; it would be so easy to do.
I've been told that it's not there or it doesn't exist. And if that's the case it's a big problem.
There's no spreadsheet!
On August 30 2016 05:47 Koshi wrote:
When I said you were the best mafia player I also meant were the best mafia player.
Proof: My last mafia game.
On August 30 2016 05:49 Holyflare wrote:
Come back to me when you win a game with a red check on you when the cop flipped three cycles ago koshi.
well played.
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On September 06 2016 06:13 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 06:09 Vivax wrote:
No way I could have brought up that much tinfoil Eh you were obv town D1. Too bad more town weren't. Palmar and Koshi got to basically play sleeper mafia with HF just shitting up the thread.
That's not alignment indicative
Also ty for hosting you did good.
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On September 06 2016 06:12 beentheredonethat wrote:+ Show Spoiler +So here's some stuff I learned from this game:
Role PMs
Problem: The VT role PM contained fluff that was different to the in-thread role fluff.
Solution: Send fluff in role PMs that is in the OP.
OP Organization
Problem: The OP contained of multiple posts that required a lot of scrolling to read.
Solution: Most important stuff was located at the bottom. Use spoiler tags to hide "common" rules. Put the most important stuff in a post at the very top of the OP.
Player Signups
Problem: Accepting Race Bannon included a risk of having to modkill him for several reasons. I should not have taken that risk.
Solution: Do not allow signups from players that have a risk of damaging the game.
Activity
Problem: I did not put in an activity requirement as I did not want to wield the ban hammer as a first-time host. The game slowed down rather fast D2 and it was, ironically enough, mainly scum that kept it alive.
Solution: Have a harsh activity requirement in future games. Ensure players can and will be active by reviewing
/ins more detailed pregame.
Really solid hosting. Good job!!!
Loved the flavor. Especially the Rels flavor. And all the themed vote count thingies. Or the gif with Vader dancing when we lynched TW. Good stuff.
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On September 06 2016 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 06:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
Player Signups
Problem: Accepting Race Bannon included a risk of having to modkill him for several reasons. I should not have taken that risk.
Solution: Do not allow signups from players that have a risk of damaging the game. I don't think this is a good idea. Players that fucked up should have a chance at redemption. + Show Spoiler +That said, he's gotten a few chances already..
He posted screenshots of his inbox and sent the link to the observer QT to a player. And this is only the stuff I can prove. I am honestly pissed and will request quite the punishment.
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Honestly beentheredonethat you hosted well and the race thing was not your fault
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And well it isn't the most unheard of thing of blackballing a player as long as your game player list agrees to it
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I might have overreacted to some stuff that was going on but I had great help in my co-hosts, Blazinghand, and Half the Sky. Really, I cannot thank all of them enough for the ongoing support.
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I'm never trusting my reads on any of those 3 again. I'm just going to tunnel the hell out of them so that they can hate the game as much as I hated this one.
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yeah solid hosting dude, no complaints.
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Really though, game was totally unbalanced. That scum team was ridic. If the cop weren't an idiot, then we get a freebie red check in the least. But eh. That sucked.
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On September 06 2016 06:14 Damdred wrote:
Disfo bud don't let it get to you we all have been there tbh, as much as I love vivax (which I do) sometimes he is a hard pill to swallow.
Take you a short break and then come play some fun games XD
aw <3
yeah don't worry. I am probably fine if I dont all out tryhard like three games back to back. and learn to chill a bit, esp. when I get blue. Some deadlines might be a tad late for me though, so need to be a bit careful there.
Maybe I ll get into a rhythm of obsing/co-hosting one, playing one, repeat.
And yes the hosting was great. You could have bossed luna/oneg into doing a few more vote counts during the day maybe.
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On September 06 2016 06:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
So here's some stuff I learned from this game:
Role PMs
Problem: The VT role PM contained fluff that was different to the in-thread role fluff.
Solution: Send fluff in role PMs that is in the OP.
OP Organization
Problem: The OP contained of multiple posts that required a lot of scrolling to read.
Solution: Most important stuff was located at the bottom. Use spoiler tags to hide "common" rules. Put the most important stuff in a post at the very top of the OP.
Player Signups
Problem: Accepting Race Bannon included a risk of having to modkill him for several reasons. I should not have taken that risk.
Solution: Do not allow signups from players that have a risk of damaging the game.
Activity
Problem: I did not put in an activity requirement as I did not want to wield the ban hammer as a first-time host. The game slowed down rather fast D2 and it was, ironically enough, mainly scum that kept it alive.
Solution: Have a harsh activity requirement in future games. Ensure players can and will be active by reviewing
/ins more detailed pregame.
Eh activity wasn't THAT bad imo, seems like there was multiple factors that made a lot of town stop playing as much D2 and you really can't create rules to keep life from getting in the way. Besides it's kinda town's role in the game to stay active or risk failing their team, not the Host's.
The rest of these are good lessons to have learned, especially the role PM stuff. Though imo it's kinda bad form for players to try and break a game with shit like that.
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On September 06 2016 06:19 geript wrote:
Really though, game was totally unbalanced. That scum team was ridic. If the cop weren't an idiot, then we get a freebie red check in the least. But eh. That sucked.
my n1 check would have been Dane. So thats a green.
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IMO, my only complaint w/ hosting is that once Race commented on it he should've been modkilled.
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